Steely Dan Mafia [ENDGAME]

[Matahari]

and his recent defense of DDL’s role use

i don't remember reading how you felt about the narrowed down lynch pool. did it make you wary of ddl?

fair points on everyone. i think based on my understanding of daisy's personality, i can gleam how far she would go into inserting anger into a mafia game. what i saw was genuine anger and displeasure that i feel would be near impossible to replicate if she was just messing about with a teammate. i also can't see her bussing mac. his role was a powerful one. she's the one that set mac ahead of nutella; something she didn't have to do to stay consistent in her game play. the bussing, if it occurred, would have happened after mac was in the lead imo.

this is just my take on things. it's called tinfoil because it can be disputed, but i felt like expanding on why daisy is town in my eyes.

I made a post, I think, about DDL, or I may have canceled it. Sometimes, if two or three people just posted about something, all in agreement, and I’m working on a post saying the same thing, I’ll cancel my post. But I’ll look back. Wait, yes, I did. I was commenting on not liking the lynch being directed, but at the same time, I wanted to see a tie. I thought it was funny that I was wishing for a directed lynch (tie), but not liking DDLs directed lynch. I thought it might be another attempt at stalling a lynch to save the remaining mafia. I’ll still look to see if I made any other posts about DDL before adding him to my POE.

I still think Daisy is town, I was just trying to be realistic about her abilities as a wolf. The last time we were mafia together, Death Note, I think, she amazed me. I give her credit for being able to pull off anything.

[Matahari]

[mention]dunya[/mention]

@juliets it’s just that I’d like to see how people react to the possibility of a tie. How many times votes change, etc.
So this sounds very hypocritical, even though I’m in favor of playing around with the voting to help me out with my suspect list, I’m very opposed to the restricted poll. I’m having a difficult time believing there is anything town about that ability.

[dunya]

juliets it’s just that I’d like to see how people react to the possibility of a tie. How many times votes change, etc.
So this sounds very hypocritical, even though I’m in favor of playing around with the voting to help me out with my suspect list, I’m very opposed to the restricted poll. I’m having a difficult time believing there is anything town about that ability.

i see it now, mata. sorry, i'm not focused on the game anymore. thanks for answering.

link: lol.

[Spacedaisy]

and his recent defense of DDL’s role use

i don't remember reading how you felt about the narrowed down lynch pool. did it make you wary of ddl?

fair points on everyone. i think based on my understanding of daisy's personality, i can gleam how far she would go into inserting anger into a mafia game. what i saw was genuine anger and displeasure that i feel would be near impossible to replicate if she was just messing about with a teammate. i also can't see her bussing mac. his role was a powerful one. she's the one that set mac ahead of nutella; something she didn't have to do to stay consistent in her game play. the bussing, if it occurred, would have happened after mac was in the lead imo.

this is just my take on things. it's called tinfoil because it can be disputed, but i felt like expanding on why daisy is town in my eyes.

I made a post, I think, about DDL, or I may have canceled it. Sometimes, if two or three people just posted about something, all in agreement, and I’m working on a post saying the same thing, I’ll cancel my post. But I’ll look back. Wait, yes, I did. I was commenting on not liking the lynch being directed, but at the same time, I wanted to see a tie. I thought it was funny that I was wishing for a directed lynch (tie), but not liking DDLs directed lynch. I thought it might be another attempt at stalling a lynch to save the remaining mafia. I’ll still look to see if I made any other posts about DDL before adding him to my POE.

I still think Daisy is town, I was just trying to be realistic about her abilities as a wolf. The last time we were mafia together, Death Note, I think, she amazed me. I give her credit for being able to pull off anything.

Awe shucks. That was the best game I’ve ever played honestly.

But dunya I don’t i sent anger as a fake. If I’m upset, it’s real and probably NAI. I can get upset as mafia or civ. I appreciate that you townread me for that, but i thought I should be clear. All I was less angry than frustrated earlier becauseJack’s argument was ridiculous imo, and ignored the point I favor if an invented reasoning.

However, my vote for Mac did put him in the lead. But a lot of votes came in around the same time so... I don’t expect a solid town read from that.

[juliets]

Seems really boring to just abstain, but I don't see a good way to implement it at this point.

Hit me with it. I want to see what it does.

Why? It could screw up your ability.

[dunya]

But dunya I don’t i sent anger as a fake. If I’m upset, it’s real and probably NAI. I can get upset as mafia or civ. I appreciate that you townread me for that, but i thought I should be clear. All I was less angry than frustrated earlier becauseJack’s argument was ridiculous imo, and ignored the point I favor if an invented reasoning.

However, my vote for Mac did put him in the lead. But a lot of votes came in around the same time so... I don’t expect a solid town read from that.

of course you can, but i have very little ability to see you get genuinely upset at a teammate's "fake argument" that way lol. that was my point. the anger didn't clear you--the fact it was an interaction with a dead mafioso did.

[dunya]

anger, frustration. whatever you wanna call it.

[speedchuck]

Seems really boring to just abstain, but I don't see a good way to implement it at this point.

Hit me with it. I want to see what it does.

Why? It could screw up your ability.

Really?

I thought it was a post restriction.

[juliets]

Seems really boring to just abstain, but I don't see a good way to implement it at this point.

Hit me with it. I want to see what it does.

Why? It could screw up your ability.

Really?

I thought it was a post restriction.

Ok, as long as it's not an overall communication restriction. That's what I was afraid of.

[Matahari]

Leetic, you were here. No post?

[speedchuck]

Seems really boring to just abstain, but I don't see a good way to implement it at this point.

Hit me with it. I want to see what it does.

Why? It could screw up your ability.

Really?

I thought it was a post restriction.

Ok, as long as it's not an overall communication restriction. That's what I was afraid of.

I don't know, it's not my role

[JaggedJimmyJay]

sure speedchuck why not. It shouldn't impact your other stuff as far as I know.

[speedchuck]

Neato

[juliets]

Leetic, you were here. No post?

leetic was here and had nothing to say? bad news.

[juliets]

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] sorry if you said this and I missed it but who would you have voted for in the reduced poll and why?

[Matahari]

Leetic, you were here. No post?

leetic was here and had nothing to say? bad news.

He was here, left for a few minutes, then came back for a few. I don’t like that.

[speedchuck]

@speedchuck sorry if you said this and I missed it but who would you have voted for in the reduced poll and why?

Leetic

I think he's been the least present? Not a whole lot to go on.

[Spacedaisy]

But dunya I don’t i sent anger as a fake. If I’m upset, it’s real and probably NAI. I can get upset as mafia or civ. I appreciate that you townread me for that, but i thought I should be clear. All I was less angry than frustrated earlier becauseJack’s argument was ridiculous imo, and ignored the point I favor if an invented reasoning.

However, my vote for Mac did put him in the lead. But a lot of votes came in around the same time so... I don’t expect a solid town read from that.

of course you can, but i have very little ability to see you get genuinely upset at a teammate's "fake argument" that way lol. that was my point. the anger didn't clear you--the fact it was an interaction with a dead mafioso did.

Ah I see what you’re saying.

You’re my tinfoil, lol so that’s why it worries me when you clear me so totally.

[juliets]

@speedchuck sorry if you said this and I missed it but who would you have voted for in the reduced poll and why?

Leetic

I think he's been the least present? Not a whole lot to go on.

Ok thanks. I didn't like his shooing us away from the low posters. And he's evidently been here but not bothered to post. He may be my next vote.

[dunya]

i mean, i appreciate all the votes of confidence (and tinfoil), but it isn't helping me die in this game.

[Spacedaisy]

I don’t really think it’s worth making a case out of when someone comes and goes personally. I come ina Nd read without commenting sometimes because I am distracted or just don’t feel like I have something to add. I hope it doesn’t become the norm to be carefully watching when people come and go. We all have lives outside of mafia. And we all play differently.

[Spacedaisy]

i mean, i appreciate all the votes of confidence (and tinfoil), but it isn't helping me die in this game.

If I had a NK you’d be dead already.

[juliets]

I don’t really think it’s worth making a case out of when someone comes and goes personally. I come ina Nd read without commenting sometimes because I am distracted or just don’t feel like I have something to add. I hope it doesn’t become the norm to be carefully watching when people come and go. We all have lives outside of mafia. And we all play differently.

Yes but he has offered nothing of substance and I find his presence with no output concerning. If he is reading he knows he is close to the edge so do something, offer reads, defend, something.

[Matahari]

I don’t really think it’s worth making a case out of when someone comes and goes personally. I come ina Nd read without commenting sometimes because I am distracted or just don’t feel like I have something to add. I hope it doesn’t become the norm to be carefully watching when people come and go. We all have lives outside of mafia. And we all play differently.

Normally, I don’t look for that either. But it seems to be more important to me with the low posters this game. It might not really matter, I just noticed it and commented.

[Spacedaisy]

I’m not defending leetic. I see no reason to believe he is good. I’m just commenting about a frequent conversation piece in this game that I’m hoping doesn’t become a trend

[Epignosis]

Since I am back to work, I have to extend the Night phase just a bit. Night actions are due by 7pm EST and that is when the phase will end.

[dunya]

[Matahari]

This implies that not all of the night actions are in yet?

[juliets]

Since I am back to work, I have to extend the Night phase just a bit. Night actions are due by 7pm EST and that is when the phase will end.

Epi, when do you expect the lynch post to be?

[Epignosis]

Since I am back to work, I have to extend the Night phase just a bit. Night actions are due by 7pm EST and that is when the phase will end.

Epi, when do you expect the lynch post to be?

About 7:10 pm EST.

[juliets]

Thank you Epi! I think I'll nap.

[Kites]

@Kites - why did you go with luna instead of niju in the end? you mentioned "something fishy" about luna, can you explain what that is? i thought you liked luna's take on your read list when she went after you?

yeah i liked that one single post but the other stuff inmentioned weighd more
i was okay with niju lynch too, kinda 50/50 on it. i posted some thoughts about it too i guess

[Kites]

i do not feel the most confident in kites based on the timing of his mac vote. he hasn't done a whole lot of tinfoiling on anyone. he seems disengaged and curiosity and genuine game solving are both missing in his posts that we saw in FE.

yeah i haven’t been very invested in this game tbh
in fire emblem i struggled with content too but there was game mechanics, open setup roles and shit i mostly speculated and talked about

[juliets]

lol, I just went over to the spectator chat for nutella's game and guess who's there posting? leetic!

[novaselinenever]

lol, I just went over to the spectator chat for nutella's game and guess who's there posting? leetic!

LOL

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I honestly don't think it's kosher to talk about the "who is online" names down there. Some people are invisible. Some people can see invisibles. I prefer to avoid bringing any of that up in games.

leetic can be bad for various other reasons though.

[Epignosis]

Donald Fagen and Walter Becker looked at a jar of Vaseline.

And said "No."

novaselinever has been cut.

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

Aja
Up on the hill, people never stare- they just don’t care

Invite your guest each Night to join you up on the hill, where no one is staring or caring- there’s only Chinese music and banyan trees. While in your care, your target is too relaxed to carry out any Night action but will be protected from any negativity from anyone with murder on his or her mind.

You are a civilian and win when the mafia are dead.

It is now Day 5. You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

[dunya]

nova hit 3k posts :o

link: thank you for protecting me nova

[Matahari]

nova hit 3k posts :o

link: thank you for protecting me nova

??? I thought your role didn’t need protecting.

[dunya]

nova hit 3k posts :o

link: thank you for protecting me nova

??? I thought your role didn’t need protecting.

eh? what do you mean?

[juliets]

Dang, I hate to see him go.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Luna] aubergine

[dunya]

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine

[dunya]

-_-

[JaggedJimmyJay]

-_-

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Well would you look at that OP.

[Matahari]

[mention]dunya[/mention]
Didn’t you kind of role claim earlier? And you have asked to be killed several times. Maybe I assumed the wrong role for you?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

ugh RIP niju. I wonder if anyone on the poll was bad? Niju did look like a good choice (second to leetic).

lol teammates

lol, not.

anyway I was serious about this.

[Elohcin]

Bye Nova. I am voting luna like I said I would if there was a kill this time.

[speedchuck]

Lunalee experience at BTSC Night A: Wonderful. Juliets can choose to share Luna gold indeed, fine. Leetic less gold than Luna.