Shockheaded Peter Mafia [ENDGAME]

[speedchuck]

Lol you know Australia is like a different dimension right

Oh yeah with the toilets and stuff.

You don't have toilets?

Australian toilets flush upside down.

... Bidets?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Can someone tell me why people suspect Sloonei?

reywas seems to be under the impression that I fabricated a reason to suspect him after declaring him a suspect.

It’s a weird accusation. It’s probably the best thing you’ve got going for you.

[colonialbob]

Lol you know Australia is like a different dimension right

Oh yeah with the toilets and stuff.

You don't have toilets?

Australian toilets flush upside down.

... Bidets?

I was tempted to try and find a You're the Worst gif to post here but then I remembered that would be super inappropes here

[Sloonei]

I put a vote on reywas

[Jackofhearts2005]

I put a vote on reywas

Why?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Also, use the vote tag.

[colonialbob]

I put a vote on reywas

Aubergine

[Sloonei]

I put a vote on reywas

Why?

For reasons previously expressed.

[nutella]

Ok speed responded to leetic's thing but my point stands. It's unusual for him to need a reminder and appear that reluctant/uncaring. Here is a post from Hogwarts in which he immediately responds to each point of a case I made on him, and in these two posts he eagerly invites people to engage him and give him stuff about himself to respond to.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I put a vote on reywas

Why?

For reasons previously expressed.

Why are you so unhelpful this game?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Ok speed responded to leetic's thing but my point stands. It's unusual for him to need a reminder and appear that reluctant/uncaring. Here is a post from Hogwarts in which he immediately responds to each point of a case I made on him, and in these two posts he eagerly invites people to engage him and give him stuff about himself to respond to.

Wasn’t Speed mafia in that game?

Spoiler: show

Because it was a game he was in?

Spoiler: show

But yeah, throw it on the pile.

[Sloonei]

I put a vote on reywas

Why?

For reasons previously expressed.

Why are you so unhelpful this game?

I’m not trying to be. I just don’t have as much time for the game. My posts about reywas are fairly recent in my post history. I haven’t done much since then.

I thought his end of day behavior was flat. He asked some questions of Jay that felt empty to me, and then he contributed nothing as the votes changed from speed to luna.

[colonialbob]

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] do you have anything to say about my recent posts concerning your activity?

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei do you have anything to say about my recent posts concerning your activity?

I don’t see how my stance on Jack was “tepid”. I offered a definitive stance accompanied by reasons for doubt.

When I called him tepid earlier, it was because he was repeatedly saying things that implied suspicion of me, but wasn’t going so far as to actually say he was suspicious.

The reywas stuff is a bad look because it doesn’t look like an active civilian mindset. His questions for Jay felt forced and aimless. His lack of participation afterwards felt... lacking.

[colonialbob]

Sloonei, I'd really like to hear what you think of Jack given the new information.

I thought he looked better in a few instances, but nothing locked him in as a town read. He remains on my radar, but probably not my first choice.

Hmm, this feels... what's the word...

tepid.

What's the definitive stance here?

[Sloonei]

Sloonei, I'd really like to hear what you think of Jack given the new information.

I thought he looked better in a few instances, but nothing locked him in as a town read. He remains on my radar, but probably not my first choice.

Hmm, this feels... what's the word...

tepid.

What's the definitive stance here?

Jack is still a suspect, but not as much as before

[colonialbob]

Still want somebody to talk to me about Luna/speed compatibility

[nutella]

Still want somebody to talk to me about Luna/speed compatibility

I think they're pretty compatible. They've been together a while.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Still want somebody to talk to me about Luna/speed compatibility

I’ve outlined it like three times.

[colonialbob]

Still want somebody to talk to me about Luna/speed compatibility

I’ve outlined it like three times.

Yeah but you're another suspect so

[speedchuck]

Still want somebody to talk to me about Luna/speed compatibility

I think they're pretty compatible. They've been together a while.

Started up in 2013.

[nutella]

Still want somebody to talk to me about Luna/speed compatibility

I think they're pretty compatible. They've been together a while.

Started up in 2013.

hey samesies, today is actually technically my and my bf's 6 year "dating anniversary"

[speedchuck]

Still want somebody to talk to me about Luna/speed compatibility

I think they're pretty compatible. They've been together a while.

Started up in 2013.

hey samesies, today is actually technically my and my bf's 6 year "dating anniversary"

Congrats! Ours in in October.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Happy "dating anniversary" to nutella and nutella's bf.

[colonialbob]

Happy "dating anniversary" to nutella and nutella's bf.

cheese?

[reywaS]

Bringing this forward for reference.

Nova
Me
reywas
Audrey

Who's the wolf?

Maybe Rey. Possibly Audrey. Distancing from an 8 year old who isn’t going to get lynched is cheap.

Do you think Rey/Speed is possible? It’s not as cool as Sloonei/Speed.

Audrey doesn’t have enough posts to really have antialignments.

i risk being labeled at best an asshole or at worst a scummy POS by saying this, but....what is the plan for Audrey? Is she getting a pass till endgame because she's a child? Are we just ignoring her for now or what? This is meant to take up any time or derail the thread...just a simple question because Ive been away for many moons and im legit curious how kids are treated around here. thanks. ~~~Joe joe the SuperThor

[reywaS]

My availability for this phase is going to be minimal. I apologize.

i am litcherally shocked

[leetic]

Bringing this forward for reference.

Nova
Me
reywas
Audrey

Who's the wolf?

Maybe Rey. Possibly Audrey. Distancing from an 8 year old who isn’t going to get lynched is cheap.

Do you think Rey/Speed is possible? It’s not as cool as Sloonei/Speed.

Audrey doesn’t have enough posts to really have antialignments.

i risk being labeled at best an asshole or at worst a scummy POS by saying this, but....what is the plan for Audrey? Is she getting a pass till endgame because she's a child? Are we just ignoring her for now or what? This is meant to take up any time or derail the thread...just a simple question because Ive been away for many moons and im legit curious how kids are treated around here. thanks. ~~~Joe joe the SuperThor

My plan to deal with her is to leave her alone for now, as I mentioned before there would still be one active scum even if she was scum, and if she stays inactive she may be subbed out. If we conclude at a later phase that POE indicates she is a suspect, then we can do something, but for now we should let her alone.

As for how children are usually handled... I don't know. I don't think I've played with anyone younger than 16 before this.

[reywaS]

I put a vote on reywas

Why?

For reasons previously expressed.

right...and for those that dont remember i will rehash. You assigned a tone to my questions to JJJ that was not there. You said my question "felt" unmotivated" and basically i was doing it for....what reason again? I forget what you said my motivation for that was. You are the one with the feels but zero actual evidence so I'll give you the mic back my dude.

[reywaS]

thank you leetic...like i said i didn't ask to put attention on it. I was just legit curious.

[Sloonei]

I put a vote on reywas

Why?

For reasons previously expressed.

right...and for those that dont remember i will rehash. You assigned a tone to my questions to JJJ that was not there. You said my question "felt" unmotivated" and basically i was doing it for....what reason again? I forget what you said my motivation for that was. You are the one with the feels but zero actual evidence so I'll give you the mic back my dude.

Why did you ask those questions?

[Jackofhearts2005]

At this point, I don’t even remember the questions. Quote stuff to make your points.

[colonialbob]

speedchuck

Was a wagon that could have easily been taken by scum, yet for some reason it wasn't. Let's investigate further

Spoiler: show

Am I the only one bothered by this?

[leetic]

speedchuck

Was a wagon that could have easily been taken by scum, yet for some reason it wasn't. Let's investigate further

Spoiler: show

Am I the only one bothered by this?

I don't know, what is your problem with this post? For clarification, by "scum" I was referring to Luna

[colonialbob]

speedchuck

Was a wagon that could have easily been taken by scum, yet for some reason it wasn't. Let's investigate further

Spoiler: show

Am I the only one bothered by this?

I don't know, what is your problem with this post? For clarification, by "scum" I was referring to Luna

Ah, that makes me feel substantially better.

[sabie12]

Sorry I have been at the hospital today haven't been able to participate. Glad you guys caught one of the baddies! I'll have to catch up at some point if I'm able to

Hope you're alright! When you do come back please don't feel like you have to catch up, feel free to have opinions on what's going on in the thread at the time. Of course, feel free to catch up too, if that's what you want to do.

Thanks yeah I may need some help on a synopsis of the main points of what's been going on. My doctor has given me some meds and my boyfriend has been given meds and we are working on getting better. Thanks all for understanding.

[novaselinenever]

It's been a while. I'll start working on catching up

[sabie12]

Aww man jay died RIP jjj! I liked actually getting the chance to play with you rather than just being in one of your games.

sabie12

My other big suspicion. Was townread by Luna, plus was inactive in an EOD that was going very bad for scum. But I haven't really went into too great detail with her posts, now have I? Time to fix that.

Haha you guys trying to accuse me because I said hi its gonna be a good group? I didn't have any chatter because no one was on to chat with when I was here. My accusation is nova and Jay must be teammates trying to stir the pot together and get all the suspicions off of them.

First game related post and it throws suspicion on two almost certain town players, one of which flipped. While I liked rey's post for doing something similar, this was still in the early game before everyone thought Jay was town, so it's not good in this context. Plus, it seems OMGUS-y - so far, not so good.

Haha you guys trying to accuse me because I said hi its gonna be a good group? I didn't have any chatter because no one was on to chat with when I was here. My accusation is nova and Jay must be teammates trying to stir the pot together and get all the suspicions off of them.

Nevermind Jay and Nova. Seems like they are strong-arming everyone at the door with their check-in posts. It's simply a power show.

Oh I know they're just being silly. If they can make ridiculous accusations then I'll do the same back haha

Like my other big suspicion, has a weird conversation with Luna early game. How odd. Due to this being more game related than rey's interaction with Luna though, it does not give sabie town points in the slightest.

Also sloonei usually has more to say but perhaps he's busy?

Goading inactive players. In my experience, this can be a way of making it seem like you're promoting activity without doing anything. Of course, it's not a scumtell if your posts do other things besides pinging inactives, but considering the general shallowness of sabie's posts to this point, it doesn't look good.

Haha you guys trying to accuse me because I said hi its gonna be a good group? I didn't have any chatter because no one was on to chat with when I was here. My accusation is nova and Jay must be teammates trying to stir the pot together and get all the suspicions off of them.

I'd like to come back to this. When, and what did Jay accuse you of? He simply asked me to expand my thoughts on you. He has you as green in his rainbow list.

Also, what do you mean by "get all the suspicions off of them"? Has there been any suspicion on any of us to begin with at that time?

Do you actually believe that we are scum teammates?

You guys came out guns blazing with random facetious arguments based on one sentence posts. So I just said you guys were stirring the pot to get conversation going which you did. You guys made silly arguments so I did too.

Backtracking when it seems she may be getting in trouble. Why am I constantly getting flashbacks to my post on rey?

Why is nova voting me? With no explanation no less. Uncool man.
Sloonei isn't acting like his usual self. Typically he has mile long posts.

All of his posts early game, save the Luna interaction, were focused on three people: nova, JJJ, and Sloonei. So we can add tunneling to the mix.

Was largely inactive for the next part of the phase, citing a flu infection. Then,

Going with speed for now. He seemed more sketchy to me. For some reason I thought today was end of poll but yes tomorrow. Gonna go sleep forever and try to get better.

Despite this she never voiced any suspicions against speedchuck before. Seems she was going along with what everyone else was saying.

So basically, all the reasons I suspect rey but even more scummy and lacking some of the towny features rey has shown. So yeah, [VOTE: sabie12] aubergine, though I still want reywaS to respond to my post

I think its funny that you're taking all this time to delve so deeply into my stupid random posts. I was attempting to chat and joke around but apparently that's taken the wrong way. I just haven't been around because of health issues with my boyfriend and I. My laziness so to speak is due to a lot of personal issues. You haven't played with me before so you haven't learned that I'm always kinda blah and don't talk much. I don't even remember interacting with Luna so don't take that too seriously.

Also I'm a girl.


Also, I see there's still some suspicions on speed which is who I voted for before. I know I didnt come up with a big long explanation of why I found him suspicious I don't write long explanations usually but I can attempt.

[sabie12]

My availability for this phase is going to be minimal. I apologize.

i am litcherally shocked

Good thing epi isn't playing

Sloonei is a lot less talkative this game. Not dissing low posting because I am a low poster this game just saying it's not his norm. But I can attest to firsthand how real life impacts this game.

Also idk about audrey. I actually always thought you had to be 18 to play on here but I guess there is no age limits. I guess ultimately we'd have to treat her as any other player.

[nutella]

We have played with other kids on the site, Simon and Tink/Abigail (epi and eloh's kids, ages... 11 and 8-9 I think?) We don't really give them passes in that we have lynched them for having poor vote records/interactions with scum/etc, but we don't expect a lot out of them content wise.

[leetic]

I'm unlikely to have much activity tomorrow, as I will be attending a concert for my birthday. Thus, I'm gonna have to get stuff done right now. Jack is certainly suspicious, but I'm not sure if I'll have the time to analyze his over 170 posts right now, plus I feel the next flip will say a lot about him. So how 'bout I look at another name that has been making waves in this thread recently. Of course, I am referring to

Sloonei

I am not presently trying to hard.

Early joke posting. Moving on.

Why is nova voting me? With no explanation no less. Uncool man.
Sloonei isn't acting like his usual self. Typically he has mile long posts.

You're putting me on the spot here.

It stroke me as weirdly succinct on first read, and I compared it to some of her entry posts in previous games. I have no data on baddie Sabie, however her Civilian self usually starts the game with some chatter. She feels comfortable, and appears easy going.

She comes offcold here, or timid I'd say. Right to the point. I don't care much as well for the general compliment, and the addition of an emoji. Probably an attempt at appearing more friendly.

Him and nova are lovers apparently or teammates

Can't we be just two townies trying to solve the game?

I mean we don't even share the same read on you, I don't know why you keep throwing shade our way and grouping us together as an evil plotting duo.

Haha you guys trying to accuse me because I said hi its gonna be a good group? I didn't have any chatter because no one was on to chat with when I was here. My accusation is nova and Jay must be teammates trying to stir the pot together and get all the suspicions off of them.

I'd like to come back to this. When, and what did Jay accuse you of? He simply asked me to expand my thoughts on you. He has you as green in his rainbow list.

Also, what do you mean by "get all the suspicions off of them"? Has there been any suspicion on any of us to begin with at that time?

Do you actually believe that we are scum teammates?

I personally just mislynched Sabie for doing this.

260+ posts in and this is his first game related post. With this in mind, a Sabie flip could tell a lot about him.

[VOTE: Jack O’Farts] aubergine

In solidarity with my brother Bob from the colonies.

Voting Jack fairly early on, gives a bit of a reason in an earlier post but not one that makes much sense. Following a likely town player here.

[VOTE: Jack O’Farts] aubergine

In solidarity with my brother Bob from the colonies.

Why?

I’m not sure.

Is that the "I guess I'll place a vote wherever" kind of not sure, or the "I find Jack suspicious but would struggle to articulate why" kind of not sure?

B

I don't know, I've had difficulty reading and analyzing him so far and it's largely due to posts like this. Maybe that's his strategy, to hide in the background and not provoke any major conflicts. Seems a strategy more likely to be followed if scum than if town.

I get more of an absentee vibe from speedchuck’s posts than a foot-dragging vibe, but I myself was absent for most of the day so I might be missing the immediacy of his contributions.

See what I mean about every suspicious user seeming like they could easily be scumbuddies with speedchuck?

[VOTE: reywas] aubergine

Then changes his vote to a user who he didn't talk about at all, while he at least had a few posts about Jack. When asked by JJJ to clarify, he doesn't respond.

i feel pretty good about Triple J now, so i'll remove him from my mafia read list. His posts are all very thoughtful and insightful....and they all seem to be a legit effort at finding the evil among us.

Yes, tell us more, sloonei. I'm all eyes....or ears if you decide to use vocarooooni

Whuch end of the spectrum was I on in your 4-person list?

His first real interaction with rey, and it's just a question. For more information about my thoughts on rey's behavior here, see my wallpost on him. Still, seems like an OMGUS if that's the reason why Sloonei voted him (and with his lack of other content, there's little reason to assume it wasn't)

i feel pretty good about Triple J now, so i'll remove him from my mafia read list. His posts are all very thoughtful and insightful....and they all seem to be a legit effort at finding the evil among us.

Yes, tell us more, sloonei. I'm all eyes....or ears if you decide to use vocarooooni

Whuch end of the spectrum was I on in your 4-person list?

I left the puzzle key right there in my post. *sighs*

I have you in the "don't wanna lynch at the moment" end of the spectrum.

Why the heck not?

because I needed 2 names and i hadn't made a crazy face at any of your posts yet.

But I spent like 24 hours goofing around and avoiding meaningful discussion altogether.

Yeah, that defense totally makes you look towny. Still, a bit ballsy for scum to admit they weren't doing anything productive.

reywaS, please tell me how you feel about Jack.

He's on my would lynch list....which now only includes him. His posts give me lots of stank eye

linkitits (giggity) why are you so interested in how i'm reading you then, sloondog?

I wanted you to provide a read which was an actual stance, and not one which is just the absence of a stance.

One thing that does not look good for him, however, is how defensive he got over a simple GTH. I mean, the whole point of a GTH is it's not based on too much information, and going after him for a minor thing like that just doesn't sit too well with me.

Voted for jack again

whyzzat

Same reasons as before. I just had some buttons to push with regards to reywas.

Well, if it was a pressure vote, his actions make more sense, still I don't like how he waited this long to explain his intentions.

Jackofhearts2005 In the Sockys game I argued that sabie was mafia at lylo in part because she’d responded to all accusations with some form of “I don’t know why people are accusing me.” We mislynched her and speedchuck hopscotched away with a dirty scum win.

Lol didn’t ya’ll know Speedchuck is always mafia?

Sabie did

And now we have a few more minor, barely contributing posts from him. They're not necessarily scummy, but they do not give him town points either.

After that we have interactions with Jack, I think that a Jack/Sloonei scumteam is unlikely as these two players seem dedicated in their opposition to each other.

Sloonei, tell me about speedchuck immediately.

I haven’t paid much attention to him. My focus generally has been fairly limited. I never got the impression that I was under pressure at any point, so I would agree that it’s strange of him to award me townie points for the way I handled pressure. I commented in my initial flurry of posts that he seemed absent, which is NAI. I have not looked closely at him since then.

A bit more of avoiding the speedchuck question. Seems a little weird for him to be paying little attention to who was at the time the most likely lynch option, though. I feel that if speedchuck flips town, then Sloonei would be unlikely to be scum.

I am on my phone and don’t feel like navigating the perils of a multi-quote post, but reywas’s mini interrogation of Jay seemed a little unmotivated. He was asking questions, but I didn’t get the impression he was really invested in the answers. His “what will people think if...” census felt particularly aimless.

Also, this was his contribution as the vote change whacke-iness was unfolding:

what a weird day 1

Not the best look.

After the flip, he switches from being super focused on Jack to being super focused on reywaS. Was it due to Jack's presence on the Luna wagon, or some other reason...?

Most of his recent stuff just follows from this, and has mostly been addressed.

Overall? Still not sure how to read him. Not much really stands out as scummy, but nothing really stands out as towny either. At least his interactions with other people means that he'll be easier to read if certain people flip.

[leetic]

Since I might not be here for EOD, I'll do this now: [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine. He's interacted so far with basically every other person on my suspect lists, and all to some degree of scummyness. The EOD situation on D1 doesn't particularly look in his favor either, and his responses to my suspicions have been... not the best. My sabie vote accomplished one of its main goals in putting pressure on sabie anyway.

[sabie12]

Since I might not be here for EOD, I'll do this now: [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine. He's interacted so far with basically every other person on my suspect lists, and all to some degree of scummyness. The EOD situation on D1 doesn't particularly look in his favor either, and his responses to my suspicions have been... not the best. My sabie vote accomplished one of its main goals in putting pressure on sabie anyway.

I didn't think he had great responses either. He did vote Luna but I know baddies have done that in the past for self preservation and to hide the fact that they're bad especially if it seems like there's no hope of it turning around. There were some votes on jack too though but if he is bad and knew Luna would flip bad perhaps he wanted to make himself look good by voting her. Jack has been very anti speed so idk if it's possible they could both be bad unless hack changes his mind at the last second. Hmmm idk.Just throwing out some thoughts. Sorry if this discussion has already happened and I missed it.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I like where the votes are but only 4 votes halfway through the day is pretty meh.

Linki: Hi Sabie. Feel better!

[Sloonei]

[mention]leetic[/mention]’s ISO of me looks very good and I think it reflects an honest attempt to figure me out. I’ve not been easy this game. But I do want to correct a single issue: in my initial interaction with reywas, he had me as a town read in his GTH read. I was uncertain of this initially because of the ambiguity in his wording, but my posture in the ensuing conversation was not a defensive one. I was the aggressor there, trying to make reywas explain why he had a town read on a particular player. That player happened to be me.

I’m still in my phone and still don’t feel like digging up quotes.

[colonialbob]

Going to be out of pocket during EoD so I'll try to put in some work this morning.

For now [VOTE: reywas] aubergine

[colonialbob]

speedchuck
nutella
colonialbob
novaselinenever
reywaS
AudreyTheTattleTail

Elohcin
Jackofhearts2005
leetic
Sloonei
sabie12

lol @ me

Why are reywaS removed and leetic included?

Reywas is removed because I've had good feels from him all game. I like the way he's responded to suspicion. Though Leetic's recent point about the Jack/Luna balance is important to keep in mind as well.

I liked Nova's post about Leetic and think it needs to be looked into.

What have you liked about how rey has responded to suspicion?

[colonialbob]

[mention]nutella[/mention]
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]
[mention]leetic[/mention]

Pretend speedchuck was removed from the poll. Who are you voting for?

[colonialbob]

[mention]AudreyTheTattletail[/mention]
[mention]Elohcin[/mention]
[mention]novaselinenever[/mention]
[mention]nutella[/mention]
[mention]sabie12[/mention]

Where are your heads at? Who are you considering voting for?

[leetic]

@nutella
@Jackofhearts2005
@leetic

Pretend speedchuck was removed from the poll. Who are you voting for?

Likely sabie, for reasons already expressed.