[END] The Syndicate's 2013 Game of Champions

[DharmaHelper]

Media ~~~~e~~e~ ~ ~l~~~n~ ~~~le ~~ ~~~er~ ~~~e~ ~n ~~e ~~~~~n~~~~n ~~ ~~~e~ ~~~~n~~ ~er ~n~ ~~re~~ ~en~~~n~ ~~ ~er player's name. ~~ ~~e ~~~e~ ~~r ~er~el~, ~~ ~~e~ n~~ ~~~ ~~ ~er ~~~le. ~~e ~~~le re~e~~ every person ~n~ ~~ n~~ ~~~~l~~~~e. ~n~ ~~~~e~ ~~ n~~ ~~~n~! ~ ~en~~~n~ ~r ~~~e~ ~ N~ ~~~er; ~-~ ~ ~n~~n~~~ ~~~ ~l~~er~, ~-~~ a role check; ~~-~~ ~ ~~~~ ~ ~~~~~n~ ~~r~e ~n ~~l~ ~~ ~~e ~l~~~~e~ (l~~er ~r ~~~er); ~~-~~ ~ ~r~~e~~~~n ~r~~ ~ll n~~~~ ~~~er~, ~~-~~ ~ ~ne-~~~e l~n~~ ~~~e; ~~-~~ ~ r~n~~~l~ redirect all night powers; ~~~ ~ e~er~ ~~n~le ~~~er ~re~~~~~l~ l~~~e~ ~~~~l~~ne~~~l~. ~~e ~~n~ ~~ ~~r~~~~n~ ~n~~l ~~e en~ ~~ ~~e ~~~e, ~~~ ~nl~ ~~ ~~e ~~~ re~e~~e~ ~~re l~n~~ ~~~e~ ~~~~n~~ ~er ~~~n e~~~ ~~ ~~e ~~~er re~~~n~n~ ~l~~er~ ~n~~~~~~~ll~.
~~en ~e ~~e~ n~~ ~~n~ ~~~~, ~e ~~n ~en~ ~ ~r~~~~~l ~~ ~~~~ ~l~~er ~~e ~~~~e~~en~ ~~~ ~er~~~ ~~~ ~~e ~~~~, ~~~er~n~ ~~e~ ~~e ~~e ~~ ~ n~~~~ ~~ll. ~~~~ ~l~~er ~~~ ~~e re~~~n~er ~~ ~~e ~~~ ~er~~~ ~~ re~~~n~ ~~ ~~e ~~~er. ~~ ~~e~ ~~~e ~~e ~~~er ~~r ~~e n~~~~ ~~ll, ~~e~ ~~ll ~en~ ~n ~ ~~r~e~ ~~r ~~ ~~~~ ~~~~e~~en~ n~~~~, ~~~ ~n re~l~~~, Delbert ~~ll ~~~~~e ~~e real ~~r~e~, ~n~ Delbert's ~~r~e~ will be killed. Every time Delbert ~~~~e~~~~ll~ executes an "~~~er" kill, he gains one lynch vote. ~~~~ ~~ll every other player ~~ ~~n (e~~e~~ ~~~~, ~~ ~~e~ ~e~~ ~~).

When he ~~e~ n~~ ~~n~ ~~~~, he can send a proposal ~~ ~~~~ player ~~e ~~~~e~~en~ ~~~ ~er~~~ ~~~ ~~e ~~~~, ~~~er~n~ ~~e~ ~~e ~~e ~~ ~ n~~~~ ~~ll. ~~~~ ~l~~er ~~~ ~~e re~~~n~er ~~ ~~e ~~~ ~er~~~ ~~ re~~~n~ ~~ ~~e ~~~er. ~~ ~~e~ ~~~e ~~e ~~~er ~~r ~~e n~~~~ ~~ll, ~~e~ ~~ll ~en~ ~n ~ ~~r~e~ ~~r ~~ ~~~~ subsequent night, ~~~ ~n re~l~~~, Delbert ~~ll ~~~~~e ~~e real ~~r~e~, ~n~ Delbert's ~~r~e~ will be killed. Every time Delbert ~~~~e~~~~ll~ executes an "~~~er" kill, he gains one lynch vote. ~~~~ ~~ll every other player ~~ ~~n (except ~~~~, ~~ ~~e~ ~e~~ ~~).

Linki: Apologies Mr. Holmes, I was fighting in a dungeon and decoding simultaniously.

I will take "S" and "O" please.

[A Person]

i'd not mind an SO if you know what i mean

[dodo]

~~ ~enn~ ~~n~s ~~~~~~er, ~~e~ ~~~n ~~S~, ~n~ ~e~o~e ~ ~~~ N~n~~ ~e~~, ~~~~ ~~~~~~er ~~rr~~n~ o~~ ~~e ~~lls. ~~lls e~e~~~e~ on ~~~~~es ~~ll ~~~l ~~~o~~~~~~ll~. ~~ ~~~~~~er ~~es, ~~e ~~ll ~~sses ~o ~enn~.

On~e ~~ ~~es ~or ~~e ~~rs~ ~~~e, ~~ ~s ~~~o~~~~~~ll~ res~rre~~e~ ~~e ~ollo~~n~ ~er~o~.

E~er~ ~~~e ~e~~ ~o~ ~~es, ~e res~rre~~s ~~~sel~ ~~~o~~~~~~ll~ ~~e s~~se~~en~ ~er~o~. ~~e ~o~r~~ ~~~e ~e ~~es, ~o~e~er, ~e ~~ll re~~~n ~e~~.

~~n ~~~~er ~~~~ ~~e n~~~~ ~os~s e~er~ n~~~~, ~~~~n~ ~n one o~~~rren~e o~ ~~s ~~o~~e ~~~~ ~~~n~~ ~~~~~ll~ ~~~~en. ~s ~ ~e~n~ o~ ~~s~~~~l ~resen~e, ~~ ~~n ~on~~n~e ~o ~o ~~~s e~en ~ro~ ~e~on~ ~~e ~r~~e. ~~~~~~on~ll~, ~s lon~ ~s ~~ ~s ~l~~e, ~~e ~~ller on ~~s ~e~~ ~~n ~~ll ~~~~e e~er~ ~~~e ~ns~e~~ o~ on~e.

~~ ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~es, ~ree~er s~o~s ~lo~~~n~ e~er~ n~~~~, ~ns~e~~ ~lo~~~n~ e~er~ o~~ n~~~~, ~n~ ~r~es ~o ~~ll ~ ~l~~er e~er~ e~en n~~~~. ~o~e~er, ~~ ~~s onl~ ~ ~~~ s~~~ess r~~e o~ ~~ll~n~ ~~s ~~r~e~. ~~~~~~on~ll~, on~e ~n ~~e ~~~e ~~ ~n~ ~~~e, ~ree~er ~~~ e~~lo~e, ~~ll~n~ ~~~sel~, ~s ~ell ~s ~~~~n~ ~ ~~~ ~~~n~e o~ ~~ll~n~ ~o~r o~~er ~l~~ers. ~e ~~~ no~ sele~~ ~~~~~ ~l~~ers, ~o~e~er, ~s ~~e~ ~~ll ~e e~~~ o~ ~~e ~~o ~l~~ers ~l~~~~e~~~~ll~ ~~o~e ~n~ ~elo~ ~~~ ~~on~ ~~ose ~~rren~l~ ~l~~e on ~~e ~l~~er l~s~.

~~ ~r. ~e~~s ~e~o~es ~~e l~s~ ~e~~er o~ ~~s ~e~~ s~~ll ~l~~e, ~e ~e~~ns ~~ll~n~ e~er~ e~en n~~~~ ~n ~~s L~l' Sl~~~er. ~e~~~se o~ L~l' Sl~~~er's ~~l~~ ~n~ so~e~~~~ slo~ ~o~e~en~s, ~o~e~er, ~~ o~~en s~r~~~les ~o ~~~~~ll~ ~~ll ~re~, s~~~ee~~n~ onl~ ~~~ o~ ~~e ~~~e.

~o~~~ ~~nno~ ~e n~~~~ ~~lle~. ~~ene~er ~l~~ers ~re ~o~e~ on ~~r~n~ ~ res~rre~~~on or ~n ~n~~~~~~~~ ~~ll e~en~, ~o~~~ ~~ooses ~~on~ ~ll o~ ~~e ~l~~ers, ~n~ ~~s sele~~~on ~s res~rre~~e~ or ~~lle~, ~~~~~e~er ~s ~~~l~~~~le. ~~r~n~ ~n ~n~~~~~~~~ ~~ll e~en~, ~~e ~l~~er o~ ~o~~~'s ~~oos~n~ ~s ~~lle~, re~~r~less o~ ~n~ ~~~l~~~ or ~on~~~~on ~~~~ nor~~ll~ ~o~l~ ~ro~e~~ ~~e ~l~~er ~ro~ n~~~~ ~~lls. ~o~~~ ~s ~~~~~e~ e~er~ n~~~~ ~~~~ ~o~ ~~n~ ~l~~ers ~re s~~ll ~l~~e ~n e~~~ ~~~~~on (~~~~~es, e~~~ ~~~~~e ~e~~, ~n~e~en~en~s). ~~~~~~on~ll~, ~o~~~ ~e~~~es ~~o ~s l~n~~e~ ~n ~~e e~en~ o~ ~n~ ~~es. ~~~ ~~n ~~~~ ~n~ ~e~~.

~e~~~ ~ossesses ~ sl~~~n~ s~~le o~ ~o~ers ~~se~ on ~~e ~o~~~n~~~on o~ ~o~es ~~~~ns~ ~er ~n~ ~~re~~ ~en~~ons o~ ~er ~l~~er's n~~e. ~~ s~e ~o~es ~or ~ersel~, ~~ ~oes no~ ~~~ ~o ~er s~~le. ~~e s~~le rese~s e~er~ ~er~o~ ~n~ ~s no~ ~~~~l~~~~e. ~n~ ~~o~es ~o no~ ~o~n~! ~ ~en~~ons or ~o~es ~ No ~o~er; ~-~ ~ ~ns~n~~~ ~~o ~l~~ers, ~-~~ ~ role ~~e~~; ~~-~~ ~ ~~s~ ~ ~os~~n~ ~~rse on ~~l~ o~ ~~e ~l~~~~e~ (lo~er or ~~~er); ~~-~~ ~ ~ro~e~~~on ~ro~ ~ll n~~~~ ~o~ers, ~~-~~ ~ one-~~~e l~n~~ s~~e; ~~-~~ ~ r~n~o~l~ re~~re~~ ~ll n~~~~ ~o~ers; ~~~ ~ e~er~ s~n~le ~o~er ~re~~o~sl~ l~s~e~ s~~~l~~neo~sl~. S~e ~~ns ~~ s~r~~~~n~ ~n~~l ~~e en~ o~ ~~e ~~~e, ~~~ onl~ ~~ s~e ~~s re~e~~e~ ~ore l~n~~ ~o~es ~~~~ns~ ~er ~~~n e~~~ o~ ~~e o~~er re~~~n~n~ ~l~~ers ~n~~~~~~~ll~.

~~en ~e ~oes no~ ~~n~ ~~~~, ~e ~~n sen~ ~ ~ro~os~l ~o ~~~~ ~l~~er ~~e s~~se~~en~ ~~~ ~er~o~ ~~~ ~~e ~os~, o~~er~n~ ~~e~ ~~e ~se o~ ~ n~~~~ ~~ll. ~~~~ ~l~~er ~~s ~~e re~~~n~er o~ ~~e ~~~ ~er~o~ ~o res~on~ ~o ~~e o~~er. ~~ ~~e~ ~~~e ~~e o~~er ~or ~~e n~~~~ ~~ll, ~~e~ ~~ll sen~ ~n ~ ~~r~e~ ~or ~~ ~~~~ s~~se~~en~ n~~~~, ~~~ ~n re~l~~~, ~el~er~ ~~ll ~~oose ~~e re~l ~~r~e~, ~n~ ~el~er~'s ~~r~e~ ~~ll ~e ~~lle~. E~er~ ~~~e ~el~er~ s~~~ess~~ll~ e~e~~~es ~n "o~~er" ~~ll, ~e ~~~ns one l~n~~ s~o~. ~~s~ ~~ll e~er~ o~~er ~l~~er ~o ~~n (e~~e~~ ~~~~, ~~ ~~e~ ~e~~ ~~).

[dodo]

i'd not mind an SO if you know what i mean

Don't talk out loud; you lower the IQ of the whole site.

[DharmaHelper]

Thank you Sherlock.

[A Person]

i'd not mind an SO if you know what i mean

Don't talk out loud; you lower the IQ of the whole site.

my plan is to drag you all down to my level and then beat you with experience

[thellama73]

Can I have a Q, X and Z?

[DharmaHelper]

If Dr. Fetus becomes the last member of his team still alive, he begins killing every even night in his Lil' Slugger. Because of Lil' Slugger's bulky and sometimes slow movements, however, ~~ ~~~en ~~r~~~le~ ~~ ~~~~~ll~ ~~ll ~re~, ~~~~ee~~n~ ~nl~ ~~~ ~~ ~~e ~~~e.

~~ ~r. ~e~~s ~e~o~es ~~e l~s~ ~e~~er o~ ~~s ~e~~ s~~ll ~l~~e, ~e ~e~~ns ~~ll~n~ e~er~ e~en n~~~~ ~n ~~s L~l' Sl~~~er. ~e~~~se o~ L~l' Sl~~~er's ~~l~~ ~n~ so~e~~~~ slo~ ~o~e~en~s, ~o~e~er, ~~ o~~en s~r~~~les ~o ~~~~~ll~ ~~ll ~re~, s~~~ee~~n~ onl~ ~~~ o~ ~~e ~~~e.

[agleaminranks]

In fact, as I ponder the circumstances of this scenario, I am convinced the murderer would want to hide himself. Therefore, algeaminranks will receive my vote.

Should he receive yours? Well, that's your decision. I am sticking with my evaluation.

Nonetheless, it should prompt the ignoramus to show himself.

Up yours, aspie. Some of us have actual jobs, ya freebooter.

I think Llama makes some fair points about DharmaHelper quashing discussion, though from my point of view it just seems like it's in DH's self defense that he does so. Llama's participation in this game feels a little bit... different than in other games I've played. I can't quite put my finger on it, but maybe I can elaborate more when my vocabulary ceases to fail me so.

Not to undermine DharmaHelper's intelligence in any way, but the first thought that comes to my mind is that with him being the near-only worker on His Royal Anus's clues is that it would be the perfect way to cover up that he might be one person who has a secret role. Perhaps he's intentionally flubbing some missed translations on purpose to add credence to his innocence?

[DharmaHelper]

~~ ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~e~, Creeper ~~~~~ blocking every night, ~n~~e~~ ~l~~~~n~ every odd night, and tries to kill a player every even night. However, he has only a ~~~ success rate of killing his target. additionally, once in the game ~~ ~n~ ~~~e, Creeper can explode, killing himself, as well as having a ~~~ chance of killing four other players. He can not select ~~~~~ players, however, ~~ ~~e~ ~~ll ~e e~~~ ~~ ~~e ~~~ players ~l~~~~e~~~~ll~ ~~~~e ~n~ ~el~~ ~~~ ~~~n~ ~~~~e currently alive on the player list.

[thellama73]

Llama's participation in this game feels a little bit... different than in other games I've played. I can't quite put my finger on it, but maybe I can elaborate more when my vocabulary ceases to fail me so.

It absolutely is different. I had a very busy couple of weeks and lost track of what was happening in the game. I'm more comfortable now that I've done a couple of rereads, but am not as confident as I would have been if I had been keeping up all game.

[DharmaHelper]

In fact, as I ponder the circumstances of this scenario, I am convinced the murderer would want to hide himself. Therefore, algeaminranks will receive my vote.

Should he receive yours? Well, that's your decision. I am sticking with my evaluation.

Nonetheless, it should prompt the ignoramus to show himself.

Up yours, aspie. Some of us have actual jobs, ya freebooter.

I think Llama makes some fair points about DharmaHelper quashing discussion, though from my point of view it just seems like it's in DH's self defense that he does so. Llama's participation in this game feels a little bit... different than in other games I've played. I can't quite put my finger on it, but maybe I can elaborate more when my vocabulary ceases to fail me so.

Not to undermine DharmaHelper's intelligence in any way, but the first thought that comes to my mind is that with him being the near-only worker on His Royal Anus's clues is that it would be the perfect way to cover up that he might be one person who has a secret role. Perhaps he's intentionally flubbing some missed translations on purpose to add credence to his innocence?

I understand the concern, but that's not the case. :P

[Boomslang]

Loads of back-and-forth between Sherlock and DH, as far as I can tell, and little else of interest; please correct me if I'm wrong. Going to watch the Grammys for Paul and Ringo, so I'm mostly just posting to show off my brand-spanking new signature.

[Flyin' High]

Thank you for working on the decoding, DH.

[DharmaHelper]

Media possesses a sliding scale of powers based on the combination of votes against her and direct mentions of her player's name. If she votes for herself, it does not add to her scale. The scale resets every period and is not cumulative. ~n~ ~~o~es ~o no~ ~o~n~! ~ mentions or votes ~ No power; ~-~ ~ insanify two players, ~-~~ ~ role check; ~~-~~ ~ ~~s~ ~ posting curse on half of the ~l~~~~e~ (lover or hater); ~~-~~ ~ protection from all night powers, ~~-~~ ~ one-time lynch save; ~~-~~ ~ randomly redirect all night powers; ~~~ ~ every single power previously listed simultaneously. She wins by surviving until the end of the gane, but only if she has received more lynch votes than each of the other remaining players individually.


Based on this I think INH was probably Media.

[DharmaHelper]

Media possesses a sliding scale of powers based on the combination of votes against her and direct mentions of her player's name. If she votes for herself, it does not add to her scale. The scale resets every period and is not cumulative. and quotes do not count! ~ mentions or votes ~ No power; ~-~ ~ insanify two players, ~-~~ ~ role check; ~~-~~ ~ ~~s~ ~ posting curse on half of the ~l~~~~e~ (lover or hater); ~~-~~ ~ protection from all night powers, ~~-~~ ~ one-time lynch save; ~~-~~ ~ randomly redirect all night powers; ~~~ ~ every single power previously listed simultaneously. She wins by surviving until the end of the gane, but only if she has received more lynch votes than each of the other remaining players individually.


Based on this I think INH was probably Media.

[Hedgeowl]

Media possesses a sliding scale of powers based on the combination of votes against her and direct mentions of her player's name. If she votes for herself, it does not add to her scale. The scale resets every period and is not cumulative. ~n~ ~~o~es ~o no~ ~o~n~! ~ mentions or votes ~ No power; ~-~ ~ insanify two players, ~-~~ ~ role check; ~~-~~ ~ ~~s~ ~ posting curse on half of the ~l~~~~e~ (lover or hater); ~~-~~ ~ protection from all night powers, ~~-~~ ~ one-time lynch save; ~~-~~ ~ randomly redirect all night powers; ~~~ ~ every single power previously listed simultaneously. She wins by surviving until the end of the gane, but only if she has received more lynch votes than each of the other remaining players individually.


Based on this I think INH was probably Media.

Wow, yeah this definitely looks like Ok Computer was Media. That is a hard role to pull off, but makes a lot of sense as to his program gambit.

DH thank you for doing all this work on the code. I sadly have not had the kind of time today to devote to it and would only get a few words in the time you have solved many.

I am still thinking about bea and BWT. We did not have a minion kill the last two nights it seems? Although there was some speculation that on the previous night there might have been one correct? Definitely want to compare who we voted on both nights and see what comes up.

[DharmaHelper]

When he does not find Jack, he can send a proposal to ~~~~ player the subsequent day period via the host, offering them the use of a night kill. ~~~~ ~l~~er ~~s ~~e re~~~n~er o~ ~~e ~~~ ~er~o~ ~o res~on~ ~o ~~e o~~er. ~~ ~~e~ ~~~e ~~e o~~er ~or ~~e n~~~~ ~~ll, ~~e~ ~~ll sen~ ~n ~ ~~r~e~ ~or ~~ ~~~~ s~~se~~en~ n~~~~, ~~~ ~n re~l~~~, ~el~er~ ~~ll ~~oose ~~e re~l ~~r~e~, ~n~ ~el~er~'s ~~r~e~ ~~ll ~e ~~lle~. E~er~ ~~~e ~el~er~ s~~~ess~~ll~ e~e~~~es ~n "o~~er" ~~ll, ~e ~~~ns one l~n~~ s~o~. ~~s~ ~~ll e~er~ o~~er ~l~~er ~o ~~n (e~~e~~ ~~~~, ~~ ~~e~ ~e~~ ~~).


Still cracking at this one but it solves the Mycroft Mystery.

[DharmaHelper]

When he does not find Jack, he can send a proposal to that player the subsequent day period via the host, offering them the use of a night kill. That player has the remainder of the day period to respond to the offer. If they take the offer for the night kill, they will send in a target via PM that subsequent night, but in reality, Delbert will choose the real target, and Delbert's target will be killed. Every time Delbert successfully executes an "offer" kill, he gains one lynch stop. must kill every other player to win (except Jack, ~~ ~~e~ ~e~~ ~~).


Still cracking at this one but it solves the Mycroft Mystery.

[birdwithteeth11]

I don't think DH cracking the codes is necessarily indicative of his civviness or baddiness. He's one of the best mafia codebreakers I've ever seen (along with Long Con), so it doesn't surprise me that he's done so much and gotten much further with them than I probably would have in a week.

I can see where llama is coming from with the over-defensiveness somewhat. On the one hand, it was only Day 1. But I thought it was odd at the time and I forgot about it and had moved on to other suspicions. Might be worth checking out though. I'll have to think about it.

And in terms of Epig, I would say I'm still suspicious of him but trying to consider the possibility of him not being a baddie like I think he is. So probably a mild suspicion for now.

[DharmaHelper]

Can tamper with the night posts every night, addinng in one occurrence of his choice that didn't actually happen. As a being of ~~s~~~~l presence, he can continue to do this even from beyond the grave. additionally, as long as he is alive, the killer on his team can kill twice every time instead of once.

[birdwithteeth11]

I was going to stick with BWT again, but the new NK attempt from a civ and the two roles revealed make me want to wait for both BWT and Nev to ask them a few things.

- a bunch of klinkis

What would you like to ask me? I'm off work tomorrow so I will have a fair amount of time to address any questions.

Linki: And then we get THAT bomb dropped on us.

[S~V~S]

Can tamper with the night posts every night, addinng in one occurrence of his choice that didn't actually happen. As a being of ~~s~~~~l presence, he can continue to do this even from beyond the grave. additionally, as long as he is alive, the killer on his team can kill twice every time instead of once.

Could that explain why the Night Post gives 2 names when the role says the 50% baddie checks ONE player?

[DharmaHelper]

If Dr. Fetus becomes the last member of his team still alive, he begins killing every even night in his Lil' Slugger. Because of Lil' Slugger's bulky and sometimes slow movements, however, he often struggles to
~~~~~ll~ ~~ll ~re~, succeeding only [Percentage] of the time.

LInki - Good Catch SVS. I think that is another mystery solved

[Nevinera]

NEV! Were you offered any goodies a couple of nights ago by a certain someone?

If I understand the question, no.

I'm finding the secrets fascinating - if there's anything left not decoded tomorrow morning, I'll take a crack at what's left.
But good work DH!

Can tamper with the night posts every night, addinng in one occurrence of his choice that didn't actually happen. As a being of ~~s~~~~l presence, he can continue to do this even from beyond the grave. additionally, as long as he is alive, the killer on his team can kill twice every time instead of once.

Could that explain why the Night Post gives 2 names when the role says the 50% baddie checks ONE player?

It might explain a lot actually - not just the role-checks (and that does make a *lot* more sense than MP 'randomly' describing both me and lizzy as baddies).
It also would explain a head-scratcher I hadn't figured out. Some of the failed NK attempts *may have been faked*.

[S~V~S]

Does anyone know off the top of their head the names of the people who had 50% reveals? If not, i can check the posts.

[DharmaHelper]

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 760#p50886

Here it says in the bottom of the post that Nev survived (also says so in the recap on the front page)

It makes no mention of the other attempt on Nev however, leading me to think that one was faked.

[Nevinera]

Does anyone know off the top of their head the names of the people who had 50% reveals? If not, i can check the posts.

Lizzy -> Jack Torrense
Epignosis -> Homestar Runner

BWT -> Lucy
Nevinera -> Big Daddy (Bouncer)

[DharmaHelper]

"Lizzy = Jack Torrence"

Then another barrage of papers started raining. The players were intrigued. The second group of papers said:

"Epignosis = Homestar Runner"


First paper: "birdwithteeth11 = Lucy
Nevinera = Big Daddy (Bouncer)

linki

[Nevinera]

The first kill attempt being real makes more sense too - we know that at that time the Manipulators had two kills (because of the secret power of the exaggerator).

[DharmaHelper]

Of those, I'm thinking Lizzy's was faked and Nev's was faked?

[DharmaHelper]

EBWOP: Because both of them are reveals that cast suspicion on the revealed party.

[S~V~S]

"Lizzy = Jack Torrence"
"Epignosis = Homestar Runner"
"birdwithteeth11 = Lucy"
"Nevinera = Big Daddy (Bouncer)"

We know the Lizzy one was wrong. Looking back, i have seen no evidence of Homestar Runners game show, so that person may be dead, or very, very subtle. So either of those could be faked. I could see fewer reasons to say someone was bad than someone was good (it's a secret role, the baddies could not have known we would get the secrets revealed), but it could go either way. Cred vs. framing. This is actually a very clever role~ kudos to the host who thought it up (INH?).

Linki~ thanks And those faked NKs were on the night Moriarity did not check people?

[insertnamehere]

"Lizzy = Jack Torrence"
"Epignosis = Homestar Runner"
"birdwithteeth11 = Lucy"
"Nevinera = Big Daddy (Bouncer)"

We know the Lizzy one was wrong. Looking back, i have seen no evidence of Homestar Runners game show, so that person may be dead, or very, very subtle. So either of those could be faked. I could see fewer reasons to say someone was bad than someone was good (it's a secret role, the baddies could not have known we would get the secrets revealed), but it could go either way. Cred vs. framing. This is actually a very clever role~ kudos to the host who thought it up (INH?).

Linki~ thanks And those faked NKs were on the night Moriarity did not check people?

The reveal was always accurate in Sherlock mafia. But his role became useless once Lizzy posts her list.

[S~V~S]

EBWOP~ *possible* faked NKs

And linki~ very clever role, i did not play that game.

[DharmaHelper]

"Lizzy = Jack Torrence"
"Epignosis = Homestar Runner"
"birdwithteeth11 = Lucy"
"Nevinera = Big Daddy (Bouncer)"

We know the Lizzy one was wrong. Looking back, i have seen no evidence of Homestar Runners game show, so that person may be dead, or very, very subtle. So either of those could be faked. I could see fewer reasons to say someone was bad than someone was good (it's a secret role, the baddies could not have known we would get the secrets revealed), but it could go either way. Cred vs. framing. This is actually a very clever role~ kudos to the host who thought it up (INH?).

Linki~ thanks And those faked NKs were on the night Moriarity did not check people?

Night 1 (if N1 was faked, as I said it showed up in the post and front page so I dunno) and N3 (which did not show up) so yeah.

[insertnamehere]

EBWOP~ *possible* faked NKs

And linki~ very clever role, i did not play that game.

The Room Mafia, which is going to start any day now, will be similar in that it has open BTSC. Expect lots of wheeling and dealing, less insults, and more spoons.

[thellama73]

The Room Mafia, which is going to start any day now, will be similar in that it has open BTSC. Expect lots of wheeling and dealing, less insults, and more spoons.

Oh is it? Are you sure about that?

[insertnamehere]

The Room Mafia, which is going to start any day now, will be similar in that it has open BTSC. Expect lots of wheeling and dealing, less insults, and more spoons.

Oh is it? Are you sure about that?

Yes, why wouldn't it?

[Nevinera]

N2 and n4 had moriarty reveals with too many targets, and n3 was probably the failed nk on me..
But what about n1? I don't see anything that could be fake except the other nk attempt, but that one seems more legit.

[Spacedaisy]

When he does not find Jack, he can send a proposal to that player the subsequent day period via the host, offering them the use of a night kill. That player has the remainder of the day period to respond to the offer. If they take the offer for the night kill, they will send in a target via PM that subsequent night, but in reality, Delbert will choose the real target, and Delbert's target will be killed. Every time Delbert successfully executes an "offer" kill, he gains one lynch stop. must kill every other player to win (except Jack, ~~ ~~e~ ~e~~ ~~).


Still cracking at this one but it solves the Mycroft Mystery.

This leads me to question how Epi was so sure about the kills showing up that have now been revealed to be form an Indy source which can potentially get a kill if he finds Jack...

I do not think "Alarm Clock" is a Night kill. I think that has more to do with affecting a Day / Night phase (i.e., time). I believe BB got a kill the same way Mycroft did.

Interesting that bea survived a kill from both a civilian and a villain.

At this juncture I think it's clear that Zodac is manipulating the Night polls, probably in the same fashion I have illustrated before. Beware.

AceofSpaces is off the poll.

[dodo]

Amateur sleuthing, Mr. Helper. Worthy of commending.

The rest of you? Ha. Look at you lot. You're all so vacant. Is it nice not being me? It must be so relaxing.

[S~V~S]

[Epignosis]

The rest of you? Ha. Look at you lot. You're all so vacant. Is it nice not being me? It must be so relaxing.

Your mother's nook was vacant until I filled it.

[birdwithteeth11]

Amateur sleuthing, Mr. Helper. Worthy of commending.

The rest of you? Ha. Look at you lot. You're all so vacant. Is it nice not being me? It must be so relaxing.

At least I'm able to overcome my mental and sociological issues.

[Russtifinko]

Hi everyone,

I have a very busy week ahead, including being out of town Thurs. and Fri., and my computer is in its death throes. I'll try to be engaged, but if I don't, that's why. Just fair warning.

I'll probably catch up and decide who to vote tomorrow evening, because I'm tired and frustrated right now and I'll be busy during the day tomorrow.

[DharmaHelper]

Zodac cannot be night killed. Whenever players are voted on during a resurrection or an unblockable kill event, Zodac chooses among all of the players, and his selection is ressurected or killed, whichever is applicable. During an unblockable kill event, the player of Zodac's choosing is killed, regardless of any ability or condition that normally would protect the player from night kills. Zodac is ~~~~~e~ every night ~~~~ ~o~ ~~n~ players are still alive in each faction (civvies, each baddie team, Independents). Additionally, Zodac decides who is lynched in the event of any ties. Can win with any team.

[BigDamnHero]

In fact, as I ponder the circumstances of this scenario, I am convinced the murderer would want to hide himself. Therefore, algeaminranks will receive my vote.

Should he receive yours? Well, that's your decision. I am sticking with my evaluation.

Nonetheless, it should prompt the ignoramus to show himself.

Up yours, aspie. Some of us have actual jobs, ya freebooter.

I think Llama makes some fair points about DharmaHelper quashing discussion, though from my point of view it just seems like it's in DH's self defense that he does so. Llama's participation in this game feels a little bit... different than in other games I've played. I can't quite put my finger on it, but maybe I can elaborate more when my vocabulary ceases to fail me so.

Not to undermine DharmaHelper's intelligence in any way, but the first thought that comes to my mind is that with him being the near-only worker on His Royal Anus's clues is that it would be the perfect way to cover up that he might be one person who has a secret role. Perhaps he's intentionally flubbing some missed translations on purpose to add credence to his innocence?

At this point, I'm all but certain of Dh's civvieness. He helped with the Caesar code bullshit from Avant Day and now he's openly translating Sherlock's code. If he were bad, he could keep all that info to himself and unravel the codes via PM's to the host. instead, he's openly disemminating the information. Granted, there may be the SLIGHTEST of possibilities thatg he's mastermining an elaborate and ballsy baddie agenda but I don't think that is likely.

[BigDamnHero]

Is there a different British spelling for "tumor"? I had no idea.

I feel obliged to mention:

[bea]

anglicize regulars SVS and FH!

Looks like I have liar awesome Flyin High restriction. Yay. stoup Kadaj for your work on the codes! sike will likely be don't than my antisocial self with this restriction.