Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Syn]

i want tim to shoot me

[Long Con]

Just requesting a headcount, who wants made to get nightyeeted tonight, Vs. who thinks someone else should be eliminated from the PoE via nightyeet, and if so who please. Thanks, love you.

Well, no. I don't want Made death. I think Made is town and should be protected and cherished. Let's nightyeet.... Jack.

[Justplayingitcool]

TSP wagon is bad

[Justplayingitcool]

Just requesting a headcount, who wants made to get nightyeeted tonight, Vs. who thinks someone else should be eliminated from the PoE via nightyeet, and if so who please. Thanks, love you.

I don't want made killed atm

I say nanook but I honestly could not give you a reason why

[Long Con]

i want tim to shoot me

It just looks so...

[hollowkatt]

the marmot cfd was pretty out of the blue and it worked

we have fool proof evidence that flash wagons are incredibly pro-town and probably the best strategy for town to employ much to the demise to a canadian hater girl somewhere out there in the cold

town leaders, do ur magic, i know u can

isn't this post much better written as "sheep nutella"?

[hollowkatt]

HK since then the wagon composition is important when you make a read?

When I feel like it does.
Like I haven't paid much attention to the game, that's blatantly obvious. I've done some ISO reading that mostly just solidifies town reads instead of giving me wolf reads to push, so when I'm looking at the wagons we currently have if I think there are less town people on wagon A vs wagon B wagon B I feel has more potential to be correct.

[hollowkatt]

Legit, maybe town wins should get an extra advancement slot. Someone should pitch that to the jury.

if wolves win the town who spent the most time in ohio should advance

advance out of Ohio maybe, I can buy that.

[hollowkatt]

Spoiler: show

Ok, why though?
Like I'm thinking back to the spec chat game where I did some crafty setup for a future chop on town as wolf before I went over, townies bought it, and we went on to win the game. Hard defense of someone town as wolf is something that should be in every wolves repertoire, yeah? Especially because it leads into situations like this.
And, in my experience, when done correctly it's generally a wolf that brings it back up after a day or two so that they can look solving while susing town and not getting any heat back from it.

'I did this thing one time and therefore Radishes is mafia.'

Makes sense.

Wow, that's reductive and unhelpful! Good job

Your original attempt to explain why I might be a wolf was reductive and unhelpful. I responded in kind.

If you're town and you want to avoid getting mischopped, you need to do more, because you're deep in the PoE.

I'm literally always deep in the POE, or I'm dead. Those are the only two ways things go with me.
The question you should be asking is, am I purposefully misdirecting things or am I just muddling through.

Maybe. You were pretty clear in Syn's game, right up until I began to tinfoil your emotional breakdown right before you were NKed.

I prefer to draw my own conclusions each game without overreliance on meta, personally. Meta changes. It's a baseline, not more.

I wasn't talking about meta though, I was talking about looking through past games and seeing where I sit with regards to being either dead or POE. There are outliers, sure, but generally speaking I'm either townie enough to be a very early kill, or I'm POE till the game is over, or I'm chopped.

[hollowkatt]

the marmot cfd was pretty out of the blue and it worked

we have fool proof evidence that flash wagons are incredibly pro-town and probably the best strategy for town to employ much to the demise to a canadian hater girl somewhere out there in the cold

town leaders, do ur magic, i know u can

This might be...watchmacallit...survivor bias? Dunno if that's the right one.

But anyway, flash wagons work for me more often than they don't. People who say they are anti-town (*cough*Alison) simply don't wield the weapon of the flash wagon correctly.

survivor bias is when some of your ww2 planes return home riddled with bullets and u see that they all have bullet holes only in specific areas so the bias is to think that u should fortify those areas that have the holes when in reality the planes who didnt return are the ones who had bullets in the other parts coz they were critical so in reality u should fortify the places on your plane that come back without a scratch on them

i dont know if this translates to flash wagons but its a really cool thing

I don't even care if she is a wolf. For this post alone we are not killing Tutuu. Fite me.

FINE

[Justplayingitcool]

@hollowkatt

Hey, just curious if you read the sloonei case on you and what you made of it?

[tutuu]

Just requesting a headcount, who wants made to get nightyeeted tonight, Vs. who thinks someone else should be eliminated from the PoE via nightyeet, and if so who please. Thanks, love you.

i dont think anybody should and if u have a vig please dont shoot there

[tutuu]

misread

like idk shoot wilgy or nook

[hollowkatt]

please include in the "why" why it's also better to nightyeet them than to dayyeet them

nightyeet me resolves questions around my slot, removes LHF for wolves to push, and sheds light on the people taking a stand on my alignment.

[hollowkatt]

@hollowkatt

Hey, just curious if you read the sloonei case on you and what you made of it?

case seems to be two posts from the Cat ISO, and this one:

[VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

They dropped a Big Salad in here earlier. Cat's interactions with/about Thunal were less than stellar. I vaguely remember being suspicious of Thunal a thousand years ago on Day 1. I don't know what other developments there have been with regards to this slot, but I encourage discussion there.

I have to go to work again. I'll be back to dive into more things later.

The two cat posts are posts where cat was shading Dya for susing Thunal, and also cat wondering why Thunal is a wagon.
Case is basically predicated on associations or interactions that Sloonei sees in Cat posts that don't look good for me. I was expecting a Thunal/HK case in there, not two posts and a follow-up based off of the Cat ISO. Unless I completely missed the case somewhere.

It's a case, I can say that much at least.

[Syn]

i want tim to shoot me

It just looks so...

i love this and you

[Kylemii]

I see some good arguments for nanook, and hollowkatt, and also jack. Anyone else?

[Master Radishes]

Oh damn, it's nearly EoD isn't it. I don't think I'll be around for it.

[Master Radishes]

I'm good with 112, Hollowkatt, Nanook, Jack.

I think TSP and Wilgy are cop-outs. Not hard-defending them, just saying those slots are bleh.

[Master Radishes]

Yeah MYC was robbed but when town plays really well, it’s hard to pick who advances.

Don't get me wrong, I don't know who I could possibly have dropped from the 5 who did make it (4 of us are in this game, I just noticed!).

voting that game was one of the hardest mafia related things i've had to do. So many vv strong players. Glad to have been involved.

Oh damn, and you - you should have advanced too. I get why you didn't (N1 kill etc) but by the letter of what we were voting for you should've too.

[Justplayingitcool]

This EoD feels very anticlimactic compared to D2

[tutuu]

god this is so funny

[Hyena]

Alright, I'm back.

*yawn*

I might keep my vote on TSP a little while longer just to see if it or another wagon overtakes the 112 wagon. I'm gonna go check who left the 112 wagon aside from me because I remember it having 7 people on it after I left it.

[112]

when i flip, look at everyone who voted for me except nute, who is just misguided

[Hyena]

Oh wait, right. I can't do that as easily as I thought I could. This might take longer than I thought.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Also I've misunderstood the phrase exception that proves the rule for like forever

Yeah tbh unless you’re just hand waving evidence, idk what it means.

[tutuu]

im not too sure about 112 can we like yeet someone else? i can change my vote

[nutella]

I'm good with 112, Hollowkatt, Nanook, Jack.

I think TSP and Wilgy are cop-outs. Not hard-defending them, just saying those slots are bleh.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm good with 112, Hollowkatt, Nanook, Jack.

I think TSP and Wilgy are cop-outs. Not hard-defending them, just saying those slots are bleh.

You dropped this “and maybe.”

[nutella]

when i flip, look at everyone who voted for me except nute, who is just misguided

[Justplayingitcool]

I think 112 isn't going to be a scum flip

[Jackofhearts2005]

I feel like we should feel more sure on D3 after only hits.

[Syn]

I feel like we should feel more sure on D3 after only hits.

why

marmot was caught by my case on him, which relied on cat analysis and his interactions with the n1 NK

[Hyena]

Okay, it looks like it was seven people BEFORE I left. Those seven, according to Michelle's vote count during the 6am EST hour + Dizzy's vote for 112 at 6:56am, are:

Made, Nute, Kyle, Tutuu, JPIC, Hyena, Dizzy.

There are now 5 people on 112. Those people are:

Made, Kyle, Jack, Nute, Nanook

These are the people who moved votes and who they're voting:
Tutuu is now voting Jack
JPIC is now voting Jack
Dizzy is now voting for Wilgy

Anyway, I'm going back here now.
[VOTE: 112] aubergine

[112]

I think 112 isn't going to be a scum flip

[Jackofhearts2005]

I feel like we should feel more sure on D3 after only hits.

why

marmot was caught by my case on him, which relied on cat analysis and his interactions with the n1 NK

Because we have more info to work with with two dead wolves.

Okay.

[Kylemii]

who was it that after I pointed out 112's leaving the catwagon said something about wifom, was that jpic?

[Kylemii]

the purple avatar person

[Justplayingitcool]

who was it that after I pointed out 112's leaving the catwagon said something about wifom, was that jpic?

hello

[falcon45ca]

when i flip, look at everyone who voted for me except nute, who is just misguided

Made, hyena, Kylemii, nanook, jack.


Who looks the worst and why? Nanook is just sheeping nut, or so he says

[Jackofhearts2005]

And I’m just unhappy with the other wagons.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Or so I say.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Martin] aubergineI propose a CFD on Martin.


Tally ho!

[Justplayingitcool]

[VOTE: Martin] aubergineI propose a CFD on Martin.


Tally ho!

I honestly don't hate this

[Made]

[VOTE: Martin] aubergineI propose a CFD on Martin.


Tally ho!

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: martin] aubergine

[112]

when i flip, look at everyone who voted for me except nute, who is just misguided

Made, hyena, Kylemii, nanook, jack.


Who looks the worst and why? Nanook is just sheeping nut, or so he says

nanook bcuz he's been sus the whole game

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: Martin] aubergineI propose a CFD on Martin.


Tally ho!

wait. explain

[Jackofhearts2005]

Sell me on Martin. I don’t have an opinion on them vs 112.

[Made]

[VOTE: Martin] aubergineI propose a CFD on Martin.


Tally ho!

wait. explain

ehh, i just don't like fire drills