Modern Family Hydra Mafia [GAME END]

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

you're capped btw tspic

also literally almost everyone townreads toopy and binoo anyways and if you're a wolf in that position then bussing is literally anti-win con

We managed to get our 20 posts back so we can go up to 505.

[Julinook]

My solve at the moment is basically this: Mana/Julinook/T&T

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Voters: Akemi Hazelnut, Mana, trans rights, TwoAndThrough

T&T and Mana vote to save T&T. TR is probably town from sheer WIM. I am less sure on Alison/Nut, but I still lean town. I actually think BT is town (look forward to being accused of partners) because I have T&T as a wolf and as they were the counter wagon it's more likely that they were town than a wolf.

Mana
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Voters: Julinook, TonyStarkPlaysItCool, Poop Explosions

We know we're town, and I'm 95% sure C4/Mac are probably town. I townread C4 significantly more than Mac in that slot. T&B also probably town because of the Tim impersonation and obsession with hammer. Julinook is a wolf purely because of the process of elimination, and that they also voted off wagon so as not to try and make the obvious save of T&T. We have no evidence that Mana's ability exists and it conveniently fails the first night which is backed up by Julinook.

Yeah I pushed tat all day just so I could try to awkwardly save them at eod instead of finishing the job

[Julinook]

My solve at the moment is basically this: Mana/Julinook/T&T

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Voters: Akemi Hazelnut, Mana, trans rights, TwoAndThrough

T&T and Mana vote to save T&T. TR is probably town from sheer WIM. I am less sure on Alison/Nut, but I still lean town. I actually think BT is town (look forward to being accused of partners) because I have T&T as a wolf and as they were the counter wagon it's more likely that they were town than a wolf.

Mana
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Voters: Julinook, TonyStarkPlaysItCool, Poop Explosions

We know we're town, and I'm 95% sure C4/Mac are probably town. I townread C4 significantly more than Mac in that slot. T&B also probably town because of the Tim impersonation and obsession with hammer. Julinook is a wolf purely because of the process of elimination, and that they also voted off wagon so as not to try and make the obvious save of T&T. We have no evidence that Mana's ability exists and it conveniently fails the first night which is backed up by Julinook.

Yeah I pushed tat all day just so I could try to awkwardly save them at eod instead of finishing the job

And you think I do this to try and push the third partner over instead of the one I'd been pushing all day?

Lolok

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

It's process of elimination though, and I have already said that I feel less confident that you're a hit. I want to kill Mana over you anyway.

I know we're blatantly villagers when we town told 400 posts ago.

[Julinook]

It's process of elimination though, and I have already said that I feel less confident that you're a hit. I want to kill Mana over you anyway.

I know we're blatantly villagers when we town told 400 posts ago.

I mean if tat and mana are both mafia im basically clear, lol, im not gonna hard bus both my partners d1 if those partners are tim/hk and made/Dana and idk how you think that could conceivably be a real world

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

It's process of elimination though, and I have already said that I feel less confident that you're a hit. I want to kill Mana over you anyway.

I know we're blatantly villagers when we town told 400 posts ago.

I mean if tat and mana are both mafia im basically clear, lol, im not gonna hard bus both my partners d1 if those partners are tim/hk and made/Dana and idk how you think that could conceivably be a real world

Tbh I didn't actually look into ISO's, just the vote counts at EOD1 but that's what it led me to. If T&T/mana are wolves who is the other partner?

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Again, it's PoE because I was villa reading mostly everyone else. If I'm wrong on someone it's AK.

[Julinook]

It's process of elimination though, and I have already said that I feel less confident that you're a hit. I want to kill Mana over you anyway.

I know we're blatantly villagers when we town told 400 posts ago.

I mean if tat and mana are both mafia im basically clear, lol, im not gonna hard bus both my partners d1 if those partners are tim/hk and made/Dana and idk how you think that could conceivably be a real world

Tbh I didn't actually look into ISO's, just the vote counts at EOD1 but that's what it led me to. If T&T/mana are wolves who is the other partner?

Idk, I haven't been world building in anything approaching a serious manner. Off hand probably someone on the poop wagon, but idk who that is without looking

[Julinook]

Again, it's PoE because I was villa reading mostly everyone else. If I'm wrong on someone it's AK.

I mean, sure, but id say maybe you need to reassess that poe if your conclusion is that the scumteam is me/mana/tat, and not just cause its me, I think there are objective reasons to say that isn't the team without having the knowledge of me being town that I do

[Julinook]

It's process of elimination though, and I have already said that I feel less confident that you're a hit. I want to kill Mana over you anyway.

I know we're blatantly villagers when we town told 400 posts ago.

I mean if tat and mana are both mafia im basically clear, lol, im not gonna hard bus both my partners d1 if those partners are tim/hk and made/Dana and idk how you think that could conceivably be a real world

Tbh I didn't actually look into ISO's, just the vote counts at EOD1 but that's what it led me to. If T&T/mana are wolves who is the other partner?

Idk, I haven't been world building in anything approaching a serious manner. Off hand probably someone on the poop wagon, but idk who that is without looking

*BT wagon. Idk why I thought poop for a minute

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

It's process of elimination though, and I have already said that I feel less confident that you're a hit. I want to kill Mana over you anyway.

I know we're blatantly villagers when we town told 400 posts ago.

I mean if tat and mana are both mafia im basically clear, lol, im not gonna hard bus both my partners d1 if those partners are tim/hk and made/Dana and idk how you think that could conceivably be a real world

Tbh I didn't actually look into ISO's, just the vote counts at EOD1 but that's what it led me to. If T&T/mana are wolves who is the other partner?

Idk, I haven't been world building in anything approaching a serious manner. Off hand probably someone on the poop wagon, but idk who that is without looking

*BT wagon. Idk why I thought poop for a minute

Assuming there are three wolves and T&T was a wolf, how likely is it that they all voted for the same person? I'm kinda assuming that at least one of them went offwagon to blatantly not save their teammate. TR again is probably town from sheer WIM. AK does make me wonder.

[trans rights]

wim is nai for me for the record

and yeah i doubt that if mana is a wolf the last is akemi

~sylveon

[Akemi Hazelnut]

we're spewed not wolves with all of TAT, Mana, TSPIC and BT and it's practically guaranteed there's multiple wolves in there lmao

[Julinook]

BT wagon was AH, TR, mana, tat

So in a mana tat world

Did they all pile on to save tat?

If so id say probably TR over ah, I do think Alison preferring to carry kills is a thing, and I don't think she'd agree to pile on after the way Simpsons went (short version, tim and Alison led scum team piled on to a vote, it did not work out in the long run and they lost), plus commuter seems like the scummiest of the protection adjacent claims


Would also say decent chance of mana having a mafia on them (haven't looked at that wagon yet ill it in a bit), I think keeping tim/hk alive probably has more utility in a vacuum, especially if they were in fact self janitor (not putting much stock in guessing that tho)

[Julinook]

It's process of elimination though, and I have already said that I feel less confident that you're a hit. I want to kill Mana over you anyway.

I know we're blatantly villagers when we town told 400 posts ago.

I mean if tat and mana are both mafia im basically clear, lol, im not gonna hard bus both my partners d1 if those partners are tim/hk and made/Dana and idk how you think that could conceivably be a real world

Tbh I didn't actually look into ISO's, just the vote counts at EOD1 but that's what it led me to. If T&T/mana are wolves who is the other partner?

Idk, I haven't been world building in anything approaching a serious manner. Off hand probably someone on the poop wagon, but idk who that is without looking

*BT wagon. Idk why I thought poop for a minute

Assuming there are three wolves and T&T was a wolf, how likely is it that they all voted for the same person? I'm kinda assuming that at least one of them went offwagon to blatantly not save their teammate. TR again is probably town from sheer WIM. AK does make me wonder.

Its a bit dampened by Alison not being around for eod, but u suspect if they were mafia she would've left clear instructions not to pile on

Its a bit wifomy admittedly but

I think its probably a thing

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

we're spewed not wolves with all of TAT, Mana, TSPIC and BT and it's practically guaranteed there's multiple wolves in there lmao

Cool, you're voting for a villager right now tho.

[trans rights]

i never tried to save two and through... i even tried to vote them at the very end but i was too late.

[Julinook]

i never tried to save two and through... i even tried to vote them at the very end but i was too late.

Who is this addressed to

[trans rights]

i never tried to save two and through... i even tried to vote them at the very end but i was too late.

Who is this addressed to

this is addressed to the idea that i tried to save two and through

if you read my d1 this was clearly never my intention

[Akemi Hazelnut]

TSPIC's solve kinda makes sense if he's town actually

like

rn I'm at 2 in tspic/mana/BT, and idt mana/BT are together so it's probably one of those two + TSPIC

but if TSPIC is town then one of our townreads is wrong and julinooks as the scum rolestopper blocking us makes the most sense

I think TR/Poop/Toopy are hard clear so

[Akemi Hazelnut]

mmmm I'm a little discomforted by the way TSPIC constantly says we're shiningly town, we're out of our scum range and stuff, when he's just not

[Julinook]

i never tried to save two and through... i even tried to vote them at the very end but i was too late.

Who is this addressed to

this is addressed to the idea that i tried to save two and through

if you read my d1 this was clearly never my intention

I mean sure, the same holds for me, but at the end of the day we both fucked up putting our votes back on him

Spoiler: show

maybe I should tr you for this, idk if thats a goat tier read or really dumb

[trans rights]

[VOTE: two and through] aubergine

yeah i still think this is a wolf

sorry if wrong

except i actually tried to.

i would never vote like this in the thread if i didn't intend to vote on the poll. when i tried to vote in the poll, it locked and my switch wasn't processed

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

mmmm I'm a little discomforted by the way TSPIC constantly says we're shiningly town, we're out of our scum range and stuff, when he's just not

smh

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Can I actually get a reason for why we're aligned with Mana? I feel like we're pretty much spewed not w/w from interactions and myself wanting to personally chop them from D1.

I feel like from interactions we're unlikely to be with BT, but I guess it isn't impossible from an outsiders perspective. If T&T was a wolf, what are the chances that BT was a wolf and we had w/w wagons. It's not impossible, but the chances of it are very unlikely. And I think from voting wagonomics that Mana is more likely to be aligned with T&T than BT was to T&T.

[Julinook]

[VOTE: two and through] aubergine

yeah i still think this is a wolf

sorry if wrong

except i actually tried to.

i would never vote like this in the thread if i didn't intend to vote on the poll. when i tried to vote in the poll, it locked and my switch wasn't processed

Sure, and I explicitly said I intended to hammer tat if the opportunity came up, then I came back two minutes late. Same outcome. Not sure this really matters

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

mmmm I'm a little discomforted by the way TSPIC constantly says we're shiningly town, we're out of our scum range and stuff, when he's just not

you disagreed at the beginning of the day. What prompted this shift

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Look at how mana treats our slot this phase. They thought we were town at one point from their perspective and tried to hedge us onto ak/poop. When we didn’t join we’re now the wolf from their perspective.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Look at when mana claims they were blocked last day phase. Look at our reaction to the whole thing. I thought they were blocked by mafia originally because we holstered.

[Akemi Hazelnut]

mmmm I'm a little discomforted by the way TSPIC constantly says we're shiningly town, we're out of our scum range and stuff, when he's just not

you disagreed at the beginning of the day. What prompted this shift

Poe and your claim

[Akemi Hazelnut]

Your posting now is better than manas again

[Akemi Hazelnut]

But who tf is manas partner then, I thought tr could be but meh feels like a stretch

[Akemi Hazelnut]

Like unless we're in that weird 3 world with koopa but nahh dont see it

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Answer: you’ve miscleared someone

[Poop Explosions]

But who tf is manas partner then, I thought tr could be but meh feels like a stretch

The question then becomes who tf is anyone's partner

We're almost certainly dealing with bussing somewhere.

[Akemi Hazelnut]

Can I actually get a reason for why we're aligned with Mana? I feel like we're pretty much spewed not w/w from interactions and myself wanting to personally chop them from D1.

I feel like from interactions we're unlikely to be with BT, but I guess it isn't impossible from an outsiders perspective. If T&T was a wolf, what are the chances that BT was a wolf and we had w/w wagons. It's not impossible, but the chances of it are very unlikely. And I think from voting wagonomics that Mana is more likely to be aligned with T&T than BT was to T&T.

Can you talk more about that last sentence

[Akemi Hazelnut]

My ego says bt and tat were just w/w wagons

[trans rights]

But who tf is manas partner then, I thought tr could be but meh feels like a stretch

The question then becomes who tf is anyone's partner

We're almost certainly dealing with bussing somewhere.

yeah for certain, i'm trying to process what this means because if mana is a wolf, some sort of theater has occurred. otherwise it doesn't really make sense for mana to have a team fmpov

i don't think i'm misclearing toopy and binoo or you? and i think the strongest clear i'd have if mana is a wolf is julinook for how they approached d1. either that or bottom text.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Can I actually get a reason for why we're aligned with Mana? I feel like we're pretty much spewed not w/w from interactions and myself wanting to personally chop them from D1.

I feel like from interactions we're unlikely to be with BT, but I guess it isn't impossible from an outsiders perspective. If T&T was a wolf, what are the chances that BT was a wolf and we had w/w wagons. It's not impossible, but the chances of it are very unlikely. And I think from voting wagonomics that Mana is more likely to be aligned with T&T than BT was to T&T.

Can you talk more about that last sentence

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Voters: Akemi Hazelnut, Mana, trans rights, TwoAndThrough

TwoAndThrough
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Voters: Timsup2gettinserious, Toopy and Binoo, Honey & Vinegar, Bottom Text

Both Bottom Text and T&T ended up cross-voting. Obviously, it was for self-preservation. Mana votes BT and you could interpret that as him trying to save his partner. While it would be nice to have hit a w/w wagon on day 1, the chances of it are pretty slim. So Mana voting to save their partner is the likelier scenario. This is all on assumption that T&T was a wolf though.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

But who tf is manas partner then, I thought tr could be but meh feels like a stretch

The question then becomes who tf is anyone's partner

We're almost certainly dealing with bussing somewhere.

yeah for certain, i'm trying to process what this means because if mana is a wolf, some sort of theater has occurred. otherwise it doesn't really make sense for mana to have a team fmpov

i don't think i'm misclearing toopy and binoo or you? and i think the strongest clear i'd have if mana is a wolf is julinook for how they approached d1. either that or bottom text.

lol what

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

If Mana is a wolf you should have us lock cleared as far as I am concerned.

[Poop Explosions]

Add BT's self-resolving claim to what TSPIC's saying about self-pres.

[trans rights]

If Mana is a wolf you should have us lock cleared as far as I am concerned.

you're misunderstanding. if mana is a wolf, i have potentially clearing interactions for everyone in the game, other than maybe toopy and binoo. but i think toopy and binoo is just a villager regardless. at that point, it's a matter of determining which of the interactions are the MOST plausibly w/w. do you really think your interactions with mana are the most clearing period? i read your argument for why you're clear if mana is a wolf and i'm underwhelmed with all due respect.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

If Mana is a wolf you should have us lock cleared as far as I am concerned.

you're misunderstanding. if mana is a wolf, i have potentially clearing interactions for everyone in the game, other than maybe toopy and binoo. but i think toopy and binoo is just a villager regardless. at that point, it's a matter of determining which of the interactions are the MOST plausibly w/w. do you really think your interactions with mana are the most clearing period? i read your argument for why you're clear if mana is a wolf and i'm underwhelmed with all due respect.

Other than the fact that I've pushed them all game, they've treated my slot like garbage this phase then yes I believe we are the most clearing out of everyone. Just look at the posts and how they've treated me this phase. Look at how they claimed and our reaction to it. All of this points to not W/W with all due respect.

We also have one post left after this

[Akemi Hazelnut]

If Mana is a wolf you should have us lock cleared as far as I am concerned.

you're misunderstanding. if mana is a wolf, i have potentially clearing interactions for everyone in the game, other than maybe toopy and binoo. but i think toopy and binoo is just a villager regardless. at that point, it's a matter of determining which of the interactions are the MOST plausibly w/w. do you really think your interactions with mana are the most clearing period? i read your argument for why you're clear if mana is a wolf and i'm underwhelmed with all due respect.

something about this post rubs me wrong but idk if it makes sense why

Brain just says paranoia time

[Akemi Hazelnut]

What if i just put mana at -2

[Akemi Hazelnut]

The instant I said that I flashed back to the data mischop in the star trek game that just ended aaaaaa

[Akemi Hazelnut]

the parallel doesn't map well, mana is like simultaneously data and worf here

hm

or is tspic data


ugh monkey brain wanna do it

[Julinook]

The best part about the phrase "with all due respect" is that how much respect is due is left ambiguous. It could be a lot. It could be none. Nobody knows!

[Julinook]

the parallel doesn't map well, mana is like simultaneously data and worf here

hm

or is tspic data


ugh monkey brain wanna do it

Does this read really scummy to anyone else