X-Men [ENDGAME]

[Gunther]

Yes, I did, and I'm not sure Apocalypse can be role blocked.

Can't be lynched
Can't be Nightkilled
Can't be blocked

That is a powerful role. What makes you think he can't be blocked?

Hawkeye..bro..you are bending logic to support your ideas. You aren't taking evidence as it actually exists. You are coming up with what if scenarios and presenting them as if they are truth. First it was Sunfire being Rogue equals you are a civvie. I still don't understand the logic behind that one. And now it's Rasputin equals civvie because he seemingly survived a night kill when there are other scenarios at play.....blocks, protections, night polls, etc. You don't acknowledge them and then you cover it by saying, "Oh, I don't think Apocalypse can be blocked." What the hell?

[Ned Flanders]

Sorry to rain on your parade Apocalypse and Friends, but there was not a single Brotherhood member at work here (or if there actually was, that's purely coincidental), it was all me. I've been suspecting WQ as scum for quite some time, and by the looks of it, I wasn't that far from being wrong, but I had no evidence to support that. The other day she made those statements regarding her survival, so I thought that's as good as it gets. I was going to vote for Havok and I did, but after that I realized with all the redirected powers, that if Magneto was still alive, his could have been as well, so I took a risk. Yes, Spiral and Polaris, unknowingly happened to help with the numbers, so if one of them is a member of the Brotherhood, I suppose you can say there were baddies involved, but they basically had no idea.

I see WQ and Havok keep bringing up Rasputin = baddie leader of some sort, when there is clear evidence IN the thread, not info dumping or anything else, that he survived a night kill in a game where baddies don't have that ability. Looking back at it all, it makes sense. WQ targeted Rasputin on Night 4, and something tells me Rasputin returned the favor on Night 5.

People keep saying this about the baddies, yet they continuously explain anything ELSE unusual by saying, "Oh prizes".

No baddies can survive? Oh, prizes.

I think he is as bad as it comes. And I think you are, and I think Polaris is. Spiral, not so sure.

So for now I am going to vote Hawkeye & Polaris to target each other. Lets discuss who we should vote for today and why.

[Ned Flanders]

Honestly... havok turning against hawkeye and rasputin looks kinda bad to me. they're both players that i've seen as good for a while and they have thread evidence proving that, or at least indicating that...

I just don't really see where havok is coming from with this if he's civ.

for those wishing there were a screencap of the poll the next best thing:

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Poll ended at Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:06 pm

Havok
5
Mikhail Rasputin (2), Longshot (3), Shadowcat (4), Banshee (12), Phoenix (14)
33%

Marrow
1
The Vision (5)
7%

Mikhail Rasputin
5
White Queen (6), Avalanche (7), Marrow (9), Havok (10), Deadpool (11)
33%

White Queen
3
Spiral (8), Hawkeye (13), Polaris (15)
20%

The host posts all the polls in a thread. Polaris was the first Rasputin voter, then switched to me to be the last voter overall.

You are the second person today to use the term "thread evidence" to defend Rasputin; Hawkeye was the other. Care to point up thread evidence?

[Joe Who?]

I was referring to the Rasputin survival thing and rogue's apparent vouches.

Though I admit I hadn't considered the possibility of prizes, how many contests have there been?

[Celeste]

I'm going with Havok and Mikhail. I was pretty sure about both of them, but after those lynch results, I feel like switching their targets around would give us the most information possible.

[Ned Flanders]

I switched from Hawkeye to Mikhail, that also works for me, since I think we should make people we DON'T trust target each other. This way civvies won't accidentally Ninja each other

[Lunatella]

I'm sorry I missed the vote yesterday. It was my dad's fault.

I'm voting for Avalanche and Spiral.

[Paul Stevens]

I'm going with Havok and Mikhail. I was pretty sure about both of them, but after those lynch results, I feel like switching their targets around would give us the most information possible.

I hate to look like a tagalong, but I was having the same idea with those two, since the lynch didn't give us any good information and I'd like to see the results. Voting that way for now (not sure when/if I'll be back today).

[Snapshot]

Went with Avalanche and Mikhail!

[Rachel Green]

I'm going with Avalanche and Rasputin.

[Gunther]

I do not want to win this....especially if Rasputin is the other leading vote getter. voted Mikhail and Avalanche.

[2 Stupid Dogs]

I didn't say Polaris wasn't bad. You're doing that thing again where you don't read what I'm posting. I said, if you or Polaris are bad, then yes, members of the Brotherhood have been involved, but without their knowledge. And of course I'm not bad. Sunfire and his role. And I just love how you jumped on your yesterday's 'partners in crime'. Trust me, if I were bad, Havok would not be here arguing.

You're soooo bad, this isn't even funny.

[dodo]

Hey guys. What's going on? I haven't been paying attention.







...or have I?

[Gunther]

I hope you have. lol

[Nicol Bolas]

imma vote mikhail and the queen for this one heh heh heh maybe they can learn somethin bout each other

[Young Lady]

How things have changed.

[Jack Shephard]

I'm sorry I missed the vote yesterday. It was my dad's fault.

I'm voting for Avalanche and Spiral.

You weren't silenced? That means no one was silenced yesterday.

[Ned Flanders]

This is where we are right now. The last few people are cut off, Deadpool voted for me.

[Ned Flanders]

Oh, and these two have targeted Spiral, I missed that initially:

Sebastian Shaw (7), Hawkeye (23)

[Ned Flanders]

*voted not targeted

[Epignosis]

T-minus 30 minutes and counting.

[Ned Flanders]

I feel better about Havok than Avalanche, tbh. So I am going to move my vote there, to Avalanche. Maybe the Morlocks will save him if Rasputin is bad

I would rather neutralize baddie night powers than civvie night powers.

[Epignosis]

Who will target each other? Select two.

Poll runs till Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:54 pm
You may select up to 2 options

Avalanche
6
Sebastian Shaw (5), The Vision (10), Havok (12), Longshot (13), Hawkeye (21), White Queen (25)
24%

Banshee
0
No votes

Deadpool
0
No votes

Havok
3
Shadowcat (2), Phoenix (8), Avalanche (15)
12%

Hawkeye
1
Spiral (18)
4%

Longshot
0
No votes

Marrow
0
No votes

Mikhail Rasputin
9
Shadowcat (3), White Queen (4), Phoenix (7), The Vision (9), Havok (11), Longshot (14), Avalanche (16), Deadpool (19), Polaris (23)
36%

Phoenix
0
No votes

Polaris
1
Spiral (17)
4%

Sebastian Shaw
1
Polaris (24)
4%

Shadowcat
0
No votes

Spiral
2
Sebastian Shaw (6), Hawkeye (22)
8%

The Vision
0
No votes

White Queen
1
Deadpool (20)
4%

Skaar (The Host, the Mod, the Non)
1
Epignosis (1)
4%


Total votes : 25

[dodo]

I feel better about Havok than Avalanche, tbh. So I am going to move my vote there, to Avalanche. Maybe the Morlocks will save him if Rasputin is bad

I would rather neutralize baddie night powers than civvie night powers.

Hey, what happened to our survivors alliance? Weak sauce, my dear.

I was going to target Rasputin anyway, though, so no biggie.

[Epignosis]

Just How Savage Are We Talking?

Mikhail Rasputin was attempting to study the topography of The Savage Land when a missile struck the top of a rocky formation. The resultant landslide buried him. When he dug his way out, he found a microchip. “This was a gift from a sentinel,” he said.

Hawkeye was target practicing against pterodactyls when one of them, guided by some unseen influence, returned the attack. It bit into Hawkeye’s shoulder, but Hawkeye grabbed the flying reptile by its neck and crushed it.

No one has been killed.

Danger Room ID acquired: 001… Quicksilver

It is now Day 7. You have 48 hours to destroy someone.

[Epignosis]

A message from Professor X:

X-Men? More like Hex Men! It's like you all are cursed!

[Nicol Bolas]

good one prof x

but why do u insist on tauntin ur students. plz give us some guidance next time professor. im fuckin lost out here!!!!

[dodo]

good one prof x

but why do u insist on tauntin ur students. plz give us some guidance next time professor. im fuckin lost out here!!!!

Oh, I think you know what is going on all too well. All. Too. Well.

[Nicol Bolas]

lol avalanche whats it like bein the leader of the morlocks bro are they as bad as u once thought? have u come to love them and to cherish them as if their your own family??

[dodo]

lol avalanche whats it like bein the leader of the morlocks bro are they as bad as u once thought? have u come to love them and to cherish them as if their your own family??

I have no memory of my life before the Morlocks.

[Nicol Bolas]

mikhail rasputin aint on the poll what is this new devilry

[dodo]

mikhail rasputin aint on the poll what is this new devilry

Wasn't me.

[Gunther]

Shadowcat, Polaris, or Hawkeye today IMO. :nod:

[2 Stupid Dogs]

lol avalanche whats it like bein the leader of the morlocks bro are they as bad as u once thought? have u come to love them and to cherish them as if their your own family??

I have no memory of my life before the Morlocks.

lol u recruit?

[dodo]

lol avalanche whats it like bein the leader of the morlocks bro are they as bad as u once thought? have u come to love them and to cherish them as if their your own family??

I have no memory of my life before the Morlocks.

lol u recruit?

The more the merrier!

[Joe Who?]

it looks like both rasputin and hawkeye were attacked last night and both survived... interesting...

isn't that rasputin's 2nd night survival?

[Rachel Green]

it looks like both rasputin and hawkeye were attacked last night and both survived... interesting...

isn't that rasputin's 2nd night survival?

Yes, wasn't the other an attach by Apocalypse? Also, Banshee or anyone, does the part of this post about the sentinel make sense to anyone? I'm obviously missing something about how they operate because i don't understand the reference.

[Joe Who?]

I just assumed it meant that the sentinels targeted mikhail rasputin.

[dodo]

Banshee, what do you know that you aren't telling?

[Joe Who?]

what do you mean? i don't really have to know anything special... it's right there in the post

Mikhail Rasputin was attempting to study the topography of The Savage Land when a missile struck the top of a rocky formation. The resultant landslide buried him. When he dug his way out, he found a microchip. “This was a gift from a sentinel,” he said.

it can be assumed that the microchip was embedded in the missile. oftentimes when people send missiles at each other, they'll leave a message saying who it was from. or at least that's what happens on tv.

or were you talking about something else?

[Snapshot]

Shadowcat, Polaris, or Hawkeye today IMO. :nod:

I'm in.

[Joe Who?]

*extremely sceptical*

[Snapshot]

If we're going to remain split down two rough lines, with Team Havok and Team Mikhail, I'll take Team Havok.

[Ned Flanders]

it looks like both rasputin and hawkeye were attacked last night and both survived... interesting...

isn't that rasputin's 2nd night survival?

Yes, now we have had three people survive, and only two roles in the list that show that

Hmmm, maybe all NK survivals are not role related?? In addition to the two roles that can survive NKs, we have a baddie blocker (to of them, actually), at least one civ role with secrets, a civ who can protect, oh prizes, indys with secrets. Yeah. So lots of ways to survive an NK other than being one of to roles.

In any case, I read the night post as he potentially got a gift from the Sentinels. Becasue that is what the post said, lol.

Mikhail Rasputin was attempting to study the topography of The Savage Land when a missile struck the top of a rocky formation. The resultant landslide buried him. When he dug his way out, he found a microchip. “This was a gift from a sentinel,” he said.

You may be right and it was an NK, but I am not so sure of that.

If we're going to remain split down two rough lines, with Team Havok and Team Mikhail, I'll take Team Havok.

Me too.

it looks like both rasputin and hawkeye were attacked last night and both survived... interesting...

isn't that rasputin's 2nd night survival?

Yes, wasn't the other an attach by Apocalypse? Also, Banshee or anyone, does the part of this post about the sentinel make sense to anyone? I'm obviously missing something about how they operate because i don't understand the reference.

Can you point out to me where it says the other was an attack from Apocalypse?

Hawkeye was target practicing against pterodactyls when one of them, guided by some unseen influence, returned the attack. It bit into Hawkeye’s shoulder, but Hawkeye grabbed the flying reptile by its neck and crushed it.

I know little about X Men, but looked up Apocalypse, and could find nothing about Pterodactlys, but since there is a lot of literature, I may have missed this reference. How do you know who targeted Hawkeye?

[Gunther]

It sounded like to me that the Savage Land itself was attacking Hawkeye. Not sure if that relates directly to Apocalypse or not.

[Ned Flanders]

I wrote "to" twice, I meant "two". Not enough coffee yet, lol.

linki; I just looked THAT up, and in one of the many story lines involving the Savage Land, Apocalypse was involved, the Age of Apocalypse storyline. But pretty much every other role has been involved in a Savage Land storyline as well, based on a quick skim. I think that is reading in to it a bit. In the Earth X universe, the Savage Land is where Magneto built his sanctuary called Sentinel City. After the events of Second Coming during the Heroic Age storyline, Cyclops goes hunting in The Savage Land. Etc.

So possible, but I still think that is reading into it a bit, unless Banshee has info, maybe blocked someone he thinks is Apocalypse and makes me want to take a harder look at Banshee.

[Ned Flanders]

Correction, Longshot, not Banshee. Longshot was quoting Banshee; Longshot said he thought the attempt on Hawkeye was by Apocalypse, and I am not sure how he would know that. Because the post certainly does not say that.

Sorry Banshee

[Operator]

Well, interesting couple of days!

So, now we know White Queen is Apocalypse. And we know Magneto is still alive and isn't inactive. So I feel a little vindicated; Apocalypse isn't Brotherhood, but he doesn't exactly seem good either.

White Queen, to address your question, yes the Sentinels tried to kill me, and no I didn't get any gifts from them. Why would an indy role give gifts?

it looks like both rasputin and hawkeye were attacked last night and both survived... interesting...

isn't that rasputin's 2nd night survival?

Yes, now we have had three people survive, and only two roles in the list that show that

Hmmm, maybe all NK survivals are not role related?? In addition to the two roles that can survive NKs, we have a baddie blocker (to of them, actually), at least one civ role with secrets, a civ who can protect, oh prizes, indys with secrets. Yeah. So lots of ways to survive an NK other than being one of to roles.

In any case, I read the night post as he potentially got a gift from the Sentinels. Becasue that is what the post said, lol.

Mikhail Rasputin was attempting to study the topography of The Savage Land when a missile struck the top of a rocky formation. The resultant landslide buried him. When he dug his way out, he found a microchip. “This was a gift from a sentinel,” he said.

You may be right and it was an NK, but I am not so sure of that.

If we're going to remain split down two rough lines, with Team Havok and Team Mikhail, I'll take Team Havok.

Me too.

it looks like both rasputin and hawkeye were attacked last night and both survived... interesting...

isn't that rasputin's 2nd night survival?

Yes, wasn't the other an attach by Apocalypse? Also, Banshee or anyone, does the part of this post about the sentinel make sense to anyone? I'm obviously missing something about how they operate because i don't understand the reference.

Can you point out to me where it says the other was an attack from Apocalypse?

Hawkeye was target practicing against pterodactyls when one of them, guided by some unseen influence, returned the attack. It bit into Hawkeye’s shoulder, but Hawkeye grabbed the flying reptile by its neck and crushed it.

I know little about X Men, but looked up Apocalypse, and could find nothing about Pterodactlys, but since there is a lot of literature, I may have missed this reference. How do you know who targeted Hawkeye?

WQ, it doesn't explicitly say it was in this post, but c'mon. You're not being that unpredictable. I and Hawkeye have both gunned for you at different times, and we both have mysterious, sourceless NK attempts against us? Not that hard to figure out.

[Operator]

I just have trouble supporting a case against him because I agree with his view on Mikhail. Between the two, I'd prefer a lynch of Mikhail. Voting Mikhail now.

rasputin bro yesterday u said u knew who all the baddies were so today i expected you 2 b makin some cases and leadin the civvie wolf pack but now here we are and earlier u said the viz and white queen were our best options but you brought up no points about them and now ur votin for havok. the only question i got for u is wtf m8?

imma vote for rasputin i love ya raspy but you been soundin like a bad guy to me l8ly

So these two things kinda came out of nowhere, imo. And Deadpool, idk what you were expecting from me yesterday. "Lead the civ Wolf Pack"? I've been making cases on all 3 of those players for days and days now. At some point you guys have to read back and make your own decisions instead of just acting like any new post is the Word of God.

Obviously picking Havok yesterday didn't work out so well, but we did get some valuable info from it. I was more or less right about one of those three, you think it's such a stretch I was right about the other two?

[Operator]

And finally, you can try to rationalize what Rasputin said all you want. It was still a threat to make a case on me. That's what he did. He threatened to make a case on me and convince others to vote for me as well. Civvies don't threaten to make cases. They make cases.

BULLSHIT. I'm sorry, but STOP FUCKING SAYING THIS. I HAD FINALS!

That is all.

Yeah, I think it's quite likely that Polaris and Hawkeye are Brotherhood.

Here's how I think it went down. It was an even day following an odd night, so the Brotherhood picked two players to have their votes moved to a third party. I ended up with 5 votes as did Mikhail Rasputin. Leading up to the last 30 minutes or so of the lynch White Queen only had 1 vote. She had to be the target of Magneto to receive the votes from 2 other players. I think all of the votes that were on me went to her. I don't think they targeted Mikhail Rasputin because I don't think they thought he would be receiving votes after setting me up so nicely yesterday. I think it's likely that Vision was also targeted but he didn't receive any votes. Polaris and Hawkeye changed their votes to White Queen because if they hadn't either Rasputin or me would have been lynched, and with Cyclops still out there and the vote being a tie with their guy Rasputin they couldn't risk it. So they moved their votes and WQ ended up with 3 visible votes. Move my visible votes to White Queen and she has 8. 8-5 White Queen.

I have been leaning civvie on Hawkeye for the entire game, but now I think he's likely Brotherhood.

Nice turnaround, bro.

I have been meaning to ask Hawkeye, though: you claimed full credit for the attempted lynch of White Queen yesterday. Care to explain? I don't really see how that's possible.