DFS Mafia [ENDGAME]

[dunya]

Y'all ready for JJJ to annoy you?

You prepped for this irritation?

Whether everyone could keep up or not, the pace of Days 0 and 1 was the biggest reason this game turned out the way it did.

I disagree, but then what do I know when I only got to read half the thread?

If 25% of your posts are spam, and you have 1,000 posts, that's 250 posts other civilians have to deal with that have nothing to do with anything.

Frankly, I am never going to be impressed just because somebody posts a lot. That's easy to fake. I can do it (and have done it) if I have the time.

Huge post counts on day 0 and day 1

First ever perfect civ win

I dunno man seems pretty indisputable

Onky because the mafia werent lurking on those days. If they were...

[Epignosis]

Y'all ready for JJJ to annoy you?

You prepped for this irritation?

Whether everyone could keep up or not, the pace of Days 0 and 1 was the biggest reason this game turned out the way it did.

I disagree, but then what do I know when I only got to read half the thread?

If 25% of your posts are spam, and you have 1,000 posts, that's 250 posts other civilians have to deal with that have nothing to do with anything.

Frankly, I am never going to be impressed just because somebody posts a lot. That's easy to fake. I can do it (and have done it) if I have the time.

Huge post counts on day 0 and day 1

First ever perfect civ win

I dunno man seems pretty indisputable

In which the mafia never submitted a kill.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Y'all ready for JJJ to annoy you?

You prepped for this irritation?

Whether everyone could keep up or not, the pace of Days 0 and 1 was the biggest reason this game turned out the way it did.

I disagree, but then what do I know when I only got to read half the thread?

If 25% of your posts are spam, and you have 1,000 posts, that's 250 posts other civilians have to deal with that have nothing to do with anything.

Frankly, I am never going to be impressed just because somebody posts a lot. That's easy to fake. I can do it (and have done it) if I have the time.

It doesn't have to be "impressive", but there is so much strategic value to it. MP blowing the thread up, even with a high spam content, drove up the posting rate of other players. In so doing, our capacity to judge everyone else improved accordingly, and we eliminated more than half of the players from the suspect pool before we even had to lynch the first person.

The civilians showed themselves brightly from the word GO, and that simply cannot happen in a quieter thread.

[MacDougall]

Unless anybody has any questions in the next two minutes, I'm going to bed. Tomorrow is a district kick up the bum and a teacher who never even got started pretty much got fired because a clothed pole dancing instructional video she posted privately got leaked.

She claims she does that to stay fit.

I don't know. Maybe they should offer that shit in PE considering the weight issues we have.

That's not cool at all. I'll hire her as a pole dancer if she wants.

What would you rather have? A fit pole dancer with two degrees and a phlebotomy certification or a fat ass smoker who can't even get into a Gentleman's Club?

Fit pole dancer with two degrees though not sure of the upside of her being able to draw blood from me.

[MacDougall]

sprityo who would you have killed on night 1?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

In which the mafia never submitted a kill.

We had all three of them in a narrow process of elimination pool before any night phase took place. It didn't matter.

[novaselinenever]

I'm really hoping I tanked at least one lineup

I had you as second MVP

[MacDougall]

In which the mafia never submitted a kill.

We had all three of them in a narrow process of elimination pool before any night phase took place. It didn't matter.

You mean this pool?

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 83#p474183

[dunya]

In which the mafia never submitted a kill.

We had all three of them in a narrow process of elimination pool before any night phase took place. It didn't matter.

Kinda does. Kills change the pace. If the cop had been killed, TH would never have been cleared. If Jay would have been killed, analysis posts and thread momentum may have died. People change their minds pretty quickly and tinfoil exists. It takes a couple night kills and a couple of mislynches in a heist to bring the game to lylo.

[MacDougall]

In which the mafia never submitted a kill.

We had all three of them in a narrow process of elimination pool before any night phase took place. It didn't matter.

Kinda does. Kills change the pace. If the cop had been killed, TH would never have been cleared. If Jay would have been killed, analysis posts and thread momentum may have died. People change their minds pretty quickly and tinfoil exists. It takes a couple night kills and a couple of mislynches in a heist to bring the game to lylo.

I didn't really get the impression they believed me about Turnip Head...

[dunya]

I'm really hoping I tanked at least one lineup

I had you as second MVP

Me too. I find TH has amazing intuition even if he doesn't play the game like more serious posters anymore.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

In which the mafia never submitted a kill.

We had all three of them in a narrow process of elimination pool before any night phase took place. It didn't matter.

Kinda does. Kills change the pace. If the cop had been killed, TH would never have been cleared. If Jay would have been killed, analysis posts and thread momentum may have died. People change their minds pretty quickly and tinfoil exists. It takes a couple night kills and a couple of mislynches in a heist to bring the game to lylo.

I thought Mac was lying about being the cop the whole game TBH.

My analyses were nice to instill confidence, but the prevailing wisdom was still never in favor of any of the mafia members. The game may drag on longer with some kills, but the civilians had this thing.

[Epignosis]

Y'all ready for JJJ to annoy you?

You prepped for this irritation?

Whether everyone could keep up or not, the pace of Days 0 and 1 was the biggest reason this game turned out the way it did.

I disagree, but then what do I know when I only got to read half the thread?

If 25% of your posts are spam, and you have 1,000 posts, that's 250 posts other civilians have to deal with that have nothing to do with anything.

Frankly, I am never going to be impressed just because somebody posts a lot. That's easy to fake. I can do it (and have done it) if I have the time.

It doesn't have to be "impressive", but there is so much strategic value to it. MP blowing the thread up, even with a high spam content, drove up the posting rate of other players. In so doing, our capacity to judge everyone else improved accordingly, and we eliminated more than half of the players from the suspect pool before we even had to lynch the first person.

The civilians showed themselves brightly from the word GO, and that simply cannot happen in a quieter thread.

All that tells me is that the civilians had more time than I did in this particular case.

I read every post when I play, whether there are 100 or 1000 to go, because that's the only way I can get a full picture on people. I sympathize with DH, who is a good player, but he could never keep up, could he? You almost lynched him for it. I'm the host, and I couldn't keep up. When you get to a series of posts like these:

676 POSTS MOTHERFUCKERS

I'm really fucking myself over for when I do actually roll scum again, but at least the rand gods keep shining on me for now.

What does that do?

There's being active, and then there's being happy that your post count is higher than everybody else's.

I don't subscribe to the latter being a good strategy long term.

What I mean is this (and Alex, I hope you don't take offense- I'm talking postgame analysis here, so please chime in, because I'd love to hear where you stand here):

If I were a player in this game, I would get lynched, simply because I did not have the time or ability to read anything other people wrote because a handful of people were dominating the thread. As the host, I got tired, I got bored, and I got disengaged. To me, there's an obligation to keep things active as a civilian player, sure...but then there's an obligation to keep things manageable for fellow civilians, no?

Posting the equivalent of, "I need to remind myself to read Epignosis" isn't accomplishing anything. Can't civilian posters be economical with their posts and still accomplish their work? If the answer is no, and the only way to win is to drown out everybody else, then how effective are they really?

Something to think about, I believe.

[Tsaiah]

Whoops sorry to people who invested in me (i -was- cheap! xD), i didn't vote d2 bc it wasn't necessary by the time i got off work (i wasn 't thinking about the possibl e fantasy scoring thingies ahh)

[Tsaiah]

Mac's three post reiterarion of cop claiming cracked me the hell up xD

I'm gonna check dh tonight


something something with that cop check that i have


Cop

xDD

I actually kept thinking just the word "cop" and laughing

Was afraid to laugh about it in rthe thread lest i mess something up if it was real or nk bait hue

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Was afraid to laugh about it in rthe thread lest i mess something up if it was real or nk bait hue

Yeah I thought it was total crap meant to draw a kill, and I even tried to encourage that by talking with him about a possible godfather.

[Quin]

Unless anybody has any questions in the next two minutes, I'm going to bed. Tomorrow is a district kick up the bum and a teacher who never even got started pretty much got fired because a clothed pole dancing instructional video she posted privately got leaked.

She claims she does that to stay fit.

I don't know. Maybe they should offer that shit in PE considering the weight issues we have.

That's not cool at all. I'll hire her as a pole dancer if she wants.

What would you rather have? A fit pole dancer with two degrees and a phlebotomy certification or a fat ass smoker who can't even get into a Gentleman's Club?

I love me a woman with some thighs.

[Quin]

[Tsaiah]

This game proves that every day 0 should be 50 pages.

Were it only.

Speaking as both Not town aligned and a low poster.

This was hell and I hated every second of the 96 hours day one

I empathise with this so much tho

There's another site i've played on twice with great eagerness only to roll mafia BOTH TIMES

I was a lot more than low-key worr ied i'd rand scum here and d1 would invatably go something like

Aby: i am a concern with a tsaiah

MP: me too! you think maybe she's trying to pocket us both?

Aby: yeah probably

Both: ...bc she'd do exactly that (in chorus)

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]Tsaiah[/mention]
[mention]abyssum[/mention]
[mention]Infected_alien8_[/mention]
[mention]RobotNerd277[/mention]

If y'all like, you should feel free to hang out with the gang in the Discord server.

[Russtifinko]

Alright everyone. I hope we realize what is at stake here.

This has become an even more historic achievement than I was talking about in the wake of the Robot lynch. I was referring to a lesser sort of perfection, we'll call it a "no hitter", in which the civilians never lynch wrongly (but still lose at least someone to a night kill). That has never occurred on The Syndicate in a non-burglary.

But now we have an opportunity to do something truly incredible, something that I suspect hasn't happened before on the vast majority of Mafia-dedicated websites out there.

Civilian win in a full-length game without losing a player.

That's a true perfect game. I have wondered about this before, imagined what it'd be like and how difficult it would be. I never expected to actually be in this position though, more than likely one proper lynch away from achieving the holy grail of civilian Mafia. If we make this happen, nobody will ever be able to take it away. Ever. It will be the greatest glory I have ever been a part of in this damned game we all like to play.

So let's treat this Day 3 with the proper reverence, and more importantly the proper urgency. It's LyLo.

I hate to burst your bubble, JJJ, but it actually has happened once before. Minimalist Mafia. A heist, I believe(?). Monthlong cycles. We lynched a no-poster D1 and they turned out to be the sole baddie. I had forgotten about it until now.

LINKI

Okay.

@sprityo, apart from my previous post there, I really do appreciate that. This would have been a lot of work and heartache for all of us, and I respect what you've done. I hope everyone does. Believe it or not, I have conceded as a mafioso before myself. Sometimes it's just proper.

I'm actually kinda bummed [mention]sprityo[/mention] threw in the towel there! I mean I get it; I was thinking through if I had been a baddie this game and it would've been absolutely fucking terrible. That said, it would've been interesting to see if we got you today or mislynched DH first. You held out really well given the circumstances.

[Quin]

Alright everyone. I hope we realize what is at stake here.

This has become an even more historic achievement than I was talking about in the wake of the Robot lynch. I was referring to a lesser sort of perfection, we'll call it a "no hitter", in which the civilians never lynch wrongly (but still lose at least someone to a night kill). That has never occurred on The Syndicate in a non-burglary.

But now we have an opportunity to do something truly incredible, something that I suspect hasn't happened before on the vast majority of Mafia-dedicated websites out there.

Civilian win in a full-length game without losing a player.

That's a true perfect game. I have wondered about this before, imagined what it'd be like and how difficult it would be. I never expected to actually be in this position though, more than likely one proper lynch away from achieving the holy grail of civilian Mafia. If we make this happen, nobody will ever be able to take it away. Ever. It will be the greatest glory I have ever been a part of in this damned game we all like to play.

So let's treat this Day 3 with the proper reverence, and more importantly the proper urgency. It's LyLo.

I hate to burst your bubble, JJJ, but it actually has happened once before. Minimalist Mafia. A heist, I believe(?). Monthlong cycles. We lynched a no-poster D1 and they turned out to be the sole baddie. I had forgotten about it until now.

LINKI

Okay.

@sprityo, apart from my previous post there, I really do appreciate that. This would have been a lot of work and heartache for all of us, and I respect what you've done. I hope everyone does. Believe it or not, I have conceded as a mafioso before myself. Sometimes it's just proper.

I'm actually kinda bummed @sprityo threw in the towel there! I mean I get it; I was thinking through if I had been a baddie this game and it would've been absolutely fucking terrible. That said, it would've been interesting to see if we got you today or mislynched DH first. You held out really well given the circumstances.

way to rain on everyone's parade

[Russtifinko]

Players did accrue 0.02 points per post.

Too bad nobody drafted MP.

Seriously? Alright then.

I was joking about the post count.

Nobody took you or Marmot because you were too expensive and the general fear was that you would be killed early.

No killed took place period. None were ever sent in.

Russ didn't protect anyone N1, but he protected JJJ N2.

Mac checked TH but nobody N2.

More missing PMs than I expected here.

Oh shit, you're right. I tried to protect MP N1, but I guess my PM didn't go through.

Epi, not sure if it matters for scoring, but you didn't put my save of JJJ in my point totals. MVP baybeeeee!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Minimalism didn’t have a mafia team. It was everyone vs. one. I’m not counting it.

[Russtifinko]

Russ play more. Your presence calms my spirit.

Thanks, dude! I had a lot of fun and I missed all you guys

This game was a great reminder about how awesome this community is and also about what a time suck Mafia is. I’ll defini be back for the occasional future game, but probably only occasionally. And I do wanna host a LoTR mafia series!

[Russtifinko]

And Mac, I was very conflicted on whether your cop claim was real haha. You were a blast to play with, and I was stoked I could read you properly and help get MP to back off you! #TeamMac forever

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Dragon D. Luffy made me his captain. He's not allowed to disparage my skills any more because he is on record that he thinks I am better than Jay and MP.

You were a cop and cost about 75% of what those folks did.

Though yeah I did take your skills into consideration.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I see what you all really think of me now.

Afaik you would be killed n1 with all that post count. Not worth the cost and the risk.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Still surreal that this is the first perfect game on the Syndicate. Probably the only perfect game I've ever seen yet alone been a player in. Yikes.

We had a perfect burglary a while back.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Man everybody already said all the things I just said.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Also whoever mocked Marmot thats not cool. He is a good civ and some of his posts here were good, it's just that he loves to fluff. But I don't want to play in a place that doesn't tolerate fluff.

[sprityo]

sprityo who would you have killed on night 1?

Jay or you

[speedchuck]

I'm going to crylaugh if speedchuck is the winning contestant and stays ahead of Kyle in the 2018 charts.

I picked the mafia team, tho

[ColinIsCool]

Well, shucks. And my ex says I’m a loser!

[Lunalee]

I'm going to crylaugh if speedchuck is the winning contestant and stays ahead of Kyle in the 2018 charts.

I picked the mafia team, tho

Did I atleast give you some points?

[dunya]

Well, shucks. And my ex says I’m a loser!

You were my mvp1

[ColinIsCool]

Well, shucks. And my ex says I’m a loser!

You were my mvp1

Bad pick, but it panned out.

[Turnip Head]

I'm really hoping I tanked at least one lineup

I had you as second MVP

Lol sorry dude. This game was much too busy for me to keep up

[dunya]

Well, shucks. And my ex says I’m a loser!

You were my mvp1

Bad pick, but it panned out.

I have every confidence in you in every game tbh

[ColinIsCool]

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Well, shucks. And my ex says I’m a loser!

You were my mvp1
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Bad pick, but it panned out.
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I have every confidence in you in every game tbh
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Well, shucks again.

Thanks Epi for hosting! All the new folk, I hope you stick around!

[ColinIsCool]

Whoops. Must be the whiskey.

[Tangrowth]

I really cannot emphasize enough how incredible this game was — from the efforts put in by the town, the fight from Alien and all of the scum really, the general atmosphere of working together, our amazing new players and just the awesome player list otherwise, etc.

I appreciate the comments about blowing up the thread and all of that. But as you all know well by now I land on Jay’s side of the argument here and have my entire career. The more data there is for the town to analyze, the more the scum have to fake, all else being equal of course, the better chance the town have to win. It’s a complicated phenomenon though and it’s why aggressive reassessment is always necessary. I feel like this is one of the best town performances I ever have been a part of, and it would not have been that way if not for the sheer volume of effort from so many members of the town.

I don’t really care if what I did with Mac was seen as careless or a mistake, or if people thought I spammed too much.

I played the game the way I enjoy playing the game as well trying to maximize my team’s win condition at any time. I made every effort I could to sort as many players as possible.

I don’t need validation and while I appreciate the advice, I think I can play this game rather well and I will always play it my way.

I admittedly won’t have the time to blow up threads like this so part of me wanted to really enjoy it for the last time, and I couldn’t contain my excitement to be playing with all of you especially [mention]Tsaiah[/mention], [mention]abyssum[/mention], [mention]Infected_alien8_[/mention], [mention]RobotNerd277[/mention], and [mention]DharmaHelper[/mention] and [mention]Russtifinko[/mention]. This game was an anomaly, but it was a very fun one.

I do apologize if the way I play the game makes it less fun for anyone else but I never forced anyone to read everything or do anything. Regardless of what any of you all think of my play this game I am just not going to play the game differently just because some people complain about my shitposts or my post count. I played well, I enjoyed myself, I stayed true to myself, and that’s all that matters.

I wouldn’t ask that of anyone else. I wouldn’t ask DH to play differently. I love that we all have our own approaches to enjoying and solving the game. It adds to the already amazing culture here of friendship by making the game even more interesting.

Despite the intensity I really hope you all at least enjoyed it a bit and I’m sorry if you didn’t. We all have games from time to time that are unfortunately more frustrating than they should be. I didn’t mean to play any part in that personally.

I very much look forward to playing with all of you again.

[DharmaHelper]

Still surreal that this is the first perfect game on the Syndicate. Probably the only perfect game I've ever seen yet alone been a player in. Yikes.

We had a perfect burglary a while back.

Oh whoopdy doo you guys lynched llama I do that every night on my dreamboard.

[DharmaHelper]

I can think of like two games I want to play (Hogwarrts and A World Asunder or w/e)

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Still surreal that this is the first perfect game on the Syndicate. Probably the only perfect game I've ever seen yet alone been a player in. Yikes.

We had a perfect burglary a while back.

Oh whoopdy doo you guys lynched llama I do that every night on my dreamboard.

Nah it was MP and Speedchuck.

[DharmaHelper]

I do apologize if the way I play the game makes it less fun for anyone else but I never forced anyone to read everything or do anything. Regardless of what any of you all think of my play this game I am just not going to play the game differently just because some people complain about my shitposts or my post count. I played well, I enjoyed myself, I stayed true to myself, and that’s all that matters.

I wouldn’t ask that of anyone else. I wouldn’t ask DH to play differently. I love that we all have our own approaches to enjoying and solving the game. It adds to the already amazing culture here of friendship by making the game even more interesting.

Despite the intensity I really hope you all at least enjoyed it a bit and I’m sorry if you didn’t. We all have games from time to time that are unfortunately more frustrating than they should be. I didn’t mean to play any part in that personally.

I very much look forward to playing with all of you again.

I don't hold it against you or anybody who posted a bunch. I just personally couldn't keep up and dig in on a thread that, to me, was 99% redundant. Which is fine because I found a way to enjoy the game anyway, but I agree with Epi that when you have like 3 players posting their nuts off and everybody else has to swim upstream to keep up it does more harm than good.

This game is an anomaly to that because

A) You were right this time. It is possible to be both a massive shitposting goblin and wrong about who the mafia are.

B) The Night kill situation favored the cleared townies because they didn't get dunked on.

C) 3 mafia isn't as intimidating as it sounds. if we had 4-5 mafia and we had to slog through 30 pages per 24 hour period, it would have been a much different result I think.

[DharmaHelper]

Still surreal that this is the first perfect game on the Syndicate. Probably the only perfect game I've ever seen yet alone been a player in. Yikes.

We had a perfect burglary a while back.

Oh whoopdy doo you guys lynched llama I do that every night on my dreamboard.

Nah it was MP and Speedchuck.

Well then! Minimalism mafia is the second best perfect game.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

I like that game specifically because I was the one who roleblocked Speedchuck N1 like a boss.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The perfect game burglary was colonialbob and speedchuck as mafia.

7 total players though.

[DharmaHelper]

Top 10 Reasons DFS Mafia is the True Perfect Game:

1) I played this game
2-7) Me
8. More players
9. More posts
10. Me again.