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Courage 2024: Naugthy Mafia Edition (Yes)
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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everyone target me, please, even the mafia. I want to be targeted by as many things as possible for scientific purposes.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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target me, daddy
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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I have reread all of Day 2 in order to figure out who may have been redirecting away from the Long Con lynch. I urge you, if you are interested in catching scum, to read this list alongside the events in another window. I tried to be as thorough as possible but I may have missed some votes from dead civs or other things that didn't ping me so please poke at this and engage with it.

Sig votes for INH to start the day.

Colin votes for Nutella.

Luna cases Long Con successfully and places the initial vote (3-way tie at 1)

Speed writes reads of most players in the game, but not Long Con.

Sig places LC as “light scum” and invites him to say more.

Fractal places him in “not talking orange” on the readlists and votes Nutella. (2 nutella) Turnip Head expresses satisfaction at this suspicion

Speed votes for lapluie.

Nutella votes for lapluie (2-2 nutella lap)

Speed urges a “convincing” of LC and others

Sig votes for Long Con (2-2-2 Long Con tied)

Luna votes for nutella (3 nutella)

Vompatti votes for speed

Speed votes for Long Con (3-3 nutella and LC)

Fractal says Long Con lynch is “not terrible” but says he wants to lynch someone who has “done something”

Nutella votes LC (4 LC)

Kyle asks for an evaluation of LC’s recent civ meta

Speed prods for a possible suspicion of juliets, can’t make up mind over Nutella

Fractal focuses on Nutella again

Golden asks for thoughts on nut vs. LC

Golden answers Kyle’s previous question

Fractal asks people about lapluie

Nijuu gives LC a “mixed alignment” but votes Nutella (4-4)

Golden calls lap a mystery

Kyle says nutella looks worse but ultimately shrugs

Luna voices moving her vote back, moves (5-3 LC)

Fractal urges pressure on nutella in response to this

Kyle offers a sort-of-defense of LC

Golden votes for Nutella (5-4 LC)

Speed floats Vompatti + Scotty

Fractal urges nut, again, in response to speed

Speed endorses LC lynch

Scotty votes LC (6-4 LC)

Golden reads LC ISO and comes back befuddled

INH votes LC (7-4)

Colin says his vote is staying on Nutella, fine with LC lynch

Golden hems and haws a little but votes Long Con, leaving door open for someone else (8-3)

Kyle stays on nut, but is not opposed to LC

Biggest conclusions: I think speed looks fine in here. I don’t see him tying things with Long Con at 3-3 unless it was a deliberate bus strategy of the team’s, which may also condemn sig. I don’t like sig’s early stances toward LC, feels like distancing and even prodding for him to defend himself so as to make a “better judgment” (something I do as scum), and he also ties things at 2-2. Fractal has an obvious focus on Nutella which I can understand but he actively attempts to redirect the lynch away from LC and onto nutella at several times. Golden may be teammate compatible and attempted to earn a tad goodwill by bussing an inactive teammate. Nijuu looks like soft distancing again but trying to tip things toward Nutella. Kyle’s actions to me point toward being possibly teammate compatible but I still think he’s town so maybe this is an exercise in futility.

My 3 Long Con teammates based on this are most likely Fractal, Nijuu and Golden/Sig. I urge you to lynch one of them tomorrow.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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If there are any holes in that too like I said let me know.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:04 am If there are any holes in that too like I said let me know.
Cool part is, even if you're scum, it's MYLO or LYLO tomorrow. Meaning that you could be bussing every teammate you have in that group, and as long as you got town cred for it, everything still goes keikaku doori.

Which is a bad look for them. Regardless of your alignment, I believe this thing to be mostly honest.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:04 am Colin says his vote is staying on Nutella, fine with LC lynch
See this, here at the end. This does not look great.

It's textbook: "I don't want to switch, because that looks like I know LC is scum and I'm trying to get credit. But not being on the train looks bad too. I'll split the difference."
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Kay now I gotta go back and catch up.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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speedchuck wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:10 am
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:04 am Colin says his vote is staying on Nutella, fine with LC lynch
See this, here at the end. This does not look great.

It's textbook: "I don't want to switch, because that looks like I know LC is scum and I'm trying to get credit. But not being on the train looks bad too. I'll split the difference."
I know it makes me look bad. I included it so that people would see my transparency in compiling all that. People can use their judgment to see if it makes me look worst, but I’m telling you right now, lynch me and the town is not helped.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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imo collin's timeline makes himself and sig look the worst.
Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:30 am
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:57 am Golden vs. TH feels civ-civ to me. More like clashing playstyles or base logic than anything scummy.
More like I'm calling him on his meta.
explain pls
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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I want everyone in the game to POE me down to half of this list. Ignore everyone else's halves. Soon as you see this post, POE 5 players out of it.

And don't leave Kylemii in the list. That would just be stupid.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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I guess I'm living or dying on these five today. I'll explain why in a bit. Everybody POE like it's 2008.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Dom wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:17 am
Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:30 am
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:57 am Golden vs. TH feels civ-civ to me. More like clashing playstyles or base logic than anything scummy.
More like I'm calling him on his meta.
explain pls
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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speedchuck wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:20 am Coliniscool
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I want everyone in the game to POE me down to half of this list. Ignore everyone else's halves. Soon as you see this post, POE 5 players out of it.

And don't leave Kylemii in the list. That would just be stupid.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Dom wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:17 am imo collin's timeline makes himself and sig look the worst.
Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:30 am
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:57 am Golden vs. TH feels civ-civ to me. More like clashing playstyles or base logic than anything scummy.
More like I'm calling him on his meta.
explain pls
And what about Fractal?
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:30 am
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:57 am Golden vs. TH feels civ-civ to me. More like clashing playstyles or base logic than anything scummy.
More like I'm calling him on his meta.
How are you calling me on my meta?
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Colin good analysis generally but just noting you have your numbers go wrong somewhere along the way because I shifted it from 6-6 to 7-5. That may or may not shift your thinking if any of your analysis is based on how close things are. Is it possible some votes Nutella without saying so I’m the thread?

I’ll read back to test whether I think you’ve been thorough but reading through your post, fractal looks really bad.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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I don't doubt one of the players who've suddenly started to push my lynch is mafia, with only 1 to 2 mislynches left I'm an easy target.

Coliniscool
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My five. Still don't properly trust speed either though.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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speedchuck wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:20 am Coliniscool
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I want everyone in the game to POE me down to half of this list. Ignore everyone else's halves. Soon as you see this post, POE 5 players out of it.

And don't leave Kylemii in the list. That would just be stupid.
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That was remarkably easy. What’s more I think Ramses is in that list too.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:29 pm I don't doubt one of the players who've suddenly started to push my lynch is mafia, with only 1 to 2 mislynches left I'm an easy target.

Coliniscool
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My five. Still don't properly trust speed either though.
Switch me with Golden
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:46 pm
sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:29 pm I don't doubt one of the players who've suddenly started to push my lynch is mafia, with only 1 to 2 mislynches left I'm an easy target.

Coliniscool
Fractal
Marmot
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TH

My five. Still don't properly trust speed either though.
Switch me with Golden
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Also I just wanna point out INH was the tracker and gave one read upon his death, Colin. I want him gone tomorrow.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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One thing Colin’s post lacks is a lot of voting context. This isn’t necessarily unfair, because context is bullsuit that enables people to talk their way out of suspicious activity. I like pure vote analysis. But it does mean people should do their own reading.

Colin, you named the people whose behaviour looked worst, but other than speed who did you think looked actively good?
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:46 pm
sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:29 pm I don't doubt one of the players who've suddenly started to push my lynch is mafia, with only 1 to 2 mislynches left I'm an easy target.

Coliniscool
Fractal
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My five. Still don't properly trust speed either though.
Switch me with Golden
You seem to be bouncing between trying to getting myself and Golden lynched. I dislike that. :ponder:
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:55 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:46 pm
sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:29 pm I don't doubt one of the players who've suddenly started to push my lynch is mafia, with only 1 to 2 mislynches left I'm an easy target.

Coliniscool
Fractal
Marmot
Niju
TH

My five. Still don't properly trust speed either though.
Switch me with Golden
You seem to be bouncing between trying to getting myself and Golden lynched. I dislike that. :ponder:
I dislike it strongly. TH is my first choice for a lynch tomorrow. Colin, fractal and marmot are all options I’d love with.

You’re my tinfoil read because I’ve never felt the slightest suspicion of you this game and I find that suspicious lol.

I have a role in mind for dom.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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speedchuck wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:20 am Coliniscool
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I want everyone in the game to POE me down to half of this list. Ignore everyone else's halves. Soon as you see this post, POE 5 players out of it.

And don't leave Kylemii in the list. That would just be stupid.
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Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:30 am
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:57 am Golden vs. TH feels civ-civ to me. More like clashing playstyles or base logic than anything scummy.
More like I'm calling him on his meta.
explain pls
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:55 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:46 pm
sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:29 pm I don't doubt one of the players who've suddenly started to push my lynch is mafia, with only 1 to 2 mislynches left I'm an easy target.

Coliniscool
Fractal
Marmot
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TH

My five. Still don't properly trust speed either though.
Switch me with Golden
You seem to be bouncing between trying to getting myself and Golden lynched. I dislike that. :ponder:
I seem to be a lot of things that I'm not, that's what makes this game such a tricky rope to walk on :shrug2:
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Colin and Fractal are my first options.

Not sure what to think of TH. He's actively hunting for the first time in forever, throwing suspicion on people who haven't had much, and they're hating him for it.
Marmot is not on my radar for tomorrow, but perhaps for later days. The mafia team is not composed entirely of low posters, and I don't want to throw another YOLO kill to them.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Golden wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:18 pm Colin good analysis generally but just noting you have your numbers go wrong somewhere along the way because I shifted it from 6-6 to 7-5. That may or may not shift your thinking if any of your analysis is based on how close things are. Is it possible some votes Nutella without saying so I’m the thread?

I’ll read back to test whether I think you’ve been thorough but reading through your post, fractal looks really bad.
Yeah it’s definitely possible I messed up somewhere or votes were made without posts.
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Golden wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:55 pm One thing Colin’s post lacks is a lot of voting context. This isn’t necessarily unfair, because context is bullsuit that enables people to talk their way out of suspicious activity. I like pure vote analysis. But it does mean people should do their own reading.

Colin, you named the people whose behaviour looked worst, but other than speed who did you think looked actively good?
You won’t like this but I struggle to read TH bad in that context. Other than that most people are suspects or dead.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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My only problem with lynching TH is that I've got a role in mind for him. So i'd rather hold off there. I agree on Frac/Colin. though I'm thinking Frac has more Ramses compatibility so i'm leaning more towards Colin.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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My preference for a lynch as of now is Fractal, if that wasn’t clear. I don’t see how anyone town could read D2 and not come to the conclusion that something is fishy there.
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Sig is way more confident than I’ve ever seen him as civ. Usually he’s throwing around contradictory reads and wild theories but these past few posts especially are laser-focused.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Maybe other people don’t feel that way but I have a bad feeling about the guy.
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:28 pm Sig is way more confident than I’ve ever seen him as civ. Usually he’s throwing around contradictory reads and wild theories but these past few posts especially are laser-focused.
Thank you.....I think, :ponder:
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:11 pm
sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:55 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:46 pm
sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:29 pm I don't doubt one of the players who've suddenly started to push my lynch is mafia, with only 1 to 2 mislynches left I'm an easy target.

Coliniscool
Fractal
Marmot
Niju
TH

My five. Still don't properly trust speed either though.
Switch me with Golden
You seem to be bouncing between trying to getting myself and Golden lynched. I dislike that. :ponder:
I seem to be a lot of things that I'm not, that's what makes this game such a tricky rope to walk on :shrug2:
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:31 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:28 pm Sig is way more confident than I’ve ever seen him as civ. Usually he’s throwing around contradictory reads and wild theories but these past few posts especially are laser-focused.
Thank you.....I think, :ponder:
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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We really just need to lynch another mafia member, i'm not liking the current percent/ratio of civ to mafia. It's messing with my reads.

linki: Well then nevermind. :pout:
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Courage the Cowardly Dog Mafia

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Dom wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:32 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:11 pm
sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:55 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:46 pm
sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:29 pm I don't doubt one of the players who've suddenly started to push my lynch is mafia, with only 1 to 2 mislynches left I'm an easy target.

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My five. Still don't properly trust speed either though.
Switch me with Golden
You seem to be bouncing between trying to getting myself and Golden lynched. I dislike that. :ponder:
I seem to be a lot of things that I'm not, that's what makes this game such a tricky rope to walk on :shrug2:
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Me neither, I wonder if that's the point
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ColinIsCool wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:23 pm
Golden wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:55 pm One thing Colin’s post lacks is a lot of voting context. This isn’t necessarily unfair, because context is bullsuit that enables people to talk their way out of suspicious activity. I like pure vote analysis. But it does mean people should do their own reading.

Colin, you named the people whose behaviour looked worst, but other than speed who did you think looked actively good?
You won’t like this but I struggle to read TH bad in that context. Other than that most people are suspects or dead.
I don’t dislike that you have a different opinion. Yes, I think you and TH could be teammates, but when I stare into the orb of motivation, I see agenda to TH.
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sig wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:24 pm My only problem with lynching TH is that I've got a role in mind for him. So i'd rather hold off there. I agree on Frac/Colin. though I'm thinking Frac has more Ramses compatibility so i'm leaning more towards Colin.
I had the exact same thing but his exchange with me led me to think I was wrong. Go check it out (assuming we had the same role in mind)
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speedchuck wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:14 pm Colin and Fractal are my first options.

Not sure what to think of TH. He's actively hunting for the first time in forever, throwing suspicion on people who haven't had much, and they're hating him for it.
Marmot is not on my radar for tomorrow, but perhaps for later days. The mafia team is not composed entirely of low posters, and I don't want to throw another YOLO kill to them.
This is the first time I’ve tinfoiled speed.

In isolation the ‘I don’t want to lynch marmot’ I actually agree with. But on scotty lynch day I was trying to move the lynch to a new candidate and I offered marmot and inh. My reasons for marmot we’re stronger in my view. It was speed that chose inh over marmot. A speed/marmot pairing is possible.
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A very quiet marmot was camping near the coast of Canada, but is back in his little marmot cave and ready to lynch all y'all hooligans. :ohyeah:
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speedchuck wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:41 pm I think we have things narrowed down to the point that INH's alignment will tell us where to go next, either way.
Hey speedchuck, where do we go now that inh is town?
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Golden wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:01 pm but when I stare into the orb of motivation, I see agenda to TH.
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Turnip Head wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:53 pm
sig wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:01 pm @Turnip Head How sure are you that Frac is mafia?
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That's hardly better than the probability that Fractal is mafia.
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Kylemii wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:33 pm i am the world's biggest idiot
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