Pyre Mafia [ENDGAME]

[bronana]

I don't really buy this claim but if people would feel more comfortable voting for tony / carot / long con that's fine. Not feeling a Wilgy yeet.

[VOTE: TonyStark] aubergine

[bronana]

sloonei, do you think it's possible dunya is a wolf who's pocketed you?

[Lissa]

long con is bizarrely hard to get any meaningful traction on relative to his body of work

[Sloonei]

sloonei, do you think it's possible dunya is a wolf who's pocketed you?

Definitely not impossible, but based on my interactive analysis of her and marcher, I would say she is town.

[Sloonei]

long con is bizarrely hard to get any meaningful traction on relative to his body of work

This is how I felt about outed wolf on Day 2.

[bronana]

sloonei, do you think it's possible dunya is a wolf who's pocketed you?

Definitely not impossible, but based on my interactive analysis of her and marcher, I would say she is town.

I can't shake the feeling that she's a wolf who made just enough of the right posts in the right spots to coast on townreads. I don't really recall much pushing of wolves, or solving in general really tbh, and she's gotten a bit of heat from villagy sources. idk, seems like one of those players that later in the game we'll be like "why is this person not getting any suspicion again?" and they turn out to be a wolf.

[bronana]

KZA also pushed dunya more than pretty much anyone else and was nk'd seemingly randomly.

Look at his iso if you get a chance, it's actually a pretty serious and consistent push in that direction.

[MacDougall]

Dunya has been pretty low key. I've hardly even noticed her presence.

[MacDougall]

Bronana is doing the gods work. I am in safe hands.

This is funny.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Okay fuckers I am an alignment cop. I didn't get enough glory to use my role until night 3. On night 3 I got a green on Sloonei.

How did you get glory

[Sloonei]

sloonei, do you think it's possible dunya is a wolf who's pocketed you?

Definitely not impossible, but based on my interactive analysis of her and marcher, I would say she is town.

I can't shake the feeling that she's a wolf who made just enough of the right posts in the right spots to coast on townreads. I don't really recall much pushing of wolves, or solving in general really tbh, and she's gotten a bit of heat from villagy sources. idk, seems like one of those players that later in the game we'll be like "why is this person not getting any suspicion again?" and they turn out to be a wolf.

I’m open to dunya suspicion if not actively on board with it right now.

I can’t do any more heavy lifting this phase though. I am once again at work. I asked for my schedule to be as inconvenient as possible for mafia things.

[Lissa]

i'm... not really that compelled by the non-partner stuff for marcher/dunya

[DrWilgy]

I don't really buy this claim but if people would feel more comfortable voting for tony / carot / long con that's fine. Not feeling a Wilgy yeet.

[VOTE: TonyStark] aubergine

I agree with this. Especially considering I was seeing Sloonei/Mac were alignment dependent upon each other.

Skimmed through TSP again and can confidently vote that way. The progression for their Jovian read went from Look I caught a baddy > Hold up > Actively called Jovain votes lazy.

Skimmed through Cayvie in response to their look at my interactions with KZA feeling weird. I was unimpressed but saw near nothing that relates back to MJ. Cayvie did vote me over Jovian, but I don't know how the votes were stacked at this time.

Skimming through Carot next.

[Lissa]

How well do you [lissa/bronana/outed wolf] know each other? Pretty well, a bit, friendly acquaintances, etc.?

Extremely well. We've played a lot of games together. Hell, I've been playing with Visor for almost a decade now.

Should’ve phrased better, sorry

How well do you read each other? Familiarity doesn’t always translate to readability unfortunately

Eh? a lot of those games are turbos are mashes which aren't super applicable to normal games

It used to be a meme that lissa always townread wolf visor, but I don't think that's as much of a thing anymore

lissa and I pmuch always defend each other as v/v, but have also had games where we got pocketed hard by the other. Partly because we tend to just think about the game in very similar ways.

I think Visor is a good lissa reader, it's why I asked him about her early. But not perfect. If she was wolfing and he wasn't, he'd probably have caught it by now

I honestly don't remember the last time Visor was a wolf in a game with me where I was not also a wolf. Chess Mafia on POG in 2016? Is that really it? wow. anyway I think we reach other decently well, though again not perfectly. Both quick to paranoia on the other, but also plenty of games where we were quick to villabro it up.

I really don't think Lissa is a wolf. I suppose visor (outed wolf) could be, but seems unlikely at this point.

i would never tell anyone to bet a game on my visor read or anything but i think i have a ~reasonable or at least not terrible idea of how to read him at this point

just have to hard block out most tone/feel stuff

[bronana]

EOD is in a little over 1.5 hours btw, everyone

let's get some real wagons going

[Lissa]

EOD is in a little over 1.5 hours btw, everyone

let's get some real wagons going

agree

[VOTE: tony] aubergine

i'd still like to yeet long con but i have no fucking idea how to get anyone to actually care about him and i'd also like this to be a wagon so

gonna swing over here for a bit

[moth]

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

[Sloonei]

i'm... not really that compelled by the non-partner stuff for marcher/dunya

I kinda gave up on it halfway through because I was having a sneezing fit, tbh

[Lissa]

i'm skeptical of the mac claim but i feel better about leaving it today at least

[bronana]

what is your read on sloonei lissa

[outed wolf]

Sup

[Lissa]

what is your read on sloonei lissa

i

had to take a bit earlier to actively filter out just wanting to write him off for volume/effort because i don't think he's someone appropriate to apply that to here

feel like i've taken active issue with enough other people maybe it just makes him a villager but i feel like that's like..... not a good actual thing to conclude from that at all

i feel like i've kept disagreeing with him in ways/contexts that make me feel like he's defending a lot of wolves

[bronana]

what is your read on sloonei lissa

i

had to take a bit earlier to actively filter out just wanting to write him off for volume/effort because i don't think he's someone appropriate to apply that to here

feel like i've taken active issue with enough other people maybe it just makes him a villager but i feel like that's like..... not a good actual thing to conclude from that at all

i feel like i've kept disagreeing with him in ways/contexts that make me feel like he's defending a lot of wolves

saaaaame

[moth]

Why would you feel good about anything?

also my role is messenger. Im a rolecop but the way it works is I choose a player and whoever they voted for theyll get a message giving them a role description if who they had voted.

ive ever had enough power to even use it and I dont know how useful it is unless the person I choose literally voted someone with a very scummy incriminating role

[Sloonei]

Wagons we have or have had today:

DrWilgy
Mac
Moth
Tony

What do we think of each of these four players as of this moment? What names could we consider adding to the list of candidates for elimination today? Is dunya a viable option for people?

[moth]

I chose KZA n1 but was told I only had 0.8 power and therefore was too weak to act. ive never gained power so far

[Lissa]

Wagons we have or have had today:

DrWilgy
Mac
Moth
Tony

What do we think of each of these four players as of this moment? What names could we consider adding to the list of candidates for elimination today? Is dunya a viable option for people?

long con not being among these is ridiculous and he should be a wagon

i can't see actually wagoning dunya today

[bronana]

head over to the shop and buy some glory moth

[Lissa]

jesus fucking christ how many people didn't read the op at all?

i hope you're just a wolf

[moth]

head over to the shop and buy some glory moth

how doth I do that

[moth]

im back from vacation finally too. so im ready for the foootball

[moth]

mac claim is not realistic because he wouldve told us how much power he needed and how he got power

[bronana]

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[moth]

all my stats are listed at 0.8

[outed wolf]

I think I can semi confirm Mac's claim

[outed wolf]

We could always Lynch motobot lmao

[Sloonei]

what is your read on sloonei lissa

i

had to take a bit earlier to actively filter out just wanting to write him off for volume/effort because i don't think he's someone appropriate to apply that to here

feel like i've taken active issue with enough other people maybe it just makes him a villager but i feel like that's like..... not a good actual thing to conclude from that at all

i feel like i've kept disagreeing with him in ways/contexts that make me feel like he's defending a lot of wolves

saaaaame

If it helps to settle me at all, since I’m a player who typically gets resolved early (especially when I’m bad), my strategy is usually to make sure my partners are difficult to trace back to me in the aftermath of my flip. I am more likely to bus aggressively than defend my teammates.

I can link games.

[moth]

id be fine eliminatin dunya, long con, nanook, caro, wilgy, zack, or mac

[Lissa]

id be fine eliminatin dunya, long con, nanook, caro, wilgy, zack, or mac

man that is

quite a list

[moth]

rally up gang

[moth]

id be fine eliminatin dunya, long con, nanook, caro, wilgy, zack, or mac

man that is

quite a list

[bronana]

what is your read on sloonei lissa

i

had to take a bit earlier to actively filter out just wanting to write him off for volume/effort because i don't think he's someone appropriate to apply that to here

feel like i've taken active issue with enough other people maybe it just makes him a villager but i feel like that's like..... not a good actual thing to conclude from that at all

i feel like i've kept disagreeing with him in ways/contexts that make me feel like he's defending a lot of wolves

saaaaame

If it helps to settle me at all, since I’m a player who typically gets resolved early (especially when I’m bad), my strategy is usually to make sure my partners are difficult to trace back to me in the aftermath of my flip. I am more likely to bus aggressively than defend my teammates.

I can link games.

is that why dunya tried to tell me you were lock town because you would've bussed marcher earlier?

my problem is she already had you as top town before that, so it feels like tmi a bit.

[bronana]

tonystark / long con / carot / dunya

the team?

[Lissa]

tonystark / long con / carot / dunya

the team?

could definitely be

[Carotenoid]

yop i'm catching up

hmn what is.. an alignment cop?

[Sloonei]

what is your read on sloonei lissa

i

had to take a bit earlier to actively filter out just wanting to write him off for volume/effort because i don't think he's someone appropriate to apply that to here

feel like i've taken active issue with enough other people maybe it just makes him a villager but i feel like that's like..... not a good actual thing to conclude from that at all

i feel like i've kept disagreeing with him in ways/contexts that make me feel like he's defending a lot of wolves

saaaaame

If it helps to settle me at all, since I’m a player who typically gets resolved early (especially when I’m bad), my strategy is usually to make sure my partners are difficult to trace back to me in the aftermath of my flip. I am more likely to bus aggressively than defend my teammates.

I can link games.

is that why dunya tried to tell me you were lock town because you would've bussed marcher earlier?

my problem is she already had you as top town before that, so it feels like tmi a bit.

Probably, yeah.

[Sloonei]

id be fine eliminatin dunya, long con, nanook, caro, wilgy, zack, or mac

Intentioinal Biiiig Salad

[Sloonei]

If Mac and wilgy are both town then EoD 3 was one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen. Not saying it’s impossible, but like

[Lissa]

wagons feel so stuck right now

[Celeste]

I agree Ti'Zo was a loyal Drive Imp, but we must move on. The Scribes require it of us.

I have made my decision.