Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[112]

imaging thinking i'm mafia

[Thunal33]

@dyachei Have you played with Thunal before?

yes, several mashes and turbos

How do you think her tone is more stiff than normal here? Doesn't she always have kind of a stiff tone?

Genuine question, cause you may be right that it's even more stiff =p

it's more formal, there's no relaxation evident. usually when thunal posts in other games I can see her warming up to playing and she gets more comfortable as she plays. here I'm just seeing that "discomfort" stick around. she doesnt have that spark of excitement she gets when she starts solving something. she's solving her but it feels like she's just going through the motions

I acknowledge this and register it as an argument against Thunal, but it does not resonate with me. I do not have enough experience playing with Thunal (I believe we have just one game together and I was a big bad wolf, so I wasn't exactly trying to read her) for these observations to mean a whole lot to me.

Is there anything more tangible we can point to for a thunal case? @everyone, not just dya.

Just so you know, my different tone and lack of excitement this game is because of real life.

[nutella]

Like i said the most important people are the people off wagon or dancing around suspiciously and that is where town usually ignores since they are too focused on "wow, voting townie, there must be scum there".

huh

[Sloonei]

so like lots of people talking about my thunal vote but not many people telling me their thoughts on thunal

dya town

you're probably not gonna like me saying this but...I'd do this as any alignment, why do you think it's so town indicative?

I like the singular focus on making people talk about your suspect. It feels like a post I'd make as town.

[Thunal33]

Cat is looking a bit better. It feels like he's bound by what he believes in when he's defending himself. I feel like he'd be all over me if he was mafia because I'm the most likely yeet option that isn't him.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Okay what’s going on in this thread?

Jack why do you have only 44 posts?

Mostly from playing too much Warhammer. You need to join our discord so you can read about your adventures.

[Thunal33]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[Timsup2nothin]

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

It really feels like you're deliberately casting around for a Hot New Thing to make yourself Look Good.

Like I guess I do that when i'm town too, sometimes, but it's certainly a scum trait.

You're posting as though you know how Cat is going to flip.

What does it sound like I think Cat is going to flip?

Town.

In the world where I'm maf, I wouldn't make myself look good(tm) by pushing against a wolf wagon.

You're a clever wolf. You know the levels of WIFOM at play.

But I actually just think cat is town now and your read is wrong :/

Is there anything other than the lethargic "too easy" vibe of the wagon to back this "Cat is town" read?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Somebody strong arm me into voting a wolf. I ain’t gonna do it on my own unless I lucked out on Nutella.

[112]

It really feels like you're deliberately casting around for a Hot New Thing to make yourself Look Good.

Like I guess I do that when i'm town too, sometimes, but it's certainly a scum trait.

You're posting as though you know how Cat is going to flip.

What does it sound like I think Cat is going to flip?

Town.

In the world where I'm maf, I wouldn't make myself look good(tm) by pushing against a wolf wagon.

You're a clever wolf. You know the levels of WIFOM at play.

But I actually just think cat is town now and your read is wrong :/

Is there anything other than the lethargic "too easy" vibe of the wagon to back this "Cat is town" read?

i think how they're responding to the pressure is pretty clearly distinct from how a wolf would approach it

[cat]

Do you have any thoughts on any of the people who are voting for you?

Here to wait for my death. Not to solve me, atleast judging from the last few pages. You will wait for D2 and then blame it on inactivity or something. A bunch of people prodding at others to avoid backlash later probably. It took one post to look at Thunal/dyachei interaction that dyachei is completely ignoring Thunal right now to push them . Nutella is being helpful and actually doing stuff. I'm not sure why you are trying to counterwagon right now when i'm the top wagon.

Please name names.
Also is that an accusation directed against dya? Why? I do not know what you are referring to.

Pretty much everyone around is guilty. The people who openly don't give a shit are the towniest right now. Kylemii and Syn from what i can tell.
Inbetween me arriving and making my second post. I don't know the full context, but Thunal writes a defense, and Dyachei skips half of it and focuses on the emotional content. I don't know if Thunal is actually suspicious but it makes thunal look towny from an outsider's perspective.

Do you have reads on Falcon and Hyena?

I remember vaguely disliking some of Falcon's posts and most of the things Hyena has done seem pretty NAI at suface level for me. I haven't read the case yet.

[Marmot]

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

This post feels kinda manipulative. Why don't you want to entertain outside of these two?

That said, I agree that cat's posts are pretty scummy, but I disagree on Thunal.

[Sloonei]

Does anyone have any interest in voting Hyena with me?

[Marmot]

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

[Timsup2nothin]

You're posting as though you know how Cat is going to flip.

What does it sound like I think Cat is going to flip?

Town.

In the world where I'm maf, I wouldn't make myself look good(tm) by pushing against a wolf wagon.

You're a clever wolf. You know the levels of WIFOM at play.

But I actually just think cat is town now and your read is wrong :/

Is there anything other than the lethargic "too easy" vibe of the wagon to back this "Cat is town" read?

i think how they're responding to the pressure is pretty clearly distinct from how a wolf would approach it

I played a game recently where I got hard sussed and was the consensus wolf. I not only calmly and dispassionately analyzed the game much like cat is doing now, I did it for the entire phase to the tune of 480+ posts. I wish you had been there because I might have gotten off the blocks quicker.

PS: I was a wolf in that game.

[Timsup2nothin]

Does anyone have any interest in voting Hyena with me?

If we were magically transported to F3 and had nothing more to go on than we have at this moment I would somewhat reluctantly side with Hyena and chop you.

(that's a no)

[Kylemii]

Does anyone have any interest in voting Hyena with me?

i'm not doing anything else with my vote rn

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine

[dyachei]

72 hr d1s are too long and should be outlawed

[tutuu]

Tutuu is actually le town.

Nope.

I don't see a solving mindset there.

if memory serves right im the only player who wrote multiple readslists that had a read on every player in the game

[Timsup2nothin]

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

This post feels kinda manipulative. Why don't you want to entertain outside of these two?

That said, I agree that cat's posts are pretty scummy, but I disagree on Thunal.

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

These two Marmot responses to Dya's post do not seem to be expressing the same thing...

I am not a gif expert.

But...

[cat]

Solving isn't even allignment indicative to begin with. It just makes you harder to get chopped because you do stuff.

[Thunal33]

I'm not going to try to read Dya right now since I know I'll be completely biased in any attempt to read her and I'm not feeling good for out of game reasons (which might also influence my read).

[Marmot]

all these people pretending they've never wanted to flip 2 people before

I call you on your lies

There's like 20 people open-wolfing though

[Sloonei]

i think how they're responding to the pressure is pretty clearly distinct from how a wolf would approach it

how so?

[Thunal33]

I'm not going to try to read Dya right now since I know I'll be completely biased in any attempt to read her and I'm not feeling good for out of game reasons (which might also influence my read).

them, sorry

[Marmot]

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

This post feels kinda manipulative. Why don't you want to entertain outside of these two?

That said, I agree that cat's posts are pretty scummy, but I disagree on Thunal.

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

These two Marmot responses to Dya's post do not seem to be expressing the same thing...

I am not a gif expert.

But...

Oh, that gif was supposed to be a response to the Syn post right above it.

[tutuu]

all these people pretending they've never wanted to flip 2 people before

I call you on your lies

oh your role lets us do a double d1 yeet? thats groovy lets see if im right

[Jackofhearts2005]

Imagine naming your goose “cat” and wondering if that was also a good name for a dog.

[dyachei]

all these people pretending they've never wanted to flip 2 people before

I call you on your lies

oh your role lets us do a double d1 yeet? thats groovy lets see if im right

I wish!

[tutuu]

all these people pretending they've never wanted to flip 2 people before

I call you on your lies

I want to flip 4 or 5 right now tbh.

Careful, people started to suss tutuu when she said something similar

*patpatpat*

thasss okay jpic boo, but ur so sweet for looking out for me, kissess kissess!!!!

[Sloonei]

Solving isn't even allignment indicative to begin with. It just makes you harder to get chopped because you do stuff.

what is this in response to?

[Timsup2nothin]

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

This post feels kinda manipulative. Why don't you want to entertain outside of these two?

That said, I agree that cat's posts are pretty scummy, but I disagree on Thunal.

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

These two Marmot responses to Dya's post do not seem to be expressing the same thing...

I am not a gif expert.

But...

Oh, that gif was supposed to be a response to the Syn post right above it.

To...the...what?

[Marmot]

Tutuu is actually le town.

Nope.

I don't see a solving mindset there.

if memory serves right im the only player who wrote multiple readslists that had a read on every player in the game

I've admittedly not read anywhere close to every post in the game

But that's my observation of what I have seen, I'll search for those lists

[Syn]

dizzy literally openwolfing

there are like seven people openwolfing, this means nothing

all these people pretending they've never wanted to flip 2 people before

I call you on your lies

There's like 20 people open-wolfing though

[Marmot]

I've only played one game with tutuu

does she tend to try and flood the thread with pointless things as town during active gameplay

Is this for real?

yes...Tutuu really does that in her very lovable way, and Syn really whined about it in his...I think there was an absolute lack of anything AI there.

Ah, I meant specifically about the first line. Their relationship suggested to me that they'd played together more often

Also, I was there for that game, the three of us were scum-buddies together

oh we play together alright

@Timsup2nothin never mind it was below it lol

I must have Command-clicked dya's post twice on accident and not read the quote I was responding to

[Kylemii]

this day ends in 3 hours btw

[Marmot]

But that was the post I was giffing to

[Timsup2nothin]

If I give in to the "too easy" feeling on Cat I might want to kill Marmot or Syn. Any takers?

[dyachei]

it feels manipulative when I spell it all out for you?

you guys must think I'm the worst wolf lmao

[Marmot]

dizzy literally openwolfing

there are like seven people openwolfing, this means nothing

all these people pretending they've never wanted to flip 2 people before

I call you on your lies

There's like 20 people open-wolfing though

Oooh, 112 gets me!

[tutuu]

i still think thunal is town, i dont for a second see anything scummy she done, her voting falcon instead of the big cat counterwagon lacks self-preservation, i dunno whats anyones problem is with her at least im not seeing it, she seems to be playing her town game in my eyes

[cat]

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
See you later, or after the game.

[dyachei]

If I give in to the "too easy" feeling on Cat I might want to kill Marmot or Syn. Any takers?

i've never played with syn before and I think marmot is being slightly villa

talk about syn some?

[juliets]

Hello all, I just wanted to alert you that I put the very fast moving images (3 of them) in spoilers.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
See you later, or after the game.

This took a lot of courage

[Sloonei]

I have to leave shortly. I won't be around for the deadline. I like my vote on Hyena and encourage others to look there. Here is my most recent argument about him, in addition to things that were said earlier in the phase, pre-claim.

The other multi-vote wagons right now appear to be cat, falcon, nutella, and thunal. If I'm ranking them in order of preference I'd go:
cat
Thunal
Falcon
[A wide gap]
nutella

But all of the nutella votes feel like leftovers from an bygone era way back at the start of this phase a hundred years ago, so I don't think she's a viable wagon anyway. I think I want to leave my vote on Hyena to at least promote him as an option as we move toward the deadline. Thank you for your support, Kyle. I prefer cat over Thunal if things do not change from their current trajectory. If I can keep an eye on the thread while I'm at work, I will, but there's no guarantee of that.

This has been probably the highest volume Day 1 I've ever participated in. Excellent work, y'all. Let's make it a successful one. Keep doing what needs to be done.

[Timsup2nothin]

If I give in to the "too easy" feeling on Cat I might want to kill Marmot or Syn. Any takers?

i've never played with syn before and I think marmot is being slightly villa

talk about syn some?

That was just a murderous urge.

I've mostly felt the same as you about Marmot, and Syn is...being Syn. I'd say basically rand town, no better but not any worse. Maybe even a slight amount of "w!Syn wouldn't have antagonized Tutuu," but that's not a hard fact, just a slight lean.

[Sloonei]

@Long Con best not be leaving his vote where it is. @falcon45ca too. you crazy canadians.

[falcon45ca]

@Long Con best not be leaving his vote where it is. @falcon45ca too. you crazy canadians.

I have to be crazy to live where I live...it was -55 Celsius with the windchill yesterday.





Today is only -28, so I'm not wearing any pants. 'Natch

[Kylemii]

Thank you for your support, Kyle.

you're welcome, love you