[END] The Syndicate's 2013 Game of Champions

#901

What? I wanna edit posts tooooo, guys!

The one thing that doesn't fit for me is how You-Know-Who survived the lynch, if said person is who they appear to be.

My other thought is, now that we know who said person is, we can render them useless by not saying their name, and they may be able to win with us, or we can lynch them at any time if they become a problem. Maybe they've burned their bridges, but part of me wants to give peace a chance. More to the point, BOB is scheduled to recruit tonight, and I'd much rather he didn't. I know our odds of finding him aren't great, but I think we should try.

Epignosis wrote:
juliets wrote:Epignosis, could you elaborate as to why Rusti's vote makes you think he is good? As i understand it he was just goofing on Mongoose which doesn't strike me as being indicative of alignment.
At first all his off-topic frivolity and his subsequent vote for Mongoose (for a wacky reason) made me want to vote for him. But then I thought about it:

From my experience (having hosted him as both good and bad), Russ tends to be more invested when he has a team. The early vote for Mongoose to me says, "I may not have time for this, but I know MP well enough not to miss the vote."

Also, I hadn't seen this before my last post. So now I feel stupid for vouching for you after you vouched for me.

#902

EBWOP: Just a perfect day,
a movie, and then home.

#903

MovingPictures07 wrote:
RULES

1. No BTSC (Behind the Scenes Contact/Conversation) with anyone other than your specified BTSC partners.
2. No editing or deleting of posts.
3. No role outing of yourself or anyone else.
4. No double-targeting (targeting the same individual with a power twice in a row).
5. No disrespectful behavior.
6. Dead players should not post on-topic and should be in dead red. There is a "dead" button when posting for this function.
7. Off-topic posts should be in off-topic green. There is an "OT" button when posting for this function.
8. Posts from non-players should be in non-player blue. There is a "np" button when posting for this function.
9. This is your host's color. All host posts will be in this color. Don't use it!

And most of all, have fun!

#904

A Person wrote: I predict russti will post after me!

AP has magical thread powers! I am creeped out. Not for the first time this game, and probably not the last either.

#905

Awww, Epi! You beat me to it! I think punishments are in order.

#906

Dom wrote:Epig, now that I think about it, I'm not sure EVERYONE'S targets were messed with. I do not think SVS's kill was on accident, do you?

If OK Computer is telling the truth, then S~V~S' kill would most likely not be an accident.

#907

S~V~S wrote:We can always call you Princess Twerk.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
@ Host - What counts for any Mr. Popular roles? Do abbreviations, permutations, and derivatives count toward the tally? What about any codenames/placeholders that we would come up with in a direct attempt to subterfuge that role's power?
Yes, yes, yes, and possibly.

I think we should stop talking about the whole thing forever and just vote as we desire. I may not vote in line with the discussions we've been having, but if not it will only because I think I've found a BOB candidate, and no one's been kind enough do to anything supermegacrazysauce pingy in that regard.

#908

This is hermitage balloonery at work. Check protect simpering :

MovingPictures07 wrote:
PLAYERS

A Person
AceofSpaces
agleaminranks
bea
BigDamnHero
birdwithteeth11
blindfaeth
Boomslang
Bullzeye
Devin the Omniscient
DFaraday
DharmaHelper
DisgruntledPorcupine
Dom
Elohcin

blindfaeth wrote:
Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spend it with you
Oh, such a perfect day
You just keep me hanging on
You just keep me hanging on

MovingPictures07 wrote: birdwithteeth11

birdwithteeth11 wrote: 6

birdwithteeth11 wrote: 8

MovingPictures07 wrote: Boomslang
DFaraday

i'm not bawcock

MovingPictures07 wrote: agleaminranks
bea
BigDamnHero
DisgruntledPorcupine

blocked ripzfx consomme indisposedness them yet

submergence deoxidization idea periculous plainclothesman is not Media

#909

Not much of a case there...

RE: Russti, Yeah... I'm glad you found that again we should probably consider not using nicknames anymore, too...

#910

Devin the Omniscient wrote: Not much of a case there...

It's rusticate I'm insane, not zanified! to be a case, just uninured observation

#911

Lizzy wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote: Not much of a case there...

It's rusticate I'm insane, not zanified! to be a case, just uninured observation

So you're making an observation? What is the observation? I'm guessing it's not actually about hermitage balloonery.

Just a perfect day
Feed animals in the zoo

I'm getting sick of this song.

#912

Bullzeye wrote:
Lizzy wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote: Not much of a case there...

It's rusticate I'm insane, not zanified! to be a case, just uninured observation
So you're making an observation? What is the observation? I'm guessing it's not actually about hermitage balloonery.

Just a perfect day
Feed animals in the zoo

I'm getting sick of this song.

infliction first 15 in alphabetical supertonic?

#913

EBWOP: SOB!!!! I keep forgetting the freakin' curse!!

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spend it with you
Oh, such a perfect day
You just keep me hanging on
You just keep me hanging on

Just a perfect day
problems all left alone
Weekenders on our own
it's such fun

Just a perfect day
you made me forget myself
I thought I was
someone else, someone good

There... That should make up for it

Linki: I know you're insanified, NRM (Naked Red Monster). I was simply stating that I couldn't understand what you were getting at... In so many words.

#914

Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Epig, now that I think about it, I'm not sure EVERYONE'S targets were messed with. I do not think SVS's kill was on accident, do you?
If OK Computer is telling the truth, then S~V~S' kill would most likely not be an accident.

I totally Psionic Ninja.

#915

Mongoose wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Epig, now that I think about it, I'm not sure EVERYONE'S targets were messed with. I do not think SVS's kill was on accident, do you?
If OK Computer is telling the truth, then S~V~S' kill would most likely not be an accident.
I totally Psionic Ninja.

You totally agree?

#916

MP changed the role so that if I got an absurdly large amount of mentions, I'll get all of the powers at one time. I don't think he seriously expected me to get that much. That's why half the players are spouting Lou Reed lyrics. One of those powers is the ability to randomize all night actions, but I get to exempt three roles. As I said before, I chose myself, Zodac, and Moriarty.

My win condition is compatible with pretty much everyone elses. Including civvies, baddies, and BOBies. I don't want to completely reveal it, just to be safe with MP.

You guys have two options relating to me.

A: Vote for me, and hope that Zodac didn't choose me. If he did, he also probably chose someone major and important to eliminate. Epig, what was his win condition in Masters?

B: Don't vote for me. I walk free until the next day.

Rinse and repeat.

Do you really want to possibly sacrifice someone major and important just to get rid of me? While I'm flattered, if I were in your shoes, I'd think it wasn't worth it, mostly because as long you don't mention my name, I have no powers.

Also, wonder why I wasn't NK'd? Everyone's talking about me. I'm dominating the discussion. Leaving the thread no time to possibly sniff out baddies.

You guys have to make a decision. Vote me, hope Zodac didn't choose me, and possibly lose a big contributor to the thread. Or don't mention my name, and you guys can actually focus on catching baddies and bad indies.

#917

Is Lizzie saying that the first 15 players alphabetically - the first half of the players - have been cursed with this song curse? That's what I'm getting out of it.

#918

Zodac was last man standing.

#919

Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Epig, now that I think about it, I'm not sure EVERYONE'S targets were messed with. I do not think SVS's kill was on accident, do you?
If OK Computer is telling the truth, then S~V~S' kill would most likely not be an accident.
I totally Psionic Ninja.
You totally agree?

Indeed.

#920

juliets wrote:Is Lizzie saying that the first 15 players alphabetically - the first half of the players - have been cursed with this song curse? That's what I'm getting out of it.

Yup.

#921

juliets wrote:Is Lizzie saying that the first 15 players alphabetically - the first half of the players - have been cursed with this song curse? That's what I'm getting out of it.

The post above you says "half," so that seems to be what she's saying.

Addendum: Right.

#922

Did Dormouse recumbency NorthernBelle? Rahl a role-claim, significative.

#923

Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Epig, now that I think about it, I'm not sure EVERYONE'S targets were messed with. I do not think SVS's kill was on accident, do you?
If OK Computer is telling the truth, then S~V~S' kill would most likely not be an accident.
I totally Psionic Ninja.
You totally agree?

Svs digladiation Nev were targeted don't me in charge buddy! set INH honeytongued k

linki - I think heliogram

#924

I can never understand insane-speak.

#925

He who must not be named wrote:MP changed the role so that if I got an absurdly large amount of mentions, I'll get all of the powers at one time. I don't think he seriously expected me to get that much. That's why half the players are spouting Lou Reed lyrics. One of those powers is the ability to randomize all night actions, but I get to exempt three roles. As I said before, I chose myself, Zodac, and Moriarty.

My win condition is compatible with pretty much everyone elses. Including civvies, baddies, and BOBies. I don't want to completely reveal it, just to be safe with MP.

You guys have two options relating to me.

A: Vote for me, and hope that Zodac didn't choose me. If he did, he also probably chose someone major and important to eliminate. Epig, what was his win condition in Masters?

B: Don't vote for me. I walk free until the next day.

Rinse and repeat.

Do you really want to possibly sacrifice someone major and important just to get rid of me? While I'm flattered, if I were in your shoes, I'd think it wasn't worth it, mostly because as long you don't mention my name, I have no powers.

Also, wonder why I wasn't NK'd? Everyone's talking about me. I'm dominating the discussion. Leaving the thread no time to possibly sniff out baddies.

You guys have to make a decision. Vote me, hope Zodac didn't choose me, and possibly lose a big contributor to the thread. Or don't mention my name, and you guys can actually focus on catching baddies and bad indies.

It'd be lovely to have a powerful indy we could trust allied with the civs, but how do we know we can trust you? You're a threat to whoever you want to be a threat to and if you decide to not want the civs to win late in the game there's not much we can say against that.

Oh, such a perfect day
You just keep me hanging on

#926

you mean INSERTNAMEHERE right

*pretend my curse is here*

#927

Bullzeye wrote:
He who must not be named wrote:MP changed the role so that if I got an absurdly large amount of mentions, I'll get all of the powers at one time. I don't think he seriously expected me to get that much. That's why half the players are spouting Lou Reed lyrics. One of those powers is the ability to randomize all night actions, but I get to exempt three roles. As I said before, I chose myself, Zodac, and Moriarty.

My win condition is compatible with pretty much everyone elses. Including civvies, baddies, and BOBies. I don't want to completely reveal it, just to be safe with MP.

You guys have two options relating to me.

A: Vote for me, and hope that Zodac didn't choose me. If he did, he also probably chose someone major and important to eliminate. Epig, what was his win condition in Masters?

B: Don't vote for me. I walk free until the next day.

Rinse and repeat.

Do you really want to possibly sacrifice someone major and important just to get rid of me? While I'm flattered, if I were in your shoes, I'd think it wasn't worth it, mostly because as long you don't mention my name, I have no powers.

Also, wonder why I wasn't NK'd? Everyone's talking about me. I'm dominating the discussion. Leaving the thread no time to possibly sniff out baddies.

You guys have to make a decision. Vote me, hope Zodac didn't choose me, and possibly lose a big contributor to the thread. Or don't mention my name, and you guys can actually focus on catching baddies and bad indies.
It'd be lovely to have a powerful indy we could trust allied with the civs, but how do we know we can trust you? You're a threat to whoever you want to be a threat to and if you decide to not want the civs to win late in the game there's not much we can say against that.

Oh, such a perfect day
You just keep me hanging on

I really honestly don't have that much power. Most of it is insanification or self-preservation stuff. The only real big stuff that I have is the night actions redirect, and now that the cat's out of the bag, I doubt I'll get enough mentions to get it again.

RE: Trust
You can't really trust me. You can't really not trust me. I'll win with anyone, I just have to stay alive long enough. I harbor no ill will towards the civvies, nor do I have any incentive to screw over the civvies. Same thing with the baddie teams, and the evil indies.

#928

Lizzy wrote:
thellama73 wrote: As someone who has studied statistics a bit, I would also add that your model assumes no change in style over time unrelated to baddie or civvieness. Even if you had hundreds of games worth of data, they would have to have taken place over many years. The assumption that players will not have refined and updated their style over time is unrealistic, and I can think of no way to adequately control for time in this case.
I think this could prove to be accurate for a certain type of players. Sure, they have refined and updated their style as they gained experience, but the original patterns might still be there. Now with the looney and 'avant' type of players, I would not bet on it. Yes, this looks extremely flawed from whatever p.o.v you're looking at it, butt I'm soooooooo curious about it if it does exist.

Ok. I forgot that Lizzy said this. Rereading this post kind of makes me feel better about her. I was originally under the impression that she went All In for this idea, and I thought that was a pretty bold gamble. Not quite the case, it seems.

Back to square one for me!!!

I'll dig deeper later.

#929

A Person wrote:*pretend my curse is here*

Are you kidding me?

#930

insertnamehere wrote:
juliets wrote:Is Lizzie saying that the first 15 players alphabetically - the first half of the players - have been cursed with this song curse? That's what I'm getting out of it.
Yup.

Makes sense.

#931

insertnamehere wrote:
A Person wrote:*pretend my curse is here*
Are you kidding me?

No, insternamehere, I am not.

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spend it with insertnamehere

#932

A Person wrote:you mean INSERTNAMEHERE right

*pretend my curse is here*

Da' Fuck!?!?

#933

A Person wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
A Person wrote:*pretend my curse is here*
Are you kidding me?
No, insternamehere, I am not.

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spend it with insertnamehere

You aren't going to pull an Epignosis, are you?

#934

Don't tempt him...

#935

insertnamehere wrote:
A Person wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
A Person wrote:*pretend my curse is here*
Are you kidding me?
No, insternamehere, I am not.

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spend it with insertnamehere
You aren't going to pull an Epignosis, are you?

I already quoted his post once.

feed animals in the zoo
You just keep me hanging on

#936

juliets wrote:I am worried about the specter of Zodac in this vote today. Given how he operates I have to believe he picked Media as one of his two people last night and god knows who as his other person (thanks Epig for the explanation of the role). So, I feel better waiting to vote for Media until the 3rd day. Unfortunately, that doesn't leave me with a great candidate to vote today. I'm considering one of the VAL's but I'm not totally convinced anymore that Lizzie is bad, and I'm not sure about Vomps or A Person either.

On the other hand, maybe I'm worrying too much about Zodac. Maybe he would just kill Media and we'd be done with it. How are the rest of you feeling that are considering a vote for Media? Mongoose, I'd love to hear your thoughts but you are really constrained with respect to being able to discuss freely. Maybe you could try and I'll see if I get it. Everyone else, I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.

I am so epically far behind, but I'm going to post this now and then keep reading because I'll forget it later.

Why is it more likely that Zodac picked that guy for day 2 than it is that he is holding off for day 3? And how is it that we are so sure that Zodac has the same ability in this game as he did in his former game (He-Man, IIRC)? If the post from Epig came right at dawn and day was over, I think i'd be more on board with this but it didn't...and furthermore it was followed by an extended night to get PMs in per MP. I know not the whole next day but for a while. I guess I'd rather go with what seems like a sure thing than to shoot fish in a barrel and have a repeated day 1.

This theory just has a lot of holes in it, it seems.

#937

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:liar liar plants for hire
LOL, YES!

Remember when SoFi outed my entire baddie team in Spongebob? So awesome.

#938

A Person wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
A Person wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
A Person wrote:*pretend my curse is here*
Are you kidding me?
No, insternamehere, I am not.

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spend it with insertnamehere
You aren't going to pull an Epignosis, are you?
I already quoted his post once.

feed animals in the zoo
You just keep me hanging on

Quotes don't count.

#939

Kate wrote:
juliets wrote:I am worried about the specter of Zodac in this vote today. Given how he operates I have to believe he picked Media as one of his two people last night and god knows who as his other person (thanks Epig for the explanation of the role). So, I feel better waiting to vote for Media until the 3rd day. Unfortunately, that doesn't leave me with a great candidate to vote today. I'm considering one of the VAL's but I'm not totally convinced anymore that Lizzie is bad, and I'm not sure about Vomps or A Person either.

On the other hand, maybe I'm worrying too much about Zodac. Maybe he would just kill Media and we'd be done with it. How are the rest of you feeling that are considering a vote for Media? Mongoose, I'd love to hear your thoughts but you are really constrained with respect to being able to discuss freely. Maybe you could try and I'll see if I get it. Everyone else, I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.
I am so epically far behind, but I'm going to post this now and then keep reading because I'll forget it later.

Why is it more likely that Zodac picked that guy for day 2 than it is that he is holding off for day 3? And how is it that we are so sure that Zodac has the same ability in this game as he did in his former game (He-Man, IIRC)? If the post from Epig came right at dawn and day was over, I think i'd be more on board with this but it didn't...and furthermore it was followed by an extended night to get PMs in per MP. I know not the whole next day but for a while. I guess I'd rather go with what seems like a sure thing than to shoot fish in a barrel and have a repeated day 1.

This theory just has a lot of holes in it, it seems.

Yup. THat's how I feel. One bird in the hand is Hive Queen two porringer the bush.

#940

AP is starting to make me regret my vote for Wombatterina.

Linki dont tell him that SMF!

#941

Kate wrote:
juliets wrote:I am worried about the specter of Zodac in this vote today. Given how he operates I have to believe he picked Media as one of his two people last night and god knows who as his other person (thanks Epig for the explanation of the role). So, I feel better waiting to vote for Media until the 3rd day. Unfortunately, that doesn't leave me with a great candidate to vote today. I'm considering one of the VAL's but I'm not totally convinced anymore that Lizzie is bad, and I'm not sure about Vomps or A Person either.

On the other hand, maybe I'm worrying too much about Zodac. Maybe he would just kill Media and we'd be done with it. How are the rest of you feeling that are considering a vote for Media? Mongoose, I'd love to hear your thoughts but you are really constrained with respect to being able to discuss freely. Maybe you could try and I'll see if I get it. Everyone else, I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.
I am so epically far behind, but I'm going to post this now and then keep reading because I'll forget it later.

Why is it more likely that Zodac picked that guy for day 2 than it is that he is holding off for day 3? And how is it that we are so sure that Zodac has the same ability in this game as he did in his former game (He-Man, IIRC)? If the post from Epig came right at dawn and day was over, I think i'd be more on board with this but it didn't...and furthermore it was followed by an extended night to get PMs in per MP. I know not the whole next day but for a while. I guess I'd rather go with what seems like a sure thing than to shoot fish in a barrel and have a repeated day 1.

This theory just has a lot of holes in it, it seems.

I highly doubt that MP would just change the role into something completely different. He generally keeps a roles major powers, and alters little things about them. Zodac has to choose someone to siphon votes from everyday. Why wouldn't he choose me, the only person people have been talking about for the last 2 days? Of course, we don't know if he held off until tomorrow, but we have no way to know if he did or didn't.

#942

Kate wrote:
juliets wrote:I am worried about the specter of Zodac in this vote today. Given how he operates I have to believe he picked Media as one of his two people last night and god knows who as his other person (thanks Epig for the explanation of the role). So, I feel better waiting to vote for Media until the 3rd day. Unfortunately, that doesn't leave me with a great candidate to vote today. I'm considering one of the VAL's but I'm not totally convinced anymore that Lizzie is bad, and I'm not sure about Vomps or A Person either.

On the other hand, maybe I'm worrying too much about Zodac. Maybe he would just kill Media and we'd be done with it. How are the rest of you feeling that are considering a vote for Media? Mongoose, I'd love to hear your thoughts but you are really constrained with respect to being able to discuss freely. Maybe you could try and I'll see if I get it. Everyone else, I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.
I am so epically far behind, but I'm going to post this now and then keep reading because I'll forget it later.

Why is it more likely that Zodac picked that guy for day 2 than it is that he is holding off for day 3? And how is it that we are so sure that Zodac has the same ability in this game as he did in his former game (He-Man, IIRC)? If the post from Epig came right at dawn and day was over, I think i'd be more on board with this but it didn't...and furthermore it was followed by an extended night to get PMs in per MP. I know not the whole next day but for a while. I guess I'd rather go with what seems like a sure thing than to shoot fish in a barrel and have a repeated day 1.

This theory just has a lot of holes in it, it seems.

It's a simple choice. Vote for me, and there's a very likely chance that someone important will be killed. Or don't vote me, and move on to catching actual baddies. As long as you don't say my name, I'm pretty much powerless.

#943

I'm willing to take the chance I guess. I don't trust the person to whom I am speaking and I think this continued baloney days in a row is just going to run the game off its rails. Plus its annoying. *Votes*

I will be quiet for the next few days most likely. I dont get a lot of time to play on the weekends and we have a 3 day one coming up...and you guys talk a LOT!

#944

Kate wrote:I'm willing to take the chance I guess. I don't trust the person to whom I am speaking and I think this continued baloney days in a row is just going to run the game off its rails. Plus its annoying. *Votes*

I will be quiet for the next few days most likely. I dont get a lot of time to play on the weekends and we have a 3 day one coming up...and you guys talk a LOT!

You don't have to trust me, just look at the facts.

#945

"Facts?" What you say in the thread does not qualify as a fact to me.

#946

Kate wrote:"Facts?" What you say in the thread does not qualify as a fact to me.

Let's review.

Zodac was a role in Masters of the Universe Mafia.

His role could siphon votes from someone to someone else.

He was a LMS indie in that game.

Zodac is in this game.

He is an indie.

He most likely has that same power in this game.

Everyone has pretty much condemned me, and said that they are going to vote for me.

Unless Zodac was SVS, he's probably going to try and use this situation to his advantage.

Those were all facts.

#947

insertnamehere wrote:
Kate wrote:"Facts?" What you say in the thread does not qualify as a fact to me.
Let's review.

Zodac was a role in Masters of the Universe Mafia.

FACT

His role could siphon votes from someone to someone else.

FACT

He was a LMS indie in that game.

FACT

Zodac is in this game.

FACT

He is an indie.

FACT

He most likely has that same power in this game.

Anything that has "most likely" in it, is not a fact.

Everyone has pretty much condemned me, and said that they are going to vote for me.

OK...

Unless Zodac was SVS, he's probably going to try and use this situation to his advantage.

Not a fact.

Those were all facts.

You completely ignore that this was mentioned in the thread with hours til night end and his power could have been switched, IF THAT IS HIS POWER in this game (which is not a FACT).

#948

Kate wrote: You completely ignore that this was mentioned in the thread with hours til night end and his power could have been switched, IF THAT IS HIS POWER in this game (which is not a FACT).

I think it'd be reasonable to assume that Zodac's power is still pretty much the same as it used to be, with just a slight tweak if necessary to make it fit better in the game. I can't think of a role on the list that has drastically changed from what it first was.

Just a perfect day
Problems all left alone

I'm never going to be able to listen to this song now, I'll associate it with having to post its lyrics in this game all day.

#949

I don't know why A Person is trying to give points to someone who can use them against us. I'm not adverse to keeping someone i voted for last time alive but only if no one is trying to give away points. I am seriously thinking about an A Person vote this round. He may be trying to draw votes away from Vomps by misbehaving (he told Vomps earlier he would protect him) but his misbehavior is to our detriment. I want to vote early due to PP but I also want to be open to consideration of others before I vote.

#950

Bullzeye wrote:
Kate wrote: You completely ignore that this was mentioned in the thread with hours til night end and his power could have been switched, IF THAT IS HIS POWER in this game (which is not a FACT).
I think it'd be reasonable to assume that Zodac's power is still pretty much the same as it used to be, with just a slight tweak if necessary to make it fit better in the game. I can't think of a role on the list that has drastically changed from what it first was.

Just a perfect day
Problems all left alone

I'm never going to be able to listen to this song now, I'll associate it with having to post its lyrics in this game all day.

Maybe reasonable, but not a fact.

Who deserves to win?