PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [END]

[Syn]

[VOTE: c4] aubergine

[bronana]

[VOTE: syn] aubergine

[dyachei]

[VOTE: c4] aubergine

[Syn]

[VOTE: syn] aubergine

zack stop this is too much wifom when I get chopped and flip red

[nutella]

suddenly the wagons are actually close what have i done

[bronana]

I'm sick of killing villagers because they aren't doing or posting enough

c4 feels like a miss and resolves nothing

[nutella]

it's time for wagon purity reads with nutella

[VOTE: dya] aubergine

[Syn]

*shakes tin can* votes on c4 for the poor? votes on c4 for the poor?

[dyachei]

it's time for wagon purity reads with nutella

[VOTE: dya] aubergine

if only you had conviction for literally anything else

[c4e5g3d5]

I think this is dumb. I don’t think it’s that hard.

I literally town read Vul. My observation was in spite of that. Not concerned with making up a story that would make sense or be coherent. If my motivation was getting cred or something I’d make it a big thing.

You’re asking the wrong questions. You don’t know me.

You're missing my point again. What if maybe, just maybe, there was no motivation? Is it really that far out of your wolf range to just say random shit about your buddies?

Yes, actually, it is. As wolf I overthink and plan everything. The mentality I have as wolf is completely different from when I'm town, which is why I hate playing as that alignment. I would never say random shit about teammates as wolf without it being thoroughly planned.

Correct me on any of the below assumptions.

1. Anyone with a third neuron knows that dya, Syn and I will all be dead by D7.
2. You think the game will end once dya, Syn and I are all dead.
3. You care about what I'm saying about you right now.

1. Probably true if you've followed the game closely and have an overview at this time, but I didn't. Haven't been able to read much at all the last few days. I want Dya to be chopped today, and haven't thought much past that.
2. No, I have never said that. In fact, if you used 10 % of the passion you have whining about me not being in most people's PoE on actually reading my posts, you would know that I came into the game with a PoE of Dya + c4/SPF/Nut. This is before I had really considered stuff. I also completely forgot about Syn at that time.
3. It annoys me and I don't understand where it's coming from. So yes, I care in two ways: 1. Why is this important to you and can I get an AI read off of it? 2. Fucking annoying.

Do you see the conflict here? Why should what I'm saying about you now matter to you if you'll win whether I say it or not?

What the fuck are these words?
Your assumptions are all strange and wrong. I'll get annoyed as fuck when people don't understand me, don't even try for a second to listen or actually understand where I'm coming from and is coming at me with dumb shit when I don't understand why. Like, you seem real passionate about wanting to drag me for some reason. If you use some of that passion actually listen to me and listen to what other people say about me, or like actually figuring out my alignment, I think that would be a lot more productive.

Am I town or scum to you?

I can think of a scenario where me saying what I'm saying now could affect your win condition. Guess what that scenario is?

This is the sort of phrasing that is fucking annoying. "Guess what that is hmmmm???"

Your problems here are several:
You are complete ignoring what I'm actually saying and you're making shit up that isn't real.
You are also ignoring what others are saying about me. They know me and you don't. So maybe you should listen.
For some reason you are only considering the angle where I'm wolf. It's like "Do you see how I think you might react this way as a wolf, hmm?" Which first of all, actually no. And second of all - can you get out of that perspective and see how what I'm doing is coming from town?

And I have no idea why you try to make me reacting to your posts a wolf thing. "Why would you care unless you're a wolf, hmmm?"
Cause we all know no villager ever gets annoyed at wrong assumptions and shit thrown at them and will just bypass it and not care. Please. I'll react to wrong takes on me. Take some time and listen. I don't understand why you're so passionate about getting this out, when you have zero passion for getting your concerns answered and taking that in.

Imagine thinking I'm passionate about something rn

I'm focusing on the wolf angle because you don't clear someone by saying "a townie would do this". You clear someone by saying "a wolf wouldn't do this". If I didn't get why you would do that as town, I'd be voting you. Obviously I'll care if people are hard clearing you for something that I don't think is significantly clearing. No accusations.

In any case I'm dropping the TMI stuff.

Oh also chill

[c4e5g3d5]

@c4e5g3d5 what is your take on syn btw?

Tangy seemed benign
Chloe seemed benign
Syn seems benign
But also PoE's a bitch

The stuff Zack said about Chloe seems like personality stuff
Don't know why people are mad at Syn's play today but I've seen him have ??? takes before

I do get what you guys are saying about Vulgard's Tangy stuff and mostly agree

[Syn]

all my takes are cool and hip

[c4e5g3d5]

So Arete and spf are the ones I have to make your ears bleed over? Cool gimme a sec.

[c4e5g3d5]

The Arete/Vulgard dynamic was way too pockety to be w/w don't even try.

I mean, I'm feeling a bit too lazy to do anything more than just c/p this every time someone asks me about Arete

Zack's SoD post is a bunch of been there done that for me.

[c4e5g3d5]

Amy's reason to townread spf looks good at a glance, but I also wanna just say... read her posts?

Clearly playing by discovery, all the swerves in her reasoning are organic and not agenda-driven, done genuinely in a way that shows she has skin in this thing, earnest concern about threadstate in moments like when people got worried we were all solving in single-player mode

All things that are towny on their own, distinctly in her town range and distinctly out of her wolf range

[Amy]

my legacy is "follow sunbae's legacy" pending further thought/reading

[Marluxion]

There's more in the neighborhood that I haven't gone over yet probably but that'll have to wait until tonight. I'll do some backreading as well if dya flips v. Neither should be necessary if they are a wolf though

[bronana]

outed wolf + syn
lock it in
for the win
put them in the bin
wolfing like sin
you think that's a schwinn

[Syn]

no

[bronana]

I don't know how visor strongly wolfreads dya ALL GAME, never commits to actually killing them, and now decides to randomly clear them

he has vaguely shaded Chloe/syn a few times but never seemed remotely interested in actually killing them, and now decides to randomly clear syn

eat pant, sir

[Dyslexicon]

I thought Visor just got bored and wanted to create some waves and be cool tbh.

I think I've liked SPF this day. And she also had the Alison/Dya idea and felt similar about it to me (that it was dumb, but she still had it). So I don't think I'm about to tinfoil SPF very hard.

[Amy]

woah wait did zack actually flip on visor i missed that

[Dyslexicon]

I think it's just Dya/Nut tbh. Dya towards Nut today has felt to me like "Cool distancing. Nobody will suspect anything."

And I can't really get convinced about anyone else being mafia with Dya, but I'm pretty sure Dya is mafia.
Haven't really considered Visor, but I know I've had reasons to find him town throughout the game.

[c4e5g3d5]

I don't know how visor strongly wolfreads dya ALL GAME, never commits to actually killing them, and now decides to randomly clear them

he has vaguely shaded Chloe/syn a few times but never seemed remotely interested in actually killing them, and now decides to randomly clear syn

eat pant, sir

I mean, I'll look at it, but considering the kind of case this is, I probably won't exactly be impartial.

[nutella]

I think it's just Dya/Nut tbh. Dya towards Nut today has felt to me like "Cool distancing. Nobody will suspect anything."

And I can't really get convinced about anyone else being mafia with Dya, but I'm pretty sure Dya is mafia.
Haven't really considered Visor, but I know I've had reasons to find him town throughout the game.

i think if you read my posts it's pretty clear i'm town

and my read on dya has been real all game, while i dont feel like theirs on me has been

[nutella]

also dya's last post to me was basically weak shade/discrediting me without denying i'm town

[staypositivefriend]

getting that final hour of the day paranoia and unease. that's the good stuff!

[c4e5g3d5]

@bronana why would Syn specifically be Visor's partner and not dya
It's the same treatment

[nutella]

@bronana why would Syn specifically be Visor's partner and not dya
It's the same treatment

he just explained how it was different..?

i dont think visor is wolf but i can at least see where zack is coming from

[c4e5g3d5]

He explained a difference, but I don't see how that difference really affects partner equity.

[nutella]

if dya v -> c4, if c4 v -> syn, if c4 w -> spf; hard for me to imagine dya/c4/syn all v
if dya w -> syn, if syn v -> ?? uhh tbh haven't thought about this one much

[nutella]

i think a visor/syn, visor/dya, or zack/dya team is conceivable at this point but not something im ready to really entertain

the vulgard stuff just looks good for both zack and visor

[staypositivefriend]

i have a certain Thought but i think that i will wait to see dya's flip before i say it, because i dont wanna be a clown

[nutella]

re-read d3 nutella

when vulgard was trying to post his way out of the peek and people were turning to his side and saying maybe he's town i shut him down and told him to stuff it

look at how he treats me all game

calling me more likely w/w with vulgard than arete is bonkers

I think aretes pov is just clearly uninformed tbh

Like I considered vulgard v worlds for a bit

and could argue that you could be wolf with tmi figuring he'd be going down that day anyway and positioning well

but i dont really think that's the case, I think you're far more likely a villabro with strong instincts

meh, maybe would still vote arete before you if it got to that point, but i feel like it just won't

no way i make noise questioning the arete/vulgard godread thing if arete is V and imma wolf

sure distancing is a thing but thats just gross negligence, vulgard was in zero trouble and getting strongly townread by a villager claiming a godread? why would i mess with that lol, i'm not the type of wolf who's obssessed with being right about everything

like this especially--i didnt respond to this at the time bc i was falling asleep but i think it does actually hold up pretty well in zack's favor

[nutella]

as for visor, it's possible i'm weighing the "W R O N G" thing too strongly and he could do that to a teammate for the lulz, but i dont really see it lol

[bronana]

@bronana why would Syn specifically be Visor's partner and not dya
It's the same treatment

difference of degree and I think syn is wolfier than dya, and in this world I get more of the sense of keeping dya around as a bankable easy yeet

but sure, it's possible

really my issue was more that visor doesn't seem to care that much about his reads

[nutella]

@bronana why would Syn specifically be Visor's partner and not dya
It's the same treatment

difference of degree and I think syn is wolfier than dya, and in this world I get more of the sense of keeping dya around as a bankable easy yeet

but sure, it's possible

really my issue was more that visor doesn't seem to care that much about his reads

i think he does though, he seems to have genuinely changed his mind on dya? idk i can see having some concern for that 180 if dya flips v here because they were almost certainly dying today anyway, but having changed my mind a few times on dya over the game (albeit less dramatically/confidently) i think it can be legit

[nutella]

for me right now the most likely teams are just dya/syn, syn/c4, and c4/spf in about that order

[dyachei]

nut, it's because i read you town rn. your bad tunnel on me just makes me believe it more

[bronana]

i have a certain Thought but i think that i will wait to see dya's flip before i say it, because i dont wanna be a clown

[dyachei]

i love it when people do shit like that in thread. it's my favorite

[nutella]

nut, it's because i read you town rn. your bad tunnel on me just makes me believe it more

i'm not actually that tunneled on you anymore

i think you probably need to flip, and the c4 cw made me uneasy enough to go back to yours, but think syn/c4 is decently plausible rn

[staypositivefriend]

i have a certain Thought but i think that i will wait to see dya's flip before i say it, because i dont wanna be a clown

same

[outed wolf]

Well I hope my change of heart was wrong I guess

Gl fellas

[nutella]

I mean when I step back and look at dya's game it feels a lot more like their wolfgames than any of their town games ive seen

so I'm hoping that's the case

[outed wolf]

Fwiw I'm not super convinced syn is a villager

But reading a few posts in the iso I am def worried here

Could all be for nothing I guess but we will see

[outed wolf]

I mean I knew when I said it that I had no hope of convincing any of you

Time will tell if it was too little too late

[staypositivefriend]

weh

[Arete]

hi

checking in for EoD

is anything happening/does anyone want my opinion on anything

[staypositivefriend]

what are your general feelings about the gamestate, arete? do you feel like we're in a good position? are you worried about anything? what's dya gonna flip?