[END] Avant-Garde Mafia 2

#1001

triceratopzeuhl wrote: Except that it sounds like an entire baddie team has potential for an NK protect

That's why I thought you meant whole team. May bad, not trying to put words in your mouth.

#1002

Yeah I was probably unclear.

I meant entire team has potential as in every member on the team could, in an attempt at their life, probably be protected. I think I also went over this already

#1003

Mr. Droopy Cash wrote:
LittleTiger wrote:Welcome back Mr. Droppy Cash!

So, no death. Not sure what to think about that at the moment. Great post again, Alex!

As for this new challenge, I simply don't have the time... but I would have won

Vompatti is really making my nose twitch, I have to say.
You just earned an It's Mr. DrOOpy Cash, not DroPPy Cash!

Geez!

OMG! I just spurted coffee laughing at this....

Sorry about that Mr. Droopy Cash

#1004

#1005

reywaS wrote:Perhaps INH KNOWS that there is such a role.

Or maybe INH is THEORIZING!

#1006

BoatsBoatsBoats wrote:While Vomps is most likely a baddie, it's really a given at this point. What I'm having trouble with is the next step; finding out who is bad after Vomps is out of the picture. There are some who I am suspicious of, but they could just as easily be civs.

And who might this mysterious person be?

#1007

Welcome back Droopy, you still have an

from me.

#1008

#1009

rabbit8 wrote:At Teaxns/Pats game, will be back after the weekends.

Go Texans!!!!

#1010

Vompatti wrote:
juliets wrote:I still have a Vompatii suspicion. I guess a vote force could be in one of the secrets but as people pointed out voting for rabbit again doesn't make sense in the context of a force for the first vote. So I'm going to ask Vomps again, will you share with us what your personal reasons were for your rabbit vote? Also, SVS makes a good point about why bea's team didnt push more for Vomps.
I most certainly will NOT.

He's not exactly helping his chances, is he?

#1011

Also: Where is the poll?

#1012

insertnamehere wrote:Also: Where is the poll?

Not up yet.

#1013

insertnamehere wrote:Welcome back Droopy, you still have an from me.

Why? I know there are secrets, but without actually seeing a Seemer role, all it is is speculation. If he is NOT who he says he is, at least one person, Zappa, will know after the next night, because if Zappa has not already found Beefheart, he certainly will do so now. If someone is a Seemer, it certainly would be the worst possible thing to show up as a civ BTSC role, lol.

#1014

Maybe the role's fake role is randomly chosen from the Civvie roles. This is all speculation, by the way.

#1015

Why make that speculation at all, though? If what you are proposing is just a theory, it's one that could be made for anyone thats lynched.

#1016

reywaS wrote:Why make that speculation at all, though? If what you are proposing is just a theory, it's one that could be made for anyone thats lynched.

I know, that's why it's only speculation.

#1017

I don't know if I've ever seen a secret seemer role before. I think every time I've been in a game with a seemer, it's been a known role ability.

#1018

Conversation is good

Based on the way he sounded at the end, I think he really is a civ, though.

Do you have any other suspicions, INH? How do you feel about Vomp?

Linki @ Rey~ me too, but then, you did not play Avant 1. Holy Shit, that game had all kinds of crazy crap, lol, i wouldn't put anything past MP. But like I said, I really do think Droopy is a civ.

#1019

S~V~S wrote:Conversation is good

Based on the way he sounded at the end, I think he really is a civ, though.

Do you have any other suspicions, INH? How do you feel about Vomp?

Linki @ Rey~ me too, but then, you did not play Avant 1. Holy Shit, that game had all kinds of crazy crap, lol, i wouldn't put anything past MP. But like I said, I really do think Droopy is a civ.

Vomp's acting like he wants to be lynched, and doesn't really act as if he cares. This could just be that he just doesn't care anymore, or it could have some secret role magic involved. Or maybe he doesn't understand the game.

#1020

FYI

Poker is on hold for about an hour. Those who are still interested and have not yet had the chance to play will do so from about 7:00PM EST until 10:00PM EST! If you are interested, please post in that game thread and vote for which variation will be played for the final few hours.

Now back to your regularly scheduled mafia game.

#1021

insertnamehere wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Conversation is good

Based on the way he sounded at the end, I think he really is a civ, though.

Do you have any other suspicions, INH? How do you feel about Vomp?

Linki @ Rey~ me too, but then, you did not play Avant 1. Holy Shit, that game had all kinds of crazy crap, lol, i wouldn't put anything past MP. But like I said, I really do think Droopy is a civ.
Vomp's acting like he wants to be lynched, and doesn't really act as if he cares. This could just be that he just doesn't care anymore, or it could have some secret role magic involved. Or maybe he doesn't understand the game.

he played once before that i am aware of, and he was a very awesome first time player. He fooled a lot of people, and his randomness helped him do that. So while his own behavior is raising the brow, I am more curious as to why Beas team did not try to lynch him when she started taking votes.

If it was the whimsical behavior (although Rabbit might not consider taking votes from him for unexplained "personal reasons" to be whimsical) alone, or the Day 2 lynch alone, I would just watch, and not act. But both..

Still, after 2 reasonably unopposed civ lynches, the total lack of a defense is also making me second guess myself.

Were Vomp not on the table, who else would people be looking at?

SVS would like to hear more from chaindeath who also was suspected for potentially saving Bea. I am interested in Juliets' opinions as well, I like to know we see eye to eye.

#1022

triceratopzeuhl wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
triceratopzeuhl wrote:Welcome back droopy.

Hard to tell whether surviving an NK is civ or baddie. Not even counting all the role secrets, I see multiple ways that somebody of either persuasion could survive an attempt. Not sure this result helps us label the two attempted targets at all. We don't even know if it's good or bad that they survived. We do know, though, that neither Ziltoid nor Herman killed a civ tonight for sure, so that's positive

And yeah, I don't see myself not voting vomps - barring a bad slip up
There are a lot of secrets, but seems to me most of the survivability powers are civ. Captain Spectacular survives Ziltoid attacks, Omnidimensional Creator can survive any attack, Mike Patton can impersonate Spectacular or the Creator to gain immunity. Moondog "conceals," Exuma "keeps away evil spirits," etc. I think it's significantly less likely that either of the survivors are baddies.
Except that it sounds like an entire baddie team has potential for an NK protect

• Ziltoidian Monk – He prays every night for the safety of Ziltoid and his comrades. If his prayer is successful, any members on his team may live to see another day. Naturally, he prays harder for his own survival than anyone else’s, however. (Secrets)

Plus there is a hell of a lot of secrets, including at least one zany target/role/summat switching power, which I think we saw on night one. Plus a whole team all of whose powers seem to be "loves chaos", lol.

#1023

Have you guys checked out the poker thread?? THAT is amazing!

#1024

Yeah, it mainly seems to be burying this thread, lol~

#1025

S~V~S wrote:
Plus there is a hell of a lot of secrets, including at least one zany target/role/summat switching power, which I think we saw on night one. Plus a whole team all of whose powers seem to be "loves chaos", lol.

Well now, hold on. After night one you made a big deal about how DFaraday was a bad target to NK, which is why I and maybe a couple other people were looking at you, but now you've entirely changed your position to that it was redirected. Baddie slip up, or just taking your own theories too seriously?

#1026

Lol SVS, give me a little time to settle in! I agree with you about Vompatii for the same reasons actually so we see the same there. I haven't looked past him yet because i haven't had a chance to look at the thread by person and do some read backs. I don't know half the people here so that is going to be tricksy, plus as you know, I look for thread evidence and have a hard time with just "gut feel", though gut feel with a little evidence I will act on. So give me a little time to look around.

And also the poker game is def awesome.

And sorry wabbit, but I watched the game all the way to the end to see if I could see you in the crowd.

#1027

triceratopzeuhl wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Plus there is a hell of a lot of secrets, including at least one zany target/role/summat switching power, which I think we saw on night one. Plus a whole team all of whose powers seem to be "loves chaos", lol.
Well now, hold on. After night one you made a big deal about how DFaraday was a bad target to NK, which is why I and maybe a couple other people were looking at you, but now you've entirely changed your position to that it was redirected. Baddie slip up, or just taking your own theories too seriously?

LOL, I said that this was why i said that.

You have been trying WAAAAAAAYYYY too hard to paint me bad. As i recall you were looking at me, and a few people that understood what I was getting at and backed off.

Linki @ JC~ I am not really paying attention to poker, I am trying to concentrate on this thread. You said you had read the thread, did you get any initial impressions?

#1028

Well, being in a different thread, I kinda think the poker is slowing discussion~every time i think there is a post in the game, it is in there, lol, so I will bbl. Maybe the poker will have slowed down in the AM.

Is anyone suspicious of anyone but Vomp???

#1029

S~V~S wrote:Well, being in a different thread, I kinda think the poker is slowing discussion~every time i think there is a post in the game, it is in there, lol, so I will bbl. Maybe the poker will have slowed down in the AM.

Is anyone suspicious of anyone but Vomp???

Poker finishes by 10:00PM EST as an FYI.

#1030

S~V~S wrote:Well, being in a different thread, I kinda think the poker is slowing discussion~every time i think there is a post in the game, it is in there, lol, so I will bbl. Maybe the poker will have slowed down in the AM.

Is anyone suspicious of anyone but Vomp???

Yes.

#1031

AWESOME. Can you elarorate, plz, kthx??

#1032

#1033

Any reason other than the fact that he wanted to avoid a penalty?

Don;t make other people do all the work, man~

#1034

S~V~S wrote:Any reason other than the fact that he wanted to avoid a penalty?

Don;t make other people do all the work, man~

You know, sometimes I wonder if people read my posts at all :P

As I said

1. Rabbit defended his contest behavior while bringing up Epig as suspect for posting and not voting. (Even if it was just a joke, Rabbit's on my list and him helping out INH only deepens my suspicions.)
2. His vote for bea seems to me to be more of a "go with the flow, don't ruffle any feathers" vote than anything else.

Adding
3. His defense thusfar has been a very snarky "No U" marathon

#1035

Thank you~ I will reread him and you

The fact that NO resistance has come up to Vomp is making me incredibly paranoid that we are looking at another civ. Or not. GAH.

i am going to bed before i paranoid myself into a corner.

#1036

S~V~S wrote:
triceratopzeuhl wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Plus there is a hell of a lot of secrets, including at least one zany target/role/summat switching power, which I think we saw on night one. Plus a whole team all of whose powers seem to be "loves chaos", lol.
Well now, hold on. After night one you made a big deal about how DFaraday was a bad target to NK, which is why I and maybe a couple other people were looking at you, but now you've entirely changed your position to that it was redirected. Baddie slip up, or just taking your own theories too seriously?
LOL, I said that this was why i said that.

You have been trying WAAAAAAAYYYY too hard to paint me bad. As i recall you were looking at me, and a few people that understood what I was getting at and backed off.

No

More like, there is reason at all to believe that NK was redirected unless it was your NK

#1037

I still don't like rabbit. He turned everyone on me because I voted late for him, rather than bea. Vomp also has me concerned with the lack of explanations. I'd hate for Vomp to turn up good and get voted out because they won't say anything of value...

#1038

Just call me Ol' One Chip.

#1039

Oh shit! What's this +/- nonsense!!!

#1040

The poker tournament has ended. Thanks to everyone who participated!

The poll is now up. You have 24 hours to vote.

#1041

Guess I'm fucked. See ya everyone.

#1042

Epignosis wrote:Guess I'm fucked. See ya everyone.

Lol...you start with 3 votes....I'm pretty sure at least that many people have committed to Vomp already. However, the fact that you jump on this so quickly worries me.

#1043

Mr. Droopy Cash wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Guess I'm fucked. See ya everyone.
Lol...you start with 3 votes....I'm pretty sure at least that many people have committed to Vomp already. However, the fact that you jump on this so quickly worries me.

Jump on the fact that I have three plus votes? That's kind of lazy "sleuthing" isn't it?

Anyway, I'll vote for Vomps now. He's done.

#1044

Epignosis wrote:
Mr. Droopy Cash wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Guess I'm fucked. See ya everyone.
Lol...you start with 3 votes....I'm pretty sure at least that many people have committed to Vomp already. However, the fact that you jump on this so quickly worries me.

Jump on the fact that I have three plus votes? That's kind of lazy "sleuthing" isn't it?

Anyway, I'll vote for Vomps now. He's done.

Very lazy!

#1045

Maybe it means every vote against you is counted as three votes

#1046

DharmaHelper wrote:Maybe it means every vote against you is counted as three votes

Maybe it does. So?

#1047

DharmaHelper wrote:Just call me Ol' One Chip.

At least I'm not a Stool Pigeon.

#1048

Just finished going over the final results of the poker game (the last 2-3 hands were a bit more interesting because my gf was over for a bit so I had to juggle talking with her and playing poker). Thanks to everyone who played, it was a lot of fun everyone! Also, special thanks to Droopy for being willing to give me so many chips from my all-in call!

Haha

I know I am definitely still suspicious of Vomps, but I have to be at work in 9 hours so I am going to get to bed. I get off at 2 (or 4 if they ask me to stay for a full 8 hours) so I will have plenty of time tomorrow afternoon and evening to read more before making a final decision.

#1049

Hmm...

Who is most suspicious at this point in time?

Excellent questions.

#1050

Epignosis wrote:
Mr. Droopy Cash wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Guess I'm fucked. See ya everyone.
Lol...you start with 3 votes....I'm pretty sure at least that many people have committed to Vomp already. However, the fact that you jump on this so quickly worries me.

Jump on the fact that I have three plus votes? That's kind of lazy "sleuthing" isn't it?

Anyway, I'll vote for Vomps now. He's done.

Well, before Droops got revealed, I (along with a lot of others) felt that Vomps was his teammate. Nothing has come up that changes that suspicion for me, and if Droops is civ, so is Vomps. I'll be looking elsewhere for now...

Who killed Boomslang?