Gossip Girl Mafia [GAME OVER]

[reywaS]

aint nobody dope as me i'm just so fresh so clean

Wanna be in my rag tag duo for this game? We can have such an adventure.

im listening

[Mongoose]

aint nobody dope as me i'm just so fresh so clean

All right listen Reywas 3000. What do you think of your fellow...fellows in here?

my temporary positions are quite clear tyvm

That's the biggest punt since Stephen Gostkowski... did a thing with the football.

[reywaS]

at least you got the right member of outkast right....

mongoose is civ now

[nutella]

Lol mong and mac are hilarious

[Elohcin]

Mac - I'm not a mind reader and therefore don't know what you're saying in BTSC.

Boy oh boy, I have missed me some mongoose. This is good right here.

[Matahari]

You're gonna have to do more than that.

Sorry, I missed this. Do more than what? Are you saying I should agree or disagree with his suspicion of Indigo?

I want to know what your actual thoughts are. I have no idea what you meant especially after the further complicating discussion of what "I like what you think" means or not. I want your opinions independent of Jay's posts.

Did you read the part where I said I don’t form opinions this early in the game?

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

I can't Jay. I'm always wrong about Nutella. Always. I've given up on ever reading her.

Can you explain what Jay does that you can't do?

Also, self-fulfilling prophecy, if you don't try, how will you get better?

I'm reading between the lines here. I think you're saying that what Jay does is a good thing.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Mac - I'm not a mind reader and therefore don't know what you're saying in BTSC.

Also, can someone remind me what BTSC means? I saw it in the opening. I assume it means some sort of chat as she mentions it being a link. I just wish I knew what the acronym stood for.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Hi everyone - I don't know this show but I'll do the best I can! Also happy to be here for dunya's first game.

slight town vibe as she's not using the show as an excuse

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Too late. I've already performed the calculations.

What do your calculations usually consist of? (or is this a joke that I accidentally read into?)

[Mongoose]

Mac - I'm not a mind reader and therefore don't know what you're saying in BTSC.

Also, can someone remind me what BTSC means? I saw it in the opening. I assume it means some sort of chat as she mentions it being a link. I just wish I knew what the acronym stood for.

Hi there! BTSC = Behind the Scenes Chat

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

I'm here and feeling very put upon if you know what I mean.

But seriously! Glad to be back. It's been ages since I played a non-burglary game around here. I have long hours on week days, so bear with me.

I feel bad. I didn't realize that you were a female Mongoose until this moment. I have weird hours, mostly like the afternoon to evening shift hours. I don't think I'll be around for end of day most days. I'll probably be posting around this time most days.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Hi there! BTSC = Behind the Scenes Chat

Okay thanks a bunch, I'll try to memorize that now so that I don't have to ask again later.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Good: juliets, Elohcin, Spacedaisy

Bad: nutella, Mongoose

Can you explain why the nutella is particularly bad? Do they taste funny or is the date overdue?

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

JJJ - white dude prick

All the ladies - fabulous

mac claimed to be sexy idk if he's also a lady or if he falls in between all the ladies and the white dude prick.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

I didn’t watch this show but I did watch Pretty Little Liars. Are they similar?

kind of, I think I would have to watch Gossip Girls again to give a good description about it

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

I'm not sure if it would be better for me to just make one big post, or if these little responses are fine. I guess on some sites I've gotten complaints when I've done bigger posts, so I guess it kind of depends on how many phone users we have on this site.

[Matahari]

Mongoose mafia

I already did that, it was called Felt.

U r maf

I am tending to agree so far. I feel worse about Mata though. That whole "I like how you think" thing was just weird. I don't understand how she thinks it's worthwhile to say that if she doesn't mean she agrees with Jay, and I find it hard to believe she didn't think it would be taken that way. It was an unnecessary post that she unnecessarily backpedaled on, and all the while she could have been forming original reads instead.

It appears that you and Luna both think the same way. Let me ask you this, since the concept of liking the way a person arrives at a conclusion without necessarily agreeing with that conclusion is difficult to grasp, do you believe there is more than one way to achieve a goal?
If someone says “This is how I wash a window. This is the only right way.” Would you agree with them? Or would you think, hmm, that’s not how I wash windows, and my windows are clean.
If someone thinks a situation through, and explains their thought process (whether I agree with them or not), it may or may not be the same way I would think it through, but I can still appreciate their reasoning. I’m not going to say they have to think the same way that I think.

So, with that thought covered, I’ll now voice an opinion, although it is apt to change. I frequently find people who are aggressive on day zero and day one, to be bad. At this early point in the game, I’m looking at the aggressive people.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

What's the best party you ever went to? My kickball team used to throw these epic holiday parties when we still played.

One of my friends does theme birthday parties. I've been to a Disney themed birthday party; I went as Anna from Frozen. There was also a Spy themed party. The pasta parties before a Track or XC meet were pretty epic in high school. It's hard to decide just one.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

Luna bad

I knew you would say this because your snap judgments are highly predictable

Too easy. Probably as wrong about her as you are about me. And perhaps maliciously so.

Why is that "too easy", any more than calling her "good" would be? Fake post. You're my top suspect.

I don't know if I would call it fake, but it's really early in the game.

[MacDougall]

Mongoose bad

[nutella]

Mongoose mafia

I already did that, it was called Felt.

U r maf

I am tending to agree so far. I feel worse about Mata though. That whole "I like how you think" thing was just weird. I don't understand how she thinks it's worthwhile to say that if she doesn't mean she agrees with Jay, and I find it hard to believe she didn't think it would be taken that way. It was an unnecessary post that she unnecessarily backpedaled on, and all the while she could have been forming original reads instead.

It appears that you and Luna both think the same way. Let me ask you this, since the concept of liking the way a person arrives at a conclusion without necessarily agreeing with that conclusion is difficult to grasp, do you believe there is more than one way to achieve a goal?
If someone says “This is how I wash a window. This is the only right way.” Would you agree with them? Or would you think, hmm, that’s not how I wash windows, and my windows are clean.
If someone thinks a situation through, and explains their thought process (whether I agree with them or not), it may or may not be the same way I would think it through, but I can still appreciate their reasoning. I’m not going to say they have to think the same way that I think.

So, with that thought covered, I’ll now voice an opinion, although it is apt to change. I frequently find people who are aggressive on day zero and day one, to be bad. At this early point in the game, I’m looking at the aggressive people.

This argument has been taken too far and too literally. Of course I understand that it's possible to like the way someone thinks without agreeing with their conclusion. That's not my problem. My problem is how you used that phrase to mean that literally when it is often interpreted in casual conversation to mean agreement, and somehow you didn't dispel the natural implicature and freaked out when people drew that conclusion from your statement. Maybe this is just a cultural/idiolectal difference between us but the way you are increasingly logicking your way out of this argument is giving me bad vibes.

[VOTE: matahari] aubergine

[nutella]

Excellent. I like the way you think.

Is this to imply you agree with my take on indiglo?

Not necessarily. Liking the way you think isn’t the same as agreeing with how you think. It’s too early for me to decide whether someone is bad or not.

Matahari, usually when someone says, "I like the way you think," it means "I agree with your thought process." I have never been told "I like the way you think" followed with, "but I disagree with you."

Just saying this feels like a strange backwards progression in response to Jay's question. Was there something else Jay said that you agree with other than his indiglo suspicion?

In my case, it means I like the way he explained his thought process. I don’t have to agree with his or anyone’s conclusions, but it is nice to see how they arrived at those conclusions.
But I am not usual

Have we played together before? If not, it’s nice to meet you.

Like, this makes sense, but it seems like you could have made it more clear that you weren't necessarily agreeing with him.

[nutella]

And I guess you did clear it up in the previous post in response to Jay, but the original post just sounded so enthusiastic about it. Idk it was weird.

[Matahari]

And I guess you did clear it up in the previous post in response to Jay, but the original post just sounded so enthusiastic about it. Idk it was weird.

That’s okay, I don’t mind getting voted. It’s been a long time since I played, but you might remember me as someone who never explains things well, that hasn’t changed lol.
I remember you as someone who was always on the offense early in games, and it was never indicative of being town or mafia.
Can you tell me what you think about JJJ? His making snap decisions, and naming off a variety of players, is that a diversionary tactic that mafia would use? Or is it him just being silly?

[Matahari]

Let me rephrase that. Is that a diversionary tactic that JJJ (as mafia) would use?

[nutella]

I don't like "is that a thing x would do as mafia" questions a ton, but it could be. Could also be civ jay flinging poo to see what sticks.

[nutella]

I got a more fake vibe from it than I have gotten from civ jay poo-flinging in other games though. Like it was more forced than usual and I feel like he usually tries to generate more varied/interesting content at the beginning of d1 than just "Z bad, Y bad, X good" for several posts.

[Matahari]

I got a more fake vibe from it than I have gotten from civ jay poo-flinging in other games though. Like it was more forced than usual and I feel like he usually tries to generate more varied/interesting content at the beginning of d1 than just "Z bad, Y bad, X good" for several posts.

Thank you for your input. I haven’t been taking any of the day 0 and 1 posts seriously, I thought it was joking all around. But I’ll try to post my first impression thoughts tomorrow.

[MacDougall]

aint nobody dope as me i'm just so fresh so clean

Wanna be in my rag tag duo for this game? We can have such an adventure.

im listening

Kiss me you bitch

[reywaS]

I'm not sure if it would be better for me to just make one big post, or if these little responses are fine. I guess on some sites I've gotten complaints when I've done bigger posts, so I guess it kind of depends on how many phone users we have on this site.

i like the steam of consciousness posting personally. That's how I roll. I'd rather see many small posts than 15 paragraph novels. But that's me.

[juliets]

Good morning [mention]Elohcin[/mention] , I checked the votes and was surprised to see you voted for Mac. I also checked your ISO but didn't see a reason. Can you explain your thoughts there?

And good morning [mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention] I also don't mind your small posts. It's easier for me to digest someone's thoughts when they are given a bit at a time.

[juliets]

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] you seem awfully quite in this game as compared to the other games you have been in recently or now. This gives me the heebie jeebies. Why so quiet and is nutella still your leading candidate for lynch?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@JaggedJimmyJay you seem awfully quite in this game as compared to the other games you have been in recently or now. This gives me the heebie jeebies. Why so quiet and is nutella still your leading candidate for lynch?

I am focused on the other game right now. This one will get its turn. I don’t think I will vote for nutella.

[juliets]

@JaggedJimmyJay you seem awfully quite in this game as compared to the other games you have been in recently or now. This gives me the heebie jeebies. Why so quiet and is nutella still your leading candidate for lynch?

I am focused on the other game right now. This one will get its turn. I don’t think I will vote for nutella.

OK, fair enough.

[indiglo]

Personally, I'm liking Mata's posts. No creepy vibes from her.

@JaggedJimmyJay you seem awfully quite in this game as compared to the other games you have been in recently or now. This gives me the heebie jeebies. Why so quiet and is nutella still your leading candidate for lynch?

Wow, if this is 3J quiet...
I felt like he dominated the thread Day 0, and with all the poo flinging from him it was difficult to hear from anyone else enough to form an opinion.

[Mongoose]

Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles? I’ve been to AWOL to know.

[indiglo]

Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles? I’ve been to AWOL to know.

Here's a helpful answer: I've been gone for a few years, so I have no idea.


Further thoughts on my previous post:

I just disliked the way it was 3J trying to guide / run the day's conversations. I know from past experience he has a tendency to do that, however it did make it hard for me to form opinions on others, because it felt like he was the ring master. I don't want to look to anyone else to tell me how to feel, or "create content" or direct the thread, or lead discussion. Makes it too easy for others to just sit back and watch, if that makes sense.

[juliets]

Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles? I’ve been to AWOL to know.

I don't see any gross anomalies except Jay which I covered earlier but I accept his explanation for his quietness today while he focuses on the other game. ( [mention]indiglo[/mention] keep in mind I am comparing him to his other recent and current game). I don't have a good base for judging you and Mata because I haven't played with you recently. The problem is so many people have mastered the art of posting in the same style regardless of alignment.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Further thoughts on my previous post:

I just disliked the way it was 3J trying to guide / run the day's conversations. I know from past experience he has a tendency to do that, however it did make it hard for me to form opinions on others, because it felt like he was the ring master. I don't want to look to anyone else to tell me how to feel, or "create content" or direct the thread, or lead discussion. Makes it too easy for others to just sit back and watch, if that makes sense.

Does your "dislike" imply that you suspect me for my Day 0 behavior?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I got a more fake vibe from it than I have gotten from civ jay poo-flinging in other games though. Like it was more forced than usual and I feel like he usually tries to generate more varied/interesting content at the beginning of d1 than just "Z bad, Y bad, X good" for several posts.

This thread is where it is right now because of my stupid poo flinging. You could trace back much of the game-relevant content right now to the soul reads provided by either Mac or myself.

You're welcome.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Good: juliets, Elohcin, Spacedaisy

Bad: nutella, Mongoose

Can you explain why the nutella is particularly bad? Do they taste funny or is the date overdue?

nutella seems fine. juliets asked me the same thing and I answered here. Also, given that the Buscemi reference was unclear, allow me to elaborate.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles? I’ve been to AWOL to know.

That's an advantage. Who cares about what's typical? Tell me what you feel in your heart.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I suspect indiglo but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.

[Mongoose]

Is everyone else seemingly being their typical selves playstyles? I’ve been to AWOL to know.

That's an advantage. Who cares about what's typical? Tell me what you feel in your heart.

That might not be a bad sentiment. On the other hand, my proclivities historically to scrutinize overly aggressive behavior (which was also said previously and more eloquently by Matahari - hi, by the way, it’s so nice to see you), but that might not be fair to those with their tester one set to Turbo.

[Lunalee]

Excellent. I like the way you think.

Is this to imply you agree with my take on indiglo?

Not necessarily. Liking the way you think isn’t the same as agreeing with how you think. It’s too early for me to decide whether someone is bad or not.

Matahari, usually when someone says, "I like the way you think," it means "I agree with your thought process." I have never been told "I like the way you think" followed with, "but I disagree with you."

Just saying this feels like a strange backwards progression in response to Jay's question. Was there something else Jay said that you agree with other than his indiglo suspicion?

In my case, it means I like the way he explained his thought process. I don’t have to agree with his or anyone’s conclusions, but it is nice to see how they arrived at those conclusions.
But I am not usual

Have we played together before? If not, it’s nice to meet you.

I don't believe we have played together before. Nice to meet you Matahari! I've been playing online mafia here for about a year.

[indiglo]

I suspect indiglo but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.

What is your exact reason for suspecting me? Because I make jokes?

[indiglo]

Further thoughts on my previous post:

I just disliked the way it was 3J trying to guide / run the day's conversations. I know from past experience he has a tendency to do that, however it did make it hard for me to form opinions on others, because it felt like he was the ring master. I don't want to look to anyone else to tell me how to feel, or "create content" or direct the thread, or lead discussion. Makes it too easy for others to just sit back and watch, if that makes sense.

Does your "dislike" imply that you suspect me for my Day 0 behavior?

I'm still deciding. But I think it's unhelpful either way, a point on which we clearly inherently disagree.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I suspect indiglo but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.

What is your exact reason for suspecting me? Because I make jokes?

That discredit up there where you "dislike" my Day 0 approach or whatever because it "made it harder to read other people's opinions". That looks quite fake to me.

[indiglo]

I suspect indiglo but I don't wanna lynch her in her first game back in a long time.

What is your exact reason for suspecting me? Because I make jokes?

That discredit up there where you "dislike" my Day 0 approach or whatever because it "made it harder to read other people's opinions". That looks quite fake to me.

It's quite genuine. If that is your play style, obviously you like it. But I shall attempt to explain my thought process as best I can.

When 1 player becomes the driving force of the thread, most people posting are responding to that player. What I have found helpful during your absence was seeing players (2 in particular were nutella and Mata) interact with each other. When you and nutella, for example, were having that back-and-forth, obviously nutella was getting frustrated with some of the things you were saying. It's hard for me to get a read off someone if they are genuinely frustrated. All I can see is their frustration and annoyance with the person they're going back-and-forth with.

Once I saw nutella interacting with other players (like Mata, for example), she was able to express herself differently, and I felt like I got a better look at her current playstyle, rather than her frustration with 3J. Plus, I was able to see Mata expressing herself in the discussion, which I also found helpful in forming an opinion on her.

You, obviously, are free to play how you see fit. I am free to form opinions about that playstyle when I am involved in the game as well.