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I feel like fred is sheeping my posts
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Actually yeah you're right. The alternative explanation is rather simple:Golden wrote:I don't think it has to indicate a 'switch' at all. Sure, you and fred could have been targeted by busdriver Eloh, but all it needs indicate is that I was targeted by a redirector.
Marmot redirected you (and him targeting you on N1 sounds believable by default), and Elohcin targeted Fredwood with whatever. If Elohcin is Marmot's teammate though this'd mean that two baddies targeted Fredwood simultaneously. That'd be weird.
I dunno, I don't think Eloh looks like a civilian at face value.
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No, marmot is a busdriver! He can't redirect me! And if he targeted Fred I would have seen him!
this conversation is hilarious. I think everyone except Jay gets it.
this conversation is hilarious. I think everyone except Jay gets it.
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Lynches are approximately:
Joh - 5
INH - 3
Everyone else - ?
I'm iffy, but we need to figure something out. Otherwise, we'll have 20 minutes of sitting and Jack will die. 16 alive. Please, everyone throw a vote on your top suspect or a lynch thing. This is going to kill us.
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Joh - 5
INH - 3
Everyone else - ?
I'm iffy, but we need to figure something out. Otherwise, we'll have 20 minutes of sitting and Jack will die. 16 alive. Please, everyone throw a vote on your top suspect or a lynch thing. This is going to kill us.
What is a CFD?
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Lol, if anyone bothered to pay attention to me or do that ISO they promised to, I've been on this from the jump, I believe Speedchuck was the first discussion I had about it.Golden wrote:I feel like fred is sheeping my posts
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
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I'll keep it brief while time is short. He joined the game on Day 2 or 3 and immediately bussed his teammate (who I believe was Elohcin). I don't know whether she requested it or he just opted for that strategy. It earned him solid credit until late in the game. Generally his activity level and conveyance of emotion were very well within the image he promotes as a civilian, so his mimicry was to be commended. In the end he became harder to trust when he tunneled Dom to kingdom come for pretty much no sensible reason -- he embraced his tunnely/tinfoily reputation and put it in overdrive.Golden wrote:I did not play Mad Max and don't know baddie Quin. Tell me more.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've had some similar issues with Quin as JOH. I think Quin appears more authentic between the two at face value, though faking authenticity may be his best Mafia trait.
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I had one with SLoonei and just recently had one with Juliets....maybe.Fredwood wrote:Lol, if anyone bothered to pay attention to me or do that ISO they promised to, I've been on this from the jump, I believe Speedchuck was the first discussion I had about it.Golden wrote:I feel like fred is sheeping my posts
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
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This is fair. I'm gonna stop townreading Eloh by default.Fredwood wrote: Why would there be any indication that you were switched with me? It's a possibility, but is certainly not the only or best explanation for his results. A standard Misdirect, a Controlled Misdirect, a Nexus, a pusher, a mirror a combination of another interaction with Marmot's Busdrive, that are all independent of Eloh's targeting of me.
Still better options for a lynch, and we have 23 minutes left to decide that and talk about items if we want to.
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Fredwood is desperate for some sweet lovin' but he's being avoided like the plague. Poor Fredwood.Fredwood wrote:Lol, if anyone bothered to pay attention to me or do that ISO they promised to, I've been on this from the jump, I believe Speedchuck was the first discussion I had about it.Golden wrote:I feel like fred is sheeping my posts
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The thing that really gets me is that both Sloonei and Quin said your tinfoil was part of the reason they were voting for me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:You're taking my wording too literally.Quin wrote:It does kind of read as though if this were a BTSC slip, it'd look bad for you because of your part in what he's saying. If you're not bad, I wouldn't actually put much stake in it. Unless you think he's straight up lying.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I never asserted or implied that JOH is the only player who'd have killed Nacho.Quin wrote:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHJaggedJimmyJay wrote:The highlighted portion never existed in this game thread.Jackofhearts2005 wrote:My read on you started out good as you were scumhunting, went south as we had strategic disagreements about slipgate, further went down when you came up with that tinfoil about Nacho's joke post and how only I would kill him. You've now gone back up due to being copped by a player I trust.
really?
JOH is referring to the work I did early on Day 2 to try to discern what insight could be gained from the Nacho kill. One suspect I named was JOH, he wasn't the sole suspect. His use of the word "only" is a misrepresentation of what I did.
It's not the only thing but I hate that it's there. If you had just had a bad tinfoil, discarded it and that was that...okay.
But two players are including a laughable tinfoil as a reason to lynch me. Maddening.
The only thing anyone should take from that tinfoil is maybe a no w/w between me and you.
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@nutella - sorry for not replying sooner. I'm not sure what to make of inh's defence of marmot. He doesn't fit in any conventional mould that I can think of, so I find him hard to predict at the best of times.
Why I don't like him is his lack of contribution, which isn't like the town inh I'm used to.
Why I don't like him is his lack of contribution, which isn't like the town inh I'm used to.
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On the item front, I mean, just vote for your biggest civ read unless it sounds like something not so good. I don't think there's a need to throw names out or anything.speedchuck wrote:This is fair. I'm gonna stop townreading Eloh by default.Fredwood wrote: Why would there be any indication that you were switched with me? It's a possibility, but is certainly not the only or best explanation for his results. A standard Misdirect, a Controlled Misdirect, a Nexus, a pusher, a mirror a combination of another interaction with Marmot's Busdrive, that are all independent of Eloh's targeting of me.
Still better options for a lynch, and we have 23 minutes left to decide that and talk about items if we want to.
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I just realized sprityo's bus driver is not the same as my bus driver (the bus driver role I came to know on RYM). Oh.Golden wrote:No, marmot is a busdriver! He can't redirect me! And if he targeted Fred I would have seen him!
this conversation is hilarious. I think everyone except Jay gets it.
Yeah I don't get it. Regardless I don't consider it a great reason to give Elohcin a pass.
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ISO ME DAMNIT, gimme attention.Quin wrote:Fredwood is desperate for some sweet lovin' but he's being avoided like the plague. Poor Fredwood.Fredwood wrote:Lol, if anyone bothered to pay attention to me or do that ISO they promised to, I've been on this from the jump, I believe Speedchuck was the first discussion I had about it.Golden wrote:I feel like fred is sheeping my posts
Was I the same as when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I am not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?
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Chinese Fire Drill - Sudden bandwagon at EoD! It's the best. It's yuge. It's great. it's true.speedchuck wrote:Lynches are approximately:
Joh - 5
INH - 3
Everyone else - ?
I'm iffy, but we need to figure something out. Otherwise, we'll have 20 minutes of sitting and Jack will die. 16 alive. Please, everyone throw a vote on your top suspect or a lynch thing. This is going to kill us.
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I asked you to point out which part I brought up in an earlier post was the tinfoil/mistake. I still don't know what you're talking about when you say this.Jackofhearts2005 wrote:The thing that really gets me is that both Sloonei and Quin said your tinfoil was part of the reason they were voting for me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:You're taking my wording too literally.Quin wrote:It does kind of read as though if this were a BTSC slip, it'd look bad for you because of your part in what he's saying. If you're not bad, I wouldn't actually put much stake in it. Unless you think he's straight up lying.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I never asserted or implied that JOH is the only player who'd have killed Nacho.Quin wrote:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHJaggedJimmyJay wrote:The highlighted portion never existed in this game thread.Jackofhearts2005 wrote:My read on you started out good as you were scumhunting, went south as we had strategic disagreements about slipgate, further went down when you came up with that tinfoil about Nacho's joke post and how only I would kill him. You've now gone back up due to being copped by a player I trust.
really?
JOH is referring to the work I did early on Day 2 to try to discern what insight could be gained from the Nacho kill. One suspect I named was JOH, he wasn't the sole suspect. His use of the word "only" is a misrepresentation of what I did.
It's not the only thing but I hate that it's there. If you had just had a bad tinfoil, discarded it and that was that...okay.
But two players are including a laughable tinfoil as a reason to lynch me. Maddening.
The only thing anyone should take from that tinfoil is maybe a no w/w between me and you.
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I don't think LC is a great choice. I don't know what anyone's beef with him is.
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Nobody said anything about this at the time to my memory, so...
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I looked into this. For reference, I am referring to her last post in this game:JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Elohcin, you said you were following the pack. I am pretty sure I have seen you do this exact thing before in a game where you didn't keep up, though I can't remember which one or what your alignment was. I'll try to find it.
I thought the parallel was more recent, but I traced it back to Turf Wars from April 2016.Elohcin wrote:I'm going to vote before I forget. I'm trusting the people...Dyslexicon.
Turf Wars Elohcin
She was mafia in that game. The important contextual qualifier is that she subbed in quite late and showed no intention of catching up. Nonetheless the parallel is close and that's not ideal.
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You know what.
Lynch INH.
That is were my gut is at.
Lynch INH.
That is were my gut is at.
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No no no. Marmot's role targets the two targets that are switched (in this case that would be you and Fredwood). If this happened, then Eloh would have targeted you originally and been switched to Fred, but presumably Marmot's busdrive would also be seen as targeting Fred.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Actually yeah you're right. The alternative explanation is rather simple:Golden wrote:I don't think it has to indicate a 'switch' at all. Sure, you and fred could have been targeted by busdriver Eloh, but all it needs indicate is that I was targeted by a redirector.
Marmot redirected you (and him targeting you on N1 sounds believable by default), and Elohcin targeted Fredwood with whatever. If Elohcin is Marmot's teammate though this'd mean that two baddies targeted Fredwood simultaneously. That'd be weird.
I dunno, I don't think Eloh looks like a civilian at face value.
What Golden and Fred are trying to tell you is that Golden's target could have been redirected by something other than a busdrive (Fred has lots of fancy words for different things I don't understand, but one possibility is that someone has a role that allows them to be like "If Golden targets someone, switch that target to [either someone random or specifically Fredwood]"
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You'd be wrong.Quin wrote:There's a line. I'd be inclined to believe this if it wasn't made obvious that Silver was a vig. Would you just never kill him for the sake of community? I don't think so.Jackofhearts2005 wrote:PLZ SLOONEIJackofhearts2005 wrote:Actually, that's a great argument.
Sloonei, we talked about my frustration with HCRealms. Not enough real scumhunting. Not enough participation. I loved the heck out Unfortunate Events. I recruited you over to HCRealms for a game and didn't kill you even though you were far and away the strongest townie and I was scum. Then I recruited Silver and Fred to play here.
Everyone's seen me pushing Fred to give more reads. I clearly want my Realms bros to get Syndicate mafia style exposure.
I didn't kill Silver Lantern. I wanted him to stay alive very badly.
SLOONEI PLZ
You know I care more about community than winning. I didn't kill Silver Lantern.
Silver would have killed INH, anyhow, who I am voting for.
@Dys: I don't find his accusations against you to be disingenuous. I agreed with/acknowledged most of them, and I'm getting a good tonal read from him. He hasn't really earned my advocation against his lynch, but I don't think he's a good choice today.
Sloonei kicked my tail in the big crossover champion game.
Then he came to HCRealms, was town while I was mafia and I choose not to have him nightkilled for what? 5 nights? 4? He was the biggest threat (til JJJ replaced in) but I left him alive.
Sloonei having fun in our game and the others getting to play with him was more important to me than winning that game.
Same thing would absolutely apply to Silver in this one.
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Can't that person be Elohcin? She targets Golden and Fredwood.nutella wrote:but one possibility is that someone has a role that allows them to be like "If Golden targets someone, switch that target to [either someone random or specifically Fredwood]"
Whatever, I hate redirecting roles.
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Maybe I would be up for a CFD. I disagree with Jack's philosophy of community > winning in this specific context, but I can understand it and I'm a sucker for a good appeal.
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Aaaaaa I want votals I am trying to decide if I should switch to INH because I am feeling less confident about Jack atm. I'm feeling very frazzled and not very confident about this lynch overall. Idk who I suspect most.
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I would like it more if it wasn't the exact same thing I said earlier in the game about Nacho.Quin wrote:Maybe I would be up for a CFD. I disagree with Jack's philosophy of community > winning in this specific context, but I can understand it and I'm a sucker for a good appeal.
I could lynch INH though. He's staring at this EOD madness and _________________.
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I feel the same wayyyynutella wrote:Aaaaaa I want votals I am trying to decide if I should switch to INH because I am feeling less confident about Jack atm. I'm feeling very frazzled and not very confident about this lynch overall. Idk who I suspect most.
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I suppose there is no better time to say this but, typically, in CPI style, a tie results in a NO LYNCH.
I think i'll continue this tradition being as this game is my traditions being presented here
I think i'll continue this tradition being as this game is my traditions being presented here
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I'm expecting a wall post.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I would like it more if it wasn't the exact same thing I said earlier in the game about Nacho.Quin wrote:Maybe I would be up for a CFD. I disagree with Jack's philosophy of community > winning in this specific context, but I can understand it and I'm a sucker for a good appeal.
I could lynch INH though. He's staring at this EOD madness and _________________.
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It's well known among Mafiologists that JJJ hates no lynches.
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goddamn itQuin wrote:I'm expecting a wall post.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I would like it more if it wasn't the exact same thing I said earlier in the game about Nacho.Quin wrote:Maybe I would be up for a CFD. I disagree with Jack's philosophy of community > winning in this specific context, but I can understand it and I'm a sucker for a good appeal.
I could lynch INH though. He's staring at this EOD madness and _________________.
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Is a tie a no lynch?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:It's well known among Mafiologists that JJJ hates no lynches.
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YeahGolden wrote:Is a tie a no lynch?JaggedJimmyJay wrote:It's well known among Mafiologists that JJJ hates no lynches.
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I'm as well considering shifting the times of day start/end to 11pm EST instead of 10 since im not able to give you guys votals in critical times it seems.
I will definitely put this into effect for this next phase, currently considering to extend tonight
I will definitely put this into effect for this next phase, currently considering to extend tonight
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I'm expecting a ninja vote.Quin wrote:I'm expecting a wall post.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I would like it more if it wasn't the exact same thing I said earlier in the game about Nacho.Quin wrote:Maybe I would be up for a CFD. I disagree with Jack's philosophy of community > winning in this specific context, but I can understand it and I'm a sucker for a good appeal.
I could lynch INH though. He's staring at this EOD madness and _________________.
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Linki - Oh look. A ninja vote.
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I could CFD Soneji. Scotty's the other option, but I'm not an asshole.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:My face when Soneji's vote is pointless
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 3 - Karma
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 3 - Karma
can someone please link to the nonsense case against me, so I have something to respond to? Cause all I'm reading is people bitching at me for suspecting Dyslexicon, and bitching at me for not being on the MM train.
I guess I just pissed off the wrong people
I guess I just pissed off the wrong people
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 3 - Karma
I heard that.Quin wrote:I could CFD Soneji. Scotty's the other option, but I'm not an asshole.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:My face when Soneji's vote is pointless
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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 3 - Karma
Tell me moarinsertnamehere wrote:welp
time for a hail mary
I'M AN INDEPENDENT LMS ROLE
Spoiler: show
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