The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[DaisyCloud]

Why perform well when you can rand some overly towny power and clear someone

Congress of Vienna type KZA

Well played!!!

I am actually extremely jealous here but trying to hide it.

You got a check, at random. That is more powerful than anything I saw on any other card. What do you make of Gavail's claim that he has access to a tracker shrine AND a watcher shrine? Does that seem plausible?

well you can potentially buy stuff if what you say is true. I'm thinking artifacts and such? ifk how that would work but you would buy actions? roles? abilities? if im understanding your role correctly it seems op too.

if you look at Sloonei's opening post. he explained that there is a cool down to visit a shrine. so players can visit multiple shrines. also some artifacts do different things depending 9n which faction has it.

I'm sorry if anything I said is stuff you already know.

idk if what Gavial is saying is true. what I don't like is he. made a claim but with only a little pressure. iirc he softed early day 2. I don't get why he did that. if he was/is town and does have these nite actions, then why not clear himself in other ways? was the sus from you and the teeny handful of others thst intimidating?

if he is a wolf it was good play done in a bad way.

I don't see him getting resolved. if he isn't lynched then going forward if he is wolf he can hedge by hemming and hawing thst he was rbed in some way or "forced to visit a different shrine" etc. if he isn't lynched and he is town, wolves will provide nk him or rb him or whatever. if he isn't nk he be potentially up for chopping block again.

[DaisyCloud]

bookmarp 1701

hey kyle! where u been? come and play.

[Marmot]

so Tim was wrong about Nanook, Seanzie, and Syn

I've been told he loves murdering townies as a wolf

should we be concerned yet?

What if your mafia cop that checked Tim and got a 3P peak.
You should claim it!

Sure what the hell? I copped our dear Tim.
3P or wolf? Nuance don’t matter. Yeet him.

Lolol, I almost believed it for a second.

[DaisyCloud]

someone I think it was Flanders said qwags is always qwags or something something.

but how can he be anything at all if he doesn't post? can't interpret anything if there is nothing to read, right?

@Qwags hi! come and play

[DaisyCloud]

hello Marmot! why do you think MacDougall think u r scum?

[Marmot]

sorry Qwags should be in the killing pile

I was gonna ask KZA to talk about Qwags too, but I see he said this.

[Marmot]

hello Marmot! why do you think MacDougall think u r scum?

There's never been a game where Mac doesn't scumread me, and his accusation didn't say much (but it was a picture so I guess that's bound to happen).

What do you think of it?

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Not ready to vote Gavail, but all by himself he makes the Marmot wagon too sketchy for me. Made, why you say you were gonna do better then gimmick, and then you gimmick?

What useful reads do you have to contribute?

I'm try this thing this game where instead of trying to solve the game hard I try to make friends and solve the game via the power of friendship!! I want to be the kinda slot that scum wants to kill before we make it to lylo, and If I make it, be a candidate for the cleared player who picks between 2 potentially scummy players trope

I love this idea!

What've you learned from your friendship meta? What'd you expect to learn from it?

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Not ready to vote Gavail, but all by himself he makes the Marmot wagon too sketchy for me. Made, why you say you were gonna do better then gimmick, and then you gimmick?

What useful reads do you have to contribute?

I'm try this thing this game where instead of trying to solve the game hard I try to make friends and solve the game via the power of friendship!! I want to be the kinda slot that scum wants to kill before we make it to lylo, and If I make it, be a candidate for the cleared player who picks between 2 potentially scummy players trope

Pro tip: reads are like gifts, and giving them will win you friends.

The "not gonna try hard and be pushing and demanding" is great...like I am trying to steer my game that way a bit too...but that doesn't include "yeah not giving reads just take a wild guess about my alignment." That's actually unfriendly, and to survive you gotta luck into a green check.

I don't think "unfriendly" is the right term to use here, even if it just happens to be the opposite of what Made says he's doing.

[Marmot]

so Tim was wrong about Nanook, Seanzie, and Syn

I've been told he loves murdering townies as a wolf

should we be concerned yet?

Tim's been burying himself so deep in your pocket, he's basically playing pocket pool. What's your take on that?

That your mafia scared of the 3P?

Why should mafia be scared of a 3P? Do you know something about any 3Ps?

[DaisyCloud]

hello Marmot! why do you think MacDougall think u r scum?

There's never been a game where Mac doesn't scumread me, and his accusation didn't say much (but it was a picture so I guess that's bound to happen).

What do you think of it?

oh okay. idk. not sure what to make of it yet. I have you at null.


a bit off-topic but .. and i forget how to change colors on this site so idk how to change font for off-topic posting so ill spoiler it instead.. still want to share it.

Spoiler: show

not sure if this is a marmot or a gopher or beaver but it's cute and it showed up in my discord trending gifs on my phone and I thought of u and was like aww cute:




I hope it works. I know how to send pics/memes on mobile but not gifs.


maybe it's this:

[bbvideo] https://discord.com/channels/4916279719 ... 2260183101 [/bbvideo]

last try:

[vimeo] https://discord.com/channels/4916279719 ... 2260183101 [/vimeo]


not that .. let me ss it and just picture the little guy moving and looking cute and happy doing what he is doing




it's blurry and stuff -_-||

this took me way too long too.

[Marmot]

did anyone claim the second kill

This is multiball, and my team did the second one.

[Marmot]

@DaisyCloud that reminds me of this other marmot gif I love <3

Spoiler: show

[Marmot]

why do you all hate lizards?




lollygagger.

Who hates lizards?

Also, why are you accusing us of lollygagging?

[DaisyCloud]

Spoiler: show

this still off-topic but not really. does anyone else have a problem with tos? I'm always like I think to needs another o.
just me? to and too I mix up, a lot. just me? okay nvm. is it way to long too? it is isn't it? not way too long too. also now I have an ear worm of that one song, it goes something like: way waaay t~oo loo~oong, hanging aro ~ ound. do you guys know what song I'm thinking of?

okay so am I supposed to believe Jack's claim? it looked like a jk. but iirc he pursued his take on tim tho?

[DaisyCloud]

why do you all hate lizards?




lollygagger.

Who hates lizards?

Also, why are you accusing us of lollygagging?

him boomer

[Marmot]

I have a watcher shrine so killing me is reeee.

Why did you watch Nanook? (That's what you claimed right?)

[DaisyCloud]

I have a watcher shrine so killing me is reeee.

Why did you watch Nanook? (That's what you claimed right?)

iirc, I think he said tracked.

[Marmot]

Wait if you watched Nanook, then you know who killed him!!

[Marmot]

I have a watcher shrine so killing me is reeee.

Why did you watch Nanook? (That's what you claimed right?)

iirc, I think he said tracked.

Oh that makes more sense.

[Marmot]

Spoiler: show

this still off-topic but not really. does anyone else have a problem with tos? I'm always like I think to needs another o.
just me? to and too I mix up, a lot. just me? okay nvm. is it way to long too? it is isn't it? not way too long too. also now I have an ear worm of that one song, it goes something like: way waaay t~oo loo~oong, hanging aro ~ ound. do you guys know what song I'm thinking of?

okay so am I supposed to believe Jack's claim? it looked like a jk. but iirc he pursued his take on tim tho?

I don't understand the spoilered, are you talking about Town of Salem??


Also, Jack didn't really pursue the tim thing, and the claim looks like a joke based on tim's original post. Full interaction in spoiler.

Spoiler: show

so Tim was wrong about Nanook, Seanzie, and Syn

I've been told he loves murdering townies as a wolf

should we be concerned yet?

What if your mafia cop that checked Tim and got a 3P peak.
You should claim it!

Sure what the hell? I copped our dear Tim.
3P or wolf? Nuance don’t matter. Yeet him.

Flat lie.
Rescind or die.

It ain’t lylo you don’t have a chance
Pretend to suspect me. Let’s see how you dance.

[DaisyCloud]

Spoiler: show

this still off-topic but not really. does anyone else have a problem with tos? I'm always like I think to needs another o.
just me? to and too I mix up, a lot. just me? okay nvm. is it way to long too? it is isn't it? not way too long too. also now I have an ear worm of that one song, it goes something like: way waaay t~oo loo~oong, hanging aro ~ ound. do you guys know what song I'm thinking of?

okay so am I supposed to believe Jack's claim? it looked like a jk. but iirc he pursued his take on tim tho?

I don't understand the spoilered, are you talking about Town of Salem??


Also, Jack didn't really pursue the tim thing, and the claim looks like a joke based on tim's original post. Full interaction in spoiler.

Spoiler: show

so Tim was wrong about Nanook, Seanzie, and Syn

I've been told he loves murdering townies as a wolf

should we be concerned yet?

What if your mafia cop that checked Tim and got a 3P peak.
You should claim it!

Sure what the hell? I copped our dear Tim.
3P or wolf? Nuance don’t matter. Yeet him.

Flat lie.
Rescind or die.

It ain’t lylo you don’t have a chance
Pretend to suspect me. Let’s see how you dance.

oh my bad. I can see how it might read like that. no I meant the word to. I used tos because there is 3 ways to use to and 2 ways to spell it. and I was thinking of my previous post and thinking I mispelt to. plus the ear worm.

[Marmot]

I have a watcher shrine so killing me is reeee.

Have a watcher shrine.
Like you visited a shrine and left with it?

Sounds like theft.

@Gavial why are you voting for Sexy Flanders after this joke post?

(Or maybe it wasn't a joke and I misunderstood you Flanders, but I read it as a joke)

[DaisyCloud]

Spoiler: show

this still off-topic but not really. does anyone else have a problem with tos? I'm always like I think to needs another o.
just me? to and too I mix up, a lot. just me? okay nvm. is it way to long too? it is isn't it? not way too long too. also now I have an ear worm of that one song, it goes something like: way waaay t~oo loo~oong, hanging aro ~ ound. do you guys know what song I'm thinking of?

okay so am I supposed to believe Jack's claim? it looked like a jk. but iirc he pursued his take on tim tho?

I don't understand the spoilered, are you talking about Town of Salem??


Also, Jack didn't really pursue the tim thing, and the claim looks like a joke based on tim's original post. Full interaction in spoiler.

Spoiler: show

so Tim was wrong about Nanook, Seanzie, and Syn

I've been told he loves murdering townies as a wolf

should we be concerned yet?

What if your mafia cop that checked Tim and got a 3P peak.
You should claim it!

Sure what the hell? I copped our dear Tim.
3P or wolf? Nuance don’t matter. Yeet him.

Flat lie.
Rescind or die.

It ain’t lylo you don’t have a chance
Pretend to suspect me. Let’s see how you dance.

oh okay. i see.. maybe I misrembered and maybe I recall posts or a post bringing it up or something. brain fog and it was late at nite last nite when I was catching up to game thread.

[Marmot]

I mean you could argue I’m a scum with it but what’s that really gonna do for me? Nothing really.

I’m just hoping I can use my watcher ability, out a scum and get cleared.

I think the argument is that you're lying, not that you're scum and have a watcher role.

Gav, do you claim early when you're town? I'm remembering Fargo Mafia where you subbed into the game and botched a claim immediately after subbing (by claiming my fake-claim rather than another one), and you also kinda fudged the early roleclaim in Fallout with sending the message to Spacedaisy and whatnot.

I guess what I'm seeing is that you roleclaim early and often as mafia. Do you do it as town too?

[Long Con]

Hahhahahaha mafia have to kill me and Syn

Why perform well when you can rand some overly towny power and clear someone

Congress of Vienna type KZA

I missed what this is about, can you explain please?

[Marmot]

Hahhahahaha mafia have to kill me and Syn

Why perform well when you can rand some overly towny power and clear someone

Congress of Vienna type KZA

I missed what this is about, can you explain please?

In Congress of Vienna, KZA was a desperado, and he shot TSP Day 1. TSP was town, so KZA died, but TSP was confirmed.

[KZA]

Why perform well when you can rand some overly towny power and clear someone

Congress of Vienna type KZA

Well played!!!

I am actually extremely jealous here but trying to hide it.

You got a check, at random. That is more powerful than anything I saw on any other card. What do you make of Gavail's claim that he has access to a tracker shrine AND a watcher shrine? Does that seem plausible?

I'm not sure, I dont think its unreasonable that the town roles could have varying degrees of strength

Basically what I'm saying is I wouldn't bank on it as the main point in a case, since it's not that hard to imagine it as just a strong town role

[Marmot]

I have no idea on the first post, but I'd also like to know why someone should protect Syn tonight (KZA is never dying).

[KZA]

sorry Qwags should be in the killing pile

I was gonna ask KZA to talk about Qwags too, but I see he said this.

I want him resolved rather soon if this keeps up from him, not a slot to take to the end game

[Marmot]

Oh wait, I know why they both are town. Never mind me.

[KZA]

I mean you could argue I’m a scum with it but what’s that really gonna do for me? Nothing really.

I’m just hoping I can use my watcher ability, out a scum and get cleared.

I think the argument is that you're lying, not that you're scum and have a watcher role.

Gav, do you claim early when you're town? I'm remembering Fargo Mafia where you subbed into the game and botched a claim immediately after subbing (by claiming my fake-claim rather than another one), and you also kinda fudged the early roleclaim in Fallout with sending the message to Spacedaisy and whatnot.

I guess what I'm seeing is that you roleclaim early and often as mafia. Do you do it as town too?

I think this post comes from a townie mindset in that Marmot articulated the read and gave Gavial a chance to answer, if he were scum Marmot couldve easily just listed the examples from other games and immediately scumread Gavial for it

Not impossible to fake just an okay feeling post from Marmot

[KZA]

Hahhahahaha mafia have to kill me and Syn

Why perform well when you can rand some overly towny power and clear someone

Congress of Vienna type KZA

I missed what this is about, can you explain please?

I have green checked Syn if you missed that

[Gavial]

I mean you could argue I’m a scum with it but what’s that really gonna do for me? Nothing really.

I’m just hoping I can use my watcher ability, out a scum and get cleared.

I think the argument is that you're lying, not that you're scum and have a watcher role.

Gav, do you claim early when you're town? I'm remembering Fargo Mafia where you subbed into the game and botched a claim immediately after subbing (by claiming my fake-claim rather than another one), and you also kinda fudged the early roleclaim in Fallout with sending the message to Spacedaisy and whatnot.

I guess what I'm seeing is that you roleclaim early and often as mafia. Do you do it as town too?

I think this post comes from a townie mindset in that Marmot articulated the read and gave Gavial a chance to answer, if he were scum Marmot couldve easily just listed the examples from other games and immediately scumread Gavial for it

Not impossible to fake just an okay feeling post from Marmot

I mean me claiming is NAI.
I’ll tell you one thing though. I’ve never lied about my ability in my first game and I ain’t lying about it here.

If people think I’m lying then I remember someone pointing out Nanook had Nocturnal and thus so do I as that’s the watcher ability.

Now, I also believe (I could be wrong) but I’m pretty sure both Nanook and Alison had my back day 1 and then both scum types killed them.
So maybe both scum wants to kill me.
Since town may end up keep killing more town this game (such as myself) I’m going to help you out SK on who to kill that is probably mafia.

[Gavial]

Mafia has 5.
Your Solo SK.

Mafia has this win easy and if they remove me it’s even easier so I’m going to give you 5 options that could be the mafia team or at least probably contains a scum knowing how good my reads are.

[falcon45ca]

Definitely Tony is bad though, he posted evil Tony Stark.

Pfffffft. You kids today, you know nothing of evil Tony Stark



This is evil Tony Stark

[Gavial]

Falcon/DaisyCloud/Flanders/Jack/Quin


Probably not all scum the more I think of it but probably contains at least 2, so this is your best bet SK. Please don’t allow scum to clean sweep that’s garbage.

[Gavial]

Please look at above post serial killer ^

[DaisyCloud]

Falcon/DaisyCloud/Flanders/Jack/Quin


Probably not all scum the more I think of it but probably contains at least 2, so this is your best bet SK. Please don’t allow scum to clean sweep that’s garbage.

this is garbage and no way you believe this

[Gavial]

Ooooooooo some ones angry.
SK be hungry.

[KZA]

is Gavial calling me the SK

[DaisyCloud]

first of all I'm town. and I got 0 clue to what Flanders, falcon, Jack, and quin is.

other then a boomer jk has quin even done anything?

[Gavial]

Probably should have been the day 1 yeet Tbh.
Not really playing my best here and I’m just allowing scum to continue to swoop in to ML me and potentially more.

I just hope SK plays it smart and kills mafia tonight.

[DaisyCloud]

Ooooooooo some ones angry.
SK be hungry.

not an sk either. it's almost 11am and I haven't had breakfast so yes I'm hungry. go be looking somewhere else. right now u r grasping at straws.

[Gavial]

is Gavial calling me the SK

Why would I be calling you the SK?

[Gavial]

SK’s probably Tim/BoKnows/Long Con

[Gavial]

And I hope they slay the mafia and you keep the alive to do so, because you guys aren’t doing that great finding mafia when you keep throwing shit at meZ

[falcon45ca]

I can't find the post from falcon45ca that I wanted to reply to.

but.. @falcon45ca what about LongCon that bothers you? was it just him sheeping his vote?

I get looking at the seanzie wagon and trying to see if wolf voted there and if so then who it could be.

far as I know, no one did a vc analysis. idk how to do one. at the site where I learned/started out in TvMs (what we call mafia games. it means Town vs Mafia) we had 1 guy make one and gave a barebones explanation on how to do it. something to do with the lynch person's flip. you look at early votes, mud votes and end votes and then the hammer iirc. and typically (rule of thumb) mafia is in one of those places and like town. but who is supposedly supposed to be a which slot idk/i don't remember. oorc other wagons you can put vc analysis on too? or no?

I had a point. .. my point, so u scumbly me and LongCon and it was the voting thing, right? or no?

LC pinged me for the sheep vote of not only Sean, but what I saw as sheeping a Marmot push by Syn as well. He'd also had very little (only 1) independent mention of a player being scummy (Kyle). He explained his rationale since then, and I'm satisfied with his explanation to give him some space to hunt for now.


Your posting at EOD comes across as distancing to me. Putting your vote back on doesn't preclude that, it could easily just be an excuse for scum to keep their vote on a mislynch while appearing to solve the slot thru other means. Others have defended you, but I'd like to hear from you what was going on in your head at the time.

[DaisyCloud]

either gavial is town and just randomly saying a bunch of names he drew from a hat or he is scum and calling out a bunch of names he randomly drew from a hat

[Gavial]

Ooooooooo some ones angry.
SK be hungry.

not an sk either. it's almost 11am and I haven't had breakfast so yes I'm hungry. go be looking somewhere else. right now u r grasping at straws.

I mean I didn’t even mean it like that but if your SK probably kill within there.
Maybe Falcon.