I think the scum team is maybe Gavial, qwags and Jack. idk the 4th. or 5th. and my Jack read is actually just a lean scum. and it could be nacho or something. Tony doesn't look hot but I wouldn't say he is in 4th or 5th slots.
of the 3 way tie, I'm probably voting qwags. made i sus but it's mostly guts. I don't have a specific slip or anything.
if qwags is the lynch today and flips town im probably looking more at high posters. I think it be weird if it's all low activity players.
I don't like the sk talks that seems to be where they think sk will work with town. it wasn't just Gavial who was doing it. though he is main one.
hold the phone
you see Qwags in the lead
you see the votes suddenly and quickly shift so that Qwags is no longer in the lead
your scum read Qwags won't go over and is now tied with your two town reads
so you vote for Gavial, who isn't a wagon at all
I actually do not think at the time that I voted it was a 3 way then iirc I voted gavial sometime last nite. or this morning when I woke up.
I did the 2x voting in a post a bit ago when I got 8n game because I was legit frustrated with gavial and his anti-town behavior. by the time I made that post I had long ago already voted him.
okay
wish people didn't use vote tags if they aren't using them to vote tbh
I rule tings!
tings don't rule me.
wish people fact check before sounding like they r making some weird accusations.
yeah me too
what's this about you saying there are two 3Ps, btw
is the game set up impossible for 3rd parties to exist?
why the sk talks then?
and sen if we are in like day 5 or 6 or 7 or whatever and like u, me, tim, kza, Mac, etc etc all still alive and tin foil hats and conspicuous amounts of conspiracy theories and deep wolf accusations are not being made then imma think all of you r trolling me or something like that. like dude.
I cannot believe this is a serious question since you specifically listed five wolf slots in your reads and that you had no idea who the 4th and 5th wolves are
that means you looked at the setup split and you know it's 18 v 5 v 1
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 5:56 pm
But I’ve led the Qwags lynch
Would you totally commit to this statement as true?
If we chop Qwags and he flips town, or if we don't chop him here, please go to the first posts you made pushing at Qwags and read them in the context of maybe twenty posts leading up to that point. I will be looking hard at that because I am not sure that push really originated with you.
If we chop Qwags and he flips wolf you get full pelt credit though, sure.
Well, you got me doubting myself now.
Went back a page from when I voted him. I’m...still very certain I have been the first vote and was the first to seriously bring him up.
But that wasn’t really the point I wanted made. She was asking why I was voting the way I was, and I’ve been on the Qwagmobile all day.
Regardless of if he flips bad or good, I would feel responsible, yes. I think he’s bad. If he’s good, then I can’t in good conscious go “well, in hindsight...” because, as Flanders said, “he’s a wolf even when he isn’t”
Sort of my point. I think Flanders really has driven this Qwags wagon as hard or harder, and for longer, than you have...it's just been a really wolfy method of pushing...so far. we are coming into the final act of the day two drama though and Flanders may prove out as a hero here...we'll see.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 4:16 pm
marmot made a similar argument for my innocence in double elimination mafia where he was mafia and presumably trying to pocket me? after a long verbal deathmatch with moghedian over what i think was probably minutia. i was accused by mog of twisting his words and marmot came in and said that he didn't think i was capable of that?
i guess my question is @Marmot is this a thing you really believe? is there anecdotal evidence for it?
Obviously in that game I had TMI because I was scum, but I probably wouldn't have thought of it if I didn't think there was some semblance of truth to it.
Has this happened to you in a wolf game? If it has, I'll reconsider my stance.
i feel like it has but i don't know enough about myself to dispute it. i know i tend to tunnel on things that end up being minutia. i guess i don't remember for sure if i've replicated it as mafia but i think i'd be capable of it? i can't think of any specific examples
the crux of my concern here is that i think given our recentmost games i feel like you'd be more apprehensive about your ability to townread me, i.e. stardew. the ease at which you town read me in double elimination was actually one of the red flags i ignored there. what's different here? please tell me about your kyle-reading process
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 5:56 pm
But I’ve led the Qwags lynch
Would you totally commit to this statement as true?
If we chop Qwags and he flips town, or if we don't chop him here, please go to the first posts you made pushing at Qwags and read them in the context of maybe twenty posts leading up to that point. I will be looking hard at that because I am not sure that push really originated with you.
If we chop Qwags and he flips wolf you get full pelt credit though, sure.
Well, you got me doubting myself now.
Went back a page from when I voted him. I’m...still very certain I have been the first vote and was the first to seriously bring him up.
But that wasn’t really the point I wanted made. She was asking why I was voting the way I was, and I’ve been on the Qwagmobile all day.
Regardless of if he flips bad or good, I would feel responsible, yes. I think he’s bad. If he’s good, then I can’t in good conscious go “well, in hindsight...” because, as Flanders said, “he’s a wolf even when he isn’t”
Sort of my point. I think Flanders really has driven this Qwags wagon as hard or harder, and for longer, than you have...it's just been a really wolfy method of pushing...so far. we are coming into the final act of the day two drama though and Flanders may prove out as a hero here...we'll see.
I rambled on in an earlier post about the whole qwags is always qwags or whatever. and thst is why I decided despite my missgivings not to vote there.
KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:26 pm
Daisy there is exactly 1 3P, the first post says this
Son of a...
I have been over the setup posts like ...more times than I can count, and I missed that. I blame centered text. Sloonei hiding important shit in plain sight, smh.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 4:16 pm
marmot made a similar argument for my innocence in double elimination mafia where he was mafia and presumably trying to pocket me? after a long verbal deathmatch with moghedian over what i think was probably minutia. i was accused by mog of twisting his words and marmot came in and said that he didn't think i was capable of that?
i guess my question is @Marmot is this a thing you really believe? is there anecdotal evidence for it?
Obviously in that game I had TMI because I was scum, but I probably wouldn't have thought of it if I didn't think there was some semblance of truth to it.
Has this happened to you in a wolf game? If it has, I'll reconsider my stance.
i feel like it has but i don't know enough about myself to dispute it. i know i tend to tunnel on things that end up being minutia. i guess i don't remember for sure if i've replicated it as mafia but i think i'd be capable of it? i can't think of any specific examples
the crux of my concern here is that i think given our recentmost games i feel like you'd be more apprehensive about your ability to townread me, i.e. stardew. the ease at which you town read me in double elimination was actually one of the red flags i ignored there. what's different here? please tell me about your kyle-reading process
@Marmot and this
My Kyle-reading process is as follows. If Kyle is posting a bunch of OT content but mixing in some hot takes, he's town. If Kyle is not mixing in those hot takes, and either sheeping or just playing detached, he's mafia.
I don't think Stardew counts, because it was a hydra, and I think Nanook did the majority of the posting. But even if you did post a lot, it was OT content
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 5:56 pm
But I’ve led the Qwags lynch
Would you totally commit to this statement as true?
If we chop Qwags and he flips town, or if we don't chop him here, please go to the first posts you made pushing at Qwags and read them in the context of maybe twenty posts leading up to that point. I will be looking hard at that because I am not sure that push really originated with you.
If we chop Qwags and he flips wolf you get full pelt credit though, sure.
Well, you got me doubting myself now.
Went back a page from when I voted him. I’m...still very certain I have been the first vote and was the first to seriously bring him up.
But that wasn’t really the point I wanted made. She was asking why I was voting the way I was, and I’ve been on the Qwagmobile all day.
Regardless of if he flips bad or good, I would feel responsible, yes. I think he’s bad. If he’s good, then I can’t in good conscious go “well, in hindsight...” because, as Flanders said, “he’s a wolf even when he isn’t”
Sort of my point. I think Flanders really has driven this Qwags wagon as hard or harder, and for longer, than you have...it's just been a really wolfy method of pushing...so far. we are coming into the final act of the day two drama though and Flanders may prove out as a hero here...we'll see.
And yeeetttttt he switched to Made
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:38 pm
Daisy trending quickly down
That slot is unlikely town
Unimpressed with the vanity wagon excuse
Her worldbuilding shows a tail on her caboose
agree
everyone else keeps saying how Daisy is obvs towning but she's been scummy all game and much worse during this EOD lead-up to my eye
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:36 pm
Ahhhh...LongCon...right when we need a very cool head that is also heavily town readable. This gets better and better.
Hey! I'm two pages behind, but I really want to tie it up three ways right now. I hope that's ok. [VOTE:
qwags] aubergine
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:36 pm
Ahhhh...LongCon...right when we need a very cool head that is also heavily town readable. This gets better and better.
Hey! I'm two pages behind, but I really want to tie it up three ways right now. I hope that's ok. [VOTE:
qwags] aubergine
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 4:16 pm
marmot made a similar argument for my innocence in double elimination mafia where he was mafia and presumably trying to pocket me? after a long verbal deathmatch with moghedian over what i think was probably minutia. i was accused by mog of twisting his words and marmot came in and said that he didn't think i was capable of that?
i guess my question is @Marmot is this a thing you really believe? is there anecdotal evidence for it?
Obviously in that game I had TMI because I was scum, but I probably wouldn't have thought of it if I didn't think there was some semblance of truth to it.
Has this happened to you in a wolf game? If it has, I'll reconsider my stance.
i feel like it has but i don't know enough about myself to dispute it. i know i tend to tunnel on things that end up being minutia. i guess i don't remember for sure if i've replicated it as mafia but i think i'd be capable of it? i can't think of any specific examples
the crux of my concern here is that i think given our recentmost games i feel like you'd be more apprehensive about your ability to townread me, i.e. stardew. the ease at which you town read me in double elimination was actually one of the red flags i ignored there. what's different here? please tell me about your kyle-reading process
@Marmot and this
My Kyle-reading process is as follows. If Kyle is posting a bunch of OT content but mixing in some hot takes, he's town. If Kyle is not mixing in those hot takes, and either sheeping or just playing detached, he's mafia.
I don't think Stardew counts, because it was a hydra, and I think Nanook did the majority of the posting. But even if you did post a lot, it was OT content
For the record, the only strike I have against Kyle is that post, and I asked him about that post, and I am still contemplating in what world Kyle makes any self-meta reference that includes Stardew.
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:36 pm
Ahhhh...LongCon...right when we need a very cool head that is also heavily town readable. This gets better and better.
Hey! I'm two pages behind, but I really want to tie it up three ways right now. I hope that's ok. [VOTE:
qwags] aubergine
[VOTE:
LC] aubergine
LOL you must have a humourous aspect implicit in your insanity. Good one!
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 5:56 pm
But I’ve led the Qwags lynch
Would you totally commit to this statement as true?
If we chop Qwags and he flips town, or if we don't chop him here, please go to the first posts you made pushing at Qwags and read them in the context of maybe twenty posts leading up to that point. I will be looking hard at that because I am not sure that push really originated with you.
If we chop Qwags and he flips wolf you get full pelt credit though, sure.
Well, you got me doubting myself now.
Went back a page from when I voted him. I’m...still very certain I have been the first vote and was the first to seriously bring him up.
But that wasn’t really the point I wanted made. She was asking why I was voting the way I was, and I’ve been on the Qwagmobile all day.
Regardless of if he flips bad or good, I would feel responsible, yes. I think he’s bad. If he’s good, then I can’t in good conscious go “well, in hindsight...” because, as Flanders said, “he’s a wolf even when he isn’t”
Sort of my point. I think Flanders really has driven this Qwags wagon as hard or harder, and for longer, than you have...it's just been a really wolfy method of pushing...so far. we are coming into the final act of the day two drama though and Flanders may prove out as a hero here...we'll see.
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 5:56 pm
But I’ve led the Qwags lynch
Would you totally commit to this statement as true?
If we chop Qwags and he flips town, or if we don't chop him here, please go to the first posts you made pushing at Qwags and read them in the context of maybe twenty posts leading up to that point. I will be looking hard at that because I am not sure that push really originated with you.
If we chop Qwags and he flips wolf you get full pelt credit though, sure.
Well, you got me doubting myself now.
Went back a page from when I voted him. I’m...still very certain I have been the first vote and was the first to seriously bring him up.
But that wasn’t really the point I wanted made. She was asking why I was voting the way I was, and I’ve been on the Qwagmobile all day.
Regardless of if he flips bad or good, I would feel responsible, yes. I think he’s bad. If he’s good, then I can’t in good conscious go “well, in hindsight...” because, as Flanders said, “he’s a wolf even when he isn’t”
Sort of my point. I think Flanders really has driven this Qwags wagon as hard or harder, and for longer, than you have...it's just been a really wolfy method of pushing...so far. we are coming into the final act of the day two drama though and Flanders may prove out as a hero here...we'll see.
And yeeetttttt he switched to Made
Granted, that is an interesting development.
Not only did he switch, but Gavail ordained it!! He said Flanders would switch out before the end
I don’t know what that means
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 5:56 pm
But I’ve led the Qwags lynch
Would you totally commit to this statement as true?
If we chop Qwags and he flips town, or if we don't chop him here, please go to the first posts you made pushing at Qwags and read them in the context of maybe twenty posts leading up to that point. I will be looking hard at that because I am not sure that push really originated with you.
If we chop Qwags and he flips wolf you get full pelt credit though, sure.
Well, you got me doubting myself now.
Went back a page from when I voted him. I’m...still very certain I have been the first vote and was the first to seriously bring him up.
But that wasn’t really the point I wanted made. She was asking why I was voting the way I was, and I’ve been on the Qwagmobile all day.
Regardless of if he flips bad or good, I would feel responsible, yes. I think he’s bad. If he’s good, then I can’t in good conscious go “well, in hindsight...” because, as Flanders said, “he’s a wolf even when he isn’t”
Sort of my point. I think Flanders really has driven this Qwags wagon as hard or harder, and for longer, than you have...it's just been a really wolfy method of pushing...so far. we are coming into the final act of the day two drama though and Flanders may prove out as a hero here...we'll see.
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 5:56 pm
But I’ve led the Qwags lynch
Would you totally commit to this statement as true?
If we chop Qwags and he flips town, or if we don't chop him here, please go to the first posts you made pushing at Qwags and read them in the context of maybe twenty posts leading up to that point. I will be looking hard at that because I am not sure that push really originated with you.
If we chop Qwags and he flips wolf you get full pelt credit though, sure.
Well, you got me doubting myself now.
Went back a page from when I voted him. I’m...still very certain I have been the first vote and was the first to seriously bring him up.
But that wasn’t really the point I wanted made. She was asking why I was voting the way I was, and I’ve been on the Qwagmobile all day.
Regardless of if he flips bad or good, I would feel responsible, yes. I think he’s bad. If he’s good, then I can’t in good conscious go “well, in hindsight...” because, as Flanders said, “he’s a wolf even when he isn’t”
Sort of my point. I think Flanders really has driven this Qwags wagon as hard or harder, and for longer, than you have...it's just been a really wolfy method of pushing...so far. we are coming into the final act of the day two drama though and Flanders may prove out as a hero here...we'll see.
And yeeetttttt he switched to Made
Granted, that is an interesting development.
Not only did he switch, but Gavail ordained it!! He said Flanders would switch out before the end
Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 5:43 pm
unless your vote counts for five, your vote accomplishes exactly nothing
Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 5:44 pm
gavial isn't town-read so being called out for vanity voting isn't a defense of his slot
if you genuinely would like us to jump ship and instead join you on gavial, that's a discussion
I thought I and some others been saying he is scummy. albeit in different ways. how is voting out Marmot or qwags or made any different?
of the 4 seems like Gavial is most sus.
I'm not crazy or anti-town. if I legitimately think the Gavin wagon won't happen I will vote elsewheres.
I don't think I will be the hammer on anyone. we still have time before eod. it's at 7pm EST. I refuse to end day early. do if I do end up having to hammer it be last minute.
hopefully people will see im right about Gavial. I could be wrong i didn't get a red check on him.
if I seem annoyed or whatever it's because it's weird to point it out where my vote is when we ligit got peeps not even voting yet. and as afk as they been im thinking some may not vote at all. idk but seems likely. and u say Nothing about that.
There is no hammer
really? oh. idk then. but like I'm not frozen on my vote on gavial. tho I think he is the wolfiest wolf. and im not buying his claim. and I pointed out all the flaws depending on his alignment.
it's not even a tunnel. I have been focused on finding his teammates.
lol sounds like a tunnel. I know, I’ve been there.
Who stands out to be w/w if gav is bad?
so I don't think marmot is scum.
I think the scum team is maybe Gavial, qwags and Jack. idk the 4th. or 5th. and my Jack read is actually just a lean scum. and it could be nacho or something. Tony doesn't look hot but I wouldn't say he is in 4th or 5th slots.
of the 3 way tie, I'm probably voting qwags. made i sus but it's mostly guts. I don't have a specific slip or anything.
if qwags is the lynch today and flips town im probably looking more at high posters. I think it be weird if it's all low activity players.
I don't like the sk talks that seems to be where they think sk will work with town. it wasn't just Gavial who was doing it. though he is main one.
hold the phone
you see Qwags in the lead
you see the votes suddenly and quickly shift so that Qwags is no longer in the lead
your scum read Qwags won't go over and is now tied with your two town reads
so you vote for Gavial, who isn't a wagon at all
Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 5:05 pm
6-5-1 wagons. 6 is Tim's town read. 5 and 1 are his scum reads. Tim switches to make the wagons 6-4-2.
All I see are werewolf seeds
Why not try to yeet scumreads?
KZA wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:26 pm
Daisy there is exactly 1 3P, the first post says this
this is information i was not aware of at all previously. thank u
how were you aware there were exactly five wolves then
I'll take "that has been widely discussed in thread" for a thousand Alex...
it hasn't
but even if that was true
so was the 3P
I picked up "there are five wolves" from the thread. I think I injected "there is a 3P called rogue into the thread myself, based on the artifact description post. As of twenty minutes ago if you had said "is there just one 3P?" I would have answered "no fucking idea."
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 4:16 pm
marmot made a similar argument for my innocence in double elimination mafia where he was mafia and presumably trying to pocket me? after a long verbal deathmatch with moghedian over what i think was probably minutia. i was accused by mog of twisting his words and marmot came in and said that he didn't think i was capable of that?
i guess my question is @Marmot is this a thing you really believe? is there anecdotal evidence for it?
Obviously in that game I had TMI because I was scum, but I probably wouldn't have thought of it if I didn't think there was some semblance of truth to it.
Has this happened to you in a wolf game? If it has, I'll reconsider my stance.
i feel like it has but i don't know enough about myself to dispute it. i know i tend to tunnel on things that end up being minutia. i guess i don't remember for sure if i've replicated it as mafia but i think i'd be capable of it? i can't think of any specific examples
the crux of my concern here is that i think given our recentmost games i feel like you'd be more apprehensive about your ability to townread me, i.e. stardew. the ease at which you town read me in double elimination was actually one of the red flags i ignored there. what's different here? please tell me about your kyle-reading process
@Marmot and this
My Kyle-reading process is as follows. If Kyle is posting a bunch of OT content but mixing in some hot takes, he's town. If Kyle is not mixing in those hot takes, and either sheeping or just playing detached, he's mafia.
I don't think Stardew counts, because it was a hydra, and I think Nanook did the majority of the posting. But even if you did post a lot, it was OT content
For the record, the only strike I have against Kyle is that post, and I asked him about that post, and I am still contemplating in what world Kyle makes any self-meta reference that includes Stardew.
Part of my read of Kyle stems from some games of Among Us we played recently, where Kyle exhibited some clear anxiety when he randed imposter. I know that FM is different, but I'd gander that the detached nature is a result of that.
I agree, Stardew is a weird reference for self-meta. Iirc, Nanook posted strictly to pocket dunia, and Kyle posted uhhhh hardly at all. And you!!! Ok, done talking about that game.
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