Shadow Corridors Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Thundercat]

it's kind of incredible seeing nutella town lead so successfully, juxtaposed with the reputation she had 4 years ago for being "wishy washy"

I don't think that was ever actually true though, I think it was just a meme.

This comment had me reading back at some of nutella's games from years ago.

One thing I can say is, I'm sure glad we did away with survival is a requirement for the win con.

[Thundercat]

all I've done in the last year or two is gain $20,000 of debt

I actually decreased my debt this year! That's one positive takeaway from 2020.

[Thundercat]

Where's Mac, I miss his unrelenting snark.

[Kylemii]

I mean technically speaking my debt is decreasing because I accrued it all at once in November of last year and then began paying it back monthly

[Kylemii]

mac's dead man

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Honestly the second most compelling reason to think I’m town is because Mac was incredibly obviously the jailor and the mafia fucked up obliterating him anyway

I may be relatively checked out of this game but I’m not THAT checked out

[Alison]

oh fuck did she do it again

No, I only softed in Mysterious Universe because I had no idea that town knew there was a lost wolf. Softing in this context is much more risky because people do know that a lost wolf exists. Also like nanook says, Martin brought it up not me.

[Alison]

Also my strategy this game has literally been "set up the GD thing, assemble a towncore, then slank and sheep nutella". That's just not a winning strategy if I am scum. If I am scum here I need to power wolf and redirect the exe to some townies to swing the game back into my favor. It's what I did after a poor scum opening in Mysterious Universe. Instead I farm out my vote to nutella which is just townsiding like crazy if I am scum.

[sig]

ok, so next we shoot sig or....

My siggy mislynch senses are tingling

[sig]

Where's Mac, I miss his unrelenting snark.

mac's dead man

[sig]

Someone who's constantly being read as a civ is probably mafia.

[sig]

The others are people who aren't sig

[sig]

If the traitor is someone who didn't know they were mafia I'd think a likely player would be tuutuu, she's kind off dropped off and having just finished a game as mafia I could see the burn out

[sig]

Also what is the logic of just shooting people right now? Whoever came up with thst has to be mafia like no way around it

Literally what just happened could so easily happen and we're down 2 civs that isn't sustainable especially without knowledge of what other KP mafia/3rd party has

[Alison]

Also what is the logic of just shooting people right now? Whoever came up with thst has to be mafia like no way around it

Mac came up with it himself iirc, he outed that he had a gun and said he was going to shoot someone

[Alison]

If the traitor is someone who didn't know they were mafia I'd think a likely player would be tuutuu, she's kind off dropped off and having just finished a game as mafia I could see the burn out

"someone who didn't know they were mafia" -> what?

Like first of all that seems bastard because it's the host lying to you, and second of all even if it were true why would any behavior be AI given that the player genuinely believes they're town?

[Thunal33]

The town pile:
Nutella
Alison
Martin
Tutuu
Nova
KZA
Mac

The one tier below town pile that I don't want dead rn:
112
Made
NIK

Shoot here:
Myo
Chuck
Kyle
Sig
Nanook

I am also a player in this game.

You can go in the shoot pile.

[sig]

If the traitor is someone who didn't know they were mafia I'd think a likely player would be tuutuu, she's kind off dropped off and having just finished a game as mafia I could see the burn out

"someone who didn't know they were mafia" -> what?

Like first of all that seems bastard because it's the host lying to you, and second of all even if it were true why would any behavior be AI given that the player genuinely believes they're town?

I'm half skimming isn't that what someone said the traitor was? Like classic traitor doesn't know they're mafia, but is if targeted by mafia type deal. Also that isn't within the realm of basted I'd think it's a classic role.

[Thunal33]

It's 13 v 3 right now with one of the 3 being a lost wolf. And 2 indies.

I believe!

Wow I thought we were still doing really well since we killed 4 anti-town roles in the first 3 days. This is kind of a wake up call tbh.

[Thunal33]

Maybe the mafia aren't just in the low posters and it's not that easy. Myo might still be one but I should read more into motivation rather than post volume. Also there's no way the traitor doesn't know they're mafia if they don't even count towards parity.

[Thunal33]

I'm voting Nik.

why

Because I think he's sus. I cannot follow the meta reads that people are throwing around and I think he's the better choice.

I'm voting Nik.

I don't really like this push on NIK since Myo voted NIK both d2 and d3 with this kind of reasoning when mafia was in danger.

[VOTE: Sexy Flanders] aubergine

Agreed that he's sus. His vote on MrRadish feels overexplained.

I owe my friends explanations when I vote for them.

But I feel like you're reaching really hard for a reason to shade me. "Because he explained his vote" is a desperate reach.
Gives Kylemi town points, because your rationale is so flimsy it looks designed to cozy up to Kyle who's sussing me for an equally poor reason.

You seem to call out votes throughout the rest of the game without much explanation. I think a difference in where you're choosing do to that and where you're not is interesting.

Myo only suspects Flanders in response to Kyle's vote on Flanders, I could easily see that as scum thinking Flanders might become viable.

[Thunal33]

Ok, every one of NIK's reads is waffly, they're scum.

I exaggerate a little, but NIK's reads all look something like:

Player A: Reason they're town but reason they're scum.
Player B: Reason they're scum but reason they're town.

Addendum, no confidence.

Thundercat, what happened between these two posts? Why did you drop your confidence level in NIK being scum, or am i misinterpreting your second post?

[Thunal33]

[VOTE: Myo] aubergine

[tutuu]

Why did we shoot chuck didnt he repeatedly claim the armorsmith thing before flanders and falcon (janitored town) died

[sig]

Why did we shoot chuck didnt he repeatedly claim the armorsmith thing before flanders and falcon (janitored town) died

This

[tutuu]

We arent abusing enough the fact that every town role is unique and written in the op

I didnt realize night killed ppl are janitored

This auto janitor is whats keeping a mass claim in check

The obliterator appears to be once on odd night

We could have broken the setup with a d1 massclaim

[tutuu]

Its too late

Should we force the poe to claim?

If we have a cc from a town we trade 1 for 1 its worth

If we dont, obliterator might kill the scummy town for us. Or smth

[tutuu]

Its not* too late

[tutuu]

It might be too late

13v5 if we go with cc its up to 2 kp per night for mafia obliterator might be every night

[Thunal33]

I think a PoE mass claim is pretty risky and might expose a lot of people's roles (even those not in the PoE).

[Thunal33]

We arent abusing enough the fact that every town role is unique and written in the op

I didnt realize night killed ppl are janitored

This auto janitor is whats keeping a mass claim in check

The obliterator appears to be once on odd night

We could have broken the setup with a d1 massclaim

I don't think a setup that can be broken with a D1 massclaim would run and pass game review.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

We’re not ahead enough for risking a mass obliteration to be a good idea lol

But yes mass claim can be used to break the game after we kill the oblit most likely

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

We arent abusing enough the fact that every town role is unique and written in the op

I didnt realize night killed ppl are janitored

This auto janitor is whats keeping a mass claim in check

The obliterator appears to be once on odd night

We could have broken the setup with a d1 massclaim

I don't think a setup that can be broken with a D1 massclaim would run and pass game review.

We don’t really do game review here tbh

[tutuu]

Nobody reviews syndicate games afaik hosts have full autonomy

I dont know enough about the secret roles but if the obliterator is hard capped at 1 kp per night (or even less) the setup was definitely breakable with d1 massclaim imo

[Thundercat]

Ok, every one of NIK's reads is waffly, they're scum.

I exaggerate a little, but NIK's reads all look something like:

Player A: Reason they're town but reason they're scum.
Player B: Reason they're scum but reason they're town.

Addendum, no confidence.

Thundercat, what happened between these two posts? Why did you drop your confidence level in NIK being scum, or am i misinterpreting your second post?

NIK is still in the would shoot category.

However he's also been the counterwagon to each of the last 3 chops, which includes two scum and a 3p. Also, sabie voted for him Days 1-3. Poly and Jack voted for him Day 1. These other occurences make him look more town.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also btw obliterator role phrasing suggests multiple people can be obliterated a night. As does precedent for similar roles. So I would not assume a limit of one per night.

[Thunal33]

Ok, every one of NIK's reads is waffly, they're scum.

I exaggerate a little, but NIK's reads all look something like:

Player A: Reason they're town but reason they're scum.
Player B: Reason they're scum but reason they're town.

Addendum, no confidence.

Thundercat, what happened between these two posts? Why did you drop your confidence level in NIK being scum, or am i misinterpreting your second post?

NIK is still in the would shoot category.

However he's also been the counterwagon to each of the last 3 chops, which includes two scum and a 3p. Also, sabie voted for him Days 1-3. Poly and Jack voted for him Day 1. These other occurences make him look more town.

I think because of the wagons NIK is not mafia.

[Thundercat]

Oh I understand your question now, you misunderstood my posts.

My point was that NIK's reads had no confidence, not that I'd lost confidence in the read.

[Thunal33]

Oh I understand your question now, you misunderstood my posts.

My point was that NIK's reads had no confidence, not that I'd lost confidence in the read.

Okay that makes more sense.

[Grand Scheme]

Why is tutuu town?

[112]

afraid to say i'm drinking coffee

[112]

what if mac was right about thundercat

[112]

@KZA what are we overlooking?

[112]

i think most people have a poe too small to contain all the wolves and 3rd parties tbh

would like to see some outside-the-box thinking

[112]

myo should probably claim

[Joe Who?]

[112]

?

[112]

maybe joe just wants to be able to say he won a scum game posting nothing but emojis

[Alison]

We're not doing a massclaim until we know exactly how the Obliterator works. We also have no idea what the unknown 3P does - in Radiohead there was a scum role that punished mass claiming and a 3P role that also tried to collect town roles.

[Alison]

maybe joe just wants to be able to say he won a scum game posting nothing but emojis

You think Joe thinks he's winning this game by posting emojis if he's scum?