Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[MartinGG99]

At the last minute.

I don't think they were tied after checking.

But whatever. I'm not going to fight on who voted when and when their vote tags were put on the thread.

Or maybe my headache is being too much of a problem right now.

[Long Con]

At the last minute.

I don't think they were tied after checking.

But whatever. I'm not going to fight on who voted when and when their vote tags were put on the thread.

Or maybe my headache is being too much of a problem right now.

I'm sorry about your headache, but I know for a fact that after I voted Joseph, he had 5 votes and the next highest was four. That is a fact. That is my direct experience. I didn't mean to be that guy with that crucial vote, but I was. Go ahead and chop me. It won't help you solve the game much, but it will prove I'm telling the truth about this and that's enough for me. Good night.

[MartinGG99]

Does anybody here feel strongly about Kylemii btw?

I don't, but I think he's the kind of player that's hard for me to read given that I nearly scum-read him if it weren't for mech info in the GoC.

[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

wait sorry

[VOTE: made] aubergine

no actually that's fine

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

He keeps on doing this sort of thing recently in his ISO. Or at least twice.

[Alison]

My opinion is that LC is town

[MartinGG99]

At the last minute.

I don't think they were tied after checking.

But whatever. I'm not going to fight on who voted when and when their vote tags were put on the thread.

Or maybe my headache is being too much of a problem right now.

I'm sorry about your headache, but I know for a fact that after I voted Joseph, he had 5 votes and the next highest was four. That is a fact. That is my direct experience. I didn't mean to be that guy with that crucial vote, but I was. Go ahead and chop me. It won't help you solve the game much, but it will prove I'm telling the truth about this and that's enough for me. Good night.

Look I'm not even voting you yet.

I've said strong statements earlier to signify that I'm strongly debating this issue.

[MartinGG99]

My opinion is that LC is town

Yeah GTH I think I sort of rushed to that "I didn't mean to be that guy with that crucial vote, but I was. Go ahead and chop me. It won't help you solve the game much, but it will prove I'm telling the truth about this and that's enough for me."

in past town games of mine

[MartinGG99]

Plus the fact that he's arguing to me over something quite dumb about vote placement reminds me of when I argued with Nanook about votes in Grasslands.

[MartinGG99]

Like this kinda reeks of dumb tvt (presuming dear reader believes I'm town).

[Long Con]

What was the evidence that the Enclave was sure that Mac was Vault City and not some villager getting railroaded?

[MartinGG99]

Honestly atm I'm between chopping Kylemii or Jack. Jack is multigaming and apparently has 3 games going on (IDK when they happened), but he seemed very active earlier on. Now it just seems like coasting.

Kyle I can't really read well given my limited experience but I really don't see anything town from him.

[MartinGG99]

Like after shortly reviewing all my reads and my suspects atm I feel like either of these have to go.

The fact that they're not brought up often kinda bothers me.

[Marmot]

Martin led the charge because of the mac/epi stuff

Led the charge on what?

[MartinGG99]

What was the evidence that the Enclave was sure that Mac was Vault City and not some villager getting railroaded?

There isn't any, or at least if there is, it isn't really strong enough to be relied upon imo. Only point is that Communications Officer has unlimited shots, effectively until they land a BTSC.

[MartinGG99]

Martin led the charge because of the mac/epi stuff

Led the charge on what?

Unless "Mac" is a "what" then I presume you don't realize I was the first to vote (iirc) and push for Mac on D4?

[Marmot]

Martin led the charge because of the mac/epi stuff

Led the charge on what?

Unless "Mac" is a "what" then I presume you don't realize I was the first to vote (iirc) and push for Mac on D4?

I've had a beer and it took me a second to figure out what Alison was talking about there.

[MartinGG99]

Re-read Jack's progression and the context of some of his reads for D4 (including the fact that he had a whole reads-wall on SoD4) maybe I'm judging him a bit too harshly. I kinda wonder what made me (on his reads) jump from an "Idk" to a "Projecting town" thing by mid D2, @Jackofhearts2005 do you remember why?

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

For now.

[MartinGG99]

thing by late D4

ebwop

[MartinGG99]

I'll be back later. It's obvious my sleep and headache is starting to get to me.

[Kylemii]

Honestly atm I'm between chopping Kylemii or Jack. Jack is multigaming and apparently has 3 games going on (IDK when they happened), but he seemed very active earlier on. Now it just seems like coasting.

Kyle I can't really read well given my limited experience but I really don't see anything town from him.

tbh i don't really blame you. i replaced into this game while also multigaming and without really knowing it was going to be complicated or big and then just sorta.... neglected to read like 90% of posts. i've been up until this point mainly just sheeping marmot, and only now that i'm able to read the thread in real time, i'm on like... not even fully aware of the game state, faction numbers etc.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I wonder if Mac was actually signalling

[TonyStarkPrime]

But they’d both limited role cop as multiple so idk

[TonyStarkPrime]

The fact that martin’s still alive feels pretty striking :P

[TonyStarkPrime]

I dunno if I’m ever going to convince Martin that the guy he’s been town-shielding all game is still clearly not town but I offer the humble suggestion that he consider the possibility

[TonyStarkPrime]

if the slaver outs themselves today i will lock my vote on chopchop until he is dead, i guarantee it

Slaver pls

[Marmot]

Honestly atm I'm between chopping Kylemii or Jack. Jack is multigaming and apparently has 3 games going on (IDK when they happened), but he seemed very active earlier on. Now it just seems like coasting.

Kyle I can't really read well given my limited experience but I really don't see anything town from him.

tbh i don't really blame you. i replaced into this game while also multigaming and without really knowing it was going to be complicated or big and then just sorta.... neglected to read like 90% of posts. i've been up until this point mainly just sheeping marmot, and only now that i'm able to read the thread in real time, i'm on like... not even fully aware of the game state, faction numbers etc.

Sheeping me. That was your first mistake

[Kylemii]

i don't make mistakes

[Kylemii]

i've never made a mistake before, i'm not even sure i'm spelling the word right

[Gavial]

Mac wouldn't check + shoot. If Mac checked me he'd claim a red check on me in thread because of the vest. If Mac blind shot me to test my claim he'd do it on N2 after I claimed Elridge, not N3.

Why would he claim a “Red” when a Slaver is “Slaver” and you can only be Slaver or Town.

I already went over this Alison, if he claimed a Slaver check on you it will resort to the exact same situation as Falcon.
End of Story.

Red check is slang for "I have evidence that Alison isn't town".

If Mac thought I was slaver and his plan was to shoot me to death over two nights (one to break vest, one to make the actual kill) he would start N2, the night after the Falcon stuff. The missing kill would therefore be on N2 and not N3.

If Mac thought I was slaver and his plan was to get me exed by town he'd have outed a check of me as multiple in thread.

Neither things happened.

You're talking about how falcon was ignored but neglecting that falcon was widely distrusted for having a role claim that made no sense and his flipped faction has no reason to kill slaver ad every reason to kill new reno

And why exactly would he hard claim scum and claim Multiple on you just to yeet his rival so he could be yeeted after?

No reason to kill Slaver? I’d have to double check but I’m pretty sure they are against Slaver as well.

Also again, if you think Mac shot Sloon, where’s the missing Enclave kill?

He wouldnt claim scum hed aim town rolecop. Falcon was JJJ which was not anti slaver but was anti new reno. So people questioned why he seemed to care so much about slaver. I'm pretty sure he was just trying to get me killed because I'm new reno.

reiterating, missing enclave kill could have gone into actual slaver or doctored. Or the missing enclave kill was KZA and syn was enclave.

How can you be “pretty sure” when if your actual new Reno it would be a definite.
Explain to me what the “pretty sure” is referring to.

[Marmot]

I doooooo

[TonyStarkPrime]

I didn’t say this but I kinda wanna lock town Kyle for admitting he’s sheeping marmot

[Gavial]

Also why are you assuming Sloon was an enclave kill again

Where do you think the Enclave kill went?

I don't know if sloon was VC or enclave kill because both factions had a reason to kill him.

If your theory that syn is frank horrigan is correct then kza was the enclave kill and sloon was shot by VC.

The missing kill could also have easily gone into a doctor protected target, or, gasp! The actual slaver.

Doctor protected target huh.
You stop a kill with your Slaver abilities?
Maybe Vault City yourself, protected Mac’s prime target to kill.

Why would i protect people if im slaver

It is mech impossible for me to be VC, host has confirmed that mac was the last VC

In what way did I say you were VC?
Even if you misunderstood, how would VC have a self heal?
Like that’s the only mis Understandment that can be there.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Lost the poker tournament tonight btw. So it goes. 2nd/15

[Marmot]

i've never made a mistake before, i'm not even sure i'm spelling the word right

you should subscribe to the newsletter, it's full of misinformations and tippos.

[Gavial]

My opinion is that LC is town

Your vote says otherwise.

[Gavial]

What was the evidence that the Enclave was sure that Mac was Vault City and not some villager getting railroaded?

I agree.
I think you and Tony thought he was Town

[Gavial]

I know I thought he was town.
That’s why I didn’t vote them!

[Syn]

[VOTE: ChopChop] aubergine

chop chopchop

feels organic

[Gavial]

Honestly atm I'm between chopping Kylemii or Jack. Jack is multigaming and apparently has 3 games going on (IDK when they happened), but he seemed very active earlier on. Now it just seems like coasting.

Kyle I can't really read well given my limited experience but I really don't see anything town from him.

Yeah Jack’s been coasting with like little to no attention towards them lol.

As for Kyle, he was the first to vote with me on Tony but he did switch votes quite early.

I could see myself voting Kyle as there is a good chance he’s scum buddies with Tony.
Would like to hear Jack’s response to my pinged post on him first though.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: ChopChop] aubergine

chop chopchop

feels organic

Your party leader has died of Dysentery.

[Gavial]

[VOTE: ChopChop] aubergine

chop chopchop

feels organic

I’m also pretty crunchy!

[Gavial]

The fact that martin’s still alive feels pretty striking :P

I mean it’s only been one day since Mac’s yeet.

[Gavial]

I wanna say that this post can never be S/T meaning Martin is TMI’ed Town by Tony buuuuuuut.
IDK.

[Gavial]

Never be S/S but probably is S/T.

[Syn]

[VOTE: ChopChop] aubergine

chop chopchop

feels organic

Your party leader has died of Dysentery.

have you heard the fable of the scorpion and the marmot

[Gavial]

I dunno if I’m ever going to convince Martin that the guy he’s been town-shielding all game is still clearly not town but I offer the humble suggestion that he consider the possibility

If your talking about me you should look at yourself in the mirror.

[Gavial]

if the slaver outs themselves today i will lock my vote on chopchop until he is dead, i guarantee it

Slaver pls

@Urist
What if Alison outs as Slaver?

[Marmot]

[VOTE: ChopChop] aubergine

chop chopchop

feels organic

Your party leader has died of Dysentery.

have you heard the fable of the scorpion and the marmot

No, I generally don't come across scorpions.

[Gavial]

I swear if you vote me instead of Tony at that point your just throwing.

[Gavial]

I didn’t say this but I kinda wanna lock town Kyle for admitting he’s sheeping marmot

Alison admits to be sheeping Martin, it ain’t AI.

But it does make me want to vote Kyle just a bit more because this post makes me believe Kyle is your buddy.

[Kylemii]

wait tony's alive dude