Magic the Gathering Mafia - Game Over - Mafia has won!

[Marmot]

So if I am right zero mafia have votes on them atm. Which also makes sense.

Tell me it ain't so.

[Enrique]

I’m gonna [VOTE: falcon] aubergine btw.

Quick points before I settle down somehwere:
* Dunya brought up his vig claim. Where I’m at in my catch up he only brought it up as a joke (“I’ll kill you!” posts are classic ultraviolence-era Enrique-core), but I see that more recently he talked about damaging someone. I’m completely unconvinced.
* I talked about him being chaotic earlier. There was an entire page early on that was just him and Kyle discussing whether Kyle’s hotter than dunya. Then he decided Kyle wasn’t his friend for being too silly. It’s fairly minor but leaves a bad taste.
* I don’t want to lynch Ted or Urist. Epignosis I don’t really have an opinion on (I mostly remember two posts by him - one seemed really civ, it was maybe his first one, pointing out the silliness of falcon town-reading LC for reading the rules). If anyone I think JPIC is the better non-falcon option but his posts are pretty much nothing.
* Ted-three-lands-gate is a fake scandal (ik some of my town reads also pushed it but I still don’t like it).
* Is generally just all over the place. Some people he distrusts too easily, some he trusts for no apparent reason. His thought process is very hard for me to follow and I don’t think it’s organic.
* Super early on I thought he was really pushing for Jack and Bolas (separately) to each reveal their role. I actually have this as two separate notes and just noticed the connection. As far as I can tell he hasn’t been doing more of this since neither of them elaborated and faded into the background.

I don't remember that, but I got similar vibes in this post.

Epi, why would you give Guillo 6 mana? Was there a post he made that led you to believe he needed mana?

Giving some random player 6 mana in the first night is actually really funny but I guess it served its purpose (if he doesn't get lynched). But lol I see what you mean, maybe.

[MacDougall]

Jack, Kyle, HK, Urist would be my top town.

Guillo, Wilgy town lean.

Ted, Marmot, Dunya not out of their range.

112 and LC are quite scummy.

[Marmot]

Kyle's dead Mac...

[MacDougall]

Oh Kyle died. Yeah ok.

[hollowkatt]

I dunno what you want from me. I think his play D1 with regards to mana generation is wolfy, and I think it's weird how he's not trying to solve all that hard today while being on the hot seat when he said he'd do good work if he lived through D1. He hasn't been exactly slanking, but like when I'm town and on the hot seat like that I tend to go into overdrive and just churn out posts, reads, and pushes and really get down in the trenches with the people I wolf read.

so i'm a wolf because i am not playing like you would as a town in this situation

No, you're a wolf b/c you're not doing the thing you said you'd do if we didn't chop you D1.

i did do stuff

i rarely solve d1 much or push anything, i like to see things play out

if you want more reads out of me it's not gonna happen until later on, since i was forced to defend myself 90% of the time

1am here but since i was kept alive, i’ll try to put in more work

wanted to say that

Please tell me the "more work" you've put in today to find a wolf and bag it. Quotes would be nice. I'll wait.

[MacDougall]

I just went through the ISO list. I'm used to it only being alive players.

[tedxtr]

i've made reads on people br0

[Marmot]

I guess it takes Mac to push my Epi read for others to take notice

He is supposed to be a mafia god afterall.

Are you saying you agree with the read?

I think Epi's town, and Mac not paying attention doesn't change that.

[MacDougall]

Marmot i want to lean a lil more town than Dunya and Ted but he's the devil.

[falcon45ca]

I’m gonna [VOTE: falcon] aubergine btw.

Quick points before I settle down somehwere:
* Dunya brought up his vig claim. Where I’m at in my catch up he only brought it up as a joke (“I’ll kill you!” posts are classic ultraviolence-era Enrique-core), but I see that more recently he talked about damaging someone. I’m completely unconvinced.
* I talked about him being chaotic earlier. There was an entire page early on that was just him and Kyle discussing whether Kyle’s hotter than dunya. Then he decided Kyle wasn’t his friend for being too silly. It’s fairly minor but leaves a bad taste.
* I don’t want to lynch Ted or Urist. Epignosis I don’t really have an opinion on (I mostly remember two posts by him - one seemed really civ, it was maybe his first one, pointing out the silliness of falcon town-reading LC for reading the rules). If anyone I think JPIC is the better non-falcon option but his posts are pretty much nothing.
* Ted-three-lands-gate is a fake scandal (ik some of my town reads also pushed it but I still don’t like it).
* Is generally just all over the place. Some people he distrusts too easily, some he trusts for no apparent reason. His thought process is very hard for me to follow and I don’t think it’s organic.
* Super early on I thought he was really pushing for Jack and Bolas (separately) to each reveal their role. I actually have this as two separate notes and just noticed the connection. As far as I can tell he hasn’t been doing more of this since neither of them elaborated and faded into the background.

Someone mentioned how scum bring up long past events into the present thread state as a way to muddy the waters I believe?


I give you, Enrique

[MacDougall]

I guess it takes Mac to push my Epi read for others to take notice

He is supposed to be a mafia god afterall.

Are you saying you agree with the read?

I think Epi's town, and Mac not paying attention doesn't change that.

Weird post considering I am trying. I can go back to giving zero fucks if you'd prefer

[tedxtr]

Ted, Marmot, Dunya not out of their range.

i'm actually kinda curious as to what you think is my villa range and what my wolf range is, or if there is any difference for that matter

like what do you look for to discern

[MacDougall]

I’m gonna [VOTE: falcon] aubergine btw.

Quick points before I settle down somehwere:
* Dunya brought up his vig claim. Where I’m at in my catch up he only brought it up as a joke (“I’ll kill you!” posts are classic ultraviolence-era Enrique-core), but I see that more recently he talked about damaging someone. I’m completely unconvinced.
* I talked about him being chaotic earlier. There was an entire page early on that was just him and Kyle discussing whether Kyle’s hotter than dunya. Then he decided Kyle wasn’t his friend for being too silly. It’s fairly minor but leaves a bad taste.
* I don’t want to lynch Ted or Urist. Epignosis I don’t really have an opinion on (I mostly remember two posts by him - one seemed really civ, it was maybe his first one, pointing out the silliness of falcon town-reading LC for reading the rules). If anyone I think JPIC is the better non-falcon option but his posts are pretty much nothing.
* Ted-three-lands-gate is a fake scandal (ik some of my town reads also pushed it but I still don’t like it).
* Is generally just all over the place. Some people he distrusts too easily, some he trusts for no apparent reason. His thought process is very hard for me to follow and I don’t think it’s organic.
* Super early on I thought he was really pushing for Jack and Bolas (separately) to each reveal their role. I actually have this as two separate notes and just noticed the connection. As far as I can tell he hasn’t been doing more of this since neither of them elaborated and faded into the background.

Someone mentioned how scum bring up long past events into the present thread state as a way to muddy the waters I believe?


I give you, Enrique

I agree. Its the second time hes done it too.

[Marmot]

Marmot i want to lean a lil more town than Dunya and Ted but he's the devil.

[MacDougall]

Ted, Marmot, Dunya not out of their range.

i'm actually kinda curious as to what you think is my villa range and what my wolf range is, or if there is any difference for that matter

like what do you look for to discern

No discernible difference.

[Enrique]

I’m gonna [VOTE: falcon] aubergine btw.

Quick points before I settle down somehwere:
* Dunya brought up his vig claim. Where I’m at in my catch up he only brought it up as a joke (“I’ll kill you!” posts are classic ultraviolence-era Enrique-core), but I see that more recently he talked about damaging someone. I’m completely unconvinced.
* I talked about him being chaotic earlier. There was an entire page early on that was just him and Kyle discussing whether Kyle’s hotter than dunya. Then he decided Kyle wasn’t his friend for being too silly. It’s fairly minor but leaves a bad taste.
* I don’t want to lynch Ted or Urist. Epignosis I don’t really have an opinion on (I mostly remember two posts by him - one seemed really civ, it was maybe his first one, pointing out the silliness of falcon town-reading LC for reading the rules). If anyone I think JPIC is the better non-falcon option but his posts are pretty much nothing.
* Ted-three-lands-gate is a fake scandal (ik some of my town reads also pushed it but I still don’t like it).
* Is generally just all over the place. Some people he distrusts too easily, some he trusts for no apparent reason. His thought process is very hard for me to follow and I don’t think it’s organic.
* Super early on I thought he was really pushing for Jack and Bolas (separately) to each reveal their role. I actually have this as two separate notes and just noticed the connection. As far as I can tell he hasn’t been doing more of this since neither of them elaborated and faded into the background.

Someone mentioned how scum bring up long past events into the present thread state as a way to muddy the waters I believe?


I give you, Enrique

You believe? You already tried to make a thing out of me reading the thread lol.

[tedxtr]

Ted, Marmot, Dunya not out of their range.

i'm actually kinda curious as to what you think is my villa range and what my wolf range is, or if there is any difference for that matter

like what do you look for to discern

No discernible difference.

that's all i needed to hear, do you just go for a gut read usually? lol

[Marmot]

I guess it takes Mac to push my Epi read for others to take notice

He is supposed to be a mafia god afterall.

Are you saying you agree with the read?

I think Epi's town, and Mac not paying attention doesn't change that.

Weird post considering I am trying. I can go back to giving zero fucks if you'd prefer

I know you're trying, there's just a lot going on.

[hollowkatt]

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

trying this...

bad vote is bad, stahp doing that.

[MacDougall]

Ted, Marmot, Dunya not out of their range.

i'm actually kinda curious as to what you think is my villa range and what my wolf range is, or if there is any difference for that matter

like what do you look for to discern

No discernible difference.

that's all i needed to hear, do you just go for a gut read usually? lol

I just use my general standards when reading you. It works out ok. I don't have meta to apply to you.

[112]

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

trying this...

bad vote is bad, stahp doing that.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

[Marmot]

Jack, Kyle, HK, Urist would be my top town.

Guillo, Wilgy town lean.

Ted, Marmot, Dunya not out of their range.

112 and LC are quite scummy.

I have LC and Urist flip-flopped, but this is agreeable.


What about JPIC?

[MacDougall]

By my calculations I am now the only person voting for mafia. Fun.

[MacDougall]

Jack, Kyle, HK, Urist would be my top town.

Guillo, Wilgy town lean.

Ted, Marmot, Dunya not out of their range.

112 and LC are quite scummy.

I have LC and Urist flip-flopped, but this is agreeable.


What about JPIC?

That is quite the disagreement to just brush over. Why x 2?

JPIC could go either way. I don't think chopping him today is the play. Need more into. Need a better chop. If he dies today its likely because he's town and mafia view him as a mischop.

[hollowkatt]

By my calculations I am now the only person voting for mafia. Fun.

Why did you drop your epi case almost as soon as you'd written it? and why is Ted town?

[MacDougall]

By my calculations I am now the only person voting for mafia. Fun.

Why did you drop your epi case almost as soon as you'd written it? and why is Ted town?

Bruh.

If I was mafia do you really think I would have?

Because he made a valid point is why.

And I don't have Ted as town.

[Marmot]

That is quite the disagreement to just brush over. Why x 2?

JPIC could go either way. I don't think chopping him today is the play. Need more into. Need a better chop. If he dies today its likely because he's town and mafia view him as a mischop.

I meant otherwise agreeable.

Mainly vibes for LC. Mainly some thing Urist did Day 1 that I didn't like but am forgetting about now.


Regardless, I'm happy to yeet 112.

[Guillotine]

BANKAI!

[VOTE: FALCON] aubergine

[hollowkatt]

By my calculations I am now the only person voting for mafia. Fun.

Why did you drop your epi case almost as soon as you'd written it? and why is Ted town?

Bruh.

If I was mafia do you really think I would have?

Because he made a valid point is why.

And I don't have Ted as town.

You said "I am now the only person voting for mafia" yes? I am voting for Ted. Therefore it follows you think Ted is town.
What did Epi say to you to make you drop the case and why did it make you drop it?

[Marmot]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

[Guillotine]

epi is sus for trying to pocket me, whipsering sweet nothings into my ear like i won't notice. i see you, hoolignan.

@Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?

basically nothing has changed. the fact that he's done absolutely nothing with his read reinforces that it's something he doesn't truly believe in. he hasn't followed up on it at all nor has he tried to convince any other people of it's validity, nor has he asked any follow up questions or even voted for me as he would if it was meant as a townie prod.

Marmot, Tedxtr, and Hollowkatt, confirmed mafia

take it to the bank boys

[Marmot]

Noooooo Guillooooooo, I'm town

[112]

why would anybody want to chop me :/

[Marmot]

cuz you a mississippi queen

[MacDougall]

If you believe I am mafia, explain this exchange:

You know you got six mana.

How am I lying?

Is anyone going to claim that they gave you mana and I didn't give you six?

If I am lying, why would I do that?

I claimed to have received 6 mana ages ago, i assume it came from two different people.

But ok. Besides red mana, what other color did you send me?

Blue.

Im red and black. Your gesture is appreciated but it was useless and put me in danger for PtF. Don't do it again.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

You were never in danger of PtF. That's why I sent it to you.

But I understand your concern.

You are a civilian henceforth.

My explanation is lame.

[MacDougall]

I believe the Mafia are 112 Dunya and LC but Ted can be mafia.

[falcon45ca]

If you believe I am mafia, explain this exchange:

You know you got six mana.

How am I lying?

Is anyone going to claim that they gave you mana and I didn't give you six?

If I am lying, why would I do that?

I claimed to have received 6 mana ages ago, i assume it came from two different people.

But ok. Besides red mana, what other color did you send me?

Blue.

Im red and black. Your gesture is appreciated but it was useless and put me in danger for PtF. Don't do it again.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

You were never in danger of PtF. That's why I sent it to you.

But I understand your concern.

You are a civilian henceforth.

My explanation is lame.

What if both Epi & Guillo are scum? Do we have any proof outside of their word that any of this happened? No.

[112]

If you believe I am mafia, explain this exchange:

I claimed to have received 6 mana ages ago, i assume it came from two different people.

But ok. Besides red mana, what other color did you send me?

Blue.

Im red and black. Your gesture is appreciated but it was useless and put me in danger for PtF. Don't do it again.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

You were never in danger of PtF. That's why I sent it to you.

But I understand your concern.

You are a civilian henceforth.

My explanation is lame.

What if both Epi & Guillo are scum? Do we have any proof outside of their word that any of this happened? No.

guillo's definitely town

[Marmot]

Did Jack just drop a vote on Epi and dip?

[Marmot]

Did Jack just drop a vote on Epi and dip?

And I'm not talking bean dip either.

[falcon45ca]

If you believe I am mafia, explain this exchange:

Blue.

Im red and black. Your gesture is appreciated but it was useless and put me in danger for PtF. Don't do it again.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

You were never in danger of PtF. That's why I sent it to you.

But I understand your concern.

You are a civilian henceforth.

My explanation is lame.

What if both Epi & Guillo are scum? Do we have any proof outside of their word that any of this happened? No.

guillo's definitely town

I'm town. The only way I definitely know that there are other townies is that the game isn't over.


Beyond myself, I'm out of definites.

[Marmot]

People with no votes (not counting mine) that I don’t have a reason to townread: Wilgy, Dunya (arguable), Enrique, Falcon

People with votes that I do have a reason to townread: Marmot, Epi, Urist, JPic (arguable), Mac (arguable)

People with votes I don’t have a reason to townread: Ted

I’m sure I left somebody out but I loathe the current wagon formation.

Actually, yeah, that shit does look pretty pockety.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Does Jack flip this easily on reads?

[112]

If you believe I am mafia, explain this exchange:

Im red and black. Your gesture is appreciated but it was useless and put me in danger for PtF. Don't do it again.

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

You were never in danger of PtF. That's why I sent it to you.

But I understand your concern.

You are a civilian henceforth.

My explanation is lame.

What if both Epi & Guillo are scum? Do we have any proof outside of their word that any of this happened? No.

guillo's definitely town

I'm town. The only way I definitely know that there are other townies is that the game isn't over.


Beyond myself, I'm out of definites.

Well then you are lost

[MacDougall]

Jack is obvious town

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[hollowkatt]

why would anybody want to chop me :/

I'm going to take a wild guess and say: you got a mafia role PM and it shows.

[Marmot]

Jack is obvious town

I mean I think so too, but he jumped on your case pretty quick and hasn't changed.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Can I help you?