Spider-verse Mafia [DAY 6]

[MacDougall]

Spew rarely fails me. It's pretty legit spew. Look for yourself.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

There's this and zero clearing between Esooa/Grogu. It's probably just Esooa here.

Who is Spider-Ham and why aren't they CCing Esooa?

Where did she even claim that role?

Like 20 min ago?

Maybe it's just a wolf role.

Esooa looks like a slam dunk Grogu partner.

I know but she also was like “this role is stupid” and the blocks and half assed soap boxes match that. That’s what Kza saw that nobody else did.

[Epignosis]

There were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)

I have no kept track of roles which must be here.

I see you're having a hard time answering my question, "Who is bad?"

Dude, I literally answered that in my original post to Syn, before you even asked me. You aren't even bothering to read my posts at this point, which is a bad look from someone who "apparently" suspects me.

Two things:

I'm not reading most of the posts at all, and

I don't give a shit about "bad looks."

But since I have you on the horn, I'll ask about these posts in response to MacDougall (not Syn).

if Mac is confirmed town, why is he in everyone's POE

tf is going on

Because everyone left alive are either me, trolls, slankers or neg uitl

I am a slanker. hardcore didn't get engaged until like D4, but I feel like I was pretty useful D5.

But those that are saying there are only 1 or 2 wolves alive are pretty much guaranteed to be flat out wrong. There are probably 3, possibly 2 (there were 8 wolves in the original setup, we have 4 wolves flipped. It seems likely when the game went from 30 players down to 26, at least one wolf was removed. Less likely but possible, two wolves were removed. The only possible way that there is only 1 wolf left is if one of the people we voted was the seemer, but that seems extremely unlikely at this point. Much more likely is that we haven't flipped the seemer, in which case there are either 3 wolves left (if 3 town roles were removed, and 1 wolf role was removed) or less likely 2 wolves left (if 2 town roles were removed and 2 wolf roles were removed).

We should check Mac's story, but if that is un-countered, I feel good about it. I do remember talk of the scion moving around, so that role should be here.

Everyone seems to have Esooa in their PoE, which makes me worry about that.

Guillo has been super intense and Nutella seemed to think they were outed based on their night post two nights ago, but I don't see it, and Guillo pushed pretty hard on Grogu earlier than everyone else did. Maybe distancing, maybe just guillo seeing wolves where it took the rest of us longer to see.

Jack has been a bit meh. He looked good in his post spurt yesterday, pushing for a Grogu yeet, but this was after I think most of town was already there, so idk how much credit that is worth.

Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up. He is scumreading me hard. Idk if it is genuine or not, probably not at this point just considering the density of wolves.

Is that everyone? wow, okay, game small now.

So, three wolves there, if I had to guess, I'd say {Esooa, Epi, Jack}.

If I would have been the first to answer about hero shooting, I would have said Esooa, trusting some fallen camrades but at this point idk, I'm scared because of how many people are intersecting on Esooa.

I'll start with me.

Talk to me about me.

"Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up."

Would you say I had a hand in the Michelle lynch?

Would you say I had a hand in the Grogu lynch?

If I'm wrong about you having done nothing, I'll listen to contrary evidence, so feel free to present it. I don't remember you doing anything of note, aside from popping into the thread and complaining about how you don't have time to play. You are PoE'd imo.

The irony is that I have over twice your post and have caught two mafia members. What have you accomplished?

Tell me about how you "caught" Grogu? What were your thoughts there? Spell it out to me. Please. In detail. It should clear you if you show your process, right?

My posts aren't long to read. You can read them.

[MacDougall]

actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

I don't understand what the question is tbh.

[Epignosis]

Seanzie is going to spend the rest of the time responding to me instead of sorting out who is mafia.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Like I believe that Esooa is that townie more than I believe the wolves have a secret role that lets them soapbox and they used it for this and then Esooa, after playing kinda an obvious wolf game, perfectly fakes annoyance at her worthless pretend town role.

[Epignosis]

Seanzie does not give a shit who is bad. That's because Seanzie knows who is bad. Seanzie is stuck.

[Seanzie]

Does anyone know if soup kill can happen with only one wolf alive?

[MacDougall]

fuck it just shoot seanzie then

Syn you care too much you're a day 6 sub just give me the gun lol

[Syn]

actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

I don't understand what the question is tbh.

if the vote screenshots include vote power changes, we can do vote count analysis

and if soup kills aren't impacted by people claiming, then I call bullshit on the people being cagey when we're effectively at LYLO

[MacDougall]

actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

I don't understand what the question is tbh.

if the vote screenshots include vote power changes, we can do vote count analysis

and if soup kills aren't impacted by people claiming, then I call bullshit on the people being cagey when we're effectively at LYLO

the soup kill is literally anticlaim

everyone who died did so with the most votes so there's no evidence of vote manip

[Seanzie]

Epi is refusing to explain how he "caught" grogu, and is trying to shade me, for what? Not having time to respond both to him and hunt? Sure, if Epi keeps pressuring me to respond, my only choices are to ignore him or not actually do anything productive.

Most of the people who died last night had me as town. Telling that Epi is jumping on me like this now.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I want Seanzie to tell us who the wolves are if not him.

[Seanzie]

Also, DON'T shoot me until someone answers me about the soup kill:

Can wolves soup with only one wolf left alive?

[Seanzie]

I want Seanzie to tell us who the wolves are if not him.

I fkn' did this already. Read my first post to Syn (as Epi pointed out, sure it was in reply to Mac, but it was in regards to Syn's original questions)

[Jackofhearts2005]

Also, DON'T shoot me until someone answers me about the soup kill:

Can wolves soup with only one wolf left alive?

I don’t see why not.

But only at night, which makes claiming strong at lylo

[MacDougall]

FUCK SHIT

[MacDougall]

Also, DON'T shoot me until someone answers me about the soup kill:

Can wolves soup with only one wolf left alive?

I don’t see why not.

But only at night, which makes claiming strong at lylo

If you are confident there is only one mafia left then sure

[Seanzie]

Please answer me: CAN WOLVES SOUP WITH ONLY ONE WOLF ALIVE?

I asked LC, but he hasn't responded.

[Syn]

actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

I don't understand what the question is tbh.

if the vote screenshots include vote power changes, we can do vote count analysis

and if soup kills aren't impacted by people claiming, then I call bullshit on the people being cagey when we're effectively at LYLO

the soup kill is literally anticlaim

everyone who died did so with the most votes so there's no evidence of vote manip

2 to 3 wolves left

wolves already had their mega soup kills

if I shoot a wolf

and we chop a wolf, and that's not game over

there's no soup kill left, only the assigned kill

so someone tell me why I shouldn't just force everyone to claim their role right this very second

[Jackofhearts2005]

This is why you’re a orc, Mac.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Also, DON'T shoot me until someone answers me about the soup kill:

Can wolves soup with only one wolf left alive?

I don’t see why not.

But only at night, which makes claiming strong at lylo

If you are confident there is only one mafia left then sure

And I will be if Seanzie dies and the game doesn’t end. Which is totes unfair but there it is.

[Seanzie]

Also, DON'T shoot me until someone answers me about the soup kill:

Can wolves soup with only one wolf left alive?

I don’t see why not.

But only at night, which makes claiming strong at lylo

Because the tradeoff for soup is that two wolves need to not use their NA's right, can that happen with only one wolf?

This is important.

[Epignosis]

Epi is refusing to explain how he "caught" grogu, and is trying to shade me, for what? Not having time to respond both to him and hunt? Sure, if Epi keeps pressuring me to respond, my only choices are to ignore him or not actually do anything productive.

Most of the people who died last night had me as town. Telling that Epi is jumping on me like this now.

I didn't catch Grogu.

Chardonnay did and I caught hell for getting people to listen to Chardonnay, also from civilians who died.

I drove a nail in Grogu's webby coffin.

Your defense here reeks of someone who KNOWS I'm civilian but is struggling to get out of that suspicion via legitimate means.

You are mafia.

Your most compelling reason for you being a civilian is that people who died called you good? Seriously?

What have you accomplished in the thread?

[Seanzie]

actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

I don't understand what the question is tbh.

if the vote screenshots include vote power changes, we can do vote count analysis

and if soup kills aren't impacted by people claiming, then I call bullshit on the people being cagey when we're effectively at LYLO

the soup kill is literally anticlaim

everyone who died did so with the most votes so there's no evidence of vote manip

2 to 3 wolves left

wolves already had their mega soup kills

if I shoot a wolf

and we chop a wolf, and that's not game over

there's no soup kill left, only the assigned kill

so someone tell me why I shouldn't just force everyone to claim their role right this very second

If there are no soup kills with one wolf, then yes, we should do this.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Also, DON'T shoot me until someone answers me about the soup kill:

Can wolves soup with only one wolf left alive?

I don’t see why not.

But only at night, which makes claiming strong at lylo

Because the tradeoff for soup is that two wolves need to not use their NA's right, can that happen with only one wolf?

This is important.

Oh, I didn’t know that because I don’t pay attention to wolf rolecards.

Gottem.

[Epignosis]

I want Seanzie to tell us who the wolves are if not him.

I fkn' did this already. Read my first post to Syn (as Epi pointed out, sure it was in reply to Mac, but it was in regards to Syn's original questions)

A civilian would gladly reiterate his or her suspects over and over.

You are not a civilian.

You are mafia.

Be gone.

[Epignosis]

I am actually Spider HAM up in here right now.

[Syn]

fyi epi going "lel let's ignore claims, reeeee chop Seanzie immediately" is not a good look if a soup kill isn't possible with a wolf shot/chop

[Seanzie]

Epi is refusing to explain how he "caught" grogu, and is trying to shade me, for what? Not having time to respond both to him and hunt? Sure, if Epi keeps pressuring me to respond, my only choices are to ignore him or not actually do anything productive.

Most of the people who died last night had me as town. Telling that Epi is jumping on me like this now.

I didn't catch Grogu.

Chardonnay did and I caught hell for getting people to listen to Chardonnay, also from civilians who died.

I drove a nail in Grogu's webby coffin.

Your defense here reeks of someone who KNOWS I'm civilian but is struggling to get out of that suspicion via legitimate means.

You are mafia.

Your most compelling reason for you being a civilian is that people who died called you good? Seriously?

What have you accomplished in the thread?

Tell me how you drove a nail into Grogu's coffin? Please explain. Also explain how you knew Chard was town? Did you not believe KZA? Why not? What was your thought pattern? Please explain how what you did was not just TMI?

[Syn]

I am actually Spider HAM up in here right now.

is this a joke or a counterclaim

[Seanzie]

I am actually Spider HAM up in here right now.

Why haven't you posted messages for the past 3 nights?

[Epignosis]

Epi is refusing to explain how he "caught" grogu, and is trying to shade me, for what? Not having time to respond both to him and hunt? Sure, if Epi keeps pressuring me to respond, my only choices are to ignore him or not actually do anything productive.

Most of the people who died last night had me as town. Telling that Epi is jumping on me like this now.

I didn't catch Grogu.

Chardonnay did and I caught hell for getting people to listen to Chardonnay, also from civilians who died.

I drove a nail in Grogu's webby coffin.

Your defense here reeks of someone who KNOWS I'm civilian but is struggling to get out of that suspicion via legitimate means.

You are mafia.

Your most compelling reason for you being a civilian is that people who died called you good? Seriously?

What have you accomplished in the thread?

Tell me how you drove a nail into Grogu's coffin? Please explain. Also explain how you knew Chard was town? Did you not believe KZA? Why not? What was your thought pattern? Please explain how what you did was not just TMI?

Didn't read the thread.

Just called bullshit on bullshit and got it done.

Just that good.

[Epignosis]

God I'm playing with children.

[Epignosis]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=go%20ham

[Jackofhearts2005]

actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

I don't understand what the question is tbh.

if the vote screenshots include vote power changes, we can do vote count analysis

and if soup kills aren't impacted by people claiming, then I call bullshit on the people being cagey when we're effectively at LYLO

the soup kill is literally anticlaim

everyone who died did so with the most votes so there's no evidence of vote manip

2 to 3 wolves left

wolves already had their mega soup kills

if I shoot a wolf

and we chop a wolf, and that's not game over

there's no soup kill left, only the assigned kill

so someone tell me why I shouldn't just force everyone to claim their role right this very second

If there are 3 wolves left, smh.

Secret roles. Some roles aren’t provable so if me, Guillo, Epi and Seanzie claimed four different unprovable roles, you’re not really in a better spot and now you can’t afford to get it wrong whereas if you blast Seanzie (flips wolf) and then chop say Esooa (flips town) and you and Mac get souped, that gives me and Epi and Guillo a day to find the wolf between us. If we all claim, we lose that day.

That’s pretty cornercasey.

I prefer to have Seanzie claim and go from there.

[Syn]

k

all you goobers are put in time out

claims, now

anyone who doesn't is in my gun list

mac and esooa are no longer in contention

if we get a good shot and a good chop, there's no soup kill and we have 3 town to catch 1 wolf if that isn't game over

[Seanzie]

k

all you goobers are put in time out

claims, now

anyone who doesn't is in my gun list

mac and esooa are no longer in contention

if we get a good shot and a good chop, there's no soup kill and we have 3 town to catch 1 wolf if that isn't game over

I'm going to claim last, and if after my claim you have any doubt about me, shoot me immediately.

[Epignosis]

I'm not claiming.

[Syn]

I'm not claiming.

you are currently occupying the #1 slot in my list already so this doesn't change much for me

[Jackofhearts2005]

I thought about fake ccing Spiderham and I’m glad I didn’t.

[Epignosis]

I'm not claiming.

you are currently occupying the #1 slot in my list already so this doesn't change much for me

Behold the field where my fucks are sown.

Alas, it is barren.

[Syn]

I'm not claiming.

you are currently occupying the #1 slot in my list already so this doesn't change much for me

Behold the field where my fucks are sown.

Alas, it is barren.

if you are town, you are throwing the game by doing this

[Syn]

I thought about fake ccing Spiderham and I’m glad I didn’t.

claim pls

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’d strongly object to a shot on Epi over Seanzie and meekly object to a massclaim.

[Syn]

@Guillotine

claim pls

[Jackofhearts2005]

I thought about fake ccing Spiderham and I’m glad I didn’t.

claim pls

Not before Seanzie, tiger.

[Epignosis]

I'm not claiming.

you are currently occupying the #1 slot in my list already so this doesn't change much for me

Behold the field where my fucks are sown.

Alas, it is barren.

if you are town, you are throwing the game by doing this

Perhaps you might use your critical thinking skills and realize there is a rational reason I won't claim instead of bullying me into doing it.

[Seanzie]

Syn, look at Epi and Jack right now.

I promise you, any doubts what-so-ever, you can shoot me. Just let me claim last.

[Syn]

I'll try insulting the guy with the dayvig, that's a neat trick