Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Justplayingitcool]

All these claims and I still have no idea why I was sent something N2

[dunya]

we decided to allow this game to run until 2022 to make it the most memorable game in GoC history. you're making history!

[Justplayingitcool]

we decided to allow this game to run until 2022 to make it the most memorable game in GoC history. you're making history!

I hope I get paid

[Justplayingitcool]

oops don't know why the writing went big there

[hollowkatt]

Spoiler: show

Maybe Tim is a wolf. I can't believe he's this whiny about a game where his team is winnings handily, and I've been assuming he's doing this on purpose. But like, if you want to take on the role of not letting your team get complacent, you so the work to poke at the fringes yourself, not complain and degrade your team's work incessantly.

So maybe he's just a wolf who is hoping to get to a stage where he can say he told us so and foster confusion and paranoia. Considering the flipped scum roles so far have been collectively pretty weak, maybe he was their extra KP.

LOL...sure man...best way to blend in has always been harassing the town core. Mafia 101.

I just disagree about the "winning handily" part. A bunch of wolves are dead, and that's great. But some number remain and I don't see any indication that anyone has the first clue who they are. Case in point "well, beats me, how about the irritating guy?"

Yes, a bunch are dead and that's great, and some 3p are dead too! Importantly, less town are dead than could be.
You say we don't have the first clue where the wolves are, but I'm also not seeing you giving insight of your own, just complaining that we're not winning hard enough.
so how do we win harder, Tim?

Find a wolf? Or at least look for one. At least half the Ted voters have acknowledged that he's probably not a wolf. They are voting him because he's claimed 3P and they are, in their estimation, such big dick town that we have this won anyway and can spare spare the time to just kill the 3P before we even look for the wolf or wolves. As the town (mostly) confirmed that has no significant mech power I think I have a very good chance of being stuck in this all the way to F3 if it gets that far, and I am not looking forward to mucking through all this "yeah let's just chop Ted and figure the wolf thing will get sorted out later" bullshit.

[VOTE: Tim] aubergine what if I say I found one and it's you?

I'd laugh at you until you came up with an actual case for me to take apart.

you could start by perhaps engaging and helping to find said wolves instead of just kvetching at the thread continually? Like my only recollection of you doing anything today is complaining that we're just blindly chopping Ted, yeah? If that's a bad idea, where should we be looking? Where do you think the last wolves are hiding?
I'm not planning on casing you, just throwing shade till you do something productive. If you don't do something productive THEN I'll work up the case.

What you have going for you: The kills don't make sense from a wolf?Tim perspective and you're not guiding town to chops that advantage you if you were a wolf. Likewise, you're not playing cautiously or trying to make good with town.
Those are the positives I've got for you.

The negatives are that you're generally dodging/avoiding me, syn, and radish other than to snark or handwave things off. You're not hunting, you're generally coasting.
There's no "gotcha" post coming from me towards you, just a growing sense of "this might be a hit" and frankly I'm concerned.

[hollowkatt]

we decided to allow this game to run until 2022 to make it the most memorable game in GoC history. you're making history!

cool, see y'all in May.

[dunya]

we decided to allow this game to run until 2022 to make it the most memorable game in GoC history. you're making history!

i'm just kidding, but if i fix it now, it'll ruin the poll and everyone will have to revote so i won't.

day ends March 2, 6pm est as usual. I'll copy the poll at exactly 6pm EST. please honor that. thanks. i love u all.

[Syn]

with every subsequent host post the font size goes up by 2

this is a threat

[Syn]

is alison's win con reliant on not being explicitly town-sided still

maybe we can peer pressure her to get involved

[Master Radishes]

mr radishes is the william nylander of this game

just bench him when he starts floating and suddenly you get the all-star again

yeah you like that leafs reference, MR?

Listen.

I like Nylander.

I wanted him at the draft.

We could have had him.

But you know who the Nucks had just hired?

Jim 'Jimbo' Benning.

You know who he took isntead of the highly skilled Nylander (or Ehlers)?

Jake 'meat and potatoes' Virtanen.

I'm not joking when I say I was one of the very first on the anti-Benning train all the way back to that decision.

[Justplayingitcool]

Let's talk about real sports, like Marblelympics for example

[Master Radishes]

Let's talk about real sports, like Marblelympics for example

Oceanics FTW.

I'm just used to disappointment in all my sports fandom.



(Tbf they sometimes surprisingly win things!)

[DrWilgy]

Oh... Snorefest

what do you think of the votes now?

Boring. Both falcon45ca, and Hyena can likely resolve in PoE.

Dude, I just remembered something, lol. Why did people bite mine and Falcon's head off when we voted Alison D1(?) and no one is complaining now about people voting for Ted, another 3P claim?

Game momentum shifts.

[DrWilgy]

Hello everyone. I have power again. What did I miss?

Are we advocating for early claims again?

That's literally never been a good thing.

Hallelujah I can speak.

Thanks for figuring out my situation, y’all. I have been busy and did not keep up very well, so I just sheeded nutella at the end of the day.

I will remain somewhat busy for this phase. I have two wolves to analyze for associative reads. I intend to make that my primary focus, since I will likely be unable to catch myself up this phase, so I feel like this is the most effective use of my time right now. I will certainly be here to answer any questions that you all have for me.

yeet sloonei

friendos: I present to you the entirity of Wiggly D3..

To my defense I was busy being frozen.

[Justplayingitcool]

Let's talk about real sports, like Marblelympics for example

Oceanics FTW.

I'm just used to disappointment in all my sports fandom.



(Tbf they sometimes surprisingly win things!)

Anyone who doesn't support the Balls of Chaos is scum in my books

[Master Radishes]

Spoiler: show

Mech lock town no one ever tinfoil
Jack
TSP

Probably mech not scum because how fucking elaborate a lie would that be? And like he vigged Nanook so
Kyle

If above is correct then SHOULD be town but there’s room for doubt I guess + both have been targeted by known scum at some point
Long Con
Tutuu

Just strongly strongly TR
JPIC
Syn

Maybe indy maybe not
Ted

Indy doing her own thaaang
Alison

-

Leftover (in no order) – I can’t necessarily eliminate any of these I guess
Michelle
Made
Hollowkatt
Wilgy
Tim
Hyena
Dizzy


-

Technically LC and tutuu (and Kyle?) go back in the PoE if Ted flips 3P because there'd be mech questions about Kyle getting dingdinged.

And that last group includes people I'm pretty confident are town but can't technically eliminate I guess.

Syn silenced Sloonei. He's as mech cleared town as anyone.

JPIC despite all the "oh just bleeds green, trust me" reads has no particular actions that are town indicative that I recall.

I'd get rid of that category altogether.

I'd put Hyena in the mech clears. His claim is verified, and he has "used his power for good" consistently. Admittedly if he were a wolf he certainly couldn't use it any other way, but I don't think a wolf is put in such a lame position by hosts.

That's a good point on Syn. I agree.

JPIC has lots of actions that are town indicative. His entire being this game is town indicative. What's missing is anything scum indicative.

Hyena is not mech clear. That role is likely a town role, I agree, but I don't trust that sort of read considering a lot of roles have been a bit neutral-ish/could be on either team in this game. All mech aside, Hyena has done f all this game since D1 and fits perfectly into any world, so he remains in that pool for me, even if I agree he's not choice numero uno.

[DrWilgy]

I humbly suggest we not chop ted and let him target made tonight

made softed the relevance of a shot and ted asked why his shot has to be a strongarm instead of a normal vig

made claimed invulnerability

the boss ship in FTL is cited as being nigh invulnerable

This is smart.

Is this still smart when Ted blams one of us in the face?

[DrWilgy]

we decided to allow this game to run until 2022 to make it the most memorable game in GoC history. you're making history!

i'm just kidding, but if i fix it now, it'll ruin the poll and everyone will have to revote so i won't.

day ends March 2, 6pm est as usual. I'll copy the poll at exactly 6pm EST. please honor that. thanks. i love u all.

bless

<3 you too mom

[hollowkatt]

Let's talk about real sports, like Marblelympics for example

Oceanics FTW.

I'm just used to disappointment in all my sports fandom.



(Tbf they sometimes surprisingly win things!)

Raspberry Racers 4 lyfe yo

[Made]

I humbly suggest we not chop ted and let him target made tonight

made softed the relevance of a shot and ted asked why his shot has to be a strongarm instead of a normal vig

made claimed invulnerability

the boss ship in FTL is cited as being nigh invulnerable

This is smart.

Is this still smart when Ted blams one of us in the face?

wait...we're planning on shooting me? that's dumb tho, especially if his shot strongarm

[DrWilgy]

Someone eli5 why Syn silencing Sloonei mech clears them?

[hollowkatt]

Hello everyone. I have power again. What did I miss?

Are we advocating for early claims again?

That's literally never been a good thing.

Hallelujah I can speak.

Thanks for figuring out my situation, y’all. I have been busy and did not keep up very well, so I just sheeded nutella at the end of the day.

I will remain somewhat busy for this phase. I have two wolves to analyze for associative reads. I intend to make that my primary focus, since I will likely be unable to catch myself up this phase, so I feel like this is the most effective use of my time right now. I will certainly be here to answer any questions that you all have for me.

yeet sloonei

friendos: I present to you the entirity of Wiggly D3..

To my defense I was busy being frozen.

ok, so talk to me about the sloonei eod3 vote if you can. Why did you make it and what were you thinking/buying into at the time?

[hollowkatt]

Let's talk about real sports, like Marblelympics for example

Oceanics FTW.

I'm just used to disappointment in all my sports fandom.



(Tbf they sometimes surprisingly win things!)

Anyone who doesn't support the Balls of Chaos is scum in my books

Balls of Chaos are my second fav team

[DrWilgy]

I humbly suggest we not chop ted and let him target made tonight

made softed the relevance of a shot and ted asked why his shot has to be a strongarm instead of a normal vig

made claimed invulnerability

the boss ship in FTL is cited as being nigh invulnerable

This is smart.

Is this still smart when Ted blams one of us in the face?

wait...we're planning on shooting me? that's dumb tho, especially if his shot strongarm

Yeah bro, I wanna see you catch a bullet with your teeth.

[Made]

Someone eli5 why Syn silencing Sloonei mech clears them?

why would you use the baddie power your teammate had to silence your teammate the second time around?

Also, Syn lead the marmot lynch. in concert, those are good enough for me to clear him

[Timsup2nothin]

Spoiler: show

Maybe Tim is a wolf. I can't believe he's this whiny about a game where his team is winnings handily, and I've been assuming he's doing this on purpose. But like, if you want to take on the role of not letting your team get complacent, you so the work to poke at the fringes yourself, not complain and degrade your team's work incessantly.

So maybe he's just a wolf who is hoping to get to a stage where he can say he told us so and foster confusion and paranoia. Considering the flipped scum roles so far have been collectively pretty weak, maybe he was their extra KP.

LOL...sure man...best way to blend in has always been harassing the town core. Mafia 101.

I just disagree about the "winning handily" part. A bunch of wolves are dead, and that's great. But some number remain and I don't see any indication that anyone has the first clue who they are. Case in point "well, beats me, how about the irritating guy?"

Yes, a bunch are dead and that's great, and some 3p are dead too! Importantly, less town are dead than could be.
You say we don't have the first clue where the wolves are, but I'm also not seeing you giving insight of your own, just complaining that we're not winning hard enough.
so how do we win harder, Tim?

Find a wolf? Or at least look for one. At least half the Ted voters have acknowledged that he's probably not a wolf. They are voting him because he's claimed 3P and they are, in their estimation, such big dick town that we have this won anyway and can spare spare the time to just kill the 3P before we even look for the wolf or wolves. As the town (mostly) confirmed that has no significant mech power I think I have a very good chance of being stuck in this all the way to F3 if it gets that far, and I am not looking forward to mucking through all this "yeah let's just chop Ted and figure the wolf thing will get sorted out later" bullshit.

[VOTE: Tim] aubergine what if I say I found one and it's you?

I'd laugh at you until you came up with an actual case for me to take apart.

you could start by perhaps engaging and helping to find said wolves instead of just kvetching at the thread continually? Like my only recollection of you doing anything today is complaining that we're just blindly chopping Ted, yeah? If that's a bad idea, where should we be looking? Where do you think the last wolves are hiding?
I'm not planning on casing you, just throwing shade till you do something productive. If you don't do something productive THEN I'll work up the case.

What you have going for you: The kills don't make sense from a wolf?Tim perspective and you're not guiding town to chops that advantage you if you were a wolf. Likewise, you're not playing cautiously or trying to make good with town.
Those are the positives I've got for you.

The negatives are that you're generally dodging/avoiding me, syn, and radish other than to snark or handwave things off. You're not hunting, you're generally coasting.
There's no "gotcha" post coming from me towards you, just a growing sense of "this might be a hit" and frankly I'm concerned.

Now see, this is why I think you should case me.

Is my iSO full of bitching and moaning? Well, yes.

Have I played up the bitching and moaning? Well, yes. I am perhaps the only person who has made as many posts about how bitching and moaning was all I was going to do as Syn or Radishes have made.

But is bitching and moaning really all that I'm doing? That...that's a fair question.

PS: I'm not avoiding anyone in particular, I've just refused to answer certain questions at certain times...no matter who asked them. Not because they were bad questions, just because I recognized that under the circumstances at the time I had no answer that would be useful to town. Like right now who I might think the wolves are really makes not a lick of difference to the town, so if you ask I won't answer. That's not avoiding you, it's just reducing clutter.

[DrWilgy]

Hello everyone. I have power again. What did I miss?

Are we advocating for early claims again?

That's literally never been a good thing.

Hallelujah I can speak.

Thanks for figuring out my situation, y’all. I have been busy and did not keep up very well, so I just sheeded nutella at the end of the day.

I will remain somewhat busy for this phase. I have two wolves to analyze for associative reads. I intend to make that my primary focus, since I will likely be unable to catch myself up this phase, so I feel like this is the most effective use of my time right now. I will certainly be here to answer any questions that you all have for me.

yeet sloonei

friendos: I present to you the entirity of Wiggly D3..

To my defense I was busy being frozen.

ok, so talk to me about the sloonei eod3 vote if you can. Why did you make it and what were you thinking/buying into at the time?

Wasn't around. Still felt Sloonei was bad from d1 and d2. Hadn't had time to reinvest myself in the game. Dropped a vote on the person I thought was bad.

[DrWilgy]

Someone eli5 why Syn silencing Sloonei mech clears them?

why would you use the baddie power your teammate had to silence your teammate the second time around?

Also, Syn lead the marmot lynch. in concert, those are good enough for me to clear him

Shit dude, I'd silence myself for a clear and a day off.

Didn't realize Syn lead the marmot thing tho. I'll take your word for it.

[Made]

I humbly suggest we not chop ted and let him target made tonight

made softed the relevance of a shot and ted asked why his shot has to be a strongarm instead of a normal vig

made claimed invulnerability

the boss ship in FTL is cited as being nigh invulnerable

This is smart.

Is this still smart when Ted blams one of us in the face?

wait...we're planning on shooting me? that's dumb tho, especially if his shot strongarm

Yeah bro, I wanna see you catch a bullet with your teeth.

but i'm town, and trying to get rid of an invulnerable town is dumb. Like if you wanna make sure i'm not this FTL night invul thing, just chop me. I won't die there. I don't have anything that protects me from a strongarm

[Timsup2nothin]

I humbly suggest we not chop ted and let him target made tonight

made softed the relevance of a shot and ted asked why his shot has to be a strongarm instead of a normal vig

made claimed invulnerability

the boss ship in FTL is cited as being nigh invulnerable

This is smart.

Is this still smart when Ted blams one of us in the face?

Depends on who he blams in the face, doesn't it?

[DrWilgy]

I humbly suggest we not chop ted and let him target made tonight

made softed the relevance of a shot and ted asked why his shot has to be a strongarm instead of a normal vig

made claimed invulnerability

the boss ship in FTL is cited as being nigh invulnerable

This is smart.

Is this still smart when Ted blams one of us in the face?

wait...we're planning on shooting me? that's dumb tho, especially if his shot strongarm

Yeah bro, I wanna see you catch a bullet with your teeth.

but i'm town, and trying to get rid of an invulnerable town is dumb. Like if you wanna make sure i'm not this FTL night invul thing, just chop me. I won't die there. I don't have anything that protects me from a strongarm

fine

[DrWilgy]

I humbly suggest we not chop ted and let him target made tonight

made softed the relevance of a shot and ted asked why his shot has to be a strongarm instead of a normal vig

made claimed invulnerability

the boss ship in FTL is cited as being nigh invulnerable

This is smart.

Is this still smart when Ted blams one of us in the face?

Depends on who he blams in the face, doesn't it?

Would probably be Mac again.

Marmot and I shot Mac's corpse once.

[Made]

Also wait, softed the relevance of a shot? I don't know if there's some sort of role bullshit that involves shots. I'm saying that if we shoot people in our PoE, we have better odds in lylo...Repeating that outloud, I guess, targeting me with some sort of strong arm isn't bad play, but that would be so lame!!!

[hollowkatt]

Spoiler: show

LOL...sure man...best way to blend in has always been harassing the town core. Mafia 101.

I just disagree about the "winning handily" part. A bunch of wolves are dead, and that's great. But some number remain and I don't see any indication that anyone has the first clue who they are. Case in point "well, beats me, how about the irritating guy?"

Yes, a bunch are dead and that's great, and some 3p are dead too! Importantly, less town are dead than could be.
You say we don't have the first clue where the wolves are, but I'm also not seeing you giving insight of your own, just complaining that we're not winning hard enough.
so how do we win harder, Tim?

Find a wolf? Or at least look for one. At least half the Ted voters have acknowledged that he's probably not a wolf. They are voting him because he's claimed 3P and they are, in their estimation, such big dick town that we have this won anyway and can spare spare the time to just kill the 3P before we even look for the wolf or wolves. As the town (mostly) confirmed that has no significant mech power I think I have a very good chance of being stuck in this all the way to F3 if it gets that far, and I am not looking forward to mucking through all this "yeah let's just chop Ted and figure the wolf thing will get sorted out later" bullshit.

[VOTE: Tim] aubergine what if I say I found one and it's you?

I'd laugh at you until you came up with an actual case for me to take apart.

you could start by perhaps engaging and helping to find said wolves instead of just kvetching at the thread continually? Like my only recollection of you doing anything today is complaining that we're just blindly chopping Ted, yeah? If that's a bad idea, where should we be looking? Where do you think the last wolves are hiding?
I'm not planning on casing you, just throwing shade till you do something productive. If you don't do something productive THEN I'll work up the case.

What you have going for you: The kills don't make sense from a wolf?Tim perspective and you're not guiding town to chops that advantage you if you were a wolf. Likewise, you're not playing cautiously or trying to make good with town.
Those are the positives I've got for you.

The negatives are that you're generally dodging/avoiding me, syn, and radish other than to snark or handwave things off. You're not hunting, you're generally coasting.
There's no "gotcha" post coming from me towards you, just a growing sense of "this might be a hit" and frankly I'm concerned.

Now see, this is why I think you should case me.

Is my iSO full of bitching and moaning? Well, yes.

Have I played up the bitching and moaning? Well, yes. I am perhaps the only person who has made as many posts about how bitching and moaning was all I was going to do as Syn or Radishes have made.

But is bitching and moaning really all that I'm doing? That...that's a fair question.

PS: I'm not avoiding anyone in particular, I've just refused to answer certain questions at certain times...no matter who asked them. Not because they were bad questions, just because I recognized that under the circumstances at the time I had no answer that would be useful to town. Like right now who I might think the wolves are really makes not a lick of difference to the town, so if you ask I won't answer. That's not avoiding you, it's just reducing clutter.

with all due respect, screw you hippie! I don't WANT to dig through a billion kvetching posts to find the meat on the bone lol
But yeah, you're on my list of people I need to solidify one way or the other. for whatever that's worth anyways

[tedxtr]

i feel like wilgy has been openly howling for the past 5 dayphases

[hollowkatt]

Hello everyone. I have power again. What did I miss?

Are we advocating for early claims again?

That's literally never been a good thing.

Hallelujah I can speak.

Thanks for figuring out my situation, y’all. I have been busy and did not keep up very well, so I just sheeded nutella at the end of the day.

I will remain somewhat busy for this phase. I have two wolves to analyze for associative reads. I intend to make that my primary focus, since I will likely be unable to catch myself up this phase, so I feel like this is the most effective use of my time right now. I will certainly be here to answer any questions that you all have for me.

yeet sloonei

friendos: I present to you the entirity of Wiggly D3..

To my defense I was busy being frozen.

ok, so talk to me about the sloonei eod3 vote if you can. Why did you make it and what were you thinking/buying into at the time?

Wasn't around. Still felt Sloonei was bad from d1 and d2. Hadn't had time to reinvest myself in the game. Dropped a vote on the person I thought was bad.

I feel like timestamps make you wrong, but I don't have that data in front of me at the moment.
I'll get back to you

[Made]

Ok ok ok ok, my brain is on now...if Ted can kill people, and he kills within the PoE, he's an asset to town. @tedxtr can you do that?

[tedxtr]

also sup, just got out of shower and it’s 12 AM, ama

[Syn]

Ok ok ok ok, my brain is on now...if Ted can kill people, and he kills within the PoE, he's an asset to town. @tedxtr can you do that?

rofl

you might want to read the game

[Syn]

yeah i think ted targeting made tonight is a good call

let's do it

[DrWilgy]

i feel like wilgy has been openly howling for the past 5 dayphases

Yeh dood Sloonei was my teammate.

[tedxtr]

Ok ok ok ok, my brain is on now...if Ted can kill people, and he kills within the PoE, he's an asset to town. @tedxtr can you do that?

i can’t, but we can act like i can if it gets me to live

your call

(i can get a kill on a role that’s likely mafia, has an offchance of being 3p)

[Syn]

@tedxtr

If you target who you need to, does that trigger the gun that same night, or do you have to wait another phase?

[tedxtr]

i feel like wilgy has been openly howling for the past 5 dayphases

Yeh dood Sloonei was my teammate.

idk what the sloonei thing is but i’m just gonna say it doesn’t matter at all, since your other posts are howlers

[tedxtr]

@tedxtr

If you target who you need to, does that trigger the gun that same night, or do you have to wait another phase?

i have to wait another phase

[Syn]

ok then radishes should reflect made tonight too

[Syn]

or we can chop radishes and i can use the reflect :- ) :winky face:

[Timsup2nothin]

So we let Ted continue scanning for his target and we try to kill a wolf...ez pz

[tedxtr]

i have a switch thingy from alison, i could use it on made

although if we’re wrong then I believe i’m donezo

but at this point of the game, mafia would probably have to place their kp on someone that half the thread thinks they’re mafia / some evil 3p.

see, you guise have so many uses for me, i may even be your most valuable asset aorn

[tedxtr]

why are people moving off wilgy? just stay on him imo

he claimed to have been a self-clearing role in the case of a very simple scenario occurring and hasn’t claimed a role related thing since the thread has opened