Quicksilver wrote:
As for Longshot, he was merely asking me questions over and over andnot wrecking anything and trying to understand why I did certain things. The quote you pulled ^^^was from him trying to understand me and he asked several times for me to answer after that quote if you look back. He even mentioned he wanted clarity even though I said I was tired of defended so much. I finally answered which is why there aren't many back and forth from us.
I take it as a Civ trying to understand another Civ reasoning. He also did NOT vote me which gained some trust with me. When I made the post about the experiment, I said "...but there are people volunteering I would comfortable with (Longshot) also." I'd be okay voting for him, White Queen, or Phoenix for the poll. But, none of those want to try it except Longshot. I appreciate anyone who tried to save me by voting for TB also, even though he also turned out to be Civ and not. Bad :/
I may have tried emotional appeal to help not die this early, but I was being targeted. I get a little frantic sometimes when I know I'm Civ.
Hmm. I suppose I read your exchange with Longshot differently than you experienced it. That's fair. Thanks for the response.
Quicksilver wrote:I think some voters on T bird were bad to try to get him out first and then me second.
This makes no sense. At all.
Baddies have 2 goal:
1) Do not die. (Avoid death by avoiding suspicion.)
2) Kill civs.
Your theory doesn't fit this framework, because if you were both civ, why do baddies care in what order you two get lynched? They could just as easily have let you be lynched and gotten Tbird today as lynched Tbird and then you, right? Are you somehow more dangerous to them than he is?
In my experience as a baddie, getting
any civ is success. If these baddies are targeting individuals just because they can, they're light years ahead of me and they're also some cocky mofos, and we're all doomed.
In fact, its fairly common knowledge that baddies sometimes lead lynch trains, and that it's always or at least almost always to save a teammate. That is because it's the only case where they have an incentive to risk suspicion. It risks death to avoid death.
I get that you mean if people saw a bandwagon they'd assume what we're assuming now and lynch you today. I just don't see it, though. Why expose themselves to the risk of being lynched in revenge for their last-minute votes just to set you, and unknown, up for death, when they could easily lay low and get any other player (or even potentially Thunderbird) today?
Your theory is wrong. I can say that with confidence because it doesn't match the baddies' goals. Furthermore, most experienced players (and there are bound to be some in a team of 7) know that steering lynches too hard gets you caught, almost every time. If yesterday truly was a bandwagon, it ONLY makes sense if you're bad.
You're giving me huge problems. Sometimes seeming sincere and sometimes not, and to my mind never seeming logical, which is making you hard for me to read accurately. You are definitely seeming emotional and panicky to me (which is understandable no matter what your role, given the high degree of suspicion on you, but I can't decide if it makes you look baddie to me). I feel like I need to decide about you quickly, too, especially since I brought up the point that many people used in deciding to vote for you.
(By the way, I hope you don't take anything I'm saying personally. I've been saying you don't seem logical, and I just realized that could come off as insulting. I don't mean to demean your intelligence, just to state that you're consistently arriving at conclusions I never would, and that that perplexes me because we're looking at the same information.)
RIP again Thunderbird 
