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dunya wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:35 pm I have never tried orange fanta with dry red wine. Fascinating :p

also I LOVE your Halloween makeup! omg! did you do it?
I did it with white eyeshadow, a red make-up crayon I borrowed and later kept (she said I could keep it), and then I think it was black eyeshadow for the rest of it.
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Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:43 pmUltimate Frisbee.
[mention]speedchuck[/mention] [mention]Lunalee[/mention], with Owner we're only three short of a full starting squad.
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Lizabeth wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:53 pm Hi Owner. What is your favourite cat gif? :daisy:
This one I sent to my bf this week.

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So it is potentially a new favorite one.

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I still enjoy this one.

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This one is another good one.

It's hard to pick just one. I'm probably forgetting several really great and epic ones.

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Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:56 pm This one I sent to my bf this week.

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which one is he? :biggrin:
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dunya wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:26 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:56 pm This one I sent to my bf this week.

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which one is he? :biggrin:
I would say the sleeping one. :p
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Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:56 pm
Lizabeth wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:53 pm Hi Owner. What is your favourite cat gif? :daisy:
This one I sent to my bf this week.

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So it is potentially a new favorite one.

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I still enjoy this one.

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This one is another good one.

It's hard to pick just one. I'm probably forgetting several really great and epic ones.

YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE!!!! :jedi:

Ok fine..you can have them all <3
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:47 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:43 pmUltimate Frisbee.
@speedchuck @Lunalee, with Owner we're only three short of a full starting squad.
Sweet! It is the best sport after all. And thanks for the mention, I needed to see the adorable cat gifs in this thread.
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Awesome, thanks for the answers! Cool Joker makeup for sure, and mashed potatoes are pretty amazing right?

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How about some more questions? :D

- Favorite movie(s)?
- Favorite book(s)?
- Do you have any pets? If not, what would you like to have if anything?
- Summer or winter weather?
- Favorite color? Least favorite color?
- What is your favorite activity and/or location if you want to relax?
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Thanks for playing a round of interrogation room [mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention], it was great learning more about you and I hope we get to play a game with you soon! <3 feel free to respond to any open questions in the meantime (:


Fractal Interrogation



For the next interrogation, let's welcome new member and fellow Swede, Fractal to the hot seat! Recruited to us through [mention]M Plus 7[/mention]'s champs game which Fractal was a part of, some of us have already played with Fractal in Courage the Cowardly Dog or the current hydra game (no talking about the latter till it's over). Just recently, he finished up Courage, a side mission hosted by Rico, and his first scum game on here which was really entertaining and interesting to see. Apart from playing mafia, we don't know much about Fractal so I can't wait to dig deep!

[mention]Fractal[/mention], to get things started: are you an only child or do you have siblings?

have you traveled much? where to?

what's your favorite swedish season? :p

what are 5 of your favorite foods?

have you ever eaten surströmming before? (for the people who don't know what this is, youtube will be interesting ;) )

what's your fav genre of music? do you go to any concerts?

are you blonde and blue eyed?


alright everyone, let's make Fractal feel the Syndicate love. get those questions rolling in! :biggrin:
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Yay, Fractal!

I’m so glad you decided to check us out!

I’ll come up with some more questions for you too.
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Thanks to dunya for arranging this, hey all ^^
Recruited to us through M Plus 7's champs game which Fractal was a part of
I only spectated, but otherwise correct, his level of investment was pretty inspiring
are you an only child or do you have siblings?
2 siblings, both younger
have you traveled much? where to?
Depends on who you compare to i guess. My favorite trip was to the US, where my family together with my cousins family hired a place in florida for 2 weeks. We went to universal's big amusement park and other fun trips. Also enjoyed a shorter skiing trip in sweden where we skiied on the days and played boardgames on the evenings.
Also been on a couple of sun/bath vacations but they usually leave me bored pretty quick. I like to know i'll have activities that i enjoy if im going somewhere, otherwise i'll just stay home and save the money :D
what's your favorite swedish season? :p
Was summer while i went to school simply because of the 9-10 week vacation, but simply weatherwise i enjoy spring/autumn the most.
what are 5 of your favorite foods?
-Thai inspired food (both fast food and home cooked)
-Flygande Jakob (dont think it has an english name)
-spaghetti carbonara
-chili shrimps
-most spicy stews with chicken/rice
have you ever eaten surströmming before?
No
what's your fav genre of music? do you go to any concerts?
Not the biggest music person actually. I occasionally listen to music from games i think have amazing music or music parodies i find funny. I got a spotify list with normal songs from some different genres but it isn't opened very often.
are you blonde and blue eyed?
Yes, and green-blue-yellow ish. Thought i was blue-eyed until like a year ago when i looked closer
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Yeah, Fractal and tsaiah both spectated my game and came over! Totally awesome. As of now RobotNerd is the only other player from Game 9 to sign up over here. That’s just so far anyway. :mafia:
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- If you could travel anywhere right now with no concern for time or money, where would it be?

- Favorite book? TV show? Movie?

- Do you prefer to be town or mafia?

- Most treasured moment as a member of the town?

- Most treasured moment as a member of the mafia?
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- If you could travel anywhere right now with no concern for time or money, where would it be?

I would very much like to try joining some poker tournaments in Las Vegas to see how I would do and it sounds like a cool experience.

- Favorite book? TV show? Movie?

Book: Harry potter and the methods of rationality.
Tv show: if anime is included its a tie between Hunter x Hunter (2011) and Deathnote. If not then House and the simpsons are both pretty good.
Movie: The dark knight (heath ledger's Joker is legendary)

- Do you prefer to be town or mafia?

Town.

- Most treasured moment as a member of the town?

Town games are less rememberable to me for some reason, even if i enjoy them in the moment more. One that comes to mind is when i was vigilante and the town just would never agree with the lynches i wanted during the days, so i just shot them in the night. I ended up shooting every single one of the 4 mafias. One of my proudest moments if nothing else.

- Most treasured moment as a member of the mafia?

During a game of IRL mafia i got the feelkng the person sitting on the other side of the ring from me was preparing to say something important. I just went with my hunch and instantly claimed cop with a red-check on the person who wanted the word in 1 breath. Turned out i was right and that person responded "no IM the cop", but it was too late and we ended up lynching the cop, who tried his damndest to convince people but the town just couldnt believe that I was mafia and randomly decided to fake claim a redcheck on the actual cop. Best feeling ever.
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Fractal!

what's the worst nightmare you've ever had if you can remember it?

what's your horoscope?

are you superstitious?

do you have any pets?

how are you enjoying this drought?
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what's the worst nightmare you've ever had if you can remember it?
I cant remember specifics, but i remember having had one where i was utterly convinced i was gonna die, and felt very suprised/relieved when i woke up. Dont generally remember my dreams though.
what's your horoscope?
Aries (had to google to recall)
are you superstitious?
Nope
do you have any pets?
1 cat
how are you enjoying this drought?
It's a bit too hot, was especially annoying when in a car yesterday. But on the whole i'm personally not too affected
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tell us more about the cat! name / age / pics!

are you studying at the moment or working or both? what do you do?

how did you start playing mafia?

how many languages do you speak?

do you like fishing? :D
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tell us more about the cat! name / age / pics!
Foxy / 7 / [COMING SOON]
are you studying at the moment or working or both? what do you do?
Not studying atm, but going to study half-time starting september (at least 1 course, I'll see what I decide to do after that).
Right now I only got 2 minor assignments:
-Part-time I'm a contact-person for a person with special needs that i meet a couple of times a month to do activities with
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-Teaching table tennis to small kids that's starting out once a week during the summer.
how did you start playing mafia?
My older cousin made me try mafia at a family gathering with small cousins etc, and I liked the concept of it (mainly that it's rules are so simple, but there's no strict right way to play, and you can be creative and make unconvensional strategies/tactics work) so she recommended me to check out the mafia room at a convention i was going to anyway. Once i found the room I was basically stuck there for the rest of the convention at all times they were playing. This was summer 2015, then I read some articles online and kept going to more conventions mainly for mafia. Then eventually I tried some online mafia aswell, on EpicMafia aswell as standard forum mafia.
how many languages do you speak?
2, English/Swedish. Could speak a very small amount of spanish while I had it in school years ago, but not anymore.
do you like fishing? :D
I don't think i'd hate it, espcially if i had a book to read at the same time, but I've not really done it since i was 8 or 9. I do remember being proud catching a really small fish that I insisted we cooked and it was mostly bone, but it still tasted like victory.
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oh, wrong account, whatever.

Bonus facts about Foxy (Some part of the family says she's spelled "Foxie", but she's not):

-Likes cucumber
-Often goes outside for 1-3 minutes and then comes inside acting like she's dying of hunger (preferably to a person that doesn't know she hasn't been out for long)
-When someone is scratching her behind her ears, and she feels the person isn't giving it their all, for example only using 1 hand, she'll gently bite the person in the chin until they give her all the attention/respect she feels she deserves.
-As soon as she smells the faintest trace of shrimps, she'll sit and look up with as big cute eyes as she can muster, for up to 10 minutes.
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Death Note and The Simpsons are two of my all-time favorites as well. :D

Thanks for answering questions!

I'll see what else I can think of myself.
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The Simpsons should do a Treehouse of Horror spoof on Death Note. :srsnod:
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- Do you enjoy tabletop and other board/strategy/card games other than mafia? If so, what are some of your favorites?

- Table tennis! That's cool. Are you a table tennis pro then? Do you play standard tennis as well?

- Do you enjoy any other sports? If so, what is (are) your favorite(s) to spectate and/or play?
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:46 pm The Simpsons should do a Treehouse of Horror spoof on Death Note. :srsnod:
That'd be amazing, haha.
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- Do you enjoy tabletop and other board/strategy/card games other than mafia? If so, what are some of your favorites?
Social deduction games are generally my favorites. I enjoy Resistance and secret hitler (both with some house rules to make the weak points of the games more interesting IMO), but favorite game in that genre is "don't mess with chuthulu". It's not as widespread as the others, but it's really good in that it fits newers players more, while still having a lot of depth for experienced players. I just love that game to my core.

Apart from social deductions i really enjoy Codenames, i've played it loads with both family and friends.

(i guess you'd count League of Legends as a strategy game, i play that quite a lot)
- Table tennis! That's cool. Are you a table tennis pro then? Do you play standard tennis as well?
uhm, if you define pro as earning money (no matter how little), i guess I technically am a "table tennis pro" until the end of summer :haha:
No, i don't play normal tennis even though i've thought it's been fun the few times i tried it. I played table tennis from when i was 8 to like 15, then i quit, and now i recently started again 9 months ago or so (i'm 21 now).
- Do you enjoy any other sports? If so, what is (are) your favorite(s) to spectate and/or play?
Nope, no other sport

I generally think it's more fun to play sports myself than watch them so i don't really watch much sports except for sweden in the football world cup for example. The "exception" if you can call it that is league of legends e-sports, which i watch decently regularly.
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Table tennis is the only sport I love as much as ultimate frisbee. :nicenod:

What kind of racket do you wield?

Do you favor backhand or forehand, if either?

Which hand do you use for table tennis?

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:23 am Table tennis is the only sport I love as much as ultimate frisbee. :nicenod:

What kind of racket do you wield?

Do you favor backhand or forehand, if either?

Which hand do you use for table tennis?

YOU WANNA PLAY ME, BRO? :suspish:

:p
I use long pimples on backhand, and a slow spin-heavy normal rubber on forehand. It's kinda hard to decide which of back/forehand i prefer since they're so different, but both are needed to complete the playstyle. Most of the time I use my pimples (backhand) to gain advantages and then try to finish it off with a forehand attack.

I'm right handed.

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M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:49 pm
How about some more questions? :D

- Favorite movie(s)?
Keith or One Small Hitch
- Favorite book(s)?
I'm currently really enjoying reading The Rook by Daniel O'Malley. I just picked it up this weekend, and I think I'll want to do something mafia related with it sometime.
- Do you have any pets? If not, what would you like to have if anything?
over the years we had guinea pigs, I like cats but Dad is allergic.
- Summer or winter weather?
Autumn is my favorite season. But Summer out of those choices.
- Favorite color? Least favorite color?
Favorite color is blue, practically all shades of it

Least favorite maybe yellow
- What is your favorite activity and/or location if you want to relax?
game design is a big one. location down by a dock near my parent's house or in a blanket
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I'd argue that Codenames also has a social deduction element, at least in my experience there's a very psychological/personal bent to deciphering the clues. I love that game as well, and Resistance is fun too (haven't played it as much)

do you have any favorite video games besides league?

and since owner just mentioned game design, have you ever been into that/made your own games of any kind (computer/board/whatever or i guess mafia design would also count)?
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nutella wrote: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:16 pm I'd argue that Codenames also has a social deduction element, at least in my experience there's a very psychological/personal bent to deciphering the clues. I love that game as well, and Resistance is fun too (haven't played it as much)

do you have any favorite video games besides league?

and since owner just mentioned game design, have you ever been into that/made your own games of any kind (computer/board/whatever or i guess mafia design would also count)?
I think people generally use "social deduction" as a term for hidden-role games that's derived from mafia, but yeah Code names is certainly a social game including a lot of deduction.

Was a while since last time but now and again I go back to wc3/sc2 custom games that i've always enjoyed, so i'd call those my 2 favorites after league. I recently replayed Cave Story, and it's still great. Undertale is pretty awesome too.

Game design is cool, and even though I've never made a bigger project/game it's always interested me. When i was like 5-7 y/o i kept making levels in a game called "Rocks and Diamonds" and made my dad play them. If i play something it's constantly in the back of my mind if there's something simple that could be changed to make it more enjoyable somehow.
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Fractal wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:13 pm oh, wrong account, whatever.

Bonus facts about Foxy (Some part of the family says she's spelled "Foxie", but she's not):

-Likes cucumber
-Often goes outside for 1-3 minutes and then comes inside acting like she's dying of hunger (preferably to a person that doesn't know she hasn't been out for long)
-When someone is scratching her behind her ears, and she feels the person isn't giving it their all, for example only using 1 hand, she'll gently bite the person in the chin until they give her all the attention/respect she feels she deserves.
-As soon as she smells the faintest trace of shrimps, she'll sit and look up with as big cute eyes as she can muster, for up to 10 minutes.
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Oh my god great cat picture!
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Thanks to [mention]Fractal[/mention] for being last month's new member to take the hot seat (super cute cat btw!) and I'm happy to announce we have some new blood among us...


Infected_alien8_ & Tsaiah Interrogation



For the next two interrogations, we're doubling the trouble, and pairing our familiar faces up. Let's welcome new members Infected_alien8_ & Tsaiah to the hot seat! Recruited to us once again through [mention]M Plus 7[/mention]'s champs games, both Infected_alien and Tsaiah have already recently made their Syndicate debuts playing the Epi-hosted Fantasy Mafia which a lot of us were betting on or participating in. What a great intro for both of them, hell of a performance all around by both sides; well done.

[mention]Infected_alien8_[/mention] / [mention]Tsaiah[/mention] to get things started: where are you from?

how often do you use facebook?

do you read the newspaper?

can you speak any other languages?

what's one physical feature you wish you could change about yourself?

what do you do for a living/study?


ok folks, time to get those questions pouring in. :)

(p.s. male pronouns for Infected_alien8_ and female pronouns for Tsaiah)
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Hello! Sorry in advance for my empty answers, I'm not very interesting lol

where are you from?

I'm from the UK

how often do you use facebook?

I used it to access a group chat for a project I was in at school

do you read the newspaper?

Nope

can you speak any other languages?

Nope

what's one physical feature you wish you could change about yourself?

No idea, 'grass greener on the other side' phenomenon and all that, I'd probably regret any change I made for some reason even though I have no idea what regrets those would be

what do you do for a living/study?

I study Psychology at University
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Hey guys.

Pancakes or waffles?

Do you prefer vanilla mafia or wacky madness mafia?

What was your most memorable mafia moment/game?
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do you know any good jokes i can impress my friends with?
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Pancakes or waffles?

I've never had waffles, so pancakes I guess!

Do you prefer vanilla mafia or wacky madness mafia?

Wacky madness mafia!

What was your most memorable mafia moment/game?

Probably when I tricked a member of the Mafia into revealing all of their teammates to me and exposed them all, for the second time :hug:
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Woops that was meant to be a :haha: emoji lol
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do you know any good jokes i can impress my friends with?

Afraid not lol
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what's your favorite food? we're all big foodies around here.

do you think people are inherently good or evil?
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Infected_alien8_ wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:59 pm What was your most memorable mafia moment/game?

Probably when I tricked a member of the Mafia into revealing all of their teammates to me and exposed them all, for the second time :hug:
I definitely want to hear the long version of this story! :scared:
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what's your favorite food? we're all big foodies around here.

Pasta probably. Like, spaghetti bolognese or something.

do you think people are inherently good or evil?

I don't know. I don't want to give an answer for that because I don't have one so whatever I write would be something I've only come up with right now and would probably be something I'd find a flaw in later. I also don't have a personal definition of 'good' or 'evil'.

I will say that I think I tend to gravitate towards a pessimistic view of the human race in general, but I wouldn't go so far as to say I think people are inherently evil. There are some people I see as absolutely good through and through and have nothing but love for them.

But I don't know whether I think people are ever 'inherently' good/evil, and if people are, in general, one or the other, I don't know which I'd ultimately decide on. I think a lot of people are capable of doing good things for others for example, kindness and thoughtfulness, and I think those same people are often capable of doing bad things for others and having selfish acts as well. I don't know if that means those selfish acts are 'evil' though. I've met some people who lean far one way over the other (far more giving than selfish, and vice versa). I'm not really sure where that leaves me.

So yeah, my answer is still 'I don't know' lol

I definitely want to hear the long version of this story! :scared:

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Well basically, we were in a game where everyone was given a role that included the name of somebody else playing and also a role name. I was a role called 'Town Innkeeper', and I was given the name Ltin, and I could make an Inn (a night chat) with 3 people each night and give that inn a name of my choosing. I asked the host if I could put myself in the inn and he said no. I asked if I could put 'Ltin' in the inn and if that would actually add me in the inn instead of ltin (I had a theory that night actions switched onto whatever name you were given), and he said I could try and find out.

So I created an inn called '[Night 1] Lie Detector Chat - Lies Here Will Be Sent To The Town Interrogator' or something. And I added ltin, and two other people. And it worked and I was there myself, though it turned out to be an error on the drunken host's part and I was never meant to be there lol.

So I played along as a confused person and told them I thought the inn was something like, if we told a lie, another role called 'Town Interrogator' would be informed of it, so we all had to tell the truth here. And I said I was Town and asked the others to say the same thing. The first of the other two actually admitted they were a third party role and claimed to us. And the other person actually admitted they were Mafia and that they would work with the third party and would kill me that night so that I didn't out them during the day.

I then claimed that I was also Mafia but that I was a secret member and I didn't know who the others were but I had the same win condition. We had a conversation about it, I asked how he planned to kill me without knowing my name (ltin) if targets were swapped like my theory predicted, and he told me that the Mafia had a role which could bypass that mechanic and also told us the Mafia had a messenger role which would contact the third party for them to work together.

Eventually he seemed convinced that I was Mafia, and said he'd asked the others if they could switch targets. He also said he'd contact me during the game with information and to warn me if I was barking up the wrong tree, like lynching one of the Mafia. They said they planned on killing this one person who happened to be my friend and always made Mafia 100x more exciting, so I tried my best to persuade them to kill someone else, but they ignored me completely.

The next morning I was alive, and so was he, but the person with my rolename 'Infected_alien8_' had been killed.

I considered just outing him then and there and revealing the truth of what happened, but I decided that it would be better if I tried to get some more out of him first. I decided to try to push on everyone in the game during the day, and wait to see if he'd ever signal me to stop pushing on them, and reveal any of his teammates.

Before I could do that though, they were outed as Mafia by our cop. So I decided to defend them, temporarily, to gain their trust and possibly get more information out of them. I told everyone the story of the lie detector chat, but told them all that that person had claimed Town and so I was sure of their innocence, and eventually he claimed to be the 'Town Interrogator' that got told when one of us lied, and he said he'd claimed to us already that night, and I agreed and got everyone to back off of him. He said we came back as Town. But then the roleblocker claimed to block someone, who then turned out to be HIS name, meaning he'd been blocked. So there was an argument about that as well and whether to trust the roleblocker, and whether maybe the inn was fake and created by Mafia to trick us into thinking he'd told the truth about being Town.

After that, while all that was going on, I put my plan into motion and started pushing on players I had been suspicious of day 0 and threw in some hints to him that I was waiting for signals. And when I was pushing on my first suspect, the next day, suddenly I received a 'disagree' rating on that post, from the guy. The post was only saying how I thought that person was Mafia. They never made another post defending them or anything, it was just that disagree rating that they dropped there some time after I'd said it and after the thread had moved on a bit.

I decided to switch onto my second suspect, and the exact same thing happened. They disagreed with a post I made when I suspected them - the only other thing I said in the post was an argument that they then quoted and agreed with, so the disagree rating must have been meant for me suspecting them. But again they said nothing about it in the thread, so it wasn't like they were defending them for some pocket tactic or anything, they were just disagreeing with my post to let me know.

I did it with my third suspect but got nothing. Did it with my forth however and the exact same happened again, they disagreed with my post saying I wanted to lynch them.

I was actually expecting them to use their messenger role to signal me instead of forum ratings but when I looked back at the chat I noticed they'd suggested their message only works during the night, so it made sense they'd use forum ratings as a signal instead.

Anyway, after a while of pushing on several others to see if anything stuck, I decided to stop the charade and announce what had really happened. I asked everyone in the thread if anyone had any objections to me revealing a list of who the Mafia are again, if I was in fact correct about it (this was the second time I'd done this and I was worried about ruining the game for people by making it too easy). Everyone said they were okay with it.

I told the whole story, pointed to the posts they'd disagreed with, and made my list of Mafia. I also pointed at the person who I'd tried to persuade him to kill the last night but I was ignored, and suggested maybe he was Mafia too and that would explain the resistance to kill him, but that I'd pushed on them too during the day and got no signal so he was just sort of a 'keep an eye on him too' on my list. So I had a list of 4 Mafia and then him. I also told them about the information he'd already given me, about the mafia messenger role and the role that could supposedly bypass the name-switch mechanic.

Most people believed my story but my friend spent a while argueing that I was lying, and then decided I was telling the truth but had been tricked and that the signals were false decoy ones to get us to mislynch. They reasoned that 1) the person surely wouldn't be silly enough to fall for my plan, and 2) the person to die that night was called 'Infected_alien8', and the kill itself was strange because they were a lurker and so not much of a threat to anyone, and they theorized that the person who I was tricking was actually the bypass name mechanic role themself, targeted me because they didn't really believe my story, were blocked and so the name switch took place and killed them. And since they didn't believe that I was actually Mafia with them, they had no reason to give me genuine signals to share their team to me. It was a good theory and made me doubt myself a bit. But I couldn't understand why he'd lie to me in the nightchat instead of just telling me he didn't believe me, and my intuition told me his signals were accurate, and I reasoned that I'd just defended him from a cop claim and so surely that would be enough to convince him that I was in fact Mafia, even if he hadn't been convinced the night before. And I also pointed out that the people who had been signalled were all people I was already suspicious of day 0 (and my reads are generally accurate on my homesite), which gave me all the more reason to believe it - although someone suggested that the reason it was those people who he signalled was because I'd be easily convinced to lead mislynches onto them.

But anyway, we lynched the guy, he turned out he was in fact the one who could bypass the mechanic, so my friend's theory seemed true to that point. The next day, though, my friend was dead, and when we asked one of the people on my list to claim, he claimed to be a messenger role, and I pointed out how the Mafia apparently had a messenger role, and this would fit perfectly. With my friend dead and little resistance to it, we lynched him, and he was in fact Mafia, meaning that signal had been true.

The next day we did the same thing, got them to claim, they did, it wasn't convincing, we lynched them, they were Mafia.

Same again the next day.

And then the next day... turns out there was a second Mafia team with an arsonist type role who had planted bombs on all of us and we all blew up and lost anyway lol. So all of that didn't even secure us the win. But it was a lot of fun.

And that was the second time I convinced a Mafia to tell me their team. The first time was when I was a third party messenger role with a gun and tricked one of them into telling me the others, tricked all the PR roles to reveal themselves to me using another role in the game's ability to target roles + post public announcements, and sussed out and blackmailed the serial killer and oh that was a g r e a t game, but that's a whole other story.
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Infected_alien8_ wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 12:11 am what's your favorite food? we're all big foodies around here.

Pasta probably. Like, spaghetti bolognese or something.

do you think people are inherently good or evil?

I don't know. I don't want to give an answer for that because I don't have one so whatever I write would be something I've only come up with right now and would probably be something I'd find a flaw in later. I also don't have a personal definition of 'good' or 'evil'.

I will say that I think I tend to gravitate towards a pessimistic view of the human race in general, but I wouldn't go so far as to say I think people are inherently evil. There are some people I see as absolutely good through and through and have nothing but love for them.

But I don't know whether I think people are ever 'inherently' good/evil, and if people are, in general, one or the other, I don't know which I'd ultimately decide on. I think a lot of people are capable of doing good things for others for example, kindness and thoughtfulness, and I think those same people are often capable of doing bad things for others and having selfish acts as well. I don't know if that means those selfish acts are 'evil' though. I've met some people who lean far one way over the other (far more giving than selfish, and vice versa). I'm not really sure where that leaves me.

So yeah, my answer is still 'I don't know' lol

I definitely want to hear the long version of this story! :scared:

Okay, here it is:
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Well basically, we were in a game where everyone was given a role that included the name of somebody else playing and also a role name. I was a role called 'Town Innkeeper', and I was given the name Ltin, and I could make an Inn (a night chat) with 3 people each night and give that inn a name of my choosing. I asked the host if I could put myself in the inn and he said no. I asked if I could put 'Ltin' in the inn and if that would actually add me in the inn instead of ltin (I had a theory that night actions switched onto whatever name you were given), and he said I could try and find out.

So I created an inn called '[Night 1] Lie Detector Chat - Lies Here Will Be Sent To The Town Interrogator' or something. And I added ltin, and two other people. And it worked and I was there myself, though it turned out to be an error on the drunken host's part and I was never meant to be there lol.

So I played along as a confused person and told them I thought the inn was something like, if we told a lie, another role called 'Town Interrogator' would be informed of it, so we all had to tell the truth here. And I said I was Town and asked the others to say the same thing. The first of the other two actually admitted they were a third party role and claimed to us. And the other person actually admitted they were Mafia and that they would work with the third party and would kill me that night so that I didn't out them during the day.

I then claimed that I was also Mafia but that I was a secret member and I didn't know who the others were but I had the same win condition. We had a conversation about it, I asked how he planned to kill me without knowing my name (ltin) if targets were swapped like my theory predicted, and he told me that the Mafia had a role which could bypass that mechanic and also told us the Mafia had a messenger role which would contact the third party for them to work together.

Eventually he seemed convinced that I was Mafia, and said he'd asked the others if they could switch targets. He also said he'd contact me during the game with information and to warn me if I was barking up the wrong tree, like lynching one of the Mafia. They said they planned on killing this one person who happened to be my friend and always made Mafia 100x more exciting, so I tried my best to persuade them to kill someone else, but they ignored me completely.

The next morning I was alive, and so was he, but the person with my rolename 'Infected_alien8_' had been killed.

I considered just outing him then and there and revealing the truth of what happened, but I decided that it would be better if I tried to get some more out of him first. I decided to try to push on everyone in the game during the day, and wait to see if he'd ever signal me to stop pushing on them, and reveal any of his teammates.

Before I could do that though, they were outed as Mafia by our cop. So I decided to defend them, temporarily, to gain their trust and possibly get more information out of them. I told everyone the story of the lie detector chat, but told them all that that person had claimed Town and so I was sure of their innocence, and eventually he claimed to be the 'Town Interrogator' that got told when one of us lied, and he said he'd claimed to us already that night, and I agreed and got everyone to back off of him. He said we came back as Town. But then the roleblocker claimed to block someone, who then turned out to be HIS name, meaning he'd been blocked. So there was an argument about that as well and whether to trust the roleblocker, and whether maybe the inn was fake and created by Mafia to trick us into thinking he'd told the truth about being Town.

After that, while all that was going on, I put my plan into motion and started pushing on players I had been suspicious of day 0 and threw in some hints to him that I was waiting for signals. And when I was pushing on my first suspect, the next day, suddenly I received a 'disagree' rating on that post, from the guy. The post was only saying how I thought that person was Mafia. They never made another post defending them or anything, it was just that disagree rating that they dropped there some time after I'd said it and after the thread had moved on a bit.

I decided to switch onto my second suspect, and the exact same thing happened. They disagreed with a post I made when I suspected them - the only other thing I said in the post was an argument that they then quoted and agreed with, so the disagree rating must have been meant for me suspecting them. But again they said nothing about it in the thread, so it wasn't like they were defending them for some pocket tactic or anything, they were just disagreeing with my post to let me know.

I did it with my third suspect but got nothing. Did it with my forth however and the exact same happened again, they disagreed with my post saying I wanted to lynch them.

I was actually expecting them to use their messenger role to signal me instead of forum ratings but when I looked back at the chat I noticed they'd suggested their message only works during the night, so it made sense they'd use forum ratings as a signal instead.

Anyway, after a while of pushing on several others to see if anything stuck, I decided to stop the charade and announce what had really happened. I asked everyone in the thread if anyone had any objections to me revealing a list of who the Mafia are again, if I was in fact correct about it (this was the second time I'd done this and I was worried about ruining the game for people by making it too easy). Everyone said they were okay with it.

I told the whole story, pointed to the posts they'd disagreed with, and made my list of Mafia. I also pointed at the person who I'd tried to persuade him to kill the last night but I was ignored, and suggested maybe he was Mafia too and that would explain the resistance to kill him, but that I'd pushed on them too during the day and got no signal so he was just sort of a 'keep an eye on him too' on my list. So I had a list of 4 Mafia and then him. I also told them about the information he'd already given me, about the mafia messenger role and the role that could supposedly bypass the name-switch mechanic.

Most people believed my story but my friend spent a while argueing that I was lying, and then decided I was telling the truth but had been tricked and that the signals were false decoy ones to get us to mislynch. They reasoned that 1) the person surely wouldn't be silly enough to fall for my plan, and 2) the person to die that night was called 'Infected_alien8', and the kill itself was strange because they were a lurker and so not much of a threat to anyone, and they theorized that the person who I was tricking was actually the bypass name mechanic role themself, targeted me because they didn't really believe my story, were blocked and so the name switch took place and killed them. And since they didn't believe that I was actually Mafia with them, they had no reason to give me genuine signals to share their team to me. It was a good theory and made me doubt myself a bit. But I couldn't understand why he'd lie to me in the nightchat instead of just telling me he didn't believe me, and my intuition told me his signals were accurate, and I reasoned that I'd just defended him from a cop claim and so surely that would be enough to convince him that I was in fact Mafia, even if he hadn't been convinced the night before. And I also pointed out that the people who had been signalled were all people I was already suspicious of day 0 (and my reads are generally accurate on my homesite), which gave me all the more reason to believe it - although someone suggested that the reason it was those people who he signalled was because I'd be easily convinced to lead mislynches onto them.

But anyway, we lynched the guy, he turned out he was in fact the one who could bypass the mechanic, so my friend's theory seemed true to that point. The next day, though, my friend was dead, and when we asked one of the people on my list to claim, he claimed to be a messenger role, and I pointed out how the Mafia apparently had a messenger role, and this would fit perfectly. With my friend dead and little resistance to it, we lynched him, and he was in fact Mafia, meaning that signal had been true.

The next day we did the same thing, got them to claim, they did, it wasn't convincing, we lynched them, they were Mafia.

Same again the next day.

And then the next day... turns out there was a second Mafia team with an arsonist type role who had planted bombs on all of us and we all blew up and lost anyway lol. So all of that didn't even secure us the win. But it was a lot of fun.

And that was the second time I convinced a Mafia to tell me their team. The first time was when I was a third party messenger role with a gun and tricked one of them into telling me the others, tricked all the PR roles to reveal themselves to me using another role in the game's ability to target roles + post public announcements, and sussed out and blackmailed the serial killer and oh that was a g r e a t game, but that's a whole other story.
Also about the 'good vs evil' thing, I don't think I'm 'inherently good' or anything and when I say that I tend to lean towards viewing the human race in general in a pessimistic way, that includes myself, just in case anyone thought I was sitting on a high horse saying I thought I was better than anyone else lol, that's not the case!
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[mention]Infected_alien8_[/mention], what is one thing you learned from your experience playing in the Mafia Universe tournament?

[mention]Tsaiah[/mention], are there any players who you feel have most influenced your approach to Mafia (from any site)?

Each of you: what was the first Internet forum you regularly visited?
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:50 pm @Infected_alien8_, what is one thing you learned from your experience playing in the Mafia Universe tournament?

@Tsaiah, are there any players who you feel have most influenced your approach to Mafia (from any site)?

Each of you: what was the first Internet forum you regularly visited?
what is one thing you learned from your experience playing in the Mafia Universe tournament?

I learnt a *lot*, but one thing would be to keep my attention on things that are actually alignment-indicative. In my first game, there was a player called SR, and I found myself mindmelding with him a l o t, like the things he'd say were things I wanted to say too, and because of that, I was able to view my own thoughts laid out to the thread but coming from someone else, which proved to be a really useful experience. I learnt that, as he admitted, a lot of the thoughts I had that I pursued - ones I had withheld from saying in that particular game because he was already saying it all, but on my homesite they were things I'd flood the thread with - were actually more about picking at people's logic than actually determining their alignment. I realized I spent a great deal of time playing Mafia pointing out logical flaws or loopholes in others' arguments and acting as though logical flaws meant they were Mafia, when really a lot of it was just not indicative of alignment because we all sometimes make errors in logic regardless of alignment (myself included obviously). And it was only through seeing SR pursue things like that, that I questioned 'okay but, is this actually relevant to their alignment?', and a few others questioned it to, and he basically said that a lot of the time he didn't really think that far ahead about that, just saw logical error and wanted to dig into it, which is exactly how I was too, and it was like 'woah... that's what I DO!'. So I learnt that some things aren't alignment-indicative and some are, and even though keeping everything logical is useful in Mafia, spending all my energy and flooding the thread with pushing at someone for a logical flaw isn't the best use of my time. I should have learnt that already since I've mislynched someone for logical flaws before, but it took seeing someone else do it to make me realize what I had to change. It was pretty amazing.

I mean who knows maybe I completely misinterpreted what SR was saying and we weren't actually on the same page about that and it was just me but I still learnt a lot from him lol

what was the first Internet forum you regularly visited?

My homesite, though it went by a different name back then, but it's been my #1 forum ever since I was 12 or so, and up until like two years ago was the only one I'd ever used.
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dunya wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:17 pm
how often do you use facebook?

do you read the newspaper?

can you speak any other languages?

what's one physical feature you wish you could change about yourself?

what do you do for a living/study?
Facebook: never? xD I -have- an account, but i primarily used it to get back in contact qith some old high school and college friends, and i've just never been interested in posting frequent feed updates, so xD

Newspaper: i enjoy reading online newspapers (tho i tend to do my news catchups in spurts). The harder part these days is finding media that is actually primarily text-based--i go to news outlets to -read- the news, not to watch videos, for the most part, and so many of them (even online newspapers) are heavy on videos now ;;

Lanuagues: speak, no. xD But i've always been fascinated by other languages, and i enjoy learning them. :3 i did get to a point where i could understand juuust enough Japanese to catch vague gists in anime, but i'm rusty now. Studying Latin (dead languages woo!) and German in school was also fun.

Physical feature: Uhhh, hmm. xD I've grown more comfortable in just looking like i happened to look, over the years, but if i could -now- I'd probably just Avatar-movie-style transfer me into a younger version, loool

For a living: Right now i work at Chili's, and almost all my jobs have been in customer service of some type.
Study: i majored in English, and i'd rather be a fiction writer, but that doesn't pay the bills! xD I do still write regularly for fun, tho.
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Oh i missed where from: Mississippi, US
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speedchuck wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:49 pm Hey guys.

Pancakes or waffles?

Do you prefer vanilla mafia or wacky madness mafia?

What was your most memorable mafia moment/game?
- Umm, pancakes most often (tho occasionally a really strong waffle mood hits me). They're both good tho!

- Both--very mood and game dependent. I enjoy a good mountainous (no prs at all), a lower-power classic game, or intensely brain exploding mechanics. Probably like the two extreme ends the very most, thinking about it--all the crazy mech, or none at all!

- Ooh, memorable moments...there are so many, tho! Just randomly picking a few:xD

FR's TV Tropes 1, an intense, looong, 24-hour phase crazed mechanics fest, where I first started getting to know my significant other, Polygone. :3

MU's first anniversary game, the celebration and screaming when the last mafia was lynched on d7 (i was town doc, had claimed on d4, and mafia had left me alive to try to mislynch x3; )

FR's TV Tropes 2, the point at which as scum, i was forced to walk back a hard push on my bud and longtime rival Fish, when he outted as alignment cop. Took me an hour or two to nail the tone, but somehow i managed it successfully in one post--and simultaneously pocketed Fish in the process xD (still consider that my best scumgame hue)

FR's Lollipop, Lollipop, where my beloved mafia friend Stanari got sort of mechanically outted, and proceeded to utilize the editing-allowed rule that game by editing almost all of her hundreds of posts into BIRD GIFS. xD Then later claimed that her wincon flipped between mafia and town so believably, that even after all that, I BELIEVED HER xD (we didn't kill her for days!)

MU's introduction to FR-style role madness games in the form of Poly's Sukilimas 1 :3
5 people 400-800 posted on d1--and only -one- of them was town. xD By far my favorite hard-fought LOSS to a great mafia team hue

And pretty much any game where i've gotten to have an amazing neighborhood chat! Top among those: chat with town abyssum! :D (i couldn't neighbor them fast -enough- i was so excited xD) One with town Wolf was also pretty awesome, and a particularly memorable chat where MAFIA polygone utterly convinced town me he was a neutral (and i proceeded to defend him as such xD)
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dunya wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:51 pm do you know any good jokes i can impress my friends with?
Impress? No xD

But here

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dunya wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:46 pm what's your favorite food? we're all big foodies around here.

do you think people are inherently good or evil?
- Pizza! Almost all cheeeeeses. Sushi. Asian style noodles. Danishes with coffee. And red bull? xD

- GOOD. The vast majority, at any rate. And i feel very, very strongly about this. :3
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