The Fall of Númenor - Game Over!

[Syn]

enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn

this is a lie

Esooa claims doctor, protected wiml. Given there was no death, this obviously has to be true. Why would it be a lie unless syn knows wiml wasn’t the target of the NK??

Wtf is going on

[VOTE: deli] aubergine

the fuck is this vote

Wait a second I just realized something.
If mafia did attack WimI and if mafia knew the only one that would protect them is Esooa and that happens to be the case, how would mafia go into the next day knowing this logic?
Honestly it may make sense to insta vote WimI to push their kill target and out Esooa.
I think HK could actually be Scum.

some prime gavial meat here

[Syn]

enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn

this is a lie

Esooa claims doctor, protected wiml. Given there was no death, this obviously has to be true. Why would it be a lie unless syn knows wiml wasn’t the target of the NK??

Wtf is going on

[VOTE: deli] aubergine

the fuck is this vote

it's spicy. Wanna get in on the ground floor?

I'd rather vote mafia

ok you should self vote

[Esooa]

alright this thread is absolutely horrible right now and 50 posts isn't enough to sort you people out

I'll be back tomorrow or EoD to see if people want to do productive things

[Gavial]

I wonder what would happen if I went here...
[VOTE: Hollowcat] aubergine

[Deli]

I’m saying syn probably wolf slipped, and they targeted someone else, which means JK also went thru…

Unless there is some other mech reason Esooa could be lying that I’m missing?

ok couple things.
1 - nobody has mentioned JK, just doctor, so that's bad
2 - esooa claiming doc on wiml and syn saying that's a lie doesn't mean syn knows where the NK was, please think that logic through.

Pretty sure Jk is a role in this game, bruh

pretty sure the 4 roles given in the OP said town will have 3 of them.

… forget about it, I didn’t read closely

Regardless, I don’t understand what syn is doing and Occam’s razor feels like syn is just a wolf here

Syn/hk/nanook team doesn’t seem unrealistic

[hollowkatt]

enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn

this is a lie

Esooa claims doctor, protected wiml. Given there was no death, this obviously has to be true. Why would it be a lie unless syn knows wiml wasn’t the target of the NK??

Wtf is going on

[VOTE: deli] aubergine

the fuck is this vote

Wait a second I just realized something.
If mafia did attack WimI and if mafia knew the only one that would protect them is Esooa and that happens to be the case, how would mafia go into the next day knowing this logic?
Honestly it may make sense to insta vote WimI to push their kill target and out Esooa.
I think HK could actually be Scum.

I think that's one of your worse ideas lol
if I tried to kill Wiml last night why do I come in pushing him today knowing that someone out there knows for god damn sure he's town? Think that through please.
That would mean I'm outing myself, someone who wasn't under pressure yesterday, to trade for wiml?!

The only time that makes sense is if both of my partners are incredibly deep AND we're locked in on Wiml being a PR we absolutely have to deal with. Do you think that's legit what happened?

[Syn]

I’m saying syn probably wolf slipped, and they targeted someone else, which means JK also went thru…

Unless there is some other mech reason Esooa could be lying that I’m missing?

ok couple things.
1 - nobody has mentioned JK, just doctor, so that's bad
2 - esooa claiming doc on wiml and syn saying that's a lie doesn't mean syn knows where the NK was, please think that logic through.

Pretty sure Jk is a role in this game, bruh

pretty sure the 4 roles given in the OP said town will have 3 of them.

… forget about it, I didn’t read closely

Regardless, I don’t understand what syn is doing and Occam’s razor feels like syn is just a wolf here

Syn/hk/nanook team doesn’t seem unrealistic

that is not what occam's razor is

man what a pandora's box

[hollowkatt]

enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn

this is a lie

Esooa claims doctor, protected wiml. Given there was no death, this obviously has to be true. Why would it be a lie unless syn knows wiml wasn’t the target of the NK??

Wtf is going on

[VOTE: deli] aubergine

the fuck is this vote

it's spicy. Wanna get in on the ground floor?

I'd rather vote mafia

then move your vote

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh god the logic here is painful

This is why we don't call un-cced claims liars unless we have actual mech reason to

[Kami]

[VOTE: Nanook[/vote}

I'm gonna keep voting wolves] aubergine

[Deli]

I’m saying syn probably wolf slipped, and they targeted someone else, which means JK also went thru…

Unless there is some other mech reason Esooa could be lying that I’m missing?

ok couple things.
1 - nobody has mentioned JK, just doctor, so that's bad
2 - esooa claiming doc on wiml and syn saying that's a lie doesn't mean syn knows where the NK was, please think that logic through.

Pretty sure Jk is a role in this game, bruh

pretty sure the 4 roles given in the OP said town will have 3 of them.

… forget about it, I didn’t read closely

Regardless, I don’t understand what syn is doing and Occam’s razor feels like syn is just a wolf here

Syn/hk/nanook team doesn’t seem unrealistic

that is not what occam's razor is

man what a pandora's box

Simplest solution is often the right solution. All you’ve done is say Esooa is lying, no reason why, nothing. It’s just wolfy tbh

[Syn]

Oh god the logic here is painful

This is why we don't call un-cced claims liars unless we have actual mech reason to

esooa is lying

open your heart and accept the truth

[Kami]

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

opps

[Esooa]

this is a lie

Esooa claims doctor, protected wiml. Given there was no death, this obviously has to be true. Why would it be a lie unless syn knows wiml wasn’t the target of the NK??

Wtf is going on

[VOTE: deli] aubergine

the fuck is this vote

it's spicy. Wanna get in on the ground floor?

I'd rather vote mafia

then move your vote

ur right the person with a trash unexplained read on the towniest person in thread (wiml) who is posting garbage like "ur lying for no reason" is town

the worst part is it might be true tbh but I'm still not moving it

bye now

[Wiml]

This is incredibly painful to read lol.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh god the logic here is painful

This is why we don't call un-cced claims liars unless we have actual mech reason to

esooa is lying

open your heart and accept the truth

Is this a cc

Or a track claim

If not please stop

[Syn]

20 posts left, guess I'll chillax for 30 hours

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I hate you syn

[hollowkatt]

I am enjoying myself

[Wiml]

Gavial, knowing hk he's seriously just town here. His push on me wasn't fake. I can describe it with some choice language but ingenuine and driven to push a protective claim isn't part of that.

[Esooa]

me every time I'm a PR: I'm going to claim because it's unlikely I get more use out of my power considering it will do nothing night 2 and only possibly night 3, so helping town by giving them confirms is good

town every time I do: what if I throw and scum read claims because though

[falcon45ca]

I am hungover, can someone give me cliff's notes? It looks like stuff happened

[falcon45ca]

Lol

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

I’m not sure what the case here on wiml is? He was wrong on igno but so were a lot of you…

he was wrong on igno and it looks like he was trying to setup falcon for going over today, capitalizing on how people were sus of him yesterday.

Does this mean you're TR me now?

[Deli]

I am hungover, can someone give me cliff's notes? It looks like stuff happened

No death

Doctor claim - Esooa protects wiml

Vague cc/denial of the claim from Syn

Deli- confusion

[falcon45ca]

I think Marmot's vote is the most justified here, although I'm not sure where to lean on Marmot. I voted igno mostly because of what Marmot pointed about igno and falcon. Esooa is probably my strongest townread rn. So if there's wolf in there, I'd look at Gavial and Wiml.

This post is yucky

[falcon45ca]

Oh god the logic here is painful

This is why we don't call un-cced claims liars unless we have actual mech reason to

esooa is lying

open your heart and accept the truth

Why is she lying?

[hollowkatt]

Lol

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

I’m not sure what the case here on wiml is? He was wrong on igno but so were a lot of you…

he was wrong on igno and it looks like he was trying to setup falcon for going over today, capitalizing on how people were sus of him yesterday.

Does this mean you're TR me now?

I don't not town read you

[Creature]

Personally I was surprised with the Igno!Green flip.
Also makes me believe potentially 2 scum were on the wagon and I suppose WimI would fit that spot.
Although I still think Syn is scum.

Did you ever answer why you had Syn and igno as aligned together?

[Creature]

Mac and HK are my towncore

Why on both?

[dunya]

hi folks! I see tensions have been running high this day phase already, and some people are frustrated, so please do take a breather if the game has been causing you any stress or dm me on discord and let's have an unwinding chat!!

[Creature]

I think Marmot's vote is the most justified here, although I'm not sure where to lean on Marmot. I voted igno mostly because of what Marmot pointed about igno and falcon. Esooa is probably my strongest townread rn. So if there's wolf in there, I'd look at Gavial and Wiml.

why me

I have wolfed with you and this game doesn't resemble your wolf game.

wiml is basically playing the exact same game as me. What do you think of that?

I'm not sure on Wiml. I had them as town earlier because of some of their unpopular stances, but Mac has been telling me Wiml can easily do that as wolf while I don't know Wiml's wolfgame.

[Wiml]

I think Marmot's vote is the most justified here, although I'm not sure where to lean on Marmot. I voted igno mostly because of what Marmot pointed about igno and falcon. Esooa is probably my strongest townread rn. So if there's wolf in there, I'd look at Gavial and Wiml.

why me

I have wolfed with you and this game doesn't resemble your wolf game.

wiml is basically playing the exact same game as me. What do you think of that?

I'm not sure on Wiml. I had them as town earlier because of some of their unpopular stances, but Mac has been telling me Wiml can easily do that as wolf while I don't know Wiml's wolfgame.

I mean... not only is Esooa claiming a successful doc protect on me but if you read the conversation earlier properly between you and Mac it's clear that Mac has never seen me wolf lol. The only person who has in this game is Esooa I believe. That's not a good reason at all for flipping a read on me.

I have more stuff to say wrt my reads but I'll wait until the morning honestly.

[Kami]

If someone is being completely open about what happened and the other is being vague as fuck I think it's pretty obvious whose telling the truth

[Creature]

enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn

this is a lie

???

syns basically claiming parity cop

How do you get to this

because there's no other reasons to believe my claim is a lie than a red on wiml + that tracks with his attitude today, opening with who is his town core

There's no red check afaik. There's the possibility of a parity cop that will probably only have a concrete result by N2.

yes deli, i, a wolf, publicly in thread, said esooa is a liar because i tried to NK someone else and i couldn't let a lie stand

big brain time

Yeah, but why is Esooa a liar?

[Kami]

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

[MacDougall]

I am enjoying myself

wolfy

[MacDougall]

alright daddy is here you can all shut up now

[Creature]

I wonder what would happen if I went here...
[VOTE: Hollowcat] aubergine

Meh.

Oh god the logic here is painful

This is why we don't call un-cced claims liars unless we have actual mech reason to

esooa is lying

open your heart and accept the truth

If you have something just say it, therer's no point in hiding it at this rate.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

opps

Tempting.

This is incredibly painful to read lol.

I know. It's so frustrating.

[Syn]

Mac and HK are my towncore

Why on both?

cuz

[Syn]

Oh god the logic here is painful

This is why we don't call un-cced claims liars unless we have actual mech reason to

esooa is lying

open your heart and accept the truth

If you have something just say it, therer's no point in hiding it at this rate.

I did say it

[MacDougall]

I am syn's towncore.

[MacDougall]

I reckon gavial is mafia too eh

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If someone is being completely open about what happened and the other is being vague as fuck I think it's pretty obvious whose telling the truth

Yeah its obvious syn is telling the truth and esooa is outed #gottem

[Creature]

Gavial, knowing hk he's seriously just town here. His push on me wasn't fake. I can describe it with some choice language but ingenuine and driven to push a protective claim isn't part of that.

Okay, I'll take your word.

I think Marmot's vote is the most justified here, although I'm not sure where to lean on Marmot. I voted igno mostly because of what Marmot pointed about igno and falcon. Esooa is probably my strongest townread rn. So if there's wolf in there, I'd look at Gavial and Wiml.

why me

I have wolfed with you and this game doesn't resemble your wolf game.

wiml is basically playing the exact same game as me. What do you think of that?

I'm not sure on Wiml. I had them as town earlier because of some of their unpopular stances, but Mac has been telling me Wiml can easily do that as wolf while I don't know Wiml's wolfgame.

I mean... not only is Esooa claiming a successful doc protect on me but if you read the conversation earlier properly between you and Mac it's clear that Mac has never seen me wolf lol. The only person who has in this game is Esooa I believe. That's not a good reason at all for flipping a read on me.

I have more stuff to say wrt my reads but I'll wait until the morning honestly.

Yeah, unless Syn specifies exactly where Esooa is lying, I'll suppose you're town here.

If someone is being completely open about what happened and the other is being vague as fuck I think it's pretty obvious whose telling the truth

Yes, this.

Oh god the logic here is painful

This is why we don't call un-cced claims liars unless we have actual mech reason to

esooa is lying

open your heart and accept the truth

If you have something just say it, therer's no point in hiding it at this rate.

I did say it

You only said Esooa lied, but you didn't bring why.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

This is "I didn't actually say I had a red check you plebes" all over again isn't it

[Syn]

This is "I didn't actually say I had a red check you plebes" all over again isn't it

hey she was a wolf in that game too

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Your "red check" was a pr in that game too lol

[Syn]

my red checks are A+ tbh

also I'm not calling Esooa a liar due to a red check

[Wiml]

Your "red check" was a pr in that game too lol

Wait weren't you and me the PRs? Logic was the "red check".

[Deli]

Syn should be hiding his claim or just claim it, instead he is doing this weird middle ground vague thing that doesn’t make sense

Regardless we lunch outside of the claims 100% of the time here I’m pretty sure.