It's a Mysterious Universe (D6)

[Vulgard]

We're at three "second votes being placed on someone" from vulgard now

And that matters... why? What do you think this means about my alignment? Or Alison's alignment, or Poison's?
This comment looks really random. Why does this matter to you?

It feels like you don't know where to go. You make big long posts with every vote, don't say anything about them, then switch your vote later after not getting any traction. That's wolfy but it might also be "I'm in a game where I've played with three people and I don't have Arete" and I need to find some footing. I think it disaligns you and Alison, says nothing else.

I literally just said that I never know what I'm doing on day 1, so that's really not AI in and of itself.
I think my vote on Poison pretty much follows my thoughts about her (it also wasn't influenced by Alison's post in the slightest, although it's comforting to be on the same wagon as my townread). The vote on Marmot was a pressure vote that lost its meaning as soon as I learned that Marmot always selfvoted regardless of everything.

Do you know where to go? Is your vote on LC OMGUS?

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei Have you explained why you're voting Mac at any point?

No.

I need to learn how to use mentions here.

@Sloonei this should work. Why are you voting Mac?

I wanted to at the time.

[Poison]

...Wait. Why's Marmot selfvoting?

Why are you Marmotvoting?

Because I want Marmot to do something other than selfvote, although I suppose that me saying that now defeats the purpose of my vote.

Meh.

I'm not sure what to do about Poison. I'm in a weird situation here. I think her play this game has been close to her mafia play... in an off-site game I read, but NOT the last game I played with her here, when she was mafia and fooled me. I dislike the fact her reads seem rather forced, and she seems to be struggling to find her footing in this game. The biggest thing going for her right now is postcount, because it shows that she is not afraid of voicing her thoughts, but there hasn't really been anything in her posts that made me think "this must come from town." I'm also more paranoid of her scumgame after the last game we played.

Alison is town, because I think that her thought processes not only make perfect sense, but show a lack of TMI. I might be severely underestimating her scumgame, but I think the complexity of her thoughts would be difficult to replicate as mafia. I think that if she were mafia trying to fake these thoughts, the thoughts would make less sense. But what she is saying is cohesive, I understand where she is coming from (for the most part), and she is being fairly consistent. I wrote that I did not like her early townread on Long Con, and she mostly ignored it in a way I also found very towny. There is just this air of stubbornness and confidence around Alison which I really could hardly see as coming from mafia.

TSP is town because he's actually solving in this game and he wasn't really solving in his last one. Or at least, some of his posts looked like he was solving, which is a notable improvement in comparison to the last mafia game I have seen from him. That said, the read is getting weaker, because I'm starting to see him shift back to his "I do not actually care about solving" approach. I also find the lack of shitposting very odd. Could potentially be mafia overcompensating for how I caught him last game...?
For now, I think the differences are notable enough, and I think he still deserves a townread, but I can see a world where he's mafia trying to appease me specifically, since I caught him last game and got nightkilled right after. I didn't have 100% confidence in my last game read, but it was correct, and it makes sense for mafia!TSP to play specifically in a way to fool me here. Although, maybe I'm overestimating my potential impact.
I'm getting sidetracked. The conclusion here is that I'm still fairly confident TSP is town, but I do see a singular world where he's mafia. I don't really think he's mafia, though.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

I'm not going to get anything from Marmot if they always selfvote like this. Would still like to see more than a selfvote, though.

By the way, @Enrique; how new are you to the game? Or did you already say it and I missed it? There's a read I have on you which only applies in case you answer in a specific way. I'm not saying what it is yet.

since I kinds scum read both you and Alison, and it is just funny that both of you are voting me. The funnier thing is, you guys don't know my town play Alison knows my 3p play, and you know my mafia. Funny how you said both of my games are similar, when I barely posted 20 post that game with almost no reads or no digging.

If you and Alison are scum together this is gonna be fun. But gut read says you two are not scum together

[Poison]

We're at three "second votes being placed on someone" from vulgard now

And that matters... why? What do you think this means about my alignment? Or Alison's alignment, or Poison's?
This comment looks really random. Why does this matter to you?

It feels like you don't know where to go. You make big long posts with every vote, don't say anything about them, then switch your vote later after not getting any traction. That's wolfy but it might also be "I'm in a game where I've played with three people and I don't have Arete" and I need to find some footing. I think it disaligns you and Alison, says nothing else.

I literally just said that I never know what I'm doing on day 1, so that's really not AI in and of itself.
I think my vote on Poison pretty much follows my thoughts about her (it also wasn't influenced by Alison's post in the slightest, although it's comforting to be on the same wagon as my townread). The vote on Marmot was a pressure vote that lost its meaning as soon as I learned that Marmot always selfvoted regardless of everything.

Do you know where to go? Is your vote on LC OMGUS?

A pressure vote? That early? On the guy who is self voting?

[Sloonei]

Poison's ISO reminds me of Hally's from the Champs finale.

Hally was mafia.

[Poison]

Like I don't SR everyone just everyone's pinged me

Town.

[Poison]

Poison's ISO reminds me of Hally's from the Champs finale.

Hally was mafia.

Busted. I thought I changed a few lines while copying, just to fool the teachers. Damn!

[Poison]

Hally rn : "Karma, Poison"

[nutella]

[mention]Vulgard[/mention] fwiw Enrique isn't new but he hasn't played in a few years since the culture of the site was p different and he's prob just not accustomed to some of the terminology being used. If that helps. Like he's an experienced player but used to different norms and terms

[Poison]

@Vulgard fwiw Enrique isn't new but he hasn't played in a few years since the culture of the site was p different and he's prob just not accustomed to some of the terminology being used. If that helps. Like he's an experienced player but used to different norms and terms

Yeah I got pretty confused with his question about hammering

[nutella]

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Actually think I agree with this.

This post and vote is so bad that idk makes me scum read you more.

That's some clunky distancing, you guys.

Maybe

Smh I messed up my formatting I never do that It's hidden but I agree with Alison on Poison being probable scum

[Poison]

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Actually think I agree with this.

This post and vote is so bad that idk makes me scum read you more.

That's some clunky distancing, you guys.

Maybe

Smh I messed up my formatting I never do that It's hidden but I agree with Alison on Poison being probable scum

But I'm scum with LordQuas.

[nutella]

Because I want Marmot to do something other than selfvote, although I suppose that me saying that now defeats the purpose of my vote.

.....didn't you vote him before realizing he had a self vote

what

surely you had a reason prior to that

[Poison]

Oh no one is here to get the joke, my bad, that was an epic fail. I can never be a comedian.

[nutella]

I think her play this game has been close to her mafia play... in an off-site game I read, but NOT the last game I played with her here, when she was mafia and fooled me.

I think her play is actually quite similar to that last game and I think she maybe even has a couple tells

[nutella]

if I haven't said so already let me put it on the record that TSP is 100000000% town

[nutella]

We're at three "second votes being placed on someone" from vulgard now

fun fact

[Poison]

I think her play this game has been close to her mafia play... in an off-site game I read, but NOT the last game I played with her here, when she was mafia and fooled me.

I think her play is actually quite similar to that last game and I think she maybe even has a couple tells

I'm pretty sure my play is quite not similar if you compare it with the last game. But I would suggest you not to go with my meta, I have mixed up everything, all alignments.

[Poison]

if I haven't said so already let me put it on the record that TSP is 100000000% town

Yeah I was the first one to say that! I totally believe in my ex scummate. He has changed his lifestyle. He is a clean man now.

[Alison]

1) If you think I am distancing from Poison, then help me bus her.

2) The interactions between Poison and TSP these past few pages are super teammate indicative.

3) I am suspicious of Vulgard pocketing me.

[Poison]

If vul/Alison flip red, nutella is town probably.

[Alison]

if I haven't said so already let me put it on the record that TSP is 100000000% town

I really don't agree, he's in my top three POE and I'm trying to decide if he's my 2nd or 3rd highest suspect.

[Poison]

1) If you think I am distancing from Poison, then help me bus her.

2) The interactions between Poison and TSP these past few pages are super teammate indicative.

3) I am suspicious of Vulgard pocketing me.

Yes he was angry that I bussed him last game, so I'm bring nice teammate this game

[Poison]

if I haven't said so already let me put it on the record that TSP is 100000000% town

I really don't agree, he's in my top three POE and I'm trying to decide if he's my 2nd or 3rd highest suspect.

Your PoE gives me horrors

[Syn]

I can't tell if Poison is open wolfing or just yolking around

[Poison]

Alison, you were more of a let's-form-the-town-core person right? Tell me about your sudden shift.

[Poison]

I can't tell if Poison is open wolfing or just yolking around

I randed Donald Trump. So I'm Trumping around.

[Syn]

An argument that Alison is wolf because of the Poison interaction is a stretch. Alison wouldn't be caught dead doing something as weak as that. I don't have as much experience with her as you guys but what I've seen leads me to believe a tactic like that would be extremely "beneath" her.

[nutella]

2) The interactions between Poison and TSP these past few pages are super teammate indicative.

hard disagree. pocket indicative. and tsp was already lock town

[Syn]

I'm getting the best vibes from TSP, Sloonei, Nutella, and LC, but that might be flood bias; they're exceptionally active and asking questions, so I might just be town-reading activity instead of substance.

[nutella]

I can't tell if Poison is open wolfing or just yolking around

let me pull a couple things up gimme a min. spice incoming

[Poison]

An argument that Alison is wolf because of the Poison interaction is a stretch. Alison wouldn't be caught dead doing something as weak as that. I don't have as much experience with her as you guys but what I've seen leads me to believe a tactic like that would be extremely "beneath" her.

Tbh, I think she is a great wolf, specially from her self meta last game and interactions on discord, she gave me quite a few tips to play as mafia. But her play is Quite different than her last town game.

[Poison]

I can't tell if Poison is open wolfing or just yolking around

let me pull a couple things up gimme a min. spice incoming

I like spice. Hype.

[Poison]

I would go to bed after the spicy meal.

[nutella]

hypothesis: poison scumclaims as scum


poison in her last scum game:

so i also think poison chan is wolfing but have her as not w/w with vulgard

okay so tell me who are my woof woof partners?

If Poison's mafia, I don't think I'm getting there today unless somebody yells at me and says something like "THIS IS MAFIA POISON BY META, KILL HER NOW!!!"

THIS IS POISON'S MAFIA META. go.

Poison, could this be the game where you finally wanted to replicate your town play and hyper post?

yes, ted, this is the game i wanted to replicate my town play and hyper post.

poison in this game:

People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

This post kinda pings me.

Why exactly?

Because you're setting up an excuse to sheep Sloonei while putting the responsibility of the exe on his shoulders and implying that if he is wrong he is mafia.

I see. I'll keep that in mind and try not to slip next time.

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

I wear a pink skirt as mafia wdym?

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Actually think I agree with this.

This post and vote is so bad that idk makes me scum read you more.

That's some clunky distancing, you guys.

Maybe

told them not to do it so badly.

Poison's ISO reminds me of Hally's from the Champs finale.

Hally was mafia.

Busted. I thought I changed a few lines while copying, just to fool the teachers. Damn!

also it kinda feels like she has tmi on some ppl eg tsp

[VOTE: poison] aubergine

[Poison]

hypothesis: poison scumclaims as scum


poison in her last scum game:

so i also think poison chan is wolfing but have her as not w/w with vulgard

okay so tell me who are my woof woof partners?

If Poison's mafia, I don't think I'm getting there today unless somebody yells at me and says something like "THIS IS MAFIA POISON BY META, KILL HER NOW!!!"

THIS IS POISON'S MAFIA META. go.

Poison, could this be the game where you finally wanted to replicate your town play and hyper post?

yes, ted, this is the game i wanted to replicate my town play and hyper post.

poison in this game:

People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

This post kinda pings me.

Why exactly?

Because you're setting up an excuse to sheep Sloonei while putting the responsibility of the exe on his shoulders and implying that if he is wrong he is mafia.

I see. I'll keep that in mind and try not to slip next time.

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

I wear a pink skirt as mafia wdym?

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Actually think I agree with this.

This post and vote is so bad that idk makes me scum read you more.

That's some clunky distancing, you guys.

Maybe

told them not to do it so badly.

Poison's ISO reminds me of Hally's from the Champs finale.

Hally was mafia.

Busted. I thought I changed a few lines while copying, just to fool the teachers. Damn!

also it kinda feels like she has tmi on some ppl eg tsp

[VOTE: poison] aubergine

Jajajhahahahajajja

I cannot wait for you to read me next game.

[Syn]

oh, that's spicy

[Alison]

Alison, you were more of a let's-form-the-town-core person right? Tell me about your sudden shift.

I'm not. If I get a bunch of townreads early on I try to form a towncore. If I get a bunch of scumreads early on I try to murder them. If I don't understand what's happening or have nullreads on everyone I try to find one read I'm confident in and stick with it (sheeping them if it's a townread or hard pushing them if it's a scumread). I believe in tailoring my strategy to the game at hand.

[Poison]

hypothesis: poison scumclaims as scum


poison in her last scum game:

so i also think poison chan is wolfing but have her as not w/w with vulgard

okay so tell me who are my woof woof partners?

If Poison's mafia, I don't think I'm getting there today unless somebody yells at me and says something like "THIS IS MAFIA POISON BY META, KILL HER NOW!!!"

THIS IS POISON'S MAFIA META. go.

Poison, could this be the game where you finally wanted to replicate your town play and hyper post?

yes, ted, this is the game i wanted to replicate my town play and hyper post.

poison in this game:

People have squinted at me for saying that I have "genuine" reads in the past, as if every read I share as town is supposed to be genuine.

So with that in mind, here's a read of unknown sincerity:

Vulgard is mafia.

After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

This post kinda pings me.

Why exactly?

Because you're setting up an excuse to sheep Sloonei while putting the responsibility of the exe on his shoulders and implying that if he is wrong he is mafia.

I see. I'll keep that in mind and try not to slip next time.

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

I wear a pink skirt as mafia wdym?

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Actually think I agree with this.

This post and vote is so bad that idk makes me scum read you more.

That's some clunky distancing, you guys.

Maybe

told them not to do it so badly.

Poison's ISO reminds me of Hally's from the Champs finale.

Hally was mafia.

Busted. I thought I changed a few lines while copying, just to fool the teachers. Damn!

also it kinda feels like she has tmi on some ppl eg tsp

[VOTE: poison] aubergine

Yes I do have TMI on TSP. maybe you too if I'm getting it right.

[nutella]

I mean if you have some examples of you doing the same thing as town feel free to show me

[nutella]

i have tmi on tsp bc hes my mason

[Poison]

oh, that's spicy

Not spicy enough though I was expecting something more spicy. This can be the Europe spice.

[Poison]

i have tmi on tsp bc hes my mason

And if you read my post you'll know why I said I have TMI on both of you.

[nutella]

I made chilaquiles with spicy sweet chili doritos and it's kinda nasty im sorry enrique for disrespecting your culture like this

[Alison]

2) The interactions between Poison and TSP these past few pages are super teammate indicative.

hard disagree. pocket indicative. and tsp was already lock town

Can we talk about this read? Like I think there's a huge gap between the way we see TSP here and I want to understand why you think he is lock town.

[Poison]

I mean if you have some examples of you doing the same thing as town feel free to show me

Hm. Nah, I'm making scrambled eggs with my meta. Got lynched in my last three scum games, and locked town in 5he anti town games. But I am hoping to mess around with people's reads on me after a couple more games. Just trying things out. Don't look for meta.

[Poison]

Alison, you were more of a let's-form-the-town-core person right? Tell me about your sudden shift.

I'm not. If I get a bunch of townreads early on I try to form a towncore. If I get a bunch of scumreads early on I try to murder them. If I don't understand what's happening or have nullreads on everyone I try to find one read I'm confident in and stick with it (sheeping them if it's a townread or hard pushing them if it's a scumread). I believe in tailoring my strategy to the game at hand.

That makes sense but your progression style changed too, how about that?

[Poison]

2) The interactions between Poison and TSP these past few pages are super teammate indicative.

hard disagree. pocket indicative. and tsp was already lock town

Can we talk about this read? Like I think there's a huge gap between the way we see TSP here and I want to understand why you think he is lock town.

Cause TSP is like sparkly town this game.

[Poison]

i have tmi on tsp bc hes my mason

Also I believe this.

[Poison]

Spoiler: show

hypothesis: poison scumclaims as scum


poison in her last scum game:

so i also think poison chan is wolfing but have her as not w/w with vulgard

okay so tell me who are my woof woof partners?

If Poison's mafia, I don't think I'm getting there today unless somebody yells at me and says something like "THIS IS MAFIA POISON BY META, KILL HER NOW!!!"

THIS IS POISON'S MAFIA META. go.

Poison, could this be the game where you finally wanted to replicate your town play and hyper post?

yes, ted, this is the game i wanted to replicate my town play and hyper post.

poison in this game:

After encounterimg your God reads in g9, I want to believe in it right away, if you are not a mafia yourself that is.

This post kinda pings me.

Why exactly?

Because you're setting up an excuse to sheep Sloonei while putting the responsibility of the exe on his shoulders and implying that if he is wrong he is mafia.

I see. I'll keep that in mind and try not to slip next time.

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

I wear a pink skirt as mafia wdym?

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Poison is blatant naked mafia.

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Actually think I agree with this.

This post and vote is so bad that idk makes me scum read you more.

That's some clunky distancing, you guys.

Maybe

told them not to do it so badly.

Poison's ISO reminds me of Hally's from the Champs finale.

Hally was mafia.

Busted. I thought I changed a few lines while copying, just to fool the teachers. Damn!

also it kinda feels like she has tmi on some ppl eg tsp

[VOTE: poison] aubergine

Yes I do have TMI on TSP. maybe you too if I'm getting it right.