Bird Mafia [TOWN VICTORY]

[Long Con]

I have to work all day today, I don't think I'll be back before the deadline. I guess I'll just stay on HK because it seems like that's what's happening today.

[EnderWiggin]

I'm prepared to trust Wiml's shield on Wurzel for a bit and pursue other suspects. I expect regular progress reports on Wurzel's alignment.

Same

[EnderWiggin]

Morning All

I think I'm going to start today by ISOing Ender to try to resolve his slot.

Nice to meet you Monkey

Bring it.

[lost monkey]

Elder and gavial both seem fine as well, town lean. Hollowkat definitely don't mind lynching.

[lost monkey]

Creature reaction to being forced to make reads is fine, leaning town there.

[lost monkey]

What do you think of Alison then?

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

[Wiml]

What do you think of Alison then?

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

Esooa subbed out lol.

[lost monkey]

What do you think of Alison then?

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

Esooa subbed out lol.

damn, who replaced her?

[Don Wurzeloni]

Ender’s ISO

Thread entry – seems quite relaxed and makes a joke

#230 – “I also like to arbitrarily townread people for fun.” I don’t like this post at all. Sounds like an easy way to let the wolves off the hook.
#273 – “As said. I don't care if they're as weak as a nerd on first gym day. I want meat to tear my teeth into.” This post stands out on re-reading. It’s most likely a metaphor but we all know who has sharp teeth.
#392 – “Well, I haven't played in ages so I was down with whatever. Didn't bother me at all when I saw I was a wolf. Wait did I just say that out loud?” This is clearly supposed to be a joke but it might not be. LordArgon on CFC likes to remind people of the game he said he was wolfing on D1 but it took town 3 days to lynch him.
#644 – “I appreciate that my strongest townread is the first to join me claiming wolf. Viva la revelucion” Again claiming wolf
#645 – “I mean, I'd be a little egotistical to say none of that is AI ever for me. But I'll say that my previous meta as town was very open to making silly jokes. I actually got picked off as PR a few times because I had a bad habit of NOT being jokey when PR. That being said I'm also 6 years from my last game of mafia so who knows how terrible I've gotten at pretending to be town now.” This is the post that really pinged me yesterday. Pretending to be town?

I feel I have started to get quite good at spotting scumslips and of course the person says it was an accident, but in 2 out of 3 cases where I have spotted them that person turned out to be a wolf.

In summary, he has posted a lot but the majority of that has been jokey posts and poking the less active players (an easy tactic for the wolves). I also strongly think the “pretending to be town” comments is a scumslip.

Sometimes it is as easy as saying that if someone looks like a wolf and quacks like a wolf, they are a wolf.

I want to see how the new Gavial does later but am likely voting here

Also he is voting HK which is an easy out for the wolf team

[lost monkey]

Duskfall, Dolby and Lost Monkey once they show up in 12+ hours drowning in all the posts.

Lost monkey has been viewing thread like twice or three times so far.

The site is always open on my browser lol.

[lost monkey]

What do you think of Alison then?

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

Esooa subbed out lol.

btw why do you think esooa thought you were town?

[Wiml]

What do you think of Alison then?

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

Esooa subbed out lol.

damn, who replaced her?

Tim did!

[Wiml]

What do you think of Alison then?

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

Esooa subbed out lol.

btw why do you think esooa thought you were town?

She knows the weaknesses in my wolf game, pretty much.

[Wiml]

To expand on that a bit more: she knows my wolf meta is still pretty polarised and pretty much cleared me for meta reasons the last few games we played together.

We also mindmeld a lot as town and tend to play very similarly. I had her as almost lock town before she subbed out.

[EnderWiggin]

Ender’s ISO

Thread entry – seems quite relaxed and makes a joke

#230 – “I also like to arbitrarily townread people for fun.” I don’t like this post at all. Sounds like an easy way to let the wolves off the hook.
#273 – “As said. I don't care if they're as weak as a nerd on first gym day. I want meat to tear my teeth into.” This post stands out on re-reading. It’s most likely a metaphor but we all know who has sharp teeth.
#392 – “Well, I haven't played in ages so I was down with whatever. Didn't bother me at all when I saw I was a wolf. Wait did I just say that out loud?” This is clearly supposed to be a joke but it might not be. LordArgon on CFC likes to remind people of the game he said he was wolfing on D1 but it took town 3 days to lynch him.
#644 – “I appreciate that my strongest townread is the first to join me claiming wolf. Viva la revelucion” Again claiming wolf
#645 – “I mean, I'd be a little egotistical to say none of that is AI ever for me. But I'll say that my previous meta as town was very open to making silly jokes. I actually got picked off as PR a few times because I had a bad habit of NOT being jokey when PR. That being said I'm also 6 years from my last game of mafia so who knows how terrible I've gotten at pretending to be town now.” This is the post that really pinged me yesterday. Pretending to be town?

I feel I have started to get quite good at spotting scumslips and of course the person says it was an accident, but in 2 out of 3 cases where I have spotted them that person turned out to be a wolf.

In summary, he has posted a lot but the majority of that has been jokey posts and poking the less active players (an easy tactic for the wolves). I also strongly think the “pretending to be town” comments is a scumslip.

Sometimes it is as easy as saying that if someone looks like a wolf and quacks like a wolf, they are a wolf.

I want to see how the new Gavial does later but am likely voting here

Also he is voting HK which is an easy out for the wolf team

Alright, so first case on me since 2015, let's celebrate!

But honestly, I'm almost disappointed. There are shockingly easy ways to case me as jesting scum but this one really hurts because it's not even good.

1. I was anti-vote on HK until 3pclaim. Once he claims 3p we have to lynch him. I am reluctantly voting HK as mentioned previously. If you're using that as a point of evidence... Then I fear for the rest of your reads.

2. I have outed several solid reads and beliefs. While I have a lot of jokey posts, it's true, it's not like I'm not providing actual content, which is what wolves do jokey posts to do. If you actually want to sus me over this, here let me help. Try doing this instead: "A majority of his posts are jokey or singular reads. He hasn't provided a strong case on anyone, instead preferring to say "x is this role" which is an easy way out." There, that reads a little more accurately AND scummier.

3. #230 was a joke where I was insulting Alison saying she assumed someone was town until d4...

4. All my wolf references caught, excellent work. I mean I do them as both sides as you'll see after this game, but don't take my word for it. I just like to have fun, see?

5. If you're calling any of my wolf jokes as "scumslips" then I'm sorry to disappoint you, those were all fully intentional. No accidents there. Can you wolf-read me for jokingly claiming wolf? Sure. Go ahead. Be my guest, it's a four-course buffet.

[EnderWiggin]

To expand on that a bit more: she knows my wolf meta is still pretty polarised and pretty much cleared me for meta reasons the last few games we played together.

We also mindmeld a lot as town and tend to play very similarly. I had her as almost lock town before she subbed out.

So as long as you don't flip red I can be pretty happy with my D1 Esooa slot read? Excellent.

[Wiml]

To expand on that a bit more: she knows my wolf meta is still pretty polarised and pretty much cleared me for meta reasons the last few games we played together.

We also mindmeld a lot as town and tend to play very similarly. I had her as almost lock town before she subbed out.

So as long as you don't flip red I can be pretty happy with my D1 Esooa slot read? Excellent.

Yep! I'm feeling confident that slot is town (and I have a good track record with finding Esooa as town too).

[Wiml]

Also Wurzel accusing Ender of scumslipping is hilarious (and probably town-indicative, even though his case is short-sighted).

[EnderWiggin]

Also Wurzel accusing Ender of scumslipping is hilarious (and probably town-indicative, even though his case is short-sighted).

I'm leaning more town on it as well.

Though mildly insulted. =P

[EnderWiggin]

Though there IS the slight undercurrent of cherry-picking involved.

[Wiml]

Moving onto some other players, does anybody have a strong impression on Long Con / Nanook / KZA? Besides alison I don't remember many people talking about amy of them and they're all in my "mrrrrr" pile right now.

[Wiml]

I'm going to give all of the sub slots time to catch up I think.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm sheeping wurzel that case looks airtight to me

[falcon45ca]

I'm prepared to trust Wiml's shield on Wurzel for a bit and pursue other suspects. I expect regular progress reports on Wurzel's alignment.

Why is that?

[falcon45ca]

What do you think of Alison then?

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

Why are only those 3 of the 5 listed the one's you're curious about?

[lost monkey]

What do you think of Alison then?

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

Why are only those 3 of the 5 listed the one's you're curious about?

I have clearer reads on them than the other 3.

[falcon45ca]

What do you think of Alison then?

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

Why are only those 3 of the 5 listed the one's you're curious about?

I have clearer reads on them than the other 3.

Walk us thru your reads plz

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: LOST MONKEY] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

There's lack lustre, and then there's LoMo's ISO

[lost monkey]

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

Why are only those 3 of the 5 listed the one's you're curious about?

I have clearer reads on them than the other 3.

Walk us thru your reads plz

Did you miss my reads before and only commented on this because i asked esooa why she had you as town?

[Wiml]

There's lack lustre, and then there's LoMo's ISO

Tbf, they only started posting when I pinged them earlier.

I'm more concerned about somebody like KZA who has a fair number of posts but nothing memorable in their ISO at all.

[Don Wurzeloni]

Ender’s ISO

Thread entry – seems quite relaxed and makes a joke

#230 – “I also like to arbitrarily townread people for fun.” I don’t like this post at all. Sounds like an easy way to let the wolves off the hook.
#273 – “As said. I don't care if they're as weak as a nerd on first gym day. I want meat to tear my teeth into.” This post stands out on re-reading. It’s most likely a metaphor but we all know who has sharp teeth.
#392 – “Well, I haven't played in ages so I was down with whatever. Didn't bother me at all when I saw I was a wolf. Wait did I just say that out loud?” This is clearly supposed to be a joke but it might not be. LordArgon on CFC likes to remind people of the game he said he was wolfing on D1 but it took town 3 days to lynch him.
#644 – “I appreciate that my strongest townread is the first to join me claiming wolf. Viva la revelucion” Again claiming wolf
#645 – “I mean, I'd be a little egotistical to say none of that is AI ever for me. But I'll say that my previous meta as town was very open to making silly jokes. I actually got picked off as PR a few times because I had a bad habit of NOT being jokey when PR. That being said I'm also 6 years from my last game of mafia so who knows how terrible I've gotten at pretending to be town now.” This is the post that really pinged me yesterday. Pretending to be town?

I feel I have started to get quite good at spotting scumslips and of course the person says it was an accident, but in 2 out of 3 cases where I have spotted them that person turned out to be a wolf.

In summary, he has posted a lot but the majority of that has been jokey posts and poking the less active players (an easy tactic for the wolves). I also strongly think the “pretending to be town” comments is a scumslip.

Sometimes it is as easy as saying that if someone looks like a wolf and quacks like a wolf, they are a wolf.

I want to see how the new Gavial does later but am likely voting here

Also he is voting HK which is an easy out for the wolf team

Alright, so first case on me since 2015, let's celebrate!

But honestly, I'm almost disappointed. There are shockingly easy ways to case me as jesting scum but this one really hurts because it's not even good.

1. I was anti-vote on HK until 3pclaim. Once he claims 3p we have to lynch him. I am reluctantly voting HK as mentioned previously. If you're using that as a point of evidence... Then I fear for the rest of your reads.

2. I have outed several solid reads and beliefs. While I have a lot of jokey posts, it's true, it's not like I'm not providing actual content, which is what wolves do jokey posts to do. If you actually want to sus me over this, here let me help. Try doing this instead: "A majority of his posts are jokey or singular reads. He hasn't provided a strong case on anyone, instead preferring to say "x is this role" which is an easy way out." There, that reads a little more accurately AND scummier.

3. #230 was a joke where I was insulting Alison saying she assumed someone was town until d4...

4. All my wolf references caught, excellent work. I mean I do them as both sides as you'll see after this game, but don't take my word for it. I just like to have fun, see?

5. If you're calling any of my wolf jokes as "scumslips" then I'm sorry to disappoint you, those were all fully intentional. No accidents there. Can you wolf-read me for jokingly claiming wolf? Sure. Go ahead. Be my guest, it's a four-course buffet.

1) I don't think we should vote HK. If there are 4 wolves then I feel it is too risky to get rid of the 3p first. In particular, it is better to get a wolf today when all the strongest townies are still here (you don't want to be relying on weaker townies in the late game)
2) A helpful wolf! Thank you for doing my job for me.
3) Ok I'll let you off this point
4) Do you have any links to old games I can have a look at?
5) I think scumslips are very important. In my second game (Mario Mafia 2 on MU) I caught Dolby in a scumslip, on day 4 I think. Dolby managed to argue his way out of it and I let it go. Dolby turned out to be a wolf and they won at F5

[sig]

Imagine ending in F3 with Dolby/Ace and the slot in which one of the heads literally got six-months banned because of the game.

Wait what, bans drama info please?

[sig]

I'm wary of scum slips I never get lynched when I make real ones then always get lynched when I make fake ones.

[sig]

Don, Alison and an Inactive are my three mafia reads.

Runner up is everyone else playing so post game i can say I was right.

[Don Wurzeloni]

I'm wary of scum slips I never get lynched when I make real ones then always get lynched when I make fake ones.

Why would you make fake ones?

Does the UK in your avatar refer to the UK or something else?

[sig]

Ender’s ISO

Thread entry – seems quite relaxed and makes a joke

#230 – “I also like to arbitrarily townread people for fun.” I don’t like this post at all. Sounds like an easy way to let the wolves off the hook.
#273 – “As said. I don't care if they're as weak as a nerd on first gym day. I want meat to tear my teeth into.” This post stands out on re-reading. It’s most likely a metaphor but we all know who has sharp teeth.
#392 – “Well, I haven't played in ages so I was down with whatever. Didn't bother me at all when I saw I was a wolf. Wait did I just say that out loud?” This is clearly supposed to be a joke but it might not be. LordArgon on CFC likes to remind people of the game he said he was wolfing on D1 but it took town 3 days to lynch him.
#644 – “I appreciate that my strongest townread is the first to join me claiming wolf. Viva la revelucion” Again claiming wolf
#645 – “I mean, I'd be a little egotistical to say none of that is AI ever for me. But I'll say that my previous meta as town was very open to making silly jokes. I actually got picked off as PR a few times because I had a bad habit of NOT being jokey when PR. That being said I'm also 6 years from my last game of mafia so who knows how terrible I've gotten at pretending to be town now.” This is the post that really pinged me yesterday. Pretending to be town?

I feel I have started to get quite good at spotting scumslips and of course the person says it was an accident, but in 2 out of 3 cases where I have spotted them that person turned out to be a wolf.

In summary, he has posted a lot but the majority of that has been jokey posts and poking the less active players (an easy tactic for the wolves). I also strongly think the “pretending to be town” comments is a scumslip.

Sometimes it is as easy as saying that if someone looks like a wolf and quacks like a wolf, they are a wolf.

I want to see how the new Gavial does later but am likely voting here

Also he is voting HK which is an easy out for the wolf team

Alright, so first case on me since 2015, let's celebrate!

But honestly, I'm almost disappointed. There are shockingly easy ways to case me as jesting scum but this one really hurts because it's not even good.

1. I was anti-vote on HK until 3pclaim. Once he claims 3p we have to lynch him. I am reluctantly voting HK as mentioned previously. If you're using that as a point of evidence... Then I fear for the rest of your reads.

2. I have outed several solid reads and beliefs. While I have a lot of jokey posts, it's true, it's not like I'm not providing actual content, which is what wolves do jokey posts to do. If you actually want to sus me over this, here let me help. Try doing this instead: "A majority of his posts are jokey or singular reads. He hasn't provided a strong case on anyone, instead preferring to say "x is this role" which is an easy way out." There, that reads a little more accurately AND scummier.

3. #230 was a joke where I was insulting Alison saying she assumed someone was town until d4...

4. All my wolf references caught, excellent work. I mean I do them as both sides as you'll see after this game, but don't take my word for it. I just like to have fun, see?

5. If you're calling any of my wolf jokes as "scumslips" then I'm sorry to disappoint you, those were all fully intentional. No accidents there. Can you wolf-read me for jokingly claiming wolf? Sure. Go ahead. Be my guest, it's a four-course buffet.

Or Ender.

[Don Wurzeloni]

Don, Alison and an Inactive are my three mafia reads.

Runner up is everyone else playing so post game i can say I was right.

Why do you wolf read Alison?

[sig]

I'm wary of scum slips I never get lynched when I make real ones then always get lynched when I make fake ones.

Why would you make fake ones?

Does the UK in your avatar refer to the UK or something else?

If by the UK you mean University of Kentucky then yes. Otherwise nope.

Fake is probably the wrong word, more like people think I've made scum slips and they aren't and i get lynched.

[Wiml]

I challenge anybody to look at KZA's 50+ post ISO and find me a something that meaningfully contributes to the game.

[Wiml]

Ender’s ISO

Thread entry – seems quite relaxed and makes a joke

#230 – “I also like to arbitrarily townread people for fun.” I don’t like this post at all. Sounds like an easy way to let the wolves off the hook.
#273 – “As said. I don't care if they're as weak as a nerd on first gym day. I want meat to tear my teeth into.” This post stands out on re-reading. It’s most likely a metaphor but we all know who has sharp teeth.
#392 – “Well, I haven't played in ages so I was down with whatever. Didn't bother me at all when I saw I was a wolf. Wait did I just say that out loud?” This is clearly supposed to be a joke but it might not be. LordArgon on CFC likes to remind people of the game he said he was wolfing on D1 but it took town 3 days to lynch him.
#644 – “I appreciate that my strongest townread is the first to join me claiming wolf. Viva la revelucion” Again claiming wolf
#645 – “I mean, I'd be a little egotistical to say none of that is AI ever for me. But I'll say that my previous meta as town was very open to making silly jokes. I actually got picked off as PR a few times because I had a bad habit of NOT being jokey when PR. That being said I'm also 6 years from my last game of mafia so who knows how terrible I've gotten at pretending to be town now.” This is the post that really pinged me yesterday. Pretending to be town?

I feel I have started to get quite good at spotting scumslips and of course the person says it was an accident, but in 2 out of 3 cases where I have spotted them that person turned out to be a wolf.

In summary, he has posted a lot but the majority of that has been jokey posts and poking the less active players (an easy tactic for the wolves). I also strongly think the “pretending to be town” comments is a scumslip.

Sometimes it is as easy as saying that if someone looks like a wolf and quacks like a wolf, they are a wolf.

I want to see how the new Gavial does later but am likely voting here

Also he is voting HK which is an easy out for the wolf team

Alright, so first case on me since 2015, let's celebrate!

But honestly, I'm almost disappointed. There are shockingly easy ways to case me as jesting scum but this one really hurts because it's not even good.

1. I was anti-vote on HK until 3pclaim. Once he claims 3p we have to lynch him. I am reluctantly voting HK as mentioned previously. If you're using that as a point of evidence... Then I fear for the rest of your reads.

2. I have outed several solid reads and beliefs. While I have a lot of jokey posts, it's true, it's not like I'm not providing actual content, which is what wolves do jokey posts to do. If you actually want to sus me over this, here let me help. Try doing this instead: "A majority of his posts are jokey or singular reads. He hasn't provided a strong case on anyone, instead preferring to say "x is this role" which is an easy way out." There, that reads a little more accurately AND scummier.

3. #230 was a joke where I was insulting Alison saying she assumed someone was town until d4...

4. All my wolf references caught, excellent work. I mean I do them as both sides as you'll see after this game, but don't take my word for it. I just like to have fun, see?

5. If you're calling any of my wolf jokes as "scumslips" then I'm sorry to disappoint you, those were all fully intentional. No accidents there. Can you wolf-read me for jokingly claiming wolf? Sure. Go ahead. Be my guest, it's a four-course buffet.

Or Ender.

Do you have any particular thoughts on the case or Ender's response?

[Don Wurzeloni]

I challenge anybody to look at KZA's 50+ post ISO and find me a something that meaningfully contributes to the game.

Let me have a go.

[KZA]

I challenge anybody to look at KZA's 50+ post ISO and find me a something that meaningfully contributes to the game.

I see you lack sufficient meta on me

[falcon45ca]

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

Why are only those 3 of the 5 listed the one's you're curious about?

I have clearer reads on them than the other 3.

Walk us thru your reads plz

Did you miss my reads before and only commented on this because i asked esooa why she had you as town?

Your reads literally just say "player x is town", there's no real fleshing out of your takes at all

[Don Wurzeloni]

I challenge anybody to look at KZA's 50+ post ISO and find me a something that meaningfully contributes to the game.

Let me have a go.

There's definitely not much to go on. The big drinking session probably didn't help!

@KZA why do you secretly town read Ender? Secret reads aren't much use to us.

[Wiml]

I challenge anybody to look at KZA's 50+ post ISO and find me a something that meaningfully contributes to the game.

I see you lack sufficient meta on me

I remember having a light town read on you early on in the last game we played together.

[Wiml]

I challenge anybody to look at KZA's 50+ post ISO and find me a something that meaningfully contributes to the game.

I see you lack sufficient meta on me

I remember having a light town read on you early on in the last game we played together.

Would you mind linking some relevant meta here please?

[falcon45ca]

Elder and gavial both seem fine as well, town lean. Hollowkat definitely don't mind lynching.

Creature reaction to being forced to make reads is fine, leaning town there.

What do you think of Alison then?

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

What do you think of Alison then?

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

Esooa subbed out lol.

damn, who replaced her?

Duskfall, Dolby and Lost Monkey once they show up in 12+ hours drowning in all the posts.

Lost monkey has been viewing thread like twice or three times so far.

The site is always open on my browser lol.

What do you think of Alison then?

nothing

Do you have anything not a nothing?

falcon town, you town lean, gavial town, wiml town lean, lc town lean

why are falcon, wiml and lc town reads?

Esooa subbed out lol.

btw why do you think esooa thought you were town?

The only read you give any info on is Creature's reaction to being forced to give reads, and the way it's phrased is almost like you disagree with Creature being pressured

[hollowkatt]

Imagine ending in F3 with Dolby/Ace and the slot in which one of the heads literally got six-months banned because of the game.

Wait what, bans drama info please?

if you're really interested there's a bans thread on MU you can review. The gist is that one of the heads in that game was posting things that were inappropriate for a game thread

[Creature]

Imagine ending in F3 with Dolby/Ace and the slot in which one of the heads literally got six-months banned because of the game.

Wait what, bans drama info please?

if you're really interested there's a bans thread on MU you can review. The gist is that one of the heads in that game was posting things that were inappropriate for a game thread

You mean the guy posting furry porn in-thread?