Pikachu Tribe - Day 9

[DharmaHelper]

Bump this noise I'm gonna [VOTE: Cbob] aubergine for now and fuck off into my troll cave.

[Epignosis]

I was assuming that there are 100 roles, each assigned a number, and that these were randomly distributed among the participants. I didn't put any more significance into it than that.

That a number was revealed by the hosts is perhaps meaningful in some way, but for now it carries little value (to me) beyond mere speculation.

[S~V~S]

Do whatever you want SVS I'm just telling you what you asked me to tell you. I hope the haikus are the source of the terseness and not me.

Haiku is super
Frustrating when ones trying
To make exact points

It can wait until
I am no longer Haikued~
And can make my point

[colonialbob]

I'm voting Dharma. "I don't want to lynch LC but I guess I have no choice"

[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine

[DharmaHelper]

I'm voting Dharma. "I don't want to lynch LC but I guess I have no choice"

[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine

When did I say that :/

[DharmaHelper]

Not a terribly productive day all things considered.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: dom] aubergine

[DharmaHelper]

[VOTE: dom] aubergine

But why tho

[S~V~S]

Are we voting for
Everyone but C Bob?
Cool kids voting trend?

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: dom] aubergine

But why tho

I just moved my vote.

I do think if anybody should be lynched outside of the obvious parameters, it should be Dom. LC may have been bad, but if there are two teams, then it's worth seeing how much of his conviction was truthful.

[colonialbob]

Are we voting for
Everyone but C Bob?
Cool kids voting trend?

The smart people are, anyway.

[speedchuck]

[VOTE: Dom] aubergine

Heck yeah

[Quin]

What exactly is the argument for there being two mafia teams?

[sprityo]

[VOTE: Cbob] aubergine since he's gonna die anyways

ive got catching up to do

[sprityo]

on different note: we know at least three roles are in play for people who havent died. well 2 at the least since cecil can only be confirmed that he is alive the night prior to dying.

Refrigerator
Cecil
Charlie Pace

i'd like to assume refrigerator cannot target themselves. but that's more an @Golden deal since it isnt specified in the role reveal on the front page.
but if so the targets have been SVS, Cbob, and Epi in that order.


We know that Speedchuck, DDL, and Nutella, are not any of the above three

Charlie Pace is obviously Cbob

Refrigerator must be one of these people, since i know for a fact i am not Refrigerator

Dharmahelper
dom
Long Con
Quin

(again assuming the underlined above)

Why did i spend that time making a hypothetical find for the haiku man? WELL: It could just as easily be used as a saving mechanism for mafia teammates or reduce a town player's influence. But on the flipside, confirming a town player closes more gaps the mafia can fit in as Epi- or was it DH?- put it earlier. (still the Cbob choice is questionable and likely the result of a random toss)
Which would mean, of these people; who couldve forgotten to choose someone Night 1 or alternatively, want to stifle the content of the players in yellow?

just wanted to bring this up too. Theres no reason for refrigerator to haiku SVS again because im pretty sure none of us are going to lynch SVS.

So it's inherently a negative role, and one of these three people are more than likely it, and henceforth more than likely bad

[Dom]

[VOTE: dom] aubergine

But why tho

I just moved my vote.

I do think if anybody should be lynched outside of the obvious parameters, it should be Dom. LC may have been bad, but if there are two teams, then it's worth seeing how much of his conviction was truthful.

You realize how misguided this is and how much we are ignoring the fact that that LC's team's best bet was to get me lynched, have me turn up bad by his power, and then vindicate LC, no?

Why not investigate that tie rather than test out a crackpot theory?

[Dom]

[VOTE: cbob] aubergine

[DharmaHelper]

Why not *really* fuck with people and Haiku Cbob? Targeting SVS a second time did ping me a little bit tbh, But I'm not gonna touch that with a ten foot pole right now.


I will say this: Can you extrapolate Sprit?

[DharmaHelper]

Lemme see if what you're thinking Sprit is similar in wavelength to what I'm thinking:

The use of the haiku role is inherently suspect given this is the second time SVS has been targeted and she's nowhere near the top of anyone's suspect list? Anything else?

[sprityo]

Why not *really* fuck with people and Haiku Cbob? Targeting SVS a second time did ping me a little bit tbh, But I'm not gonna touch that with a ten foot pole right now.


I will say this: Can you extrapolate Sprit?

You sound unusually bothered by my suggestion. Any particular reason?


So i think Haiku Fucker is anti town in that it just messes with people's posting process. it diminishes their ability to post long strains of thought, which for people like SVS isnt good for them. It's kind of a weird role in general in that you'll mess with a town player but they cant have votes count against them if they reach the sufficient number. But if you target someone else it might be considered saving someone who people dont agree is good. Overall, if it were me. i would want out of the role and get something more overall useful

linki: p much. yeah

[DharmaHelper]

Why not *really* fuck with people and Haiku Cbob? Targeting SVS a second time did ping me a little bit tbh, But I'm not gonna touch that with a ten foot pole right now.


I will say this: Can you extrapolate Sprit?

You sound unusually bothered by my suggestion. Any particular reason?


So i think Haiku Fucker is anti town in that it just messes with people's posting process. it diminishes their ability to post long strains of thought, which for people like SVS isnt good for them. It's kind of a weird role in general in that you'll mess with a town player but they cant have votes count against them if they reach the sufficient number. But if you target someone else it might be considered saving someone who people dont agree is good. Overall, if it were me. i would want out of the role and get something more overall useful

linki: p much. yeah

I'm not bothered, I just dont want to talk too much about SVS.

[sprityo]

????? okay.

[DharmaHelper]

????? okay.

I agree w/ you Haiku's use of their role sends up red flags.

[nutella]

no mattah wha i try to do, youre gonna die chahliee

[nutella]

[VOTE: cbob] aubergine

[Dom]

DH-- who's LC's teammate?

[DharmaHelper]

DH-- who's LC's teammate?

I dunno right now, I'll think on it. Chuck seemed pretty stoked to get another lynch train going.

[DharmaHelper]

The lynching of Long Con was barely over when the snow began to fall. Gently at first, but it built stronger, and it wasn't long before a full on blizzard was occurring. No-one could see anyone else, and it was all they could do to huddle in whatever sheltered spot they could find. No-one could explain such an event in Fiji... and they were in Fiji.... weren't they??

No-one has died. It is now day 5, which will last for 48 hours.

What the fuck am I going crazy or did this post used to contain the words "cold snap"

DDL's role number is 32.

Mister Freeze of the
Crazy Eights is role number
thirty two yup yup

Good catch SVS. DDL is Mr. Freeze and bad.

[DharmaHelper]

Or Indie or maybe Civ. Wouldn't really make sense I guess for a baddie to block their own kill.

[Dom]

Unless there's two mafia teams.



Can i just say-- I know it's weird since cbob is going to get lynched, but.... this is the least I've seen anyone try and investigate a lynch result. We got a baddie!


DDL - - respond to DH's/SVS's points.
DH - - why spend an entire day phase defending LC, trying to get me lynched? Did you know LC changed the way I'll flip? Would that have vindicated LC?
Epi - - why you phoning it in? There's no reason to lynch me beyond "hey he might be bad!", a self-serving and empty platitude true of every single player on this player list.
nutella - - why so quiet lately?
Quin - - What's up?
speedchuck - - You're eager to lynch me for literally any reason. Is it because you know I'll turn up bad despite being civilian?
sprityo - - What's up?
SVS - - Forget about cbob for a second: is DH bad?

[Quin]

what's up is that i wanna know why we're all looking for members of the second mafia team that i don't believe exists

[colonialbob]

Hey everybody let's stop voting for me out of resignation and try to be productive, yeah? Dom has the right of it.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I got the feeling that DDL opposed the LC wagon for the sake of opposing it. I might have to re-read, but I dislike it based on that impression.

In my defense I was 95% sure it was impossible to stop the wagon at that point.

And I still want to lynch DH.

Why fam I lynched Long Con

Lynching a baddie who slipped is not an accomplishment.

[juliets]

Please note Day 6 will end at 6:01 pm eastern standard time today, Monday March 12th. We will delete the poll at that time.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I mean, it's not like the town doesn't deserve the congratulations, but individual players don't deserve credit for jumping on it way after the case on him had gotten traction.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

His number came up.....
Accurate euphemism?
wait till he checks in

I don't know why my role number showed up and I can't comment on whether this speculation on what my role is is correct or not.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I'm voting Dharma. "I don't want to lynch LC but I guess I have no choice"

[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine

Me too.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine

[Dragon D. Luffy]

What exactly is the argument for there being two mafia teams?

Evil Evens and Obnoxious Odds

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Or just the fact the team is named, really.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: dom] aubergine

But why tho

I just moved my vote.

I do think if anybody should be lynched outside of the obvious parameters, it should be Dom. LC may have been bad, but if there are two teams, then it's worth seeing how much of his conviction was truthful.

You realize how misguided this is and how much we are ignoring the fact that that LC's team's best bet was to get me lynched, have me turn up bad by his power, and then vindicate LC, no?

Why not investigate that tie rather than test out a crackpot theory?

You have one life to live or two?

[Epignosis]

Why not *really* fuck with people and Haiku Cbob? Targeting SVS a second time did ping me a little bit tbh, But I'm not gonna touch that with a ten foot pole right now.


I will say this: Can you extrapolate Sprit?

You sound unusually bothered by my suggestion. Any particular reason?


So i think Haiku Fucker is anti town in that it just messes with people's posting process. it diminishes their ability to post long strains of thought, which for people like SVS isnt good for them. It's kind of a weird role in general in that you'll mess with a town player but they cant have votes count against them if they reach the sufficient number. But if you target someone else it might be considered saving someone who people dont agree is good. Overall, if it were me. i would want out of the role and get something more overall useful

linki: p much. yeah

You are assuming it was the haiku person's intention to target S~V~S a second time. That may not have been the case.

[Epignosis]

Unless there's two mafia teams.



Can i just say-- I know it's weird since cbob is going to get lynched, but.... this is the least I've seen anyone try and investigate a lynch result. We got a baddie!


DDL - - respond to DH's/SVS's points.
DH - - why spend an entire day phase defending LC, trying to get me lynched? Did you know LC changed the way I'll flip? Would that have vindicated LC?
Epi - - why you phoning it in? There's no reason to lynch me beyond "hey he might be bad!", a self-serving and empty platitude true of every single player on this player list.
nutella - - why so quiet lately?
Quin - - What's up?
speedchuck - - You're eager to lynch me for literally any reason. Is it because you know I'll turn up bad despite being civilian?
sprityo - - What's up?
SVS - - Forget about cbob for a second: is DH bad?

You're voting for the guy who is all but certain to be lynched today, and I'm phoning it in?

Okay.

[S~V~S]

what's up is that i wanna know why we're all looking for members of the second mafia team that i don't believe exists

Wrote a giant post
When I could talk days ago
About this very thing

You mainly seem to
Show up to tell people their
thoughts, points, are pointless

Spoiler: show

This is who is on the other side.

Boomslang
DrWilgy
insertnamehere
Jackofhearts2005
Kylemii
LoRab
Marmot
nijuukyugou
Scotty
sig
Sloonei
Spacedaisy

I think basing who would do what when the victim won't actually die is a bit more complex than normal meta.

Off the bat, with little thought, I could see LoRab, Marmot or Scotty killing someone quiet or non threatening, especially if she picks up steam as she goes along like Niju, out of the gate. This way when she starts to become more involved and astute, she will die when they need her to die. I see all of them as long term planners. Sloonei as well for that matter, I could see as someone who plans ahead. Possibly Daisy. Although Daisy has been busy IRL, so if bad, not sure how much of the process she would have been involved in.

I could see Boom killing her if she said something about him, or more likely if she just reads him well enough, out of proximity but ONLY if she were to perma-die. Not sure he would kill her for these reasons if she was only half dead because his reason to kill her would still exist.

I don't have a lot of meta on Jack.

INH, Wilgy, Kyle and sig all play more like I do, one day at a time, and kill more for mitigation of personal risk, or making a splash, as opposed to the long haul. That would be harder with people not dying. I try to be as unpredictable as possible, although the one or two times I NKed low posters still gets Epis eye whenever a low poster is NKed, lol. So I would think, as Niju is an unexpected target, any of these guys could have went with someone for random reasons. But I also don't think she is a splashy target, so

The other three kills are Scotty, Jack and INH.

If there are two Mafias, and they alternate, this same group/person is likely to have killed Jack, he was night 3.

My main recollection of Jack was the one game we played together where he was really bad. So I am not sure about what in his civ game would draw an NK. It is possible he could have also been low participation due to hosting his game? I don't know about everyone else, but I would probably not NK someone who was hosting a game I was playing. So who over there is and is not playing Fire Emblem? Or am I off base and it is more likely to be someone who IS playing that game?

If two teams then Scotty and INH were probably killed by the second team (or an SK). Scottys reveal might indicate a second team, that role "sounds" fairly bad, but I personally don't believe that whether or not a role "sounds" bad is 100% reliable in the context of this game.

These two, also, based on past gameplay, are more likely to have been killed for a reason than the other two, who I presume to have been quieter, although we can't know that for sure. Both can be very astute, INH unpredictaby so, and would be good people to set up for a future permakill when the time is right. Scotty was the first of them killed, and if he was not already lynched for that role reveal, and he were Permakilled tonight, I would most def posit two teams. If I were bad, I would very likely like to get rid of either of these guys early.

So doing this was helpful to me. I actually think there is very likely to be two different kills taking place, because I can see the same person killing Niju and Jack (especially if Jack is distracted by hosting), but not necessarily INH and Scotty. And I can see the reverse, the same person killing Scotty and INH, but not Niju and Jack.

Maybe a team and an SK? And the SK happens to be over there?

*Waits for someone to come in and tell me something that happened 3 days ago negates all of this, cries in advance preparation*

His number came up.....
Accurate euphemism?
wait till he checks in

I don't know why my role number showed up and I can't comment on whether this speculation on what my role is is correct or not.

I know you cannot
Two I won't vote for next poll
DDL; Sprityo

Why not *really* fuck with people and Haiku Cbob? Targeting SVS a second time did ping me a little bit tbh, But I'm not gonna touch that with a ten foot pole right now.


I will say this: Can you extrapolate Sprit?

You sound unusually bothered by my suggestion. Any particular reason?


So i think Haiku Fucker is anti town in that it just messes with people's posting process. it diminishes their ability to post long strains of thought, which for people like SVS isnt good for them. It's kind of a weird role in general in that you'll mess with a town player but they cant have votes count against them if they reach the sufficient number. But if you target someone else it might be considered saving someone who people dont agree is good. Overall, if it were me. i would want out of the role and get something more overall useful

linki: p much. yeah

I think maybe lulz?
Funny to make SVS
chatterbox be quiet?

I am asking hosts
If I need to do haiku
on c-bobs big day

????? okay.

After Survivor
DH & I tiptoe with
each other, wary

We have history
from long ago, far away
trying to play nice

[S~V~S]

Refrigerator must be one of these people, since i know for a fact i am not Refrigerator

Dharmahelper
dom
Long Con
Quin

My thoughts on above
It's nothing very concrete
Just my opinion

DH would very
much find it funny, But I
Don't think he did it

Same reason Negan
is not here, the history
I mentioned last post

Dom knows I struggled
With Mafia stress before
My break, doubt it's Dom

Maybe once, but twice?
He would do double Haikus
to some others first

I think it likely
Is Quin, he would get the lulz
Haikuing, haikued

I am getting bad
Feels from Quin, but still not sure
The fridge is baddie

[Dom]

what's up is that i wanna know why we're all looking for members of the second mafia team that i don't believe exists

And one we have no leads on if it does exist.

I got the feeling that DDL opposed the LC wagon for the sake of opposing it. I might have to re-read, but I dislike it based on that impression.

In my defense I was 95% sure it was impossible to stop the wagon at that point.

And I still want to lynch DH.

Why fam I lynched Long Con

Lynching a baddie who slipped is not an accomplishment.

Not incorrect.

Why do you think Dharmahelper wants all the credit for an LC lynch after rallying against it for a full day period?

[VOTE: dom] aubergine

But why tho

I just moved my vote.

I do think if anybody should be lynched outside of the obvious parameters, it should be Dom. LC may have been bad, but if there are two teams, then it's worth seeing how much of his conviction was truthful.

You realize how misguided this is and how much we are ignoring the fact that that LC's team's best bet was to get me lynched, have me turn up bad by his power, and then vindicate LC, no?

Why not investigate that tie rather than test out a crackpot theory?

You have one life to live or two?

Why does that matter?

Unless there's two mafia teams.



Can i just say-- I know it's weird since cbob is going to get lynched, but.... this is the least I've seen anyone try and investigate a lynch result. We got a baddie!


DDL - - respond to DH's/SVS's points.
DH - - why spend an entire day phase defending LC, trying to get me lynched? Did you know LC changed the way I'll flip? Would that have vindicated LC?
Epi - - why you phoning it in? There's no reason to lynch me beyond "hey he might be bad!", a self-serving and empty platitude true of every single player on this player list.
nutella - - why so quiet lately?
Quin - - What's up?
speedchuck - - You're eager to lynch me for literally any reason. Is it because you know I'll turn up bad despite being civilian?
sprityo - - What's up?
SVS - - Forget about cbob for a second: is DH bad?

You're voting for the guy who is all but certain to be lynched today, and I'm phoning it in?

Okay.

Ah. Your symbolic vote is more important than my content and discussion.

Bullshit.

You're playing lazy.

[Epignosis]

I am not "playing lazy."

[Epignosis]

Dom uses sarcasm and calls me lazy, but he doesn't call me bad. Why is that, Dom?

[S~V~S]

Unless there's two mafia teams.



Can i just say-- I know it's weird since cbob is going to get lynched, but.... this is the least I've seen anyone try and investigate a lynch result. We got a baddie!


DDL - - respond to DH's/SVS's points.
DH - - why spend an entire day phase defending LC, trying to get me lynched? Did you know LC changed the way I'll flip? Would that have vindicated LC?
Epi - - why you phoning it in? There's no reason to lynch me beyond "hey he might be bad!", a self-serving and empty platitude true of every single player on this player list.
nutella - - why so quiet lately?
Quin - - What's up?
speedchuck - - You're eager to lynch me for literally any reason. Is it because you know I'll turn up bad despite being civilian?
sprityo - - What's up?
SVS - - Forget about cbob for a second: is DH bad?

Current opinions
Daisy is civ; cigar, bad
confused is leaning

Re Dom, following
those I trust ; seems I always
Think Dom is good lol

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Why are people voting for Bob when we know he is a civ?

Even if there are reasons to think he will be lynched today regardlessly, why are we helping?

Isn't it better to make a statement and vote for the one you think is bad?