Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:16 pm
anyways i don't rly tr lime and imma keep my vote here for the time being
i did entertain the thought of him possibly being tmi'd as town due to all the dissent for my vote
but he's still kinda scummy and he may just be in there deeper than ppl think
i also fos ender but i'm gonna try and not be a confbiased pos here just because i feel like i'm on to something
I can't tell if you're reading me here in good faith or not. You're saying that my vote on Illario was based off of bad reasoning, when what I've been saying IS true.
maybe so but the timing of the vote was potentially calculated and the rest of ur posts don't ooze of town, like i'd expect them to if u were town
i'm not locked on this, it's just where i'mma focus for now
i feel like people have this idea that if brad doesn't get angry and all caps and flame or something then he's wolf because that makes him obvious town and i know he's trying to be better and stop that so i'm like...... mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr it annoys me because how is he actually wolfy by play at all?
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:07 pm
Alison have you played with ilario before? I think this may be stylistic clash between you and him because this is how he's like as town imo
same with ilario on Alison
Suppose I accept that this level of emotional discomfort and rejection of logic is typical of him as town.
What has he done that's actually townie?
lmaooooo where did i reject logic?
I explained to you why pretending like LC is lock town early on is something that is unsupported by actual evidence and that would only be done by wolves with TMI. You attempted to brush this off by explaining that at least one townie has done it. This is an illogical argument because proving that at least one townie has done something does not stop it from being >rand wolf. You have also not engaged with the actual logic underpinning the read.
where did i locktown him?
eh i feel like this is a circular argument we're having, because youre so convinced your argument is concrete, when i know fmpov it has no basis because i KNOW im town. the actual evidence was my previous experience with lime, why is my experience unsupported when alexas reasoning follows the exact same basis?
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:20 pm
i feel like people have this idea that if brad doesn't get angry and all caps and flame or something then he's wolf because that makes him obvious town and i know he's trying to be better and stop that so i'm like...... mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr it annoys me because how is he actually wolfy by play at all?
that's not true
i'm more waiting for something that really challenges the thread from him
i haven't rlly seen that just yet and it's slightly alarming
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:20 pm
i feel like people have this idea that if brad doesn't get angry and all caps and flame or something then he's wolf because that makes him obvious town and i know he's trying to be better and stop that so i'm like...... mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr it annoys me because how is he actually wolfy by play at all?
It's early day 1 and I know I'll be obvious town as the game goes on. Typically people who are good/can read me will find me town as the game goes on.
But yeah I'm actively NOT trying to rage and get better at not getting annoyed because of my MU ban.
let me save you the time, you should probably accuse me of omgus, fencesitting and i think by that time you would have exhausted every generic read in the book lol.
Not a buzzword. Every opinion you stated in the quoted post was qualified.
my very first post in the game was 4 reads. was that hedgey?
No, which was why I didn't call it hedgey. I called another of your posts hedgey.
lmaooo
so why is it unreasonble for me to have a hedgey opinion 10 pages into the game? like if all my posts are hedgey then sure. if i knew everyones alignment for sure 10 pages into mafia id have gotten bored of this game a very long time ago.
fwiw in a world ur town, which im starting to think you MIGHT be, i used to play just like you. coming straight into the game tunneling reads from page 1. ive veered away from it because its bad for thread health and all you achieve is that you put the entire focus on two slots and give everyone else a pass to slide under the radar in a world where we're tvt. all you've achieved is hinder both our processes in evaluating other slots because we've been so focussed in a circular argument that seems to be based on a difference of perspective more than anything else.
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:20 pm
i feel like people have this idea that if brad doesn't get angry and all caps and flame or something then he's wolf because that makes him obvious town and i know he's trying to be better and stop that so i'm like...... mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr it annoys me because how is he actually wolfy by play at all?
It's early day 1 and I know I'll be obvious town as the game goes on. Typically people who are good/can read me will find me town as the game goes on.
But yeah I'm actively NOT trying to rage and get better at not getting annoyed because of my MU ban.
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:26 pm
Also don't fucking force me to rage either, that's completely fucked up and I don't want to be doing that shit.
fwiw you are already obvious town to me
unless i'm wrong then never again
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:20 pm
i feel like people have this idea that if brad doesn't get angry and all caps and flame or something then he's wolf because that makes him obvious town and i know he's trying to be better and stop that so i'm like...... mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr it annoys me because how is he actually wolfy by play at all?
It's early day 1 and I know I'll be obvious town as the game goes on. Typically people who are good/can read me will find me town as the game goes on.
But yeah I'm actively NOT trying to rage and get better at not getting annoyed because of my MU ban.
Sooooo yeah don't give me a town!rage meta because that's kinda fucked up.
Not talking to Alexa specifically because she understands, but talking to others about this.
yeah mood
i don't like to say this because it gives people expectations but in all my past games i'm obvious town by like d3/4
I know I'm putting this on myself too because of how I've acted in games. But I've gotten that read in a past game from someone else and it got to me.
It's like you with the whole "I expect better" read. Like it's a bullshit scale to go off of.
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:30 pm
man i get the urge to vote alexa every time she makes a scummy post but then she makes 2 towny posts afterwards lol
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:30 pm
man i get the urge to vote alexa every time she makes a scummy post but then she makes 2 towny posts afterwards lol
I might actually be oblivious to this shit actually because I rarely scumread her posts, but I haven't really been wrong.
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:30 pm
man i get the urge to vote alexa every time she makes a scummy post but then she makes 2 towny posts afterwards lol
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:30 pm
man i get the urge to vote alexa every time she makes a scummy post but then she makes 2 towny posts afterwards lol
so why is it unreasonble for me to have a hedgey opinion 10 pages into the game? like if all my posts are hedgey then sure. if i knew everyones alignment for sure 10 pages into mafia id have gotten bored of this game a very long time ago.
fwiw in a world ur town, which im starting to think you MIGHT be, i used to play just like you. coming straight into the game tunneling reads from page 1. ive veered away from it because its bad for thread health and all you achieve is that you put the entire focus on two slots and give everyone else a pass to slide under the radar in a world where we're tvt. all you've achieved is hinder both our processes in evaluating other slots because we've been so focussed in a circular argument that seems to be based on a difference of perspective more than anything else.
If you come into the game firing 4 reads out the barrel and then suddenly make a mega hedge post later on that is cause for concern.
I find that my playstyle is extremely effective and does not allow scum to slip pass the radar at all. I have achieved pretty good success as town with my style of play. Perhaps you find yourself unable to focus on anything else, or constantly degenerating the threadstate, when you attack someone early on. But I suffer from no such malady.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:26 pm
Also don't fucking force me to rage either, that's completely fucked up and I don't want to be doing that shit.
fwiw you are already obvious town to me
unless i'm wrong then never again
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:27 pm
k now brad's starting to towntell but i just wanna see some spicy takes from him this game
It'll get there, I'm building my town core this game but I'm being a bit more careful.
i don't rly associate town!brad w/ being careful
u tend to be pretty loose when ur town and u just out ur thoughts the moment u have them
Well I've had recent games where I've built a towncore that's fucked with mafia members in it. So instead of rushing to conclusions I'm trying to not put town in a shit situation after I die.
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:26 pm
Also don't fucking force me to rage either, that's completely fucked up and I don't want to be doing that shit.
fwiw you are already obvious town to me
unless i'm wrong then never again
but this one is slightly weird
whenever i make a read on someone being obvious town i feel good about it but then a slight ping of paranoia so yeah
so why is it unreasonble for me to have a hedgey opinion 10 pages into the game? like if all my posts are hedgey then sure. if i knew everyones alignment for sure 10 pages into mafia id have gotten bored of this game a very long time ago.
fwiw in a world ur town, which im starting to think you MIGHT be, i used to play just like you. coming straight into the game tunneling reads from page 1. ive veered away from it because its bad for thread health and all you achieve is that you put the entire focus on two slots and give everyone else a pass to slide under the radar in a world where we're tvt. all you've achieved is hinder both our processes in evaluating other slots because we've been so focussed in a circular argument that seems to be based on a difference of perspective more than anything else.
If you come into the game firing 4 reads out the barrel and then suddenly make a mega hedge post later on that is cause for concern.
I find that my playstyle is extremely effective and does not allow scum to slip pass the radar at all. I have achieved pretty good success as town with my style of play. Perhaps you find yourself unable to focus on anything else, or constantly degenerating the threadstate, when you attack someone early on. But I suffer from no such malady.
so why is it unreasonble for me to have a hedgey opinion 10 pages into the game? like if all my posts are hedgey then sure. if i knew everyones alignment for sure 10 pages into mafia id have gotten bored of this game a very long time ago.
fwiw in a world ur town, which im starting to think you MIGHT be, i used to play just like you. coming straight into the game tunneling reads from page 1. ive veered away from it because its bad for thread health and all you achieve is that you put the entire focus on two slots and give everyone else a pass to slide under the radar in a world where we're tvt. all you've achieved is hinder both our processes in evaluating other slots because we've been so focussed in a circular argument that seems to be based on a difference of perspective more than anything else.
If you come into the game firing 4 reads out the barrel and then suddenly make a mega hedge post later on that is cause for concern.
I find that my playstyle is extremely effective and does not allow scum to slip pass the radar at all. I have achieved pretty good success as town with my style of play. Perhaps you find yourself unable to focus on anything else, or constantly degenerating the threadstate, when you attack someone early on. But I suffer from no such malady.
the funny thing is i townread ilario harder from the way you're describing his game because it's spot on of what he does as town lmao (and i haven't bbeen reading his actual posts that closely)
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:26 pm
Also don't fucking force me to rage either, that's completely fucked up and I don't want to be doing that shit.
fwiw you are already obvious town to me
unless i'm wrong then never again
but this one is slightly weird
whenever i make a read on someone being obvious town i feel good about it but then a slight ping of paranoia so yeah
ok i can relate
town core: me, alison, ale, ilario, tony
ur halfway into the towncore, u need to do a little bit more to get the "xa" in there
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:26 pm
Also don't fucking force me to rage either, that's completely fucked up and I don't want to be doing that shit.
Nobody is forcing you to do anything.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:26 pm
Also don't fucking force me to rage either, that's completely fucked up and I don't want to be doing that shit.
Nobody is forcing you to do anything.
I know they're not. I'm just afraid of someone in a future game deciding to go at me and get me to rage in order to get me to town tell.
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:26 pm
Also don't fucking force me to rage either, that's completely fucked up and I don't want to be doing that shit.
fwiw you are already obvious town to me
unless i'm wrong then never again
but this one is slightly weird
whenever i make a read on someone being obvious town i feel good about it but then a slight ping of paranoia so yeah
ok i can relate
town core: me, alison, ale, ilario, tony
ur halfway into the towncore, u need to do a little bit more to get the "xa" in there
what got alison in there so strongly?
i'm finding her to be towny but not to ilario levels
so why is it unreasonble for me to have a hedgey opinion 10 pages into the game? like if all my posts are hedgey then sure. if i knew everyones alignment for sure 10 pages into mafia id have gotten bored of this game a very long time ago.
fwiw in a world ur town, which im starting to think you MIGHT be, i used to play just like you. coming straight into the game tunneling reads from page 1. ive veered away from it because its bad for thread health and all you achieve is that you put the entire focus on two slots and give everyone else a pass to slide under the radar in a world where we're tvt. all you've achieved is hinder both our processes in evaluating other slots because we've been so focussed in a circular argument that seems to be based on a difference of perspective more than anything else.
If you come into the game firing 4 reads out the barrel and then suddenly make a mega hedge post later on that is cause for concern.
I find that my playstyle is extremely effective and does not allow scum to slip pass the radar at all. I have achieved pretty good success as town with my style of play. Perhaps you find yourself unable to focus on anything else, or constantly degenerating the threadstate, when you attack someone early on. But I suffer from no such malady.
the funny thing is i townread ilario harder from the way you're describing his game because it's spot on of what he does as town lmao (and i haven't bbeen reading his actual posts that closely)
Why does he do that as town?
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
so why is it unreasonble for me to have a hedgey opinion 10 pages into the game? like if all my posts are hedgey then sure. if i knew everyones alignment for sure 10 pages into mafia id have gotten bored of this game a very long time ago.
fwiw in a world ur town, which im starting to think you MIGHT be, i used to play just like you. coming straight into the game tunneling reads from page 1. ive veered away from it because its bad for thread health and all you achieve is that you put the entire focus on two slots and give everyone else a pass to slide under the radar in a world where we're tvt. all you've achieved is hinder both our processes in evaluating other slots because we've been so focussed in a circular argument that seems to be based on a difference of perspective more than anything else.
If you come into the game firing 4 reads out the barrel and then suddenly make a mega hedge post later on that is cause for concern.
I find that my playstyle is extremely effective and does not allow scum to slip pass the radar at all. I have achieved pretty good success as town with my style of play. Perhaps you find yourself unable to focus on anything else, or constantly degenerating the threadstate, when you attack someone early on. But I suffer from no such malady.
also, if you're town you already disproved your own argument with how you've went about interacting with my slot. you have been unable to focus on anything else with regards to my slot, because all you were doing as labelling everything i did as scummy instead of trying to consider why i would be doing what i did as town. so yeah in a way, you just proved my point on why tunneling asap on d1 is bad.
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:26 pm
Also don't fucking force me to rage either, that's completely fucked up and I don't want to be doing that shit.
fwiw you are already obvious town to me
unless i'm wrong then never again
but this one is slightly weird
whenever i make a read on someone being obvious town i feel good about it but then a slight ping of paranoia so yeah
ok i can relate
town core: me, alison, ale, ilario, tony
ur halfway into the towncore, u need to do a little bit more to get the "xa" in there
what got alison in there so strongly?
i'm finding her to be towny but not to ilario levels
so why is it unreasonble for me to have a hedgey opinion 10 pages into the game? like if all my posts are hedgey then sure. if i knew everyones alignment for sure 10 pages into mafia id have gotten bored of this game a very long time ago.
fwiw in a world ur town, which im starting to think you MIGHT be, i used to play just like you. coming straight into the game tunneling reads from page 1. ive veered away from it because its bad for thread health and all you achieve is that you put the entire focus on two slots and give everyone else a pass to slide under the radar in a world where we're tvt. all you've achieved is hinder both our processes in evaluating other slots because we've been so focussed in a circular argument that seems to be based on a difference of perspective more than anything else.
If you come into the game firing 4 reads out the barrel and then suddenly make a mega hedge post later on that is cause for concern.
I find that my playstyle is extremely effective and does not allow scum to slip pass the radar at all. I have achieved pretty good success as town with my style of play. Perhaps you find yourself unable to focus on anything else, or constantly degenerating the threadstate, when you attack someone early on. But I suffer from no such malady.
the funny thing is i townread ilario harder from the way you're describing his game because it's spot on of what he does as town lmao (and i haven't bbeen reading his actual posts that closely)
Why does he do that as town?
as town he is very like... stream-of-conscious
so he will out a ton of reads and then like reconsider/question then and talk about it and all of it is a complete lack of caring about his image or progression, he'll just say what's on his read. so the way you described it anyway reminded me of his towngame
so why is it unreasonble for me to have a hedgey opinion 10 pages into the game? like if all my posts are hedgey then sure. if i knew everyones alignment for sure 10 pages into mafia id have gotten bored of this game a very long time ago.
fwiw in a world ur town, which im starting to think you MIGHT be, i used to play just like you. coming straight into the game tunneling reads from page 1. ive veered away from it because its bad for thread health and all you achieve is that you put the entire focus on two slots and give everyone else a pass to slide under the radar in a world where we're tvt. all you've achieved is hinder both our processes in evaluating other slots because we've been so focussed in a circular argument that seems to be based on a difference of perspective more than anything else.
If you come into the game firing 4 reads out the barrel and then suddenly make a mega hedge post later on that is cause for concern.
I find that my playstyle is extremely effective and does not allow scum to slip pass the radar at all. I have achieved pretty good success as town with my style of play. Perhaps you find yourself unable to focus on anything else, or constantly degenerating the threadstate, when you attack someone early on. But I suffer from no such malady.
the funny thing is i townread ilario harder from the way you're describing his game because it's spot on of what he does as town lmao (and i haven't bbeen reading his actual posts that closely)
Why does he do that as town?
because people tend to have very polarized reactions to this playstyle and it helps generate content which makes reading other slots easier. id argue the game was a lot more rvs-ish/NAI until i started posting.
so why is it unreasonble for me to have a hedgey opinion 10 pages into the game? like if all my posts are hedgey then sure. if i knew everyones alignment for sure 10 pages into mafia id have gotten bored of this game a very long time ago.
fwiw in a world ur town, which im starting to think you MIGHT be, i used to play just like you. coming straight into the game tunneling reads from page 1. ive veered away from it because its bad for thread health and all you achieve is that you put the entire focus on two slots and give everyone else a pass to slide under the radar in a world where we're tvt. all you've achieved is hinder both our processes in evaluating other slots because we've been so focussed in a circular argument that seems to be based on a difference of perspective more than anything else.
If you come into the game firing 4 reads out the barrel and then suddenly make a mega hedge post later on that is cause for concern.
I find that my playstyle is extremely effective and does not allow scum to slip pass the radar at all. I have achieved pretty good success as town with my style of play. Perhaps you find yourself unable to focus on anything else, or constantly degenerating the threadstate, when you attack someone early on. But I suffer from no such malady.
also, if you're town you already disproved your own argument with how you've went about interacting with my slot. you have been unable to focus on anything else with regards to my slot, because all you were doing as labelling everything i did as scummy instead of trying to consider why i would be doing what i did as town. so yeah in a way, you just proved my point on why tunneling asap on d1 is bad.
fwiw i feel like if me/you/alison are t/t/t this is like the lime matrix game (remember i told you alison reminded me of sara w/being hit or miss tunnel !!!), and it's a situation where she's tunneling you because it's your first time playing and she doesn't know your style yet, she can very very easily be a villager
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:03 pm
ok but what is wolfy is that he's not gonna pay any mind to the slot until then, whereas everyone else is closely looking at him. some with town stances, some with scum stances.
Where did I say I'll pay no mind to it?
I said:
a. He hasn't locked himself town yet (true)
b. I'm not going to go after him until d2/3 when he'll either be obvious town or obvious scum.
Never said I'm ignoring him until then what.
We can only trust the truth. Everything else is a lie.
so why is it unreasonble for me to have a hedgey opinion 10 pages into the game? like if all my posts are hedgey then sure. if i knew everyones alignment for sure 10 pages into mafia id have gotten bored of this game a very long time ago.
fwiw in a world ur town, which im starting to think you MIGHT be, i used to play just like you. coming straight into the game tunneling reads from page 1. ive veered away from it because its bad for thread health and all you achieve is that you put the entire focus on two slots and give everyone else a pass to slide under the radar in a world where we're tvt. all you've achieved is hinder both our processes in evaluating other slots because we've been so focussed in a circular argument that seems to be based on a difference of perspective more than anything else.
If you come into the game firing 4 reads out the barrel and then suddenly make a mega hedge post later on that is cause for concern.
I find that my playstyle is extremely effective and does not allow scum to slip pass the radar at all. I have achieved pretty good success as town with my style of play. Perhaps you find yourself unable to focus on anything else, or constantly degenerating the threadstate, when you attack someone early on. But I suffer from no such malady.
also, if you're town you already disproved your own argument with how you've went about interacting with my slot. you have been unable to focus on anything else with regards to my slot, because all you were doing as labelling everything i did as scummy instead of trying to consider why i would be doing what i did as town. so yeah in a way, you just proved my point on why tunneling asap on d1 is bad.
fwiw i feel like if me/you/alison are t/t/t this is like the lime matrix game (remember i told you alison reminded me of sara w/being hit or miss tunnel !!!), and it's a situation where she's tunneling you because it's your first time playing and she doesn't know your style yet, she can very very easily be a villager
i am starting to lean on her just being a tunneled villager
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:35 pm
lol ill take your word for it
talk me through your reads on everyone else atm
I think Alexa is townie. EnderWiggin is null which might actually be concerning because he usually makes a big splash when he is town. I have been on board with Esooa and Nanook's reads of Mac and I don't think he's a target they would try to either misexe or bus if they were scum which means they are most likely town. LC as explained is self resolving. I think Transcend is slightly scummy because I don't understand any of his reads, but he seems committed to towncoring me which means he will dig himself into a whole if he is scum attempting a pocket.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:03 pm
ok but what is wolfy is that he's not gonna pay any mind to the slot until then, whereas everyone else is closely looking at him. some with town stances, some with scum stances.
Where did I say I'll pay no mind to it?
I said:
a. He hasn't locked himself town yet (true)
b. I'm not going to go after him until d2/3 when he'll either be obvious town or obvious scum.
Never said I'm ignoring him until then what.
a yea
b fine? i guess? idk why you would restrict urself to not voting someone for one day..
