[END] The Syndicate's 2013 Game of Champions

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bea plz

[Hedgeowl]

So, I don't have time to properly catch up. As such I threw a vote on Hedge in order to spread it a bit.

That's what I get for telling MP to get you?

RIP DP! Sorry to see you were in fact a civ, but not terribly surprised. RIpiywg FH! Looks like #17 was the choice, so we have had 11 and 17 so far as PP picks.

As for who to rezz, I am definitely leaning Lizzy. (Although a little conformity from Vomps was new. )

We did a good job of voting people different from the day before, so it will be interesting what happens this evening.

[Mongoose]

Voted people who are/seem civ AND will show back up and participate.

[Epignosis]

Voted for Dom and OK Computer.

[Hedgeowl]

Voted for Dom and OK Computer.

Also, we have 3 votes.

I voted for Lizzy, FH, and SVS.

[bea]

lol epi.

also - yea. I don't see anything changing my reasoning.

I'm sorry he who shall not be named for ridiculously not named reasons....

but I have better feels for svs and kate.
Your random is just too random for me atm.

I'm just going to vote this poll. I can't see anything changing my mind.

[insertnamehere]

plz

[DharmaHelper]

Submitted my votes.

[Epignosis]

I am going with Lizzy, Kate, and S~V~S.

[DharmaHelper]

For those curious: I went with Lizzy for obvious reasons, then FH because she was most recently offed for one, she was killed by the piranha plant for two, and because I like her more than the other dead options for three. I also went with INH as my second dead option because fuck it.

[Tangrowth]

Oh, and, FYI I will be busy with friends tomorrow evening, so I won't be able to put up the night post when this period ends. So, the post will either be up sometime later in the evening, or sometime on Sunday. I won't be extending the Night period for simplicity reasons though. Sorry for the inconvenience!

[bea]

For those curious: I went with Lizzy for obvious reasons, then FH because she was most recently offed for one, she was killed by the piranha plant for two, and because I like her more than the other dead options for three. I also went with INH as my second dead option because fuck it.

lol - I can see your FH vote. TBH - if I could have had 3 she would have been my third. I'm ok with seeing her as much as I am Kate and SVS.

And yea - I can see the "fuck it" option as well.

linki - it's all good socky.

[Hedgeowl]

For those curious: I went with Lizzy for obvious reasons, then FH because she was most recently offed for one, she was killed by the piranha plant for two, and because I like her more than the other dead options for three. I also went with INH as my second dead option because fuck it.

lol - I can see your FH vote. TBH - if I could have had 3 she would have been my third. I'm ok with seeing her as much as I am Kate and SVS.

And yea - I can see the "fuck it" option as well.

linki - it's all good socky.

Bea, I am going to blow your mind. You have a third vote!

[DisgruntledPorcupine]

lol

[Hedgeowl]

For those curious: I went with Lizzy for obvious reasons, then FH because she was most recently offed for one, she was killed by the piranha plant for two, and because I like her more than the other dead options for three. I also went with INH as my second dead option because fuck it.

lol - I can see your FH vote. TBH - if I could have had 3 she would have been my third. I'm ok with seeing her as much as I am Kate and SVS.

And yea - I can see the "fuck it" option as well.

linki - it's all good socky.

Bea, I am going to blow your mind. You have a third vote!

you meant in group 2 didn't you? Should have looked at your votes first.

Bed time

[thellama73]

I agree with bea re: SVS and Kate. Flyin' High was my third choice.

[Spacedaisy]

Lizzy, Kate and SVS

[Nevinera]

Kizzy is the obvious choice for the lynched Rez.
I'm going with SVS and FH - I have nothing logical to go on, but they both seem like safe choices.

[Russtifinko]

RIP, FH and DP! Sorry I was wrong about you, DP.

I find it kinda funny that all of the people I suspected voted for Epig

Interesting point devin - here's the thing with the Epi voters:

there's really been no case made against epi this phase. Like at all. It's picking something that was waaaaaay ages ago (his repetition of he who shall not be named's name.) and his lack of perceived punishment for it. I'd much rather see, you know, a case on epi.

This is a really interesting point, to me. Did it also seem to you guys that the Epi "case" was kind of a party line? Like, people all saying the same thing but in their own words, as if it were pre-planned? I'm not saying I think everyone who voted Epi is on the same team, that would be monumentally stupid. Just that the thoughts on the case weren't super original.

I'll be keeping a eye there for sure.

I think I'll vote AP, Dom, and INH to come back. FH, S~V~S, and Lizzy, though, for realz.

[Russtifinko]

Also, who is this person ----------------------- and why do they get to be on the poll twice? I wanna be on a rezz poll twice if I die! :P

[Flyin' High]

[Epignosis]

I refuse to bring back plant food.

[BigDamnHero]

don't know if it's been brought up yet, but let's not forget about this baddie role:

Catherine Martell - [Twin Peaks] – Owner of the Packard Mill, and the wife of Pete. Also having an affair with Ben. Can control what role she is shown as when lynched.

That little power makes this whole rezzing kinda dicey. If we rez someone who was lynched, we won't know if we are bringing back a civ or baddie, whereas if we bring back someone who WAS lynched and had their identity revealed, there's an outside chance we're rezzing a baddie.

[BigDamnHero]

Does anyone out there doubt the revealed identities of any of the lynched players?

[Epignosis]

Does anyone out there doubt the revealed identities of any of the lynched players?

I 100% believe Lizzy was in fact Mycroft. That makes so much sense.

As for the others lynched ones, they're not getting any votes anyway.

[BigDamnHero]

Does anyone out there doubt the revealed identities of any of the lynched players?

I 100% believe Lizzy was in fact Mycroft. That makes so much sense.

As for the others lynched ones, they're not getting any votes anyway.

What I still don't get is how did Mycroft kill someone when his role has no secrets and no NK abilities.

[Epignosis]

Does anyone out there doubt the revealed identities of any of the lynched players?

I 100% believe Lizzy was in fact Mycroft. That makes so much sense.

As for the others lynched ones, they're not getting any votes anyway.

What I still don't get is how did Mycroft kill someone when his role has no secrets and no NK abilities.

There are possibilities. Right now I can think of two.

[Mongoose]

Does anyone out there doubt the revealed identities of any of the lynched players?

Well crap on a croissant. I thought about that earlier in the game but failed to apply it here. Honestly, we don't know who Kate, FH, or SVS are, so I think picking any 3 out of them is as safe as we are going to get.

linki - Egip - Indeed. And why she tried to erroneously help out OK Computer.

[bea]

don't know if it's been brought up yet, but let's not forget about this baddie role:

Catherine Martell - [Twin Peaks] – Owner of the Packard Mill, and the wife of Pete. Also having an affair with Ben. Can control what role she is shown as when lynched.

That little power makes this whole rezzing kinda dicey. If we rez someone who was lynched, we won't know if we are bringing back a civ or baddie, whereas if we bring back someone who WAS lynched and had their identity revealed, there's an outside chance we're rezzing a baddie.

tbh - I almost brought this up when lizzy was lynched. But then I remembered the "Sawyer's favorite people" game on RM where Rouge had a similar power and lynch after civ lynch was justified based on the fact that "well - it could have been Rouge" including my own.

I didn't want to add fuel to my already increasing fire. I'm glad you brought it up - but in the end, I don't think it applies to lizzy. I see her role and how she thought she was doing what she could.

[BigDamnHero]

I'm just throwing this idea out there....kinda like a devil's advocate kinda deal: What about rezzing Dom? I know, I know...he's a super-powerful indy/baddie (in my mind, if you're not w/ us you're against us). It would be a waste of a rez, but there would be a little security in knowing who's coming back and it should be easy enough to lynch him immediately following so we could dispatch him pretty quick. My problem here is I have no read on any of those other candidates and IF one of them were a baddie we may never know until it's too late.

SVS & Kate were killed by the manipulators while reywaS & Flyin'High were killed by the video game baddies. Any of those sets of individuals could've been on the opposite baddies team and IF that were the case, I wouldn't want them coming back. And of course, there's also the chance any or all of them could be civs, but that all seems like really bad odds no matter how you look at it.

[bea]

rezzing bob.

I thought he might help us before I understood his role and I've been a lynch candiate for two days now.

are you the recruit then?

[Mongoose]

I don't think that would be ideal, no. Plus, there might be a grass period where we couldn't lynch him anyway, and who knows what kind of mischief he could manage in that short time period?

[Epignosis]

Can we bring back A Person while we're at it? Jesus.

[Mongoose]

EBWOP: Grace, not grass period.

[Epignosis]

EBWOP: Grace, not grass period.

Within this crowd there be many grass periods, methinks.

[bea]

I'm just throwing this idea out there....kinda like a devil's advocate kinda deal: What about rezzing Dom? I know, I know...he's a super-powerful indy/baddie (in my mind, if you're not w/ us you're against us). It would be a waste of a rez, but there would be a little security in knowing who's coming back and it should be easy enough to lynch him immediately following so we could dispatch him pretty quick. My problem here is I have no read on any of those other candidates and IF one of them were a baddie we may never know until it's too late.

SVS & Kate were killed by the manipulators while reywaS & Flyin'High were killed by the video game baddies. Any of those sets of individuals could've been on the opposite baddies team and IF that were the case, I wouldn't want them coming back. And of course, there's also the chance any or all of them could be civs, but that all seems like really bad odds no matter how you look at it.

fwiw - I get what you are saying. About the opposite baddie teams potentially taking each other down, but yea. Rezzing that role. After all I've been through because I didn't understand the role and I DARED ask questions about it. No way in effin' hell in my personal world.

[bea]

also - if we rez him - we let him have time to gain yet another minion. As it is - he has 1.

As long as he's not alive - he only has 1 minion who can kill - why would we let him live to recruit more people to his LMS cause?

[BigDamnHero]

fwiw - I get what you are saying. About the opposite baddie teams potentially taking each other down, but yea. Rezzing that role. After all I've been through because I didn't understand the role and I DARED ask questions about it. No way in effin' hell in my personal world.

I don't care what people think about me because of my suggestion. If I get some heat because of it, so be it. In the end, everyone will see I was just trying to be helpful and in no way connected to Bob.

I voted for Lizzy and JUST Lizzy. There's enough good will on her behalf that I can trust she is who her role revealed her to be. I can't in good conscious feel that any of the other candidates deserve a 1-UP without knowing who they are or where their allegiances lie.

Linki: Fine....not a great idea. but my thinking waqs we bring him back at night and turn around and kill him again. He shouldn't have time for any more recruits and I see no reason why anyone would have a grace period. But whatever. Nix the idea. I was just throwing out a possible strategy to keep us safe.

[Mongoose]

I meant a host-imposed grace period, by the way. I feel like that's happened sometimes when players are rezzed, just like when they are replaced.

[Epignosis]

Hey BigDamnHero:

What would you say if I told you that I know your role?

[BigDamnHero]

I meant a host-imposed grace period, by the way. I feel like that's happened sometimes when players are rezzed, just like when they are replaced.

Having been killed and rezzed, I was not made aware of any grace period. This is only my second game (w/ 2 diff hosts) so I've never been made privvy to what is/isn't the norm. I don't see why it would but, but again, my rhetorical idea doesn't look like it's gonna go anywhere so the "grace period" discussion is a moot point.


@Epi: then you know you have no reason to distrust me.

[bea]

fwiw - I get what you are saying. About the opposite baddie teams potentially taking each other down, but yea. Rezzing that role. After all I've been through because I didn't understand the role and I DARED ask questions about it. No way in effin' hell in my personal world.

I don't care what people think about me because of my suggestion. If I get some heat because of it, so be it. In the end, everyone will see I was just trying to be helpful and in no way connected to Bob.

I voted for Lizzy and JUST Lizzy. There's enough good will on her behalf that I can trust she is who her role revealed her to be. I can't in good conscious feel that any of the other candidates deserve a 1-UP without knowing who they are or where their allegiances lie.

Linki: Fine....not a great idea. but my thinking waqs we bring him back at night and turn around and kill him again. He shouldn't have time for any more recruits and I see no reason why anyone would have a grace period. But whatever. Nix the idea. I was just throwing out a possible strategy to keep us safe.

I get that too. and you see the heat I've been getting. I know you are just trying to think everything out.

That said - I would like to see at the very least svs back in the game. it's a champions game and she is a champion. IDK where her alignment was - she was ripped out of this game too quicky for me to even try to get a read.

[Draconus]

RIP DP.
RIP FH - I'd had pretty civ vibes from you.

I'd like to build a case for Kate or SVS.

Both of them were taken out of the game WAY too early.
Both of them were killed by the Manipulators.

as far as lynched people goes - LIzzy seemed to be doing an awesome job and it's a role we'd like to have back...

This... ALL of this...
Votes for all 3.

[Epignosis]

@Epi: then you know you have no reason to distrust me.

I like that answer. Fucking A.

[Draconus]

Also, FH DP
I wish you'd come around more often little prickly dude

[BigDamnHero]

I get that too. and you see the heat I've been getting. I know you are just trying to think everything out.

That said - I would like to see at the very least svs back in the game. it's a champions game and she is a champion. IDK where her alignment was - she was ripped out of this game too quicky for me to even try to get a read.

I do see that, and for what it's worth, I think it's completely unjustified. In my mind, I've read you as civ so far this game.

My only experience w/ SVS was in the Homestar game where she did an admirable job of subbing in and pulling the wool over everyone's eyes when she was the Independant Serial Killer. I'm not saying that's taking place here, but I know she can be wiley, cunning & manipulative. IF she was a baddie role, we wouldn't know it until it was too late.

[BigDamnHero]

@Epi: then you know you have no reason to distrust me.

I like that answer. Fucking A.

Thank you sir!

[Draconus]

Oh, and, FYI I will be busy with friends tomorrow evening, so I won't be able to put up the night post when this period ends. So, the post will either be up sometime later in the evening, or sometime on Sunday. I won't be extending the Night period for simplicity reasons though. Sorry for the inconvenience!

Son of a bitch, I knew I was forgetting about something this weekend!!! I will text you shortly

[Epignosis]

@Epi: then you know you have no reason to distrust me.

I like that answer. Fucking A.

Thank you sir!

Since you're chatty in the Nights as I don't mind being, what do you think? Who should be lynched?

[Mongoose]

Also, FH DP
I wish you'd come around more often little prickly dude

I KNOW RIGHT? I was beginning to believe him until he came off suuuper defensive about my mild comments about the mofo grace period. Red flag, red flag.