WWE MAFIA - Day 14

[Draconus]

But I AM a Hulkamaniac...

Great... TH is dead.... Now who's gonna talk to Epi?
Bass- Devon isn't dead....

Ture on both counts! The TH point, I guess, means less reading

And <High Five> for surviving the NKs with me, Sorsha!
I'm confused about both baddie teams getting to NK at the same time, though... Was this a mistake, DF???

And finally, TH, Lou, and Lizzy

[Mongoose]

Holy mother of pearl.

Reminded me a bit of the Bioshock game when ~7 people died.

So where do we go from here, guys?

[Draconus]

Epig: How did you know you wouldn't die tonight?

Also Host, when I'm dead (won't happen tonight) what EVER will you do without me?

I didn't think anything of this comment before the night post when Almost 5 people died.

[Draconus]

EBWOP: *Last Night*

[Mongoose]

I suspect some items were in play last night.

[Epignosis]

Maybe I didn't know.

Maybe I could go at any time.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Well, I'm back from the desert, in RL and in the game. The conference went well, and the trip was awesome.

[Epignosis]

It seems reasonable to surmise that on Night 7, whoever Eddie is targeted whoever is HHH. Then on Night 8, Eddie got to kill instead of HHH.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Maybe I didn't know.

Maybe I could go at any time.

And, I call BS. I'm pretty sure you're bad, and I think it's time everyone stops giving you a free pass. Yeah, I know I've been the center of a lot of accusation, but I'm willing to take the risk to help take you down.

And so it begins... Go ahead, tell me how I'm hypocritical or grill me. I'm ready.

[Epignosis]

You've been "the center of a lot of accusation," but you're willing to take a risk to take me down? Just what risk would you be taking?

[DFaraday]

I'm confused about both baddie teams getting to NK at the same time, though... Was this a mistake, DF???

I make many mistakes, but that was not one of them.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

The risk is drawing attention to myself of course. I mean practically half the players vowed to vote for me again. [mild exaggeration]

[Epignosis]

Then it would seem you have an incentive to try to get me lynched today. That's hardly taking a risk.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Well, whatever you mean by incentive is beyond me, but I see you're going to just play it cool. That's ok. I don't blame you. I don't think it takes too much to begin pointing out evidence on you. You can blow off getting civvies lynched and conveniently diverting your vote to look innocent all you want. Being out in the open is the best cover, right? You don't show any qualms about these deaths, and your I don't give a crap style covers for you.

And then there's little things like this. You know too much about how this works.

It seems reasonable to surmise that on Night 7, whoever Eddie is targeted whoever is HHH. Then on Night 8, Eddie got to kill instead of HHH.

And this little weird comment, again hinting that you know something. Either you do, or you're bad and you want make it look like you've secretly ticked off the baddies.

Epig: How did you know you wouldn't die tonight?

Also Host, when I'm dead (won't happen tonight) what EVER will you do without me?

I didn't think anything of this comment before the night post when Almost 5 people died.

And that's part of why I said this:

Maybe I didn't know.

Maybe I could go at any time.

And, I call BS. I'm pretty sure you're bad, and I think it's time everyone stops giving you a free pass. Yeah, I know I've been the center of a lot of accusation, but I'm willing to take the risk to help take you down.

And so it begins... Go ahead, tell me how I'm hypocritical or grill me. I'm ready.

Didn't you pretty bluntly declare you don't care if you're suspected? I'm not so sure now, although I'm sure you'll say this last comment was sarcastic.

[Sorsha]

But I AM a Hulkamaniac...

Great... TH is dead.... Now who's gonna talk to Epi?
Bass- Devon isn't dead....

Ture on both counts! The TH point, I guess, means less reading

And <High Five> for surviving the NKs with me, Sorsha!
I'm confused about both baddie teams getting to NK at the same time, though... Was this a mistake, DF???

And finally, TH, Lou, and Lizzy

Why high five me? Weirdo.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Hm, no response still. Well, while checking back in I also noticed something else from this:

It seems reasonable to surmise that on Night 7, whoever Eddie is targeted whoever is HHH. Then on Night 8, Eddie got to kill instead of HHH.

Why HHH? Didn't the post seem to link Eddie w/ Edge? And isn't Trisha another role that can steal powers? Your explanation for HHH not killing makes sense, but I find it odd that you tried to make that connection.

[Epignosis]

Hm, no response still. Well, while checking back in I also noticed something else from this:

It seems reasonable to surmise that on Night 7, whoever Eddie is targeted whoever is HHH. Then on Night 8, Eddie got to kill instead of HHH.

Why HHH? Didn't the post seem to link Eddie w/ Edge? And isn't Trisha another role that can steal powers? Your explanation for HHH not killing makes sense, but I find it odd that you tried to make that connection.

Don't worry chuckles. I'm writing my response now. I had to wait for my BTSC partners to tell me how to respond to your damning case on me because I wasn't sure how to go about it teach my classes, work with the students in my guitar club, drive home, take a shower, get a beer, and now I've sat down.

[S~V~S]

Great... TH is dead.... Now who's gonna talk to Epi?

Looks like he found someone

I plan to take some time to reread LouLou, Daisy & CBK before I vote. Although I wish he would be less intentionally cryptic (I appreciate your straight answer to the question i asked you this AM, Epi, although I don't really know that I believe you when you say you were joking, it did not feel like a joke post to me) I still doubt Epi is bad. CBK on the other hand, I dunno.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Take as much time as you need [in calm Ben voice]

[Epignosis]

Well, whatever you mean by incentive is beyond me, but I see you're going to just play it cool. That's ok. I don't blame you. I don't think it takes too much to begin pointing out evidence on you. You can blow off getting civvies lynched and conveniently diverting your vote to look innocent all you want. Being out in the open is the best cover, right? You don't show any qualms about these deaths, and your I don't give a crap style covers for you.

Qualms?

I think the word you meant to use is "remorse." And no, I don't show remorse.

And then there's little things like this. You know too much about how this works.

It seems reasonable to surmise that on Night 7, whoever Eddie is targeted whoever is HHH. Then on Night 8, Eddie got to kill instead of HHH.

So synthesizing the information in the role descriptions and the information in the host posts is knowing too much about how this works?

Triple H – Triple H is the Cerebral Assassin, and strives to be the best in the world…at any cost. HHH will kill a player every night. He will survive the first lynch and night kill attempt on him. HHH must be the last man standing to win.

Eddie Guerrero – Eddie lies, cheats, and steals, but at least he’s honest about it! Every odd night Eddie may target a player and steal their ability for the next night. He will also cheat death once. Finally, if role checked, Eddie will lie and come back as a random civvie. However, Eddie only needs to survive to win.

Trish Stratus – Trish is an innovator in women’s wrestling. Each odd night she will target a player. There is a 30% chance that player will be silenced, a 30% chance that that player will start the next day with two votes, and a 40% chance that Trish will gain that player’s ability for the next night. 100% Stratusfaction guaranteed!

Fact: HHH killed on Night 7 but was not lynched Day 8. Unless Elohcin was Triple H, Triple H was free to kill Night 8.
Fact: HHH did not kill on Night 8.
Fact: Eddie / Trish steals powers.
Fact: Eddie / Trish has no kill listed in their role descriptions.
Fact: Eddie / Trish killed.

Therefore, the simplest explanation I can think of is that on Night 7, Eddie or Trish targeted the player who is HHH and on Night 8 elected to kill Lou (coincidentally, Edge targeted Lou too) / Lizzy. Since his power was stolen, HHH did not kill.

It doesn't take special information to come to this conclusion.

If I'm right though, then it means Eddie or Trish knows who Triple H is.

And this little weird comment, again hinting that you know something. Either you do, or you're bad and you want make it look like you've secretly ticked off the baddies.

Epig: How did you know you wouldn't die tonight?

Also Host, when I'm dead (won't happen tonight) what EVER will you do without me?

I didn't think anything of this comment before the night post when Almost 5 people died.

And that's part of why I said this:

Maybe I didn't know.

Maybe I could go at any time.

And, I call BS. I'm pretty sure you're bad, and I think it's time everyone stops giving you a free pass. Yeah, I know I've been the center of a lot of accusation, but I'm willing to take the risk to help take you down.

And so it begins... Go ahead, tell me how I'm hypocritical or grill me. I'm ready.

Didn't you pretty bluntly declare you don't care if you're suspected? I'm not so sure now, although I'm sure you'll say this last comment was sarcastic.

No, I don't mind being suspected. That comes with the territory. I've been suspected off and on in this game plenty. People have even voted for me.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

I recognized that the HHH fail to kill part made sense. It was that you paired Eddie w/ HHH, even though the host post paired him w/ Edge. Wouldn't it look more like Eddie would know who Edge is?

[Epignosis]

I recognized that the HHH fail to kill part made sense. It was that you paired Eddie w/ HHH, even though the host post paired him w/ Edge. Wouldn't it look more like Eddie would know who Edge is?

I don't see why. And I didn't pair anybody together.

Like I said, I think Edge and Eddie coincidentally targeted the same person (Lou) and therefore they both killed her.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

What? This seems to be a direct linking of the two roles to me. You said nothing about Trish in this and nothing about a coincidental double kill. I'm not saying your theory isn't possible. I'm just saying your comments seem odd and a little inconsistent.

It seems reasonable to surmise that on Night 7, whoever Eddie is targeted whoever is HHH. Then on Night 8, Eddie got to kill instead of HHH.

[Epignosis]

What? This seems to be a direct linking of the two roles to me. You said nothing about Trish in this and nothing about a coincidental double kill. I'm not saying your theory isn't possible. I'm just saying your comments seem odd and a little inconsistent.

It seems reasonable to surmise that on Night 7, whoever Eddie is targeted whoever is HHH. Then on Night 8, Eddie got to kill instead of HHH.

I posted that line at work. I was mulling things over while taking a piss and that revelation occurred to me. Then I came back and posted that. I didn't sit down and make any kind of in-depth analysis. So no, I didn't mention Trish at the time.

Would you mind explaining this linking of the roles? What does that mean?

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Sorry, what linking? Your Eddie/HHH thing or Eddie/Edge? Not sure what you're asking.

[Epignosis]

What? This seems to be a direct linking of the two roles to me.

That.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Ok, I'm not quoting your original post again. You picked Eddie as targeting HHH right off the bat, when that was not what appeared to be the most obvious connection. I thought it was odd, and then you added Trish.

So, what do you think happened since both Trish and Eddie killed?

[S~V~S]

Personally, I think you killed Lou. I could be wrong, but that has never stopped me from saying what the hell i want before

Now you can go back to ignoring me and pick up sparring with Epi where you left off~

[Epignosis]

Oh, I see what you mean. I was assigning a different antecedent to one of your pronouns. I understand now.

Ok, I'm not quoting your original post again. You picked Eddie as targeting HHH right off the bat, when that was not what appeared to be the most obvious connection. I thought it was odd, and then you added Trish.

So, what do you think happened since both Trish and Eddie killed?

Yes, I picked Eddie because I was thinking about Eddie, not Trish. I was at work. When I arrived home, I was able to look at things more.

I definitely think one of them targeted HHH. As for the other kill, I don't know. I haven't gotten that far yet.

Does this say anything about my alignment or are you pressing me on it for some other reason?

[S~V~S]

Maybe because she is Eddie? Becasue tbh, I thought she was Eddie before Eddie killed Lou.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Sorry, did I ignore something from you? Feel free to explain your argument. I'm not sure there'll be much sparring from here.

linki: No, I hadn't thought about a coincidental kill. I mean, Trish's kill was announced differently than Eddie's. It just seemed like Eddie and Edge were connected, but you jumped to Eddie and HHH. That's all. Go ahead and try to make me look ridiculous with grammatical comments. I don't care.

[Epignosis]

The grammatical comment was related my own misunderstanding. I'm not sure this exchanged has warranted your "go aheads."

And so it begins... Go ahead, tell me how I'm hypocritical or grill me. I'm ready.

Go ahead and try to make me look ridiculous with grammatical comments. I don't care.

[S~V~S]

Sorry, did I ignore something from you? Feel free to explain your argument. I'm not sure there'll be much sparring from here.

linki: No, I hadn't thought about a coincidental kill. I mean, Trish's kill was announced differently than Eddie's. It just seemed like Eddie and Edge were connected, but you jumped to Eddie and HHH. That's all. Go ahead and try to make me look ridiculous with grammatical comments. I don't care.

Well, I said this this morning....and you ignored it although you did post extensively today.

Holy crap that was a lot of death or near death~ i guess we know how trish felt about lizzy :lol:

Both baddie teams killed, and Eddie Guerro got a kill?

If not, there's a bridge I can hide under.

Where is it? I feel like I might need a bridge to hide under tonight.

Bridges are no good. The fish like to nibble at your dangly bits.

Seriously, there's a good chance you won't die tonight.

Well, since he DID die, could you explain this a bit? I can't imagine you saying something like this if you WERE the Undertaker, but better to get the question out of the way sooner rather than later.

I am probably going to vote for CBK, since i think she killed a civvie last night. Based on different things that happened with CBK, i think it is most likely that she is the mimic, and he killed LouLou who I think was a specific civ role. I have no need to vote early, but I won;t be back until late tonight and wanted to get this out there.

Hi DP Anything to say about all these shenanigans?

Then i said this literally one minute before you posted, you had to have gotten it in linki, and you ignored it too.

Great... TH is dead.... Now who's gonna talk to Epi?

Looks like he found someone

I plan to take some time to reread LouLou, Daisy & CBK before I vote. Although I wish he would be less intentionally cryptic (I appreciate your straight answer to the question i asked you this AM, Epi, although I don't really know that I believe you when you say you were joking, it did not feel like a joke post to me) I still doubt Epi is bad. CBK on the other hand, I dunno.

Does your role have a mimic ability? I guess that is the brass tacks, isn't it? Based on some of the things that have happened with you, like survivals, and getting off the poll, and Lou dying after saying this:

Hold up, no one was lynched? Interesting. Idk if this is a good thing or a bad thing. Could it be someone stopping the lynch because they believe him to be civvie? Or does this mean CBK is bad?

You seem to do this often, you ask seemingly rhetorical questions, about things that are already being discussed by others in in the thread, but without offering your own thoughts on it. What do you think? Do you think someone saved CBK, or do you think she's bad?

Well my question wasn't rhetorical and I didn't realise that I 'do this often' either. I was simply asking for others opinions on it. The whole not revealing who people are thing on here is really frustrating because I am not used to playing this way. I needed to know if he was good or bad. Telling me nothing doesn't help me in any way because again...things are different here. Personally I think he's bad, but if someone knows something, enough to want to stop his lynch, I don't know if that makes him good.

[Mongoose]

In re: Lou, I was very surprised to see her get killed last night - she was drawing so much fire lately.

[S~V~S]

I did think she was civ, though. Read her posts since Daisy died, and I think there is some clarity there.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Ok, I saw a bunch of statements, but people have been saying I'm bad for days now. I guess I don't respond until there's a specific idea behind the statement (or when everyone jumps on the accusation train at once).

I'm not sure what you want to ask me other than to tell my role. Since I can't do that, I can tell you I'm not bad. But what does that tell you? You may not believe me. Why do you think Lou was good and Eddie would necessarily be bad for killing her? Are you suggesting I killed Lou because she said I was bad? Didn't like almost everyone say I was bad?

Truly, I did not intend to ignore you. Does that answer your questions (as much as possible)?

link: sure, I will look back on Lou.

[S~V~S]

Does your role have a fixed power? I am sure you can answer that

And based on this amazingly blendy and ever so precise answer, i am gonna get this out of the way and vote for you now.

[Captain Bunny Killer]

Does your role have a fixed power? I am sure you can answer that

And based on this amazingly blendy and ever so precise answer, i am gonna get this out of the way and vote for you now.

Come on. It's blendy to not tell you my role? What's your role then? Do you have a power? Would you answer such questions? And you didn't answer my questions. Why do you think Lou was good and Eddie would be bad?

Yeah, see? Just because someone can't tell something, doesn't mean they're bad.

[Draconus]

But I AM a Hulkamaniac...

Great... TH is dead.... Now who's gonna talk to Epi?
Bass- Devon isn't dead....

Ture on both counts! The TH point, I guess, means less reading

And <High Five> for surviving the NKs with me, Sorsha!
I'm confused about both baddie teams getting to NK at the same time, though... Was this a mistake, DF???

And finally, TH, Lou, and Lizzy

Why high five me? Weirdo.

Why not?

[Draconus]

Hm, no response still. Well, while checking back in I also noticed something else from this:

It seems reasonable to surmise that on Night 7, whoever Eddie is targeted whoever is HHH. Then on Night 8, Eddie got to kill instead of HHH.

Why HHH? Didn't the post seem to link Eddie w/ Edge? And isn't Trisha another role that can steal powers? Your explanation for HHH not killing makes sense, but I find it odd that you tried to make that connection.

Don't worry chuckles. I'm writing my response now. I had to wait for my BTSC partners to tell me how to respond to your damning case on me because I wasn't sure how to go about it teach my classes, work with the students in my guitar club, drive home, take a shower, get a beer, and now I've sat down.

[S~V~S]

Does your role have a fixed power? I am sure you can answer that

And based on this amazingly blendy and ever so precise answer, i am gonna get this out of the way and vote for you now.

Come on. It's blendy to not tell you my role? What's your role then? Do you have a power? Would you answer such questions? And you didn't answer my questions. Why do you think Lou was good and Eddie would be bad?

Yeah, see? Just because someone can't tell something, doesn't mean they're bad.

So you won't say that you have a fixed power? I have a fixed power. Do you know my role now? i am not asking you to tell me your role, I am asking you to tell me if you have a fixed power.

I think Lou was a civ based on her interactions with Daisy.

And i think you killed her. that is why i voted for you

I generally tend to leave Indy "alive at the end" roles alone, but i think you killed a civvie, so you are not civvie friendly.

[Loulou26]

Wow, someone really wanted me dead huh? Well I would like to say that I'm sorry for being so sucky at this game, I promise you I am normally much better than this. Give me time, I'll get there. It just took a lot to adjust to having such short days and nights plus soooo many people I didn't know.

So thank you for welcoming me in, and thanks DF for a great game. See you soon

[Draconus]

I just had a sudden change in the feeling in my gut... And it's a strong feeling, too.
I'm going with it.



I encourage everyone to look past what's happening in thread.

Bye now.

[Epignosis]

That feeling in your gut might be related to stale Taco Bell.

Good job trying to lead a lynch bandwagon on a civilian. Everyone knows I'm the king of those around here.

[Draconus]

That's very tactful, light-hearted response.

I won't be playing into your hands anymore.

[Mongoose]

I did think she was civ, though. Read her posts since Daisy died, and I think there is some clarity there.

I thought she was civ, but I thought the baddies would leave her be a while since she was getting a lot of grief in the thread. I figured they'd go for someone a little more under the radar.

DP finally stuck his neck in here, but there's the WOG situation.

@ Host - what is your policy on (extremely) inactive players?

[Mongoose]

And if there is a Grand Potentate of the Civilian Faction, I think that would have to be me.

4 more years.

@ Dev - I thought that was a weird response too, but I assumed she was just kiddin'.

[Epignosis]

That's very tactful, light-hearted response.

I won't be playing into your hands anymore.

Really? A pity. You were proving to be soo good at it.

[Draconus]

Mongoose, My response was to Epi's response to me.

Linki: <insertmiddlefingerhere>

[Bass_the_Clever]

I just had a sudden change in the feeling in my gut... And it's a strong feeling, too.
I'm going with it.



I encourage everyone to look past what's happening in thread.

Bye now.

Why did you have this change of feeling?