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[insertnamehere]

That's crap on the INH list. His top townies were basic non participants (at the time) because they hadn't said anything suspicious yet. That's not remotely helpful.

Okay, now you're just being willfully ignorant.

The top three were Boom, Sprit, and Quin. None of which are inacts. I admitted that I'm not good at townreading people. You ignore literally everything else I've done, and find one negative thing about a rainbow list, which isn't even accurate.

And you think Golden tunneling? Buddy, you're vice president of the goddamn Boring Company.

[Golden]

So, Jack, your explanation on the vehement opposition to the rico lynch, initially, was just that in the moment you feared a runaway lynch for bad reasons and you didn't want that to happen? But, now you are open to the idea rico could be bad, so you are backing off how vehement you were a bit?

[Golden]

That's crap on the INH list. His top townies were basic non participants (at the time) because they hadn't said anything suspicious yet. That's not remotely helpful.

Okay, now you're just being willfully ignorant.

The top three were Boom, Sprit, and Quin. None of which are inacts. I admitted that I'm not good at townreading people. You ignore literally everything else I've done, and find one negative thing about a rainbow list, which isn't even accurate.

And you think Golden tunneling? Buddy, you're vice president of the goddamn Boring Company.

That wasn't the musk I associated with rico.

[TonyStarkPrime]

@Golden

I'm silencing myself when I love to heard myself talk or I'm giving my team minus two votes by burning a vote steal on myself?

Who am I teamed with? You, Quin and Speed have been the only ones taking my side for most of the game and I'm suddenly on you and Speed's shortlist.

You're tunneling. Take a step back.

I'm far from tunnelling. I'm working out my vote, and I'm getting you to engage with me. Don't ask me who you're teamed with as though that is convincing, for all I know it's LC and timmer, I don't find the concept persuasive. I have no way to know whether you are being honest about the silencing thing - it rings true, but its wifom.

I've singlehandedly gotten most of the Realms to drop the silencer role by bitching about how being silenced isn't fun.

An early idea I had for the game I'm working on is a neutral who could only silence JOH.

[Quin]

Is there an actual case on Boomslang somewhere?

The case is only his relative absence.

But he's voted every day, which looks a lot more scummy for 16-odd posts.

I don't think so. I care more about the quality of his 16 posts than the fact that he has 16 posts.

[Golden]

Tony, anything to say on jacks claims about silencing?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Is there an actual case on Boomslang somewhere?

The case is only his relative absence.

But he's voted every day, which looks a lot more scummy for 16-odd posts.

I don't think so. I care more about the quality of his 16 posts than the fact that he has 16 posts.

Fair. I was thinking more about how the fact that he's voted every day would mean he is still paying attention, he just wants to avoid suspicion easier.

[Golden]

Nothing about boomslangs posting rate feels meta indicative to me, he's always quieter.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tony, anything to say on jacks claims about silencing?

He really hates it. I cleared him of being an SMaf the instant he didn't post that day.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Nothing about boomslangs posting rate feels meta indicative to me, he's always quieter.

Good to know, that sways me a little bit against voting for him.

[Quin]

speedchuck, why the sudden 180 on your read of sprityo?

[Golden]

Tony, anything to say on jacks claims about silencing?

He really hates it. I cleared him of being an SMaf the instant he didn't post that day.

That's helpful thanks.

[Quin]

On that, speedchuck, you're voting Boomslang for a lack of a case either way, but you seem to have a case on sprityo being scum. Why?

[speedchuck]

I've singlehandedly gotten most of the Realms to drop the silencer role by bitching about how being silenced isn't fun.

Aye. Where I come from, most game have guarantees. Such as:

Guarantees: This setup involves no cults, jesters, obliterators, quicktopic spying, mod bastardry, alignment-changing, or game-ending third party win conditions.

Guarantees: This setup involves no guarantees. Well, except for wincons that end the game early, silencers, and any other roles you monsters might come up with that I deem would only ruin someone's fun. While many of these general rules could be broken by designing roles around them, this one is guaranteed to remain intact.

Those are two examples. Not complaining, Nju. Different places, different values.

[Quin]

I voted Rico. I want to save Jack.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tony, anything to say on jacks claims about silencing?

He really hates it. I cleared him of being an SMaf the instant he didn't post that day.

That's helpful thanks.

He's a trickster, but I don't think he's quite that tricky.

[Golden]

Jack, I really want an answer on my question about the progression of your rico read.

[Jackofhearts2005]

So, Jack, your explanation on the vehement opposition to the rico lynch, initially, was just that in the moment you feared a runaway lynch for bad reasons and you didn't want that to happen? But, now you are open to the idea rico could be bad, so you are backing off how vehement you were a bit?

Yeah, basically.



@INH

I am super interesting and not a mean person and I have seen a couple naked women.

Stop picking on me.

[insertnamehere]

So, Jack, your explanation on the vehement opposition to the rico lynch, initially, was just that in the moment you feared a runaway lynch for bad reasons and you didn't want that to happen? But, now you are open to the idea rico could be bad, so you are backing off how vehement you were a bit?

Yeah, basically.



@INH

I am super interesting and not a mean person and I have seen a couple naked women.

Stop picking on me.

You first.

[Golden]

No, because I could vote to lynch you and I don't want to if I'm wrong.

Next - do you have any particular reason why I should not see rico as a politician?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Voting for INH.

INH

[Jackofhearts2005]

No, because I could vote to lynch you and I don't want to if I'm wrong.

Next - do you have any particular reason why I should not see rico as a politician?

No.

[Jackofhearts2005]

(Like right now, I would love to be able to vote. Like a lot.)

[insertnamehere]

The last time TSP did a last-minute vote for me, a civilian got lynched.

Just sayin'.

[TonyStarkPrime]

(Like right now, I would love to be able to vote. Like a lot.)

Who'd you have voted for?

[TonyStarkPrime]

The last time TSP did a last-minute vote for me, a civilian got lynched.

Just sayin'.

Didn't LC get lynched?

LC got lynched.

[insertnamehere]

The last time TSP did a last-minute vote for me, a civilian got lynched.

Just sayin'.

Didn't LC get lynched?

LC got lynched.

Oh yeah. Correction.

Last time TSP did a last-minute vote for me, a baddie almost got saved.

[speedchuck]

speedchuck, why the sudden 180 on your read of sprityo?

Which one?

I keep going back and forth on Sprit. He's grown a lot as a player since the first time I played with him.

[Golden]

I voted jack.

A part of me immediately regrets it's not rico, but jacks sudden vehement defender of rico was baseless and out of place, and his recusal from the position feels self-defensive. Besides, tying the vote allows me to see who breaks the tie and how.

jack

[Jackofhearts2005]

(Like right now, I would love to be able to vote. Like a lot.)

Who'd you have voted for?

Probably INH but I'd vote either him or Rico to save myself.

If I was king, I might lynch Boomslang.

I really need to go back through the role list. Find out how some know what they know.

[Quin]

speedchuck, why the sudden 180 on your read of sprityo?

Which one?

I keep going back and forth on Sprit. He's grown a lot as a player since the first time I played with him.

The latest one. I didn't go all the way back in your posts for lack of time.

[Golden]

Sorry if I'm wrong. Rico is still a good choice, and one that would have made my life significantly easier to boot.

Jack clearly not strex though, but being forced to vote people you already suspect, and criticising the curses? It's all so wifom.

[TonyStarkPrime]

(Like right now, I would love to be able to vote. Like a lot.)

Who'd you have voted for?

Probably INH but I'd vote either him or Rico to save myself.

If I was king, I might lynch Boomslang.

I really need to go back through the role list. Find out how some know what they know.

Some might be pretending they know more than they do.
I've done that at least once this game.

[speedchuck]

I put Jack on the list for a while, but still can't reconcile him with the silence/vote forcing

linki: I'll have to get back to you on what the latest one is, Quin. I promise I'll answer your question in the next 24 hours. Hold me to it. But I'm going to ISO Sprit in the night period.

[Quin]

I put Jack on the list for a while, but still can't reconcile him with the silence/vote forcing

linki: I'll have to get back to you on what the latest one is, Quin. I promise I'll answer your question in the next 24 hours. Hold me to it. But I'm going to ISO Sprit in the night period.

The fact that you keep going back and forth helps me a little anyway, I just happened to see one of your top town reads making your lynch shortlist and it worried me. Looking forward to the ISO.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@Golden

If I die what happens when I flip town?

You'll learn nothing today if I die except I was telling the truth about a few things.

At least a Rico flip tells us something definitive about INH.

Your vote was a poor choice. I don't think you are bad.

[Golden]

Well, this is exciting. Three viable lynch candidates and I could see any one of them flipping good or bad. Fingers crossed we get a baddie.

[Golden]

At least a Rico flip tells us something definitive about INH.

Your vote was a poor choice. I don't think you are bad.

I was conflicted until the end. If I got it wrong c'est la vie, I gave it my best shot. I was expecting Dom to break the tie (and clearly epi can't vote when silenced? Yeah?)

[Jackofhearts2005]

Those in both BV AND ROTTK who haven't been cursed this game and who are still alive: INH, Wilgy, and timmer. So...
Eggs are yummy,
With spinach and cheese.
Today I'll be voting
One of these.

You can double check my stats, wilgy.

If you look at the lists I posted above, I already did that.
You missed Epi. To be fair, INH had missed him first, and I assume you were basing off his list.

Also, what do you think about Jack's thought that there could be 2 different players on the team who were each in one of the games?

Is it really not conceivable to anyone other myself that someone who wasn't directly linked to one of those games either read the thread or was aware of the gimmicks from both games?

I mean, come on. The people insisting that it HAS to be someone who played both games are more than a little suspicious to me right now.

Think of it like this: Rico's curse on D2 attracted a crazy amount of heat for people involved with Blue Velvet. By intentionally choosing to do the same thing with Dom and Rot3k, they're essentially designing a Venn Diagram of people they want us to look at.

Odds are seeming higher and higher to me that the Faceless Old Woman was involved with one at most of these games, and researched gimmicks players used in games she wasn't in to mislead the town and cause mislynches.

There are two possible motives FOW has for cursing people with old-game-specific posting restrictions: Sheer fuckery, or to mislead the town.

I believe it to be the latter.

It seems unlikely, to me, that someone following a game and not playing would know that 2 different self-imposed posts were a thing in 2 different games. I get what you're saying, but I think that it's likely that there are people on that team who were in both games. It's not just that they were both posting restrictions from old games--they were both self imposed restrictions.

I think you're trying to steer us away from those people, which isn't making me feel very good about you.

On the flip, I think you are trying to steer us toward those people, which isn't making me feel very good about you.

Yes, I missed epi because I was following INH's list. So he is now added to the list I wrote earlier: Epi, INH, timmer, and Wilgy. The reaction INH is having here to lorab is off-putting. Isn't it the point of the game to try and find the baddies, make a good case for them, and then try to get others to follow you in lynching who you think is bad? That's all I think lorab is doing here. And she is right that you are trying to steer us clear of the people I just mentioned. I really think out of the four, timmer ia probably not the curser. He's barely been here. I also don't think it's likely that epi is. I don't think he would incriminate himself like that. Wilgy...maybe. You...maybe. I can see either of you doing something like this, but wilgy's reaction to all this talk compared to your reaction screams at you being it.

Two hours to go. I usually vote by now. I just cannot decide. Plus I don't want my vote to not mean anything. I'm leaning INH #justiceforrico

I'm going to go spend time with family and then vote after the kids go to bed.

I see Eloh/Timmer (note how she's taken out of the running) more likely teamed with Rico than INH at this point.

Bleh.

[Dom]

fuck.
i'm online shopping iwth a friend for a wedding
fuck

i would have voted inh

[Dom]

reasons should be obvious

[insertnamehere]

Can I just address the whole perception that me and sprit are a "team?"

It seemed to pop up multiple times over the course of the day.

We just seemed to have the same read on Elo and Rico, and that's it. No BTSC, no funny business.

These kinds of narratives that people push always make me a little nervous, especially when they're ones I know to be false.

[insertnamehere]

reasons should be obvious

I guess I'm just a moron, because I don't get them.

[Golden]

These kinds of narratives that people push always make me a little nervous, especially when they're ones I know to be false.

My pairs list were not 'teams' so much as 'people who are reading the game the same'.

One of the most ludicrous aspects of rico's reads list is the idea that a team would all be reading things the same and busy protecting each other.

[Dom]

i'm happy with a tie.
a tie with most players involved would clear some people of marcus, right?

[insertnamehere]

reasons should be obvious

I guess I'm just a moron, because I don't get them.

alternatively:

[Jackofhearts2005]

Eloh and Timmer are people I don't know that well but I was vote stolen twice.

Third politician will have played with me a bunch.

[Golden]

i'm happy with a tie.
a tie with most players involved would clear some people of marcus, right?

Potentially this lynch result clears three people of being Marcus.

[Golden]

Eloh and Timmer are people I don't know that well but I was vote stolen twice.

Third politician will have played with me a bunch.

Who is included in that list?

[sprityo]

Can I just address the whole perception that me and sprit are a "team?"

It seemed to pop up multiple times over the course of the day.

We just seemed to have the same read on Elo and Rico, and that's it. No BTSC, no funny business.

These kinds of narratives that people push always make me a little nervous, especially when they're ones I know to be false.

its because we voted together two days in a row now. it's just coincidence along with we also agree with eachother

no one is allowed to have the same opinion obv