Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Dyslexicon]

I mean, I guess they actually have played with me, but not really.

i can't believe you forgot about me, after all this time. :\

I haven't. I always liked your style, and you're funny. But I don't really remember much about your game play.

Also, I wasn't saying what I said in a "Oh no, so bad for town" way. I was just saying that in general, when there's a lot of powers, different factions, random stuff going on, individual players have waaaaaaay less control over the actual outcome. That's just a face. So to me, it's more about doing what I can and have fun in the early stages. And then I'll see if I'm alive later.

Also there should really be multi-yeets in such big games, especially if there's many different factions. I don't understand why this is never a thing. You literally don't have the time to yeet all the scum lol. Now this is a bit "sucks to be town" flavor. But it's true.

But it doesn't suck to be town though. Town is the best.

[nutella]

Falcon kinda does feel like he'd just be a hit. But on the other hand if my scumreads agree and everyone unites on him he could be lhf town. Meh. Could be an ok d1 yeet but not a super inspiring one

[Dyslexicon]

dizzy blatant town lock town innocent child

I'm confirmed town now @112

What do you say to that?

[dyachei]

Falcon kinda does feel like he'd just be a hit. But on the other hand if my scumreads agree and everyone unites on him he could be lhf town. Meh. Could be an ok d1 yeet but not a super inspiring one

why does falcon feel like a hit to you

[Made]

Y’all do know there’s gonna be a day 2 right?

Y’all’s stamina is crazy

[Syn]

Y’all do know there’s gonna be a day 2 right?

Y’all’s stamina is crazy

it's considered expert-level play to try and make it so you don't survive to D2

[tutuu]

dont ask for explanations pls too busy i swear i got like a lot important stuff to do i swear i got no time, too busy

tutuu
MacDougall
Michelle
nutella
Sloonei
Syn
JustPlayingitcool
Dyslexicon
Timsup2nothin
dyachei

Marmot
DrWilgy
Thunal33
cat
112

Alison
TurnipHead

JackofHearts2005
Made
MartinGG99
TonyStarkPrime
Long Con
Master Radishes
Hyena
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
falcon45ca
Kylemii

[Sloonei]

@nutella

What do you think of Sloonei ignoring my obvious desire to fight, while prompting "hey Radishes, get your 112 case back active in the thread here"?

huh

You have to admit that's a move worthy of w!champion.

I don't know what move you think I am making.

If I were a wolf, and thought "hmmm...getting a 112 mischop here would be really cool" I would have done exactly what you just did. "Some one is getting active about defending 112...I don't want to challenge them and get myself linked in here while getting them to forcefully state their case...so I'll just call on someone from the class who can bring some vigor back to the case on 112...Master Radishes, if you please." I might not expect that kind of wolf move from most people, but I doubt that it is beyond you.

That is not what's happening. I'm just trying to do as much as I can to solidify some reads before I have to leave for work today.

Weekends are my busy period, so I'm not going to be around as much for the remainder of the day. I have a few reads that I'm comfortable with, but I'm lacking clear suspects and there is a huge murky pool of players in the middle of this game for me. I'd like to start solidifying some things as we move into the last 24 hours. That's why I've dug through 112, dizzy, falcon, and Master Radishes so far today. I'm scanning Marmot's posts right now, then I'll probably need to leave. I still have a lot of people who are big old shrugs, and that's an uncomfortable place to be for me.

[nutella]

Falcon kinda does feel like he'd just be a hit. But on the other hand if my scumreads agree and everyone unites on him he could be lhf town. Meh. Could be an ok d1 yeet but not a super inspiring one

why does falcon feel like a hit to you

Bc he dropped off in activity in a way that 112 (who has meta on him) says is unlike him and potentially >rand scum, and several people independently find him sketchy-- feels likely to be a low effort wolf rand kind of deal

[Sloonei]

Y’all do know there’s gonna be a day 2 right?

Y’all’s stamina is crazy

it's considered expert-level play to try and make it so you don't survive to D2

can't get burnt out if you only play in short bursts every once in a while.

[Master Radishes]

dont ask for explanations pls too busy i swear i got like a lot important stuff to do i swear i got no time, too busy

tutuu
MacDougall
Michelle
nutella
Sloonei
Syn
JustPlayingitcool
Dyslexicon
Timsup2nothin
dyachei

Marmot
DrWilgy
Thunal33
cat
112

Alison
TurnipHead

JackofHearts2005
Made
MartinGG99
TonyStarkPrime
Long Con
Master Radishes
Hyena
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
falcon45ca
Kylemii

Ngl this feels more like a list of 'who is super active / plays the way I like' vs 'who is less active / plays stylistically different to me'.

[Timsup2nothin]

@nutella

What do you think of Sloonei ignoring my obvious desire to fight, while prompting "hey Radishes, get your 112 case back active in the thread here"?

huh

You have to admit that's a move worthy of w!champion.

I don't know what move you think I am making.

If I were a wolf, and thought "hmmm...getting a 112 mischop here would be really cool" I would have done exactly what you just did. "Some one is getting active about defending 112...I don't want to challenge them and get myself linked in here while getting them to forcefully state their case...so I'll just call on someone from the class who can bring some vigor back to the case on 112...Master Radishes, if you please." I might not expect that kind of wolf move from most people, but I doubt that it is beyond you.

That is not what's happening. I'm just trying to do as much as I can to solidify some reads before I have to leave for work today.

Weekends are my busy period, so I'm not going to be around as much for the remainder of the day. I have a few reads that I'm comfortable with, but I'm lacking clear suspects and there is a huge murky pool of players in the middle of this game for me. I'd like to start solidifying some things as we move into the last 24 hours. That's why I've dug through 112, dizzy, falcon, and Master Radishes so far today. I'm scanning Marmot's posts right now, then I'll probably need to leave. I still have a lot of people who are big old shrugs, and that's an uncomfortable place to be for me.

What's you take on 112?

[tutuu]

@Sloonei
@Timsup2nothin

the reason why both of u mad at each other cuz sloonei asked a question to tim very early d0

from tim's pov, sloonei's question was too exhausting and needy
from sloonei's pov, his question was reasonable and tim was unnecessarily antagonistic

u are both town and u both mad at each other cuz of that one thing and u keep having knee jerk reactions to each other to debate and shit

i want you both to go to your rooms, think about your actions, come out and shake your hands and move on you are both TOWN and i will have NO T/T VIOLENCE IN MY TOWN

or else you will both receive a SPANKING.

Am I crystal clear on this boys?

[Master Radishes]

Fwiw I don't think falcon's drop off is AI.

[Sloonei]

I'm mad at tim?

[nutella]

@Sloonei
@Timsup2nothin

the reason why both of u mad at each other cuz sloonei asked a question to tim very early d0

from tim's pov, sloonei's question was too exhausting and needy
from sloonei's pov, his question was reasonable and tim was unnecessarily antagonistic

u are both town and u both mad at each other cuz of that one thing and u keep having knee jerk reactions to each other to debate and shit

i want you both to go to your rooms, think about your actions, come out and shake your hands and move on you are both TOWN and i will have NO T/T VIOLENCE IN MY TOWN

or else you will both receive a SPANKING.

Am I crystal clear on this boys?

lol

[Justplayingitcool]

Yeah I'd lean JPIC town here tbh. Or I guess I don't know for sure but he's definitely had content in this game that's easy to miss but exists.

Was this a pocket attempt

[Timsup2nothin]

@Sloonei
@Timsup2nothin

the reason why both of u mad at each other cuz sloonei asked a question to tim very early d0

from tim's pov, sloonei's question was too exhausting and needy
from sloonei's pov, his question was reasonable and tim was unnecessarily antagonistic

u are both town and u both mad at each other cuz of that one thing and u keep having knee jerk reactions to each other to debate and shit

i want you both to go to your rooms, think about your actions, come out and shake your hands and move on you are both TOWN and i will have NO T/T VIOLENCE IN MY TOWN

or else you will both receive a SPANKING.

Am I crystal clear on this boys?

You think that talking about spanking me is a threat?

That said...you're wrong on many things here, the first being that I am mad at Sloonei. There will be no violence here, trust me...but he needs to be questioned a bit.

[Master Radishes]

Yeah I'd lean JPIC town here tbh. Or I guess I don't know for sure but he's definitely had content in this game that's easy to miss but exists.

Was this a pocket attempt

Depends. Did it work?

[nutella]

Fwiw I don't think falcon's drop off is AI.

what is your read of him and why?

also don't like that you discredited tutuu's read list, obviously you and I are biased in opposite directions there but I think it's a very good list that I agree with her on

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm mad at tim?

This was news to me as well.

[Justplayingitcool]

Yeah I'd lean JPIC town here tbh. Or I guess I don't know for sure but he's definitely had content in this game that's easy to miss but exists.

Was this a pocket attempt

Depends. Did it work?

It would have if you were more confident on the town read!

[nutella]

like I don't think your generalization/judgment of her reads is fair or makes sense, there are many different styles represented on both ends, i don't find it hard to believe those are just her real reads (esp since they are mine as well lol)

[Master Radishes]

Yeah I'd lean JPIC town here tbh. Or I guess I don't know for sure but he's definitely had content in this game that's easy to miss but exists.

Was this a pocket attempt

Depends. Did it work?

It would have if you were more confident on the town read!

Damn. Next time.

[cat]

Y’all do know there’s gonna be a day 2 right?

Y’all’s stamina is crazy

I'm going fucking mental

[Timsup2nothin]

Fwiw I don't think falcon's drop off is AI.

what is your read of him and why?

also don't like that you discredited tutuu's read list, obviously you and I are biased in opposite directions there but I think it's a very good list that I agree with her on

I hate this post. No one is gonna "agree on" Tutuu's list. We all probably mostly agree with it. If I were to respond to it I would feel compelled to specify where I disagree, and I'm not gonna take the time...but this "oh yeah, I agree" is totally open to later saying "well, yeah I didn't agree with this specific point" and opportunistically piling on somewhere. It's like "I should post a reads list but I don't want to be confined if I have to progress later." It's bad. It's NAI, but it's still bad.

[nutella]

dont ask for explanations pls too busy i swear i got like a lot important stuff to do i swear i got no time, too busy

tutuu
MacDougall
Michelle
nutella
Sloonei
Syn
JustPlayingitcool
Dyslexicon
Timsup2nothin
dyachei

Marmot
DrWilgy
Thunal33
cat
112

Alison
TurnipHead

JackofHearts2005
Made
MartinGG99
TonyStarkPrime
Long Con
Master Radishes
Hyena
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
falcon45ca
Kylemii

Ngl this feels more like a list of 'who is super active / plays the way I like' vs 'who is less active / plays stylistically different to me'.

like actually walk me through how you can think this

bc I don't think that's a real pattern there at all

seems like an empty discredit

[Justplayingitcool]

Why does all these players who's never played with me try so hard to scum read me lol

town

[Sloonei]

I'm mad at tim?

This was news to me as well.

Question me as you see fit. But know that I will be disappearing shortly. Will reappear later in the evening though.

[nutella]

Fwiw I don't think falcon's drop off is AI.

what is your read of him and why?

also don't like that you discredited tutuu's read list, obviously you and I are biased in opposite directions there but I think it's a very good list that I agree with her on

I hate this post. No one is gonna "agree on" Tutuu's list. We all probably mostly agree with it. If I were to respond to it I would feel compelled to specify where I disagree, and I'm not gonna take the time...but this "oh yeah, I agree" is totally open to later saying "well, yeah I didn't agree with this specific point" and opportunistically piling on somewhere. It's like "I should post a reads list but I don't want to be confined if I have to progress later." It's bad. It's NAI, but it's still bad.

I agree with the list like almost entirely. But I'm not saying radish should, obviously he doesn't bc he's a scumread. Im saying his characterization of it makes zero sense as there is a diversity of play styles and activity levels on both ends of it

[falcon45ca]

Quick falcon scan:

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I disagree cuz I'm a unique individual with my own thoughts and interpretation of events

What is your unique interpretation and why do you have it?

Well I can't say that my interpretation is unique, as others may have it, I know not.


Alison is wolf. Her 3P claim a gambit that other players will look at her claim and think to themselves "no way Maf would do that", as you yourself have already said.


Michelle is wolf cuz she made up her read on Essoa, who isn't playing. Ya, I know what she said, its a mixup from other games she's involved in, but I don't buy it

I remember this. I like neither of these reads. Both of these are the types of reads that I would see an opportunistic wolf going for. But then, both of these are easy reads for opportunistic wolves to make, so maybe that's a good look for falcon. Would he be so greedy?

Alright, I have no fuckin' idea what's going on.

How come?

Everyone says all my reads are shit, and I'm not sure what's happening.



I think I'm gonna watch some Friends or sumfin', eat some vanilla ice cream

Falcon was significantly more active throughout Day 0/early-Day 1 and has dropped off a ton since making this post. This reads as dejection and confusion, and I could see a player wanting to step away and let the dust settle on the game before returning. I hope falcon is not too frustrated with things, and I certainly don't want him to feel like his reads are in any way unappreciated.
@falcon45ca pay no attention of my assessment of your michelle and alison reads. We've had a flurry of activity surrounding your Canuck Comrades. Your input here would be extremely valuable. How do you feel about each of Radish and 112 right now?

MR could def be scum. He's playing a fair amount for being a low activity kinda guy, and he's kinda cranky at being called scum. He's been playing well into his Maf meta, and doesn't like it being addressed, or at the very least thinks it's a weak read. All the more reason why he's on my scum list.


112 is more likely town than scum.

[nutella]

Why does all these players who's never played with me try so hard to scum read me lol

town

+1

[nutella]

Quick falcon scan:

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I disagree cuz I'm a unique individual with my own thoughts and interpretation of events

What is your unique interpretation and why do you have it?

Well I can't say that my interpretation is unique, as others may have it, I know not.


Alison is wolf. Her 3P claim a gambit that other players will look at her claim and think to themselves "no way Maf would do that", as you yourself have already said.


Michelle is wolf cuz she made up her read on Essoa, who isn't playing. Ya, I know what she said, its a mixup from other games she's involved in, but I don't buy it

I remember this. I like neither of these reads. Both of these are the types of reads that I would see an opportunistic wolf going for. But then, both of these are easy reads for opportunistic wolves to make, so maybe that's a good look for falcon. Would he be so greedy?

Alright, I have no fuckin' idea what's going on.

How come?

Everyone says all my reads are shit, and I'm not sure what's happening.



I think I'm gonna watch some Friends or sumfin', eat some vanilla ice cream

Falcon was significantly more active throughout Day 0/early-Day 1 and has dropped off a ton since making this post. This reads as dejection and confusion, and I could see a player wanting to step away and let the dust settle on the game before returning. I hope falcon is not too frustrated with things, and I certainly don't want him to feel like his reads are in any way unappreciated.
@falcon45ca pay no attention of my assessment of your michelle and alison reads. We've had a flurry of activity surrounding your Canuck Comrades. Your input here would be extremely valuable. How do you feel about each of Radish and 112 right now?

MR could def be scum. He's playing a fair amount for being a low activity kinda guy, and he's kinda cranky at being called scum. He's been playing well into his Maf meta, and doesn't like it being addressed, or at the very least thinks it's a weak read. All the more reason why he's on my scum list.


112 is more likely town than scum.

Nice I agree.

Would love more activity from you dude

[Timsup2nothin]

Open if I'm dead

Spoiler: show

So if you are reading my ISO at this point I assume I am dead. If so, you may be looking at my early suggestion of Nutella/Sloonei partners. I am now 100% convinced that the only way they are partners is if both are town. Good luck.

[falcon45ca]

Falcon kinda does feel like he'd just be a hit. But on the other hand if my scumreads agree and everyone unites on him he could be lhf town. Meh. Could be an ok d1 yeet but not a super inspiring one

why does falcon feel like a hit to you

Bc he dropped off in activity in a way that 112 (who has meta on him) says is unlike him and potentially >rand scum, and several people independently find him sketchy-- feels likely to be a low effort town rand kind of deal

FTFY

[tutuu]

yeah that MR post was lowkey AtE (it technicaly wasnt AtE but i cant find a bette rphrase off top off my head).

MR u dead son u DEAYDDDDD

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm mad at tim?

This was news to me as well.

Question me as you see fit. But know that I will be disappearing shortly. Will reappear later in the evening though.

We have all the time in the world.

[dyachei]

MR is kind of spicy around page 41-43 somewhere

radishes arent meant to be spicy

[tutuu]

Open if I'm dead

Spoiler: show

So if you are reading my ISO at this point I assume I am dead. If so, you may be looking at my early suggestion of Nutella/Sloonei partners. I am now 100% convinced that the only way they are partners is if both are town. Good luck.

so ur an n0 parity cop hmmmmmm

[falcon45ca]

Quick falcon scan:

Spoiler: show

I disagree cuz I'm a unique individual with my own thoughts and interpretation of events

What is your unique interpretation and why do you have it?

Well I can't say that my interpretation is unique, as others may have it, I know not.


Alison is wolf. Her 3P claim a gambit that other players will look at her claim and think to themselves "no way Maf would do that", as you yourself have already said.


Michelle is wolf cuz she made up her read on Essoa, who isn't playing. Ya, I know what she said, its a mixup from other games she's involved in, but I don't buy it

I remember this. I like neither of these reads. Both of these are the types of reads that I would see an opportunistic wolf going for. But then, both of these are easy reads for opportunistic wolves to make, so maybe that's a good look for falcon. Would he be so greedy?

Alright, I have no fuckin' idea what's going on.

How come?

Everyone says all my reads are shit, and I'm not sure what's happening.



I think I'm gonna watch some Friends or sumfin', eat some vanilla ice cream

Falcon was significantly more active throughout Day 0/early-Day 1 and has dropped off a ton since making this post. This reads as dejection and confusion, and I could see a player wanting to step away and let the dust settle on the game before returning. I hope falcon is not too frustrated with things, and I certainly don't want him to feel like his reads are in any way unappreciated.
@falcon45ca pay no attention of my assessment of your michelle and alison reads. We've had a flurry of activity surrounding your Canuck Comrades. Your input here would be extremely valuable. How do you feel about each of Radish and 112 right now?

MR could def be scum. He's playing a fair amount for being a low activity kinda guy, and he's kinda cranky at being called scum. He's been playing well into his Maf meta, and doesn't like it being addressed, or at the very least thinks it's a weak read. All the more reason why he's on my scum list.


112 is more likely town than scum.

Nice I agree.

Would love more activity from you dude

I know! So would I. Finding it hard to get motivated for this game at the moment, Imma slam some coffee and get jiggy with it soon

[Kylemii]

I mean, I guess they actually have played with me, but not really.

i can't believe you forgot about me, after all this time. :\

I haven't. I always liked your style, and you're funny. But I don't really remember much about your game play.

i was messing with you, i think we've pretty much exclusively had non overlapping hiatuses. i also don't remember much about your gameplay, which probably means you're a stronger player than me.

Also, I wasn't saying what I said in a "Oh no, so bad for town" way. I was just saying that in general, when there's a lot of powers, different factions, random stuff going on, individual players have waaaaaaay less control over the actual outcome. That's just a face. So to me, it's more about doing what I can and have fun in the early stages. And then I'll see if I'm alive later.

Also there should really be multi-yeets in such big games, especially if there's many different factions. I don't understand why this is never a thing. You literally don't have the time to yeet all the scum lol. Now this is a bit "sucks to be town" flavor. But it's true.

But it doesn't suck to be town though. Town is the best.

so it's like the difference between playing smash bros without items and smash bros with only Mr. Saturns

[Long Con]

I don't think there's a Lost Wolf. But that's just because I don't think Epi would put one in.

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Which champion will you retire today?
Poll runs till Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


112
4
13%
Voters: Master Radishes, MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Long Con
Alison
1
3%
Voters: falcon45ca
Cat
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyslexicon
1
3%
Voters: 112
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Hyena
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
JustPlayingitcool
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
1
3%
Voters: Justplayingitcool
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
1
3%
Voters: Hyena
Marmot
0
No votes
Voters: None
MartinGG99
1
3%
Voters: Kylemii
Master Radishes
5
17%
Voters: tutuu, Thunal33, DrWilgy, Dyslexicon, nutella
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
3
10%
Voters: cat, Syn, Jackofhearts2005
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
1
3%
Voters: Timsup2nothin
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
Thunal33
3
10%
Voters: dyachei, Sloonei, Marmot
Timsup2nothin
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
TurnipHead
0
No votes
Voters: None
tutuu
2
7%
Voters: Michelle, Made
No vote
2
7%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, Alison
No elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
Tom Brady (host/non)
5
17%
Voters: juliets, Epignosis, c4e5g3d5, JaggedJimmyJay, dunya
Total votes: 30

VC now
@Made

[Justplayingitcool]

Yeah I'd lean JPIC town here tbh. Or I guess I don't know for sure but he's definitely had content in this game that's easy to miss but exists.

Was this a pocket attempt

Depends. Did it work?

It would have if you were more confident on the town read!

Damn. Next time.

[Timsup2nothin]

Open if I'm dead

Spoiler: show

So if you are reading my ISO at this point I assume I am dead. If so, you may be looking at my early suggestion of Nutella/Sloonei partners. I am now 100% convinced that the only way they are partners is if both are town. Good luck.

so ur an n0 parity cop hmmmmmm

You promise me a spanking and now you are trying to get me killed?

smh

[Kylemii]

sometimes i am uncomfortable with nutella's ability to read me semi accurately and then i remember that nutella has lived with my bullshit for literally 12 years

[Kylemii]

13 years jeez louise

[Syn]

Open if I'm dead

Spoiler: show

So if you are reading my ISO at this point I assume I am dead. If so, you may be looking at my early suggestion of Nutella/Sloonei partners. I am now 100% convinced that the only way they are partners is if both are town. Good luck.

boy do I love associatives D1 before any flips and while knowing the person in question has openly stated they aren't reading shit until someone has died

[nutella]

Falcon kinda does feel like he'd just be a hit. But on the other hand if my scumreads agree and everyone unites on him he could be lhf town. Meh. Could be an ok d1 yeet but not a super inspiring one

why does falcon feel like a hit to you

Bc he dropped off in activity in a way that 112 (who has meta on him) says is unlike him and potentially >rand scum, and several people independently find him sketchy-- feels likely to be a low effort town rand kind of deal

FTFY

Yeah I am open to that possibility as well as I said in the original post dya was responding to, and we agree on radish so.

[Timsup2nothin]

Open if I'm dead

Spoiler: show

So if you are reading my ISO at this point I assume I am dead. If so, you may be looking at my early suggestion of Nutella/Sloonei partners. I am now 100% convinced that the only way they are partners is if both are town. Good luck.

boy do I love associatives D1 before any flips and while knowing the person in question has openly stated they aren't reading shit until someone has died