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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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What exactly is a soul read again, just gut?
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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It’s when Jay stares into your soul and sees you for who you really are. When he told me who I really was, I had to stop playing Mafia for five years, I was so shook.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:50 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:47 pm I think the green reads are generally agreeable or understandable, but can you explain Nova and Scotty at all?
I think nova's suspicion of me looks authentic after he has expanded upon it. Scotty was a soul read and I have no idea. I'll go look.
Scotty probably doesn't deserve a green. I at least agree with what he said about Choutas. His posts have a nice tone but are still vacant.
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ColinIsCool wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:52 pm It’s when Jay stares into your soul and sees you for who you really are. When he told me who I really was, I had to stop playing Mafia for five years, I was so shook.
Too bad gingers like me don't have souls. If all I had to do to earn his trust was to let him fish around in there a bit we'd be done already.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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If my posts are vacant you can always rent them.

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Why did you call Elo a mafia read, Jay?
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M Plus 7 wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:51 pm What exactly is a soul read again, just gut?
It's the least descriptive of all types of reads. Here, view the following depiction that I have created for fun and joy and insight:

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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:02 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:51 pm What exactly is a soul read again, just gut?
It's the least descriptive of all types of reads. Here, view the following depiction that I have created for fun and joy and insight:

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This is perfect, thanks!
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M Plus 7 wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:02 pm Why did you call Elo a mafia read, Jay?
Saying I wasn't genuine in being tired of the game because the game just started sounds like fake shit to me. She may have genuinely misunderstood me, but her interpretation given her understanding is hard to take seriously. Did I expect people to think I went from not tired to tired of this game before Day 1 is half over? Silly.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:04 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:02 pm Why did you call Elo a mafia read, Jay?
Saying I wasn't genuine in being tired of the game because the game just started sounds like fake shit to me. She may have genuinely misunderstood me, but her interpretation given her understanding is hard to take seriously. Did I expect people to think I went from not tired to tired of this game before Day 1 is half over? Silly.
Understandable, thanks. I'm not sure I agree, but I see that perspective.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:51 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:48 pm
Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:42 pm me and nova did a flipsiedoodle. tell me about that.
I buy his suspicion of me more than I buy your handling of his suspicion of me.
How have I handled his suspicion of you? And why do one of us have to be bad in this exchange?
Asked a few basic questions reminiscent of your initial criticism of him.

You don't.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:08 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.
Banners are cool, but a pain to scroll through so...
I've won a lot of games. I've hosted some games. The end.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Choutas wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:55 pm If my posts are vacant you can always rent them.

/drum roll
I meant Scotty's posts are vacant. Yours are too though.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Stop letting me lead the post count. Y'all step up. Let's go, get to it. I don't want to be this guy for once. Give me a break.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:08 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.
Why?
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:11 pm Stop letting me lead the post count. Y'all step up. Let's go, get to it. I don't want to be this guy for once. Give me a break.
I'm sort of trying, but I'm working my way there. Not sure I'll have the time or energy myself to be 100% supatown.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:07 pm
Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:51 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:48 pm
Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:42 pm me and nova did a flipsiedoodle. tell me about that.
I buy his suspicion of me more than I buy your handling of his suspicion of me.
How have I handled his suspicion of you? And why do one of us have to be bad in this exchange?
Asked a few basic questions reminiscent of your initial criticism of him.

You don't.
nova has only said what he likes to see in a check-in post. He's said nothing about what he learned from questioning you. It was a pointless exercise until we learn what he got from that interaction.

Before now, I was green and he was orange, if we're to equate your scoring earlier to something. Your explanation for that switcharoo is only justified by which of the two of us you like more. There's no hint of suspicion there. So I'll disagree with the latter.

You bad Jimbo?
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Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:14 pm nova has only said what he likes to see in a check-in post. He's said nothing about what he learned from questioning you. It was a pointless exercise until we learn what he got from that interaction.
Is this ever going to happen when you let the exercise die with "cool. cool, cool, cool"? That was closure.
Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:14 pm Before now, I was green and he was orange, if we're to equate your scoring earlier to something. Your explanation for that switcharoo is only justified by which of the two of us you like more.
What more justification should exist under the present conditions?
Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:14 pmThere's no hint of suspicion there. So I'll disagree with the latter.
I don't know what this means.
Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:14 pmYou bad Jimbo?
I'm poopertown jimmy
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:17 pm
Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:14 pm nova has only said what he likes to see in a check-in post. He's said nothing about what he learned from questioning you. It was a pointless exercise until we learn what he got from that interaction.
Is this ever going to happen when you let the exercise die with "cool. cool, cool, cool"? That was closure.
Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:14 pm Before now, I was green and he was orange, if we're to equate your scoring earlier to something. Your explanation for that switcharoo is only justified by which of the two of us you like more.
What more justification should exist under the present conditions?
Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:14 pmThere's no hint of suspicion there. So I'll disagree with the latter.
I don't know what this means.
Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:14 pmYou bad Jimbo?
I'm poopertown jimmy
1. Why is your check-in post a conversation I have to have with nova? You were also discussing it with him. Don't pass the buck.

2. By putting me as orange and nova as green, you infer that in your mind, one of the two of us is bad. Because you've said nothing else about me that would justify that placement. But you also deny that reasoning when you tell me that one of us doesn't have to be bad. Your read is fabricated.

3. It means, again, that my interaction with nova is the only presented reason for me being orange. Re-read 2.

4. I don't believe you.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Quin, do I think all of my oranges are bad and all of my greens are good?

Ridiculous garbage.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:22 pm Quin, do I think all of my oranges are bad and all of my greens are good?

Ridiculous garbage.
I asked you why I'm bad and you gave me a one or the other with nova. Doesn't apply to the rest.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:22 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine
You had to meander around shit creek to justify placing the third vote on me.

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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:24 pm
Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:22 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine
You had to meander around shit creek to justify placing the third vote on me.

Opportunist.
Your move.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Hello. I'm Charlie Blackmon, center fielder for the Colorado Rockies. I'm pinch hitting for Epignosis. So I hear there's an Easter egg hunt around here or something. I'm interested in hunting.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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M Plus 7 wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:12 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:08 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.
Why?
Eh, first of all, the game has changed. Off the top of my head, one example would be the introduction of POE reads. I felt like that was a poor way to find mafia. Second, life has been crazy, I've been dealing with migraines that totally take me away from living life for a week or more at a time. I'm working with my doctor and taking meds to try to fix it and my body feels all kinds of screwed up because of them. I hate meds. And, my doctor is worried and trying to get me into a neurologist. (Trying not to think/worry about that.) Then, on top of work and teaching, I am now co-coordinator in our homeschool group and will be working a lot on preparing for next year and then actually running our co-op next year. The mix between not liking the way things are played and real life kicking my butt makes me apathetic about mafia. I'd rather be playing go-fish with my kid :p or spending my time really getting to know people as friends rather than bullshitting in a game. Go ahead, tell me to man-up :D
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:28 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:12 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:08 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.
Why?
Eh, first of all, the game has changed. Off the top of my head, one example would be the introduction of POE reads. I felt like that was a poor way to find mafia. Second, life has been crazy, I've been dealing with migraines that totally take me away from living life for a week or more at a time. I'm working with my doctor and taking meds to try to fix it and my body feels all kinds of screwed up because of them. I hate meds. And, my doctor is worried and trying to get me into a neurologist. (Trying not to think/worry about that.) Then, on top of work and teaching, I am now co-coordinator in our homeschool group and will be working a lot on preparing for next year and then actually running our co-op next year. The mix between not liking the way things are played and real life kicking my butt makes me apathetic about mafia. I'd rather be playing go-fish with my kid :p or spending my time really getting to know people as friends rather than bullshitting in a game. Go ahead, tell me to man-up :D
That sounds bad, but not as bad as losing to the Giants 5-9 today. :doh:
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Aren't you posting in the wrong game?
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:34 pm Aren't you posting in the wrong game?
I'm Charlie Blackmon. I belong in every game.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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mmm hmm. I think you made a mistake and are acting like it was intentional.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:36 pm mmm hmm. I think you made a mistake and are acting like it was intentional.
Ma'am, guys like me don't make mistakes. We commit errors, and I only have 21 of those in eight seasons.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:36 pm mmm hmm. I think you made a mistake and are acting like it was intentional.
Your husband is gone. There is only Charlie now.
Lunalee wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 amQuin's ISO is full of posts that are actually trying to be helpful to the game. This doesn't look like town Quin.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Charlie Blackmon wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:28 pm Hello. I'm Charlie Blackmon, center fielder for the Colorado Rockies. I'm pinch hitting for Epignosis. So I hear there's an Easter egg hunt around here or something. I'm interested in hunting.
who do you think is an egg?
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:42 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:36 pm mmm hmm. I think you made a mistake and are acting like it was intentional.
Your husband is gone. There is only Charlie now.
he will have to shave then, and I will have to close my eyes during sex.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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I deadline the jay lunch
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dislike* lynch*
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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I do too. I won't be voting there. I need to check when the poll ends.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:45 pm
Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:42 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:36 pm mmm hmm. I think you made a mistake and are acting like it was intentional.
Your husband is gone. There is only Charlie now.
he will have to shave then, and I will have to close my eyes during sex.
Anything for you lady.

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amazing the difference.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:48 pm I do too. I won't be voting there. I need to check when the poll ends.
what made you change your mind?
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So, let me process this in a way I can understand.

If you're the manager, and you have to pull one guy of the lineup, do you take out Nolan Arenado, who could, yes, have a bad night, or do you take out a guy who hasn't even shown up to batting practice?

Because I'm not taking out Nolan over a guy who hasn't even shown up to batting practice. I'll wait until I see Nolan struggle and then make a decision then. But not before the game even starts. That's irresponsible.
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:28 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:12 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 8:08 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm The game just started.
I'm not talking about G-Man's Easter Mafia.

I am talking about Mafia.

All of it.
I see. Well, if I'm honest, I feel the same way.
Why?
Eh, first of all, the game has changed. Off the top of my head, one example would be the introduction of POE reads. I felt like that was a poor way to find mafia. Second, life has been crazy, I've been dealing with migraines that totally take me away from living life for a week or more at a time. I'm working with my doctor and taking meds to try to fix it and my body feels all kinds of screwed up because of them. I hate meds. And, my doctor is worried and trying to get me into a neurologist. (Trying not to think/worry about that.) Then, on top of work and teaching, I am now co-coordinator in our homeschool group and will be working a lot on preparing for next year and then actually running our co-op next year. The mix between not liking the way things are played and real life kicking my butt makes me apathetic about mafia. I'd rather be playing go-fish with my kid :p or spending my time really getting to know people as friends rather than bullshitting in a game. Go ahead, tell me to man-up :D
You got this. :slick:
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Quin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:42 pm
Elohcin wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 9:36 pm mmm hmm. I think you made a mistake and are acting like it was intentional.
Your husband is gone. There is only Charlie now.
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Charlie Blackmon wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 10:01 pm So, let me process this in a way I can understand.

If you're the manager, and you have to pull one guy of the lineup, do you take out Nolan Arenado, who could, yes, have a bad night, or do you take out a guy who hasn't even shown up to batting practice?

Because I'm not taking out Nolan over a guy who hasn't even shown up to batting practice. I'll wait until I see Nolan struggle and then make a decision then. But not before the game even starts. That's irresponsible.
All else being equal, sure, I agree with this. Hopefully we don't have any guys missing batting practice by the end of this phase though. Perhaps that's wishful thinking.
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Dizzyyyyy, where are you?!
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M Plus 7 wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 10:03 pm Dizzyyyyy, where are you?!
Dizzy! That reminds me of that relay race we had in elementary school where you had to put your forehead on a baseball bat, spin around so many times, and then run!
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Charlie Blackmon wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 10:05 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 10:03 pm Dizzyyyyy, where are you?!
Dizzy! That reminds me of that relay race we had in elementary school where you had to put your forehead on a baseball bat, spin around so many times, and then run!
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Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 1]

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Charlie Blackmon wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 10:01 pm So, let me process this in a way I can understand.

If you're the manager, and you have to pull one guy of the lineup, do you take out Nolan Arenado, who could, yes, have a bad night, or do you take out a guy who hasn't even shown up to batting practice?

Because I'm not taking out Nolan over a guy who hasn't even shown up to batting practice. I'll wait until I see Nolan struggle and then make a decision then. But not before the game even starts. That's irresponsible.
This more or less sums up my feelings too. Kinda weird to do a policy lynch on day 1, but there are benefits.
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i can't believe epignosis is using his mod privilege to cosplay as american professional baseball center fielder charles cobb blackmon from the colorado rockies team so he can teach me baseball trivia
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