Street Fighter II Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Tangrowth]

What suspicion?

And nope: you're bad.

Sloonei was already getting heat for his comment from JOH, then you came in and agreed it was "weird", thereby putting more heat on Sloonei whether you intended to or not.

Based on what? You've given no reason.

[Long Con]

What I mean to say is that I don't read your "interest" in the "LC Dhalsim" thing is genuine. YOU are the one trying to fan flames in this instance.

[Long Con]

Sloonei was already getting heat for his comment from JOH

No he wasn't.

[Diiny]

why bother even grappling with the statement if it's not game-related, LC?

If you didn't think sloonei's alien comment was game related, why didn't you use green, off topic text for it? You used it for the post right afterwards.

[Tangrowth]

What I mean to say is that I don't read your "interest" in the "LC Dhalsim" thing is genuine. YOU are the one trying to fan flames in this instance.

I don't understand what you're saying, sorry. Can you reword? Or point to the post(s) where you think I'm not being genuine?

[Tangrowth]

Sloonei was already getting heat for his comment from JOH

No he wasn't.

Am I remembering things out of order? If I'm mistaken, I apologize. Let me go back and look.

[Long Con]

No, I'm not doing that right now. Your general interest and light-touch mild agreement-yet-not about the whole sham.

[Tangrowth]

Sup Din and Dun. What's your story?

Tempted to vote Sloonei for the alien comment.

Do we think the day one poll did anything? Power up Ryu maybe?

.... then this post was literally two posts later, right after another post by JOH:

Could be. I also thought it was weird, calling Dhalsim an alien.

How is that NOT fanning the flames of JOH's suspicion, LC?

[Long Con]

why bother even grappling with the statement if it's not game-related, LC?

If you didn't think sloonei's alien comment was game related, why didn't you use green, off topic text for it? You used it for the post right afterwards.

I'm like a lazy rebel of some sort?

[Tangrowth]

No, I'm not doing that right now. Your general interest and light-touch mild agreement-yet-not about the whole sham.

Bullshit, you need to answer for this. You're calling me bad and not even backing it up. Point to the post(s) where I'm being genuine so I can address your points. You don't even care to consider whether you're wrong, do you?

[Long Con]

Sup Din and Dun. What's your story?

Tempted to vote Sloonei for the alien comment.

Do we think the day one poll did anything? Power up Ryu maybe?

.... then this post was literally two posts later, right after another post by JOH:

Could be. I also thought it was weird, calling Dhalsim an alien.

How is that NOT fanning the flames of JOH's suspicion, LC?

Because it wasn't a real suspicion. We both know it.

You are fanning flames, in this very post.

[Tangrowth]

why bother even grappling with the statement if it's not game-related, LC?

If you didn't think sloonei's alien comment was game related, why didn't you use green, off topic text for it? You used it for the post right afterwards.

I'm like a lazy rebel of some sort?

Is this supposed to be a role hint?

[Long Con]

why bother even grappling with the statement if it's not game-related, LC?

If you didn't think sloonei's alien comment was game related, why didn't you use green, off topic text for it? You used it for the post right afterwards.

I'm like a lazy rebel of some sort?

Is this supposed to be a role hint?

For which role?

And, no.

[Diiny]

[jjj's] neutral for now...

I agree with that assessment.

Alright, well, if I absolutely had to vote for a non-lurker or someone would blow my brains out, it'd actually be for Jay.

-linki Long Con, i'll ask again, why bother talking about how you think it's weird that sloonei called dhalsim an alien when you didn't think it was related to whether he was scum or not? and then not scumhunt at all?

[Tangrowth]

Sup Din and Dun. What's your story?

Tempted to vote Sloonei for the alien comment.

Do we think the day one poll did anything? Power up Ryu maybe?

.... then this post was literally two posts later, right after another post by JOH:

Could be. I also thought it was weird, calling Dhalsim an alien.

How is that NOT fanning the flames of JOH's suspicion, LC?

Because it wasn't a real suspicion. We both know it.

You are fanning flames, in this very post.

I didn't know it. That's why I asked JOH.

[Elohcin]

Oh my goodness! 5 pages since I posted last. What's a girl to do?

[Tangrowth]

Sup Din and Dun. What's your story?

Tempted to vote Sloonei for the alien comment.

Do we think the day one poll did anything? Power up Ryu maybe?

.... then this post was literally two posts later, right after another post by JOH:

Could be. I also thought it was weird, calling Dhalsim an alien.

How is that NOT fanning the flames of JOH's suspicion, LC?

Because it wasn't a real suspicion. We both know it.

You are fanning flames, in this very post.

How? I defended you?

I just cannot even fathom where you are coming from right now. If you don't even want to hear me address any beefs you have, fine. I suppose you can be that way. I won't engage with you then.

[Long Con]

[jjj's] neutral for now...

I agree with that assessment.

Alright, well, if I absolutely had to vote for a non-lurker or someone would blow my brains out, it'd actually be for Jay.

-linki Long Con, i'll ask again, why bother talking about how you think it's weird that sloonei called dhalsim an alien when you didn't think it was related to whether he was scum or not? and then not scumhunt at all?

I thought it. Then I said it. I said what I was thinking. There are thoughts I have which I do not bother to share, but since someone else brought up the same thought, I decided to share.

[Tangrowth]

why bother even grappling with the statement if it's not game-related, LC?

If you didn't think sloonei's alien comment was game related, why didn't you use green, off topic text for it? You used it for the post right afterwards.

I'm like a lazy rebel of some sort?

Is this supposed to be a role hint?

For which role?

And, no.

I don't know; that's why I asked. Consider me just generally confused.

[Tangrowth]

[jjj's] neutral for now...

I agree with that assessment.

Alright, well, if I absolutely had to vote for a non-lurker or someone would blow my brains out, it'd actually be for Jay.

-linki Long Con, i'll ask again, why bother talking about how you think it's weird that sloonei called dhalsim an alien when you didn't think it was related to whether he was scum or not? and then not scumhunt at all?

You snipped out my explanation as to why it would be for Jay. I also posted thoughts on him earlier. This seems a bit manipulative.

[Tangrowth]

[jjj's] neutral for now...

I agree with that assessment.

Alright, well, if I absolutely had to vote for a non-lurker or someone would blow my brains out, it'd actually be for Jay.

-linki Long Con, i'll ask again, why bother talking about how you think it's weird that sloonei called dhalsim an alien when you didn't think it was related to whether he was scum or not? and then not scumhunt at all?

I thought it. Then I said it. I said what I was thinking. There are thoughts I have which I do not bother to share, but since someone else brought up the same thought, I decided to share.

And that's exactly why I defended you earlier. Whether you put stock in meta or not, that's fine, but for me, I find you hard to read, so I put some value in it, especially early on. If you were bad, I feel you would have wavered more before making a post like that. I believe your mindset still shows you didn't care about that, so that's why I don't want to vote for you.

[Diiny]

LC - why did you not have any thoughts re who is scum or any thoughts as to how to find scum

why did you post your useless thoughts

linki- I'm about to analyse it mp

[Long Con]

Sup Din and Dun. What's your story?

Tempted to vote Sloonei for the alien comment.

Do we think the day one poll did anything? Power up Ryu maybe?

.... then this post was literally two posts later, right after another post by JOH:

Could be. I also thought it was weird, calling Dhalsim an alien.

How is that NOT fanning the flames of JOH's suspicion, LC?

Because it wasn't a real suspicion. We both know it.

You are fanning flames, in this very post.

How? I defended you?

I just cannot even fathom where you are coming from right now. If you don't even want to hear me address any beefs you have, fine. I suppose you can be that way. I won't engage with you then.

I think I have been clear.

The idea that JOH was actually suspicious of him is clearly untrue. The idea that I was fanning flames follows as untrue, since the first thing was untrue. You should be able to understand all this, and dismiss the whole idea as not worth following.

You did not do that, you engaged the idea.

Oh, you defended me? Yup. You considered the idea that it made me bad, you chewed on it a bit, you brought it back up like sixteen times, you pretty much made it a *thing*.

All of that was the wrong move, because it revealed to me your falseness.

[Tangrowth]

This is exactly why I said townie LC gets himself in trouble more often than not. I'm still not voting there.

That said, I'm not bad. And I'd rather not lynch Sloonei. Who else is willing to vote for Bass?

[nijuukyugou]

TBH I also have the weird feels about MP based on today's behavior, too, but today I'm gonna tell myself that's my paranoia, mostly because I haven't played with the dude for so long. Also, because I'm thinking it's really him getting back into the game and being careful, since he really just...hasn't played in ages. At all. I'd rather vote for a non-contributor and play with players.

But I am going to vote for his second choice of no-poster, because

[Long Con]

LC - why did you not have any thoughts re who is scum or any thoughts as to how to find scum

why did you post your useless thoughts

linki- I'm about to analyse it mp

I'll let you know who is scum when I have those thoughts. In fact, I have let you know. MP.

[nijuukyugou]

This is exactly why I said townie LC gets himself in trouble more often than not. I'm still not voting there.

That said, I'm not bad. And I'd rather not lynch Sloonei. Who else is willing to vote for Bass?

But I'd also be willing to vote for Bass.

[Tangrowth]

Sup Din and Dun. What's your story?

Tempted to vote Sloonei for the alien comment.

Do we think the day one poll did anything? Power up Ryu maybe?

.... then this post was literally two posts later, right after another post by JOH:

Could be. I also thought it was weird, calling Dhalsim an alien.

How is that NOT fanning the flames of JOH's suspicion, LC?

Because it wasn't a real suspicion. We both know it.

You are fanning flames, in this very post.

How? I defended you?

I just cannot even fathom where you are coming from right now. If you don't even want to hear me address any beefs you have, fine. I suppose you can be that way. I won't engage with you then.

I think I have been clear.

The idea that JOH was actually suspicious of him is clearly untrue. The idea that I was fanning flames follows as untrue, since the first thing was untrue. You should be able to understand all this, and dismiss the whole idea as not worth following.

You did not do that, you engaged the idea.

Oh, you defended me? Yup. You considered the idea that it made me bad, you chewed on it a bit, you brought it back up like sixteen times, you pretty much made it a *thing*.

All of that was the wrong move, because it revealed to me your falseness.

If JOH didn't suspect him, why say anything? It doesn't matter whether the suspicion was RVS or "fake" or whatever, it still was posted in the thread and still influences the course of the game. You influenced the course of the game with your "weird" comment whether you want to believe that or not.

You're wrong, but OK. Clearly you won't let this go. If you have any beefs you actually want me to respond to, let me know.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Listen, I only ever played X-men vs. Streetfighter and in that game Dhalsim was a levitating blue elastic man who breathed fire and I was 8 years old. What was I supposed to think?

Normal Indian guy who does yoga.

[Tangrowth]

Look, I RVS suspected Blooper earlier in the game. We all knew or highly suspected it was RVS. I still influenced the game. Clearly you influenced the game as well, LC, because you got someone voting you because of it.

[nijuukyugou]

Everyone is normal in Street Fighter. Perfectly normal.

[nijuukyugou]

Hey MP, what's RVS? I haven't seen that one.

[Tangrowth]

TBH I also have the weird feels about MP based on today's behavior, too, but today I'm gonna tell myself that's my paranoia, mostly because I haven't played with the dude for so long. Also, because I'm thinking it's really him getting back into the game and being careful, since he really just...hasn't played in ages. At all. I'd rather vote for a non-contributor and play with players.

But I am going to vote for his second choice of no-poster, because

I don't feel my behavior is at all noncongruent with what an old me would do or that I need time to get used to the game. I don't think any of the current floated suspects are worth my vote for various reasons I've spoken for at length, and that makes me seem scummy?

[Tangrowth]

Also, why did you spread the vote, Blooper? Makes it easier to manipulate for the mafia team.

[Tangrowth]

Hey MP, what's RVS? I haven't seen that one.

"Random voting stage", sorry. It just means a suspicion or vote cast as a "fake" suspicion or vote, usually done so in a very obvious fashion, to get reactions or discussion going.

[nijuukyugou]

TBH I also have the weird feels about MP based on today's behavior, too, but today I'm gonna tell myself that's my paranoia, mostly because I haven't played with the dude for so long. Also, because I'm thinking it's really him getting back into the game and being careful, since he really just...hasn't played in ages. At all. I'd rather vote for a non-contributor and play with players.

But I am going to vote for his second choice of no-poster, because

I don't feel my behavior is at all noncongruent with what an old me would do or that I need time to get used to the game. I don't think any of the current floated suspects are worth my vote for various reasons I've spoken for at length, and that makes me seem scummy?

Nah, you just feel all over the place. You're either trying to be helpful, trying to be helpful for yourself to get your thoughts out, or trying to appear helpful. You've done similar things with this behavior as a baddie in the past. (Alas, I do not remember which games precisely at the moment, nor am I going to look them up ATM, since I don't intend to vote you today, anyway.)

[nijuukyugou]

Also, why did you spread the vote, Blooper? Makes it easier to manipulate for the mafia team.

To see if it mattered to you which low poster you wanted to vote for.

[Diiny]

MP: Why did you agree that jay is a neutral read and then say he's the scummiest non-lurker? I've read your explenation which makes me question why you agreed with me that he was neutral.

And I do have the weirds for MP but now more people have showed up and I need to grill them.

And now that there are other bandwagons forming I think I'm safe in saying that I completely agree with JJJ re sloonei. When I was scum with him in AOL he was very much off topic and then defensive. It's what I bussed him for, anyway. It's not much to go on, but for day 1 it's voteable. Considering him for my vote. Also makes me feel safer re JJJ.

Gonna grill these guys before voting though.

[Diiny]

Listen, I only ever played X-men vs. Streetfighter and in that game Dhalsim was a levitating blue elastic man who breathed fire and I was 8 years old. What was I supposed to think?

Normal Indian guy who does yoga.

Believe I asked you a question- fancy answering it?

Who's scum, Jack?
Who's scum?

[Tangrowth]

TBH I also have the weird feels about MP based on today's behavior, too, but today I'm gonna tell myself that's my paranoia, mostly because I haven't played with the dude for so long. Also, because I'm thinking it's really him getting back into the game and being careful, since he really just...hasn't played in ages. At all. I'd rather vote for a non-contributor and play with players.

But I am going to vote for his second choice of no-poster, because

I don't feel my behavior is at all noncongruent with what an old me would do or that I need time to get used to the game. I don't think any of the current floated suspects are worth my vote for various reasons I've spoken for at length, and that makes me seem scummy?

Nah, you just feel all over the place. You're either trying to be helpful, trying to be helpful for yourself to get your thoughts out, or trying to appear helpful. You've done similar things with this behavior as a baddie in the past. (Alas, I do not remember which games precisely at the moment, nor am I going to look them up ATM, since I don't intend to vote you today, anyway.)

I am all over the place. My playstyle is pretty much feeling uncertain about myself at every possible moment except in the occasional instances when I find something I chew over and I convince myself and everyone else I feel the exact opposite even though internally I'm still plagued with indecision.

The "trying to appear helpful" is my baddie MO because it's the only way I can replicate my actual MO, which is spewing all of my indecisive thoughts into the thread at breakneck speed in an attempt to work with other people in real time to make sense of it all -- all because I'm incredibly verbose and not particularly great at discerning whether someone is lying to me over the internet or not.

If you can point out a specific instance in which I seem disingenuous, please let me know, and I'll do my best to clarify where I'm coming from. Otherwise I feel like you all have just forgotten how I usually play.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Sup Din and Dun. What's your story?

Tempted to vote Sloonei for the alien comment.

Do we think the day one poll did anything? Power up Ryu maybe?

I'm not convinced it did anything. Hard to say though.

Why exactly are you tempted to vote Sloonei?

For saying Dhalsim is an alien.

I guess I could say that pretending to not know a theme is scummy but really, it's that Dhalsim is just an Indian dude. Calling him an alien? Thas racist.

Why would it be within scum's interest to pretend not to know this game's theme?

An excuse to be less helpful. Saying things to say things. I don't disbelieve Sloonei, though, hence my emphasis on bs over actually arguing his point was scummy.

You like to toss votes out early, generally speaking? Or are you extra suspicious of me? Or is this your day one style? Trying to get a feel for you.

Hi everyone. I'm here.

My idea is that some people voted for their role instead of their favorite character.

A distinct possibility. Only LC voting for EHonda really stood out as an odd choice.

Ken was objectively better than Ryu in MvC2 so I can see that gaining him some fans, even though the character doesn't really stand on his own.

Simons mom comments make sense, too.


Still catching up but I think I'll make the deadline.



Linki: Linki is broken on mobile. I can read any of that.

[Tangrowth]

Also, why did you spread the vote, Blooper? Makes it easier to manipulate for the mafia team.

To see if it mattered to you which low poster you wanted to vote for.

Sigh. It does matter a little. Bass has a solid history of lurking well into the late stages of the game. DF definitely does not, and I know he lives here in San Antonio with me and Daisy so his reasons for missing the game could be Harvey-related. I suppose I could join you though if you had a real solid preference. I'd rather be consolidated in the end, but I do have a distinct preference for Bass over DF or any low poster for the reasons previously expressed.

[Diiny]

LC - why did you not have any thoughts re who is scum or any thoughts as to how to find scum

why did you post your useless thoughts

linki- I'm about to analyse it mp

I'll let you know who is scum when I have those thoughts. In fact, I have let you know. MP.

Why not try to actively find out though instead of talking about how it's weird sloonei think dhalsim is an alien

[nijuukyugou]

Also, why did you spread the vote, Blooper? Makes it easier to manipulate for the mafia team.

To see if it mattered to you which low poster you wanted to vote for.

Sigh. It does matter a little. Bass has a solid history of lurking well into the late stages of the game. DF definitely does not, and I know he lives here in San Antonio with me and Daisy so his reasons for missing the game could be Harvey-related. I suppose I could join you though if you had a real solid preference. I'd rather be consolidated in the end, but I do have a distinct preference for Bass over DF or any low poster for the reasons previously expressed.

Nah, don't really have a solid preference. Hopefully they're both all right, too!

[Tangrowth]

MP: Why did you agree that jay is a neutral read and then say he's the scummiest non-lurker? I've read your explenation which makes me question why you agreed with me that he was neutral.

And I do have the weirds for MP but now more people have showed up and I need to grill them.

And now that there are other bandwagons forming I think I'm safe in saying that I completely agree with JJJ re sloonei. When I was scum with him in AOL he was very much off topic and then defensive. It's what I bussed him for, anyway. It's not much to go on, but for day 1 it's voteable. Considering him for my vote. Also makes me feel safer re JJJ.

Gonna grill these guys before voting though.

Because I don't actively suspect Jay at all, so I would call him neutral. I just have "weirds" for him, if that makes sense, but they're pretty abstract and I explained to you precisely why I think I would vote for him GTH in that post, even though I wouldn't call him a suspect.

In early stages of games, I don't work well with suspects. I used to be big on grilling people over baseless minutiae in early game but it always ended in a disaster so I purposefully restrain myself from going off into the deep end anymore. If something catches my eye, I inquire the person about it. If that explanation doesn't meet my satisfaction, then I call them a suspect. I haven't yet had that happen this game.

I'll consider your assessment of Sloonei. I just personally didn't read him that way and feel he has been genuine. I'll look over his posts again with your recent experience of him in mind.

[Diiny]

Sup Din and Dun. What's your story?

Tempted to vote Sloonei for the alien comment.

Do we think the day one poll did anything? Power up Ryu maybe?

I'm not convinced it did anything. Hard to say though.

Why exactly are you tempted to vote Sloonei?

For saying Dhalsim is an alien.

I guess I could say that pretending to not know a theme is scummy but really, it's that Dhalsim is just an Indian dude. Calling him an alien? Thas racist.

Why would it be within scum's interest to pretend not to know this game's theme?

An excuse to be less helpful. Saying things to say things. I don't disbelieve Sloonei, though, hence my emphasis on bs over actually arguing his point was scummy.

You like to toss votes out early, generally speaking? Or are you extra suspicious of me? Or is this your day one style? Trying to get a feel for you.

How does not knowing the theme make them less helpful when all the roles are transparrent and explicitly outlined? What advantage does an SF fan have here?

I do like to toss votes out early, but I'm still concerned that you're saying things for the sake of saying things, to use your own language. Game mechanic speculation and whether ryu was superior to ken in mvc2 takes second place to scumhunting, ESPECIALLY on day one.

[Tangrowth]

JOH, I recommend shooting a PM to the Tech team (now Community Team), or specifically Spacedaisy, re: the linki not working on mobile. That way it doesn't fall through the cracks.

I'll try to remember to tell Daisy IRL too when I see her again in a bit here.

[Diiny]

Is a tie a coinflip or a no-lynch?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Like a more bulldoggy DDL, I see.

We'll get along fine, Diinybat.

(To clarify, Linki posts are shifted about an inch to the left on mobile, cutting them off)

[Long Con]

LC - why did you not have any thoughts re who is scum or any thoughts as to how to find scum

why did you post your useless thoughts

linki- I'm about to analyse it mp

I'll let you know who is scum when I have those thoughts. In fact, I have let you know. MP.

Why not try to actively find out though instead of talking about how it's weird sloonei think dhalsim is an alien

Because I'm lazy and crappy by your standards, I imagine! Can you get out of my face about it?