Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Master Radishes]

On a different note I need to again reiterate that 112 is probably scum.

She TRed me in the midst of a thread-wide SR of me a few pages back and for no good reason except 'meta'. As much as it's correct and I appreciate a friend, I would only accept that sort of hipfire judgement from her if she was more engaged in the game / was having more of an impact leading the flow of discussion. When 112 is in the zone she has great intuition about people and won't be afraid to drop a non-consensus take or three; when she's scum she tries to mimic that style but tends to feel more reserved in her posting.

Again dunno if I'm really expressing what I mean to express. It's morning and my brain isn't working at full capacity and I'm not isoing anyone I'm talking about to double check my feelings because this game is not my priority right now.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Never fear nanook is here

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Kind of, I have to figure out some food too

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’ll sheep that

[Made]

Never fear nanook is here

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

[Master Radishes]

I’ll sheep that

112/Nook w/w confirmed.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I don’t know how anyone reads tutu

I’m not sure if even alison can read tutu atp

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’ll sheep that

112/Nook w/w confirmed.

Fuck

[Master Radishes]

But also yes [VOTE: 112] aubergine

[Master Radishes]

I’ll sheep that

112/Nook w/w confirmed.

Fuck

Sorry, I've wolfed with you - I know how you operate.

2 down.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’ll sheep that

112/Nook w/w confirmed.

Fuck

Sorry, I've wolfed with you - I know how you operate.

2 down.

I can’t even lie that would be a classic scumNanook move

[112]

On a different note I need to again reiterate that 112 is probably scum.

She TRed me in the midst of a thread-wide SR of me a few pages back and for no good reason except 'meta'. As much as it's correct and I appreciate a friend, I would only accept that sort of hipfire judgement from her if she was more engaged in the game / was having more of an impact leading the flow of discussion. When 112 is in the zone she has great intuition about people and won't be afraid to drop a non-consensus take or three; when she's scum she tries to mimic that style but tends to feel more reserved in her posting.

Again dunno if I'm really expressing what I mean to express. It's morning and my brain isn't working at full capacity and I'm not isoing anyone I'm talking about to double check my feelings because this game is not my priority right now.

actually terrible read

[Master Radishes]

On a different note I need to again reiterate that 112 is probably scum.

She TRed me in the midst of a thread-wide SR of me a few pages back and for no good reason except 'meta'. As much as it's correct and I appreciate a friend, I would only accept that sort of hipfire judgement from her if she was more engaged in the game / was having more of an impact leading the flow of discussion. When 112 is in the zone she has great intuition about people and won't be afraid to drop a non-consensus take or three; when she's scum she tries to mimic that style but tends to feel more reserved in her posting.

Again dunno if I'm really expressing what I mean to express. It's morning and my brain isn't working at full capacity and I'm not isoing anyone I'm talking about to double check my feelings because this game is not my priority right now.

actually terrible read

Yeah maybe.

[Master Radishes]

Speaking of CDCers, what's falcon done lately?

I haven't forgiven him for his terrible read on me in D0 and I feel like he's kept a low profile.

[112]

lmfao i forgot falc was playing

[Master Radishes]

Apparently my approach this game is to omgus the frick out of both my detractors and my supporters, get myself chopped D1 as usual, and wait for flips to hopeully give myself a mental 'I told them so'.

[Made]

another player i keep forgetting is in this game: Martin

[nutella]

another player i keep forgetting is in this game: Martin

hmmyes

[nutella]

Apparently my approach this game is to omgus the frick out of both my detractors and my supporters, get myself chopped D1 as usual, and wait for flips to hopeully give myself a mental 'I told them so'.

if we chop you and you flip town should we follow your legacy reads

i find it hard to believe your 112/nook take is real but if it is i could consider it. if you do flip town i prob would look closer at falcon

[nutella]

tbh this feels like philosophers radish when i caught him for manufactured content

i also applied this read incorrectly in pyre, but i believe in my intuition/that i can get it right lol

[Master Radishes]

tbh this feels like philosophers radish when i caught him for manufactured content

i also applied this read incorrectly in pyre, but i believe in my intuition/that i can get it right lol

So now we've established you actually can't read me 100% accurately.

Is it Pyre or Philosophers this time?

[Master Radishes]

This sort of 'meta' read on me is just incredibly frustrating tbh. I get that I bring it upon myself by playing how I do, but believe it or not I *do* try to play more seriously early on sometimes. I felt there have been several pushes on me so far and I'm certain from experience that at least one of them is disingenuous.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Inb4 “it’s been wrong once and right once so it’s a coinflip”

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

50% chance to hit mafia ain’t bad

[MacDougall]

I am getting more and more convinced Nutella is mafia. She's mind melding with bad takes.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

[Justplayingitcool]

actually, there's probably a case for Jpic right?

What's your case

[cat]

Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?

@Sloonei

I'm just asking what kind of mafia player you are. I believe this is our first time playing together (I hosted you in Simpsons, but did not follow that game super closely), so I'm just looking to understand what you're trying to do in this game right now, what sort of things you're looking for, etc.

OK that makes more sense, i thought you were telling me to do something.
I'm trying to catch up but i keep getting distracted by everything. I gave up on reading tutuu because i'm too lazy. When i read i skip memes and i look for people's thought process and trying to figure out how are they approaching the game. Hoping to vote out atleast 1 mafia this game.

@cat who were you in Simpsons?

I was Lisa Simpson. I also played in 8 ball mafia and The Christmas game.

[Justplayingitcool]

@dyachei

Alison - claimed 3p, also unkillable and immune to yeeting after day 1 since she can redirect all night actions and all votes towards the person she made a contract with. so putting her aside

tutuu
Michelle - her reactions to getting pushed and a bunch of other stuff feel pretty towny
nutella - i dont care about her post count and i heavily dislike the fact that she's using the "im so bad as wolf i can barely post or do anything, my scum game is milesssss behind my towngame" thing as a defense, i think that if your scum game is lagging behind your towngame then you should be putting alot of effort to equalize the difference, instead of weaponizing the difference and using it to your advantage, thats lowkey unsportsmanlike imo, even if shes only stating the truth. its kind of like being proud that you never bus as scum and wanting to get towncleared upon being on a wolf wagon (like TSM mikey does) which unfairly skews the scale to favor your town winrate and lowers your scum winrate, or like when you only do heavy AtE as town and dont do it as wolf and u get free townreads and u dont realize that its not rly fair, sort of like a trust tell. even tho ur job as town is to be truthful in my opinion some truths are best not spoken for the sake of a sportsmanlike competitive game @nutella . im sorry i just - this is my opinion, i dont want to yell at you or scold you and i love you very much nutella and i think you know it, i just cant not share my opinion on how our mafia gameplay on the syndicate can be improved, thats all!

ANYWAY, for my actual read on her that i think is valid and sportsmanlike (as in, its fakable if she was wolf) - i like her sassy and erratic responses to multiple posts, they are too much for me to pinpoint all but there are there in both of our ISOs. i think that shes heavily invested in the game and she had some textbook towny posts - one of them was recent, somebody was townreading her and she pointed out how scummy that person is for townreading her, which is a towntell when you're in nutella's situation (receiving scumreads from multiple places). the biggest part is her pushes really, they just make sense
MacDougall - i think from the two scum games ive seen from him last year he was really trolly and erratic, i think as town he gets more serious and his reads get more deep. i think if he was mafia or 3p here he played in a way that would get him night killed due to being perceived as a threat from one of the scum teams, which is not good for him if he's scum. optimal scum play in this game is to be towny but not that towny imo. so i think he's town
Sloonei - exact same read as mac, except without the trolly and erratic part. i can add that ive seen him be scum twice, i have caught him both times (its not only nutella who rekt sloonei ) and ive seen him be town once in my game and the contrast is pretty stark imo. he's just clearly town here imo
Syn - echoing the already stated reads on him, nobody expects much from him so if he is mafia here he can post three times less and nobody would push him. the fact that he's putting way more effort than the average effort put out by players in this threat makes him town in my eyes

112 - i find all of her posts extremely logical and i can follow them. any reasons to doubt her is that she isnt playing in a way that would make her nightkilled by scum early on imo, so she isnt showing the "multiball towntell" in my eyes, and additionallyshe has fooled me before as mafia
Timsup2nothin - i dont wanna repeat it, i laid it out already in my iso. its about the way he interacted with sloonei about the perceived tmi slip about multiball
Thunal33 - pretty similar to 112, i nod my head as i read her posts, they make sense and are good, but she is not getting nightkilled and could be a solving mafia
DrWilgy - unfortunately little explanation for this. this is simply my gut. i think he's being genuine. i liked the "maybe yall can listen to me for once" post
Marmot - again cant explain much. gut. ive played a bunch of games with marmot. perhaps im starting to get familiar. he feels more similar to bike mafia compared to the times i saw him scum. maybe, i think.

MartinGG99 - i liked his posts where he was saying "u guys can kill me at any time". but otherwise low post count, could be scum
falcon45ca - i liked some of his assertive tone, but otherwise low post count, hard to read, could be scum, the assertive tone thingy could be his personality
cat - i liked his sass, i disliked one logical post of his (because it was logical), low post count
JackofHearts2005 - i have little to no experience with jack; low post count
dyachei - recently joined, dont have much to read them off of. previous owner was 0 poster
Dyslexicon - low post count, i have seen him be like this as town a lot
TurnipHead - 0 poster
Long Con - surprised he has 80, i dont remember most of his posts, shows how spammy this game is. just checked post coutns nutella has 330 posts what the actual fuck. but yeah. long con notoriously hard to read / impossible
TonyStarkPrime - low post count, gut says he's scum but last game i wrongly tunneled him

Master Radishes - sheeping nutella, i liked her idea that if MR is logical and cooperative that could mean he's mafia
Made - i echo someone's read that made jumping around like a happy little fairy between posts could mean he's mafia. i dont remember his pushes, i just remember him being chatty and friendly
Kylemii - my gut pinged me super hard, cant explain
JustPlayingitcool - is playing the same way he played in radiohead. claims that this is his town meta, thats possible, but then how does one read him?
Hyena - i think he started kinda flailing, dont wanna repeat the things ive already stated about why i sr him, there are there in my iso
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - doesnt seem that relaxed or easygoing, according to mac that's nook's towntell and nook isn't expressing it here fmpov, also nook is super engaged as town at least often times, and is often in the top posters and i think as town is more engaged and has more reads than this

I really do not feel like I am playing like I was in Radiohead at all. In that game, I was pulling jokes out and not making any reads. I've made some jokes but I've definitely put reads out there and made pushes

[tutuu]

I do not follow

Tutuu has teammate? Tutuu rips people’s heads off
Tutuu doesn’t have teammate? Tutuu plays defensively

Tutuu has to pretend to baddie hunt? Tutuu plays stiff
Tutuu can baddie hunt? Tutuu flows like freestyle rapper

Conclusión if rippy head flow Tutuu, then mafia Tutuu

Did you not play Bike mafia? I think you did. I was town and I believe I was ripping heads off

Otherwise good interpretation of my meta by you despite your inaccurate sources

[Justplayingitcool]

Do we believe Hyena’s claim?

No really. It's hard to prove that Hyena actually has this ability because we can't confirm with the dead.

[tutuu]

[VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

[Justplayingitcool]

sigh

[tutuu]

I do not follow

Tutuu has teammate? Tutuu rips people’s heads off
Tutuu doesn’t have teammate? Tutuu plays defensively

Tutuu has to pretend to baddie hunt? Tutuu plays stiff
Tutuu can baddie hunt? Tutuu flows like freestyle rapper

Conclusión if rippy head flow Tutuu, then mafia Tutuu

Did you not play Bike mafia? I think you did. I was town and I believe I was ripping heads off

Otherwise good interpretation of my meta by you despite your inaccurate sources

Also I was the most powerful PR in SC so naturally I'd wanna play more "defensively" there

[Justplayingitcool]

im town

[Justplayingitcool]

Literally, I am genuinely fucking confused with the Radiohead comparison. This is how I play as town

[MacDougall]

@dyachei

Alison - claimed 3p, also unkillable and immune to yeeting after day 1 since she can redirect all night actions and all votes towards the person she made a contract with. so putting her aside

tutuu
Michelle - her reactions to getting pushed and a bunch of other stuff feel pretty towny
nutella - i dont care about her post count and i heavily dislike the fact that she's using the "im so bad as wolf i can barely post or do anything, my scum game is milesssss behind my towngame" thing as a defense, i think that if your scum game is lagging behind your towngame then you should be putting alot of effort to equalize the difference, instead of weaponizing the difference and using it to your advantage, thats lowkey unsportsmanlike imo, even if shes only stating the truth. its kind of like being proud that you never bus as scum and wanting to get towncleared upon being on a wolf wagon (like TSM mikey does) which unfairly skews the scale to favor your town winrate and lowers your scum winrate, or like when you only do heavy AtE as town and dont do it as wolf and u get free townreads and u dont realize that its not rly fair, sort of like a trust tell. even tho ur job as town is to be truthful in my opinion some truths are best not spoken for the sake of a sportsmanlike competitive game @nutella . im sorry i just - this is my opinion, i dont want to yell at you or scold you and i love you very much nutella and i think you know it, i just cant not share my opinion on how our mafia gameplay on the syndicate can be improved, thats all!

ANYWAY, for my actual read on her that i think is valid and sportsmanlike (as in, its fakable if she was wolf) - i like her sassy and erratic responses to multiple posts, they are too much for me to pinpoint all but there are there in both of our ISOs. i think that shes heavily invested in the game and she had some textbook towny posts - one of them was recent, somebody was townreading her and she pointed out how scummy that person is for townreading her, which is a towntell when you're in nutella's situation (receiving scumreads from multiple places). the biggest part is her pushes really, they just make sense
MacDougall - i think from the two scum games ive seen from him last year he was really trolly and erratic, i think as town he gets more serious and his reads get more deep. i think if he was mafia or 3p here he played in a way that would get him night killed due to being perceived as a threat from one of the scum teams, which is not good for him if he's scum. optimal scum play in this game is to be towny but not that towny imo. so i think he's town
Sloonei - exact same read as mac, except without the trolly and erratic part. i can add that ive seen him be scum twice, i have caught him both times (its not only nutella who rekt sloonei ) and ive seen him be town once in my game and the contrast is pretty stark imo. he's just clearly town here imo
Syn - echoing the already stated reads on him, nobody expects much from him so if he is mafia here he can post three times less and nobody would push him. the fact that he's putting way more effort than the average effort put out by players in this threat makes him town in my eyes

112 - i find all of her posts extremely logical and i can follow them. any reasons to doubt her is that she isnt playing in a way that would make her nightkilled by scum early on imo, so she isnt showing the "multiball towntell" in my eyes, and additionallyshe has fooled me before as mafia
Timsup2nothin - i dont wanna repeat it, i laid it out already in my iso. its about the way he interacted with sloonei about the perceived tmi slip about multiball
Thunal33 - pretty similar to 112, i nod my head as i read her posts, they make sense and are good, but she is not getting nightkilled and could be a solving mafia
DrWilgy - unfortunately little explanation for this. this is simply my gut. i think he's being genuine. i liked the "maybe yall can listen to me for once" post
Marmot - again cant explain much. gut. ive played a bunch of games with marmot. perhaps im starting to get familiar. he feels more similar to bike mafia compared to the times i saw him scum. maybe, i think.

MartinGG99 - i liked his posts where he was saying "u guys can kill me at any time". but otherwise low post count, could be scum
falcon45ca - i liked some of his assertive tone, but otherwise low post count, hard to read, could be scum, the assertive tone thingy could be his personality
cat - i liked his sass, i disliked one logical post of his (because it was logical), low post count
JackofHearts2005 - i have little to no experience with jack; low post count
dyachei - recently joined, dont have much to read them off of. previous owner was 0 poster
Dyslexicon - low post count, i have seen him be like this as town a lot
TurnipHead - 0 poster
Long Con - surprised he has 80, i dont remember most of his posts, shows how spammy this game is. just checked post coutns nutella has 330 posts what the actual fuck. but yeah. long con notoriously hard to read / impossible
TonyStarkPrime - low post count, gut says he's scum but last game i wrongly tunneled him

Master Radishes - sheeping nutella, i liked her idea that if MR is logical and cooperative that could mean he's mafia
Made - i echo someone's read that made jumping around like a happy little fairy between posts could mean he's mafia. i dont remember his pushes, i just remember him being chatty and friendly
Kylemii - my gut pinged me super hard, cant explain
JustPlayingitcool - is playing the same way he played in radiohead. claims that this is his town meta, thats possible, but then how does one read him?
Hyena - i think he started kinda flailing, dont wanna repeat the things ive already stated about why i sr him, there are there in my iso
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - doesnt seem that relaxed or easygoing, according to mac that's nook's towntell and nook isn't expressing it here fmpov, also nook is super engaged as town at least often times, and is often in the top posters and i think as town is more engaged and has more reads than this

I really do not feel like I am playing like I was in Radiohead at all. In that game, I was pulling jokes out and not making any reads. I've made some jokes but I've definitely put reads out there and made pushes

i agree, you are nothing like you were there, what that means for your alignment i dunno but her read is demonstrably false

[tutuu]

Literally, I am genuinely fucking confused with the Radiohead comparison. This is how I play as town

How would you describe the difference between your gameplay here and Radiohead?

[tutuu]

96 hour long day 1 too long need flips

[Justplayingitcool]

Literally, I am genuinely fucking confused with the Radiohead comparison. This is how I play as town

How would you describe the difference between your gameplay here and Radiohead?

Pretty easily.

I think it's no secret that I was open wolfing and not really playing. When the watch result was revealed I was all-in on the open wolfing.

In this game, I feel like I am playing more seriously, making pushes on players I find sus and making more interactions with people. Not that this proves that I am town, but I do feel the comparison is unfounded and ridiculous, if not insulting.

[tutuu]

Okay, I skimmed over your ISO here and I will cede that you have more game relevant content. I'm going to keep my vote on you for the time being.

[Justplayingitcool]

Okay, I skimmed over your ISO here and I will cede that you have more game relevant content. I'm going to keep my vote on you for the time being.

Ok, so what's your reason for scum reading me now then? Judging from your reads list, your scum read on me sounded like it was based on that comparison, and now that you have admitted that comparison is unfounded, what's your reason for still voting me?

[tutuu]

I changed my mind.

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

[tutuu]

Do we believe Hyena’s claim?

No really. It's hard to prove that Hyena actually has this ability because we can't confirm with the dead.

We can confirm with the living

[Justplayingitcool]

Do we believe Hyena’s claim?

No really. It's hard to prove that Hyena actually has this ability because we can't confirm with the dead.

We can confirm with the living

Ah, you're right. I misread the claim and thought it was Hynena who speaks to the dead.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[Michelle]

I am getting more and more convinced Nutella is mafia. She's mind melding with bad takes.

I witnessed this in bread game, i don't think this is the problem

[tutuu]

@falcon45ca I don't think yeeting Alison will happen, who else do you scumread?

[MacDougall]

I am getting more and more convinced Nutella is mafia. She's mind melding with bad takes.

I witnessed this in bread game, i don't think this is the problem

it's quite a personal read for me, when Nutella is town her and I just connect.
and she also has completely avoided pointing that out or sussing me.

I am like 90% sure she's just mafia.

[tutuu]

@Kylemii who is mafia?

[Master Radishes]

Yeah I'd lean JPIC town here tbh. Or I guess I don't know for sure but he's definitely had content in this game that's easy to miss but exists.