Bonk Mafia (TOWN WINS)

[Dyson sphere]

Like all I really need you to do is solve Nanook and maybe Tutuu and we gucci beyond that.

Why do you need him to solve me

When you're mafia I can't?

Ok you make a reasonable point

But when I'm town he can't so

Maybe between you theres a God tier nanook reader

but even when you're town it takes me at least 2-3 phases to figure it out... prior to that I'm just lying

I looked for anyone admitting they're mafia and this was the closest I could find. Didn't somebody say "I'm wolf" or something like that at some time?

[Master Radishes]

In an admittedly small sample size, Dunya has never townread me regardless of my alignment. Even in CoV D1, when everyone else was doing it, Dunya was basically the only person still hesitant (iirc it was because I was *too* clean or something).

So it was really weirding me out to see her give me such an easy TR in this game. This is much better.

[dunya]

rondo
falcon
scotty

i dont think all three of them are mafia, but i am 100% sure mafia lies within those three.

don't like the whole reaction of scotty, i dunno why jay moved off him for silly reasons, but undermining my genuine case on him the way he did is defo something wolves have done with me before just cos i can't articulate my suspicions in big shiny cases like most ccan

falcon feels like the mischop if thread activity is anything to go by.

if falcon is town, it could mean rondo and scotty are both w. or one of them still is. if falcon is mafia, then rondo is likely town based on voting patterns i think.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’m wasting one of my three last posts to say that town cohesion is currently bad, and the course is not set in this game for a town victory. That applies almost regardless of who populates the mafia team.

@Dyson sphere please explain your read on me, even if just briefly.

Folks please be mindful that you’re not allowed to vote in the poll without calling it in the thread. It’s a game rule. @MacDougall

For that reason it’s important to keep at least some posts available just for vote movement. I have two more posts and may only use them for that purpose.

[Master Radishes]

Scotty feels like he's been posting more to have a presence than because he has a direction to his game. He feels...disconnected, a little bit, from the goings on of the game. I have no qualms about flipping that slot.

[Dyson sphere]

Did you guys ever have a SARS-CoV-2 themed mafia game? That would be a fun theme. You should have done that in 2020. But if you didn't, even better: now with variants!

[Dyson sphere]

I could be the delta variant

[Master Radishes]

I also have issues with Scotty's vote movement more recently, but I have things to do and don't want to waste five minutes trying to find the right words to explain the niggling feeling I have about it.

Everyone just come back on the Scotty wagon with me.

[Master Radishes]

Did you guys ever have a SARS-CoV-2 themed mafia game? That would be a fun theme. You should have done that in 2020. But if you didn't, even better: now with variants!

Sure did. Nanook and I were the mafia in that game. I think Nanook won it in the end.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Sure. [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

@dunya my doubt stems from the implication that neither of us correctly interpreted Scotty when he “shaded” you and Lime Coke. If he wasn’t being sarcastic then he was literally agreeing with you, not shading you.

I think you and Radishes are town anyway and will just glomp. I have one more post. I might vote Dyson with it if he can’t show me his last few reads aren’t completely fake.

[dunya]

guys we have over 3hrs left. realx and preserve those votes

i'm currently in scotty's iso and will DO A BIGGER post by post of what is ok and what is meh and what is red flag

to justify my very unbiased vote on him and also i would feel ridiculously guilty for mischopping him after he signed up at my call lol

[falcon45ca]

Like all I really need you to do is solve Nanook and maybe Tutuu and we gucci beyond that.

Why do you need him to solve me

When you're mafia I can't?

Ok you make a reasonable point

But when I'm town he can't so

Maybe between you theres a God tier nanook reader

but even when you're town it takes me at least 2-3 phases to figure it out... prior to that I'm just lying

I looked for anyone admitting they're mafia and this was the closest I could find. Didn't somebody say "I'm wolf" or something like that at some time?

Are you seriously hunting only players who openly admit to being wolves in the thread?

[dunya]

In an admittedly small sample size, Dunya has never townread me regardless of my alignment. Even in CoV D1, when everyone else was doing it, Dunya was basically the only person still hesitant (iirc it was because I was *too* clean or something).

So it was really weirding me out to see her give me such an easy TR in this game. This is much better.

@Dyson sphere why do you suspect Jay?



[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

[Dyson sphere]

but sir rondo has no leash at all where is the mafia agenda

Stop looking for "agenda", in my questionably humble opinion -- at least on Day 1. Players are town or they aren't. Most mafia don't have an agenda beyond "oh my god avoid votes eeeeek"

This was the first time I scumread you, because you think like scum, so that means you are scum.

Scotty seems towny to me at this early stage. Tutuu seemed good too but that jester comment is actually saying nothing now that you point it out.

I'm content to watch that (I assume) joke vote dangle like a free pantsless man watching a sunset. See, I like Tony so far too.

Nanook is tentatively in the town pile to me for the % town\scum bit. I know it could just be a bunch of bullshit but interactions off it felt legit.

motel room seems okay. Posts like these give me the vibe of a player trying his best to involve himself in the hunt without an interest in looking like anything especially town. They're just little takes softly dropped into the thread like birdie feathers as he comes upon them.

This was the second time I thought you were scum because I didn't quite understand what you were saying here. In games of mafia everyone is trying best to be involved in the hunt, so how are those posts different from any other posts in this thread? And then I remembered the games of mafia I played before and how frustrated I got when I didn't quite understand what everyone was saying, so I had the idea: maybe you're scum and now I finally have a scumread.

So the town read on rondo would be for his apparent lack of care of how he is percieved it seems

that is my current stance yes

I think there's room for Rondo to want to look like he doesn't care how he is perceived, if you knawmsaying.

This is where I thought, yeah, I don't care either, so now I'm gonna pick you Jay, because apparently, I've gotta pick somebody.

I’m wasting one of my three last posts to say that town cohesion is currently bad, and the course is not set in this game for a town victory. That applies almost regardless of who populates the mafia team.

@Dyson sphere please explain your read on me, even if just briefly.

Folks please be mindful that you’re not allowed to vote in the poll without calling it in the thread. It’s a game rule. @MacDougall

For that reason it’s important to keep at least some posts available just for vote movement. I have two more posts and may only use them for that purpose.

There, I gave you an explanation. I thought lime coke played pretty townie like though. Maybe he is just better at playing scum than you are, Jay.

[Dyson sphere]

Like all I really need you to do is solve Nanook and maybe Tutuu and we gucci beyond that.

Why do you need him to solve me

When you're mafia I can't?

Ok you make a reasonable point

But when I'm town he can't so

Maybe between you theres a God tier nanook reader

but even when you're town it takes me at least 2-3 phases to figure it out... prior to that I'm just lying

I looked for anyone admitting they're mafia and this was the closest I could find. Didn't somebody say "I'm wolf" or something like that at some time?

Are you seriously hunting only players who openly admit to being wolves in the thread?

I am only doing that because dunya asked me for a third scumread and I don't see why I seriously have to have more than one at this point. I have to get 8 hours of sleep, then go to work, then read at least 6 pages of thread, and while I'm reading, another 4 appear, and then I have to have all of those 10 pages of thread in the back of my head while I'm weighing my options? If I'm going to play more games here, you best get used to me playing like this. I'm a slow reader, it took me hours to get even those 20-something posts out. Also, on mobile, I have to switch to desktop view to see how many posts someone has made in a topic, which sucks.
I still wanna do some other stuff before I make dinner and go to bed again, so I'm pretty confident that one scumread is good enough for now.

[RondoDimBuckle]

rondo
falcon
scotty

i dont think all three of them are mafia, but i am 100% sure mafia lies within those three.

don't like the whole reaction of scotty, i dunno why jay moved off him for silly reasons, but undermining my genuine case on him the way he did is defo something wolves have done with me before just cos i can't articulate my suspicions in big shiny cases like most ccan

falcon feels like the mischop if thread activity is anything to go by.

if falcon is town, it could mean rondo and scotty are both w. or one of them still is. if falcon is mafia, then rondo is likely town based on voting patterns i think.

I dont like this setting up of an excuse when scotty is mischop to turn on me

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: jjj/lc ] aubergine

[dunya]

rondo
falcon
scotty

i dont think all three of them are mafia, but i am 100% sure mafia lies within those three.

don't like the whole reaction of scotty, i dunno why jay moved off him for silly reasons, but undermining my genuine case on him the way he did is defo something wolves have done with me before just cos i can't articulate my suspicions in big shiny cases like most ccan

falcon feels like the mischop if thread activity is anything to go by.

if falcon is town, it could mean rondo and scotty are both w. or one of them still is. if falcon is mafia, then rondo is likely town based on voting patterns i think.

I dont like this setting up of an excuse when scotty is mischop to turn on me

i know you think it feels that way, and i probably phrased it poorly, but it's really not. scotty can be town with you. if scotty flips town, i'd yeet falcon next.

[dunya]

i think tutuu is just town here based on her last mega mammoth post.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am suspicious of anyone who has hit max posts by EOD personally its not like postcap was a secret

[RondoDimBuckle]

JJJ gets a pass on this though cause he had to do damage control

[dunya]

@Dyson sphere definitely play at your pace and how you like; no one can ask anything else from you! you're already doing a great job cos i actively town read you, your progression on jay is believable, you're basically Innocent Child walking now. half the game is about not being chopped and the other half hunting for the right scum.

jay isn't mafia, and i'll watch 1 season of whatever show you want if he flips mafia.

but let me ask you something else since you said everyone but jay seems town-- who is your biggest Town read from everyone else or if you can biggest TWO?

[falcon45ca]

JJJ gets a pass on this though cause he had to do damage control

Damage control? Interesting take

[RondoDimBuckle]

JJJ gets a pass on this though cause he had to do damage control

Damage control? Interesting take

Weather he is town or or mafia is debated by me personally but either way you have to agree coming in mid game isnt the best way to enter town or mafia I am just excusing him from my suspicion of his post cap NOT my suspicion

[TonyStarkPrime]

Interesting tell

[TonyStarkPrime]

Mmm chopping Jay

[RondoDimBuckle]

So the town read on rondo would be for his apparent lack of care of how he is percieved it seems

that is my current stance yes

I think there's room for Rondo to want to look like he doesn't care how he is perceived, if you knawmsaying.

This is where I thought, yeah, I don't care either, so now I'm gonna pick you Jay, because apparently, I've gotta pick somebody.

So do you think I am town since you think he is mafia for thinking I am? Or am I reading more into this than is there?

[falcon45ca]

I am suspicious of anyone who has hit max posts by EOD personally its not like postcap was a secret

So you're sus of tuttu, myself, Mac, Scotty, JJJ, and dunya? We all have 86+ posts now, all likely to hit 100 before EOD.


And that's just based off your post cap sus, what are your other reads? Do you have anyone outside of the 6 of us in your sus pool? Who and why?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am suspicious of anyone who has hit max posts by EOD personally its not like postcap was a secret

So you're sus of tuttu, myself, Mac, Scotty, JJJ, and dunya? We all have 86+ posts now, all likely to hit 100 before EOD.


And that's just based off your post cap sus, what are your other reads? Do you have anyone outside of the 6 of us in your sus pool? Who and why?

86+ isnt post cap, 99 is post cap and I dont know why you put JJJ in when I specifically said his post cap is excused? Its like you are wilfully misinterpreting me

[NotAnAxehole]

Dyson chop is acceptable, JJJ chop is not.

[RondoDimBuckle]

dunya -tinfoil
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME -tinfoil
NotAnAxehole

TonyStarkPrime

Dyson sphere
Master Radishes
motel room
Mizery
MacDougall


lost monkey
Lime Coke / JJJ - mostly from LC

Scotty
falcon45ca
tutuu


This is mostly gut reading off first day interactions.

[Mizery]

Okay yeah still wanna kull Rondo a bit for his geberalizef suspicions

[RondoDimBuckle]

geberalizef?

[Mizery]

Okay yeah still wanna kill Rondo a bit for his generalized suspicions

I have a giant black spot on my phone screen that prevented me from seeing that typo.

[NotAnAxehole]

dunya -tinfoil
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME -tinfoil
NotAnAxehole

TonyStarkPrime

Dyson sphere
Master Radishes
motel room
Mizery
MacDougall


lost monkey
Lime Coke / JJJ - mostly from LC

Scotty
falcon45ca
tutuu


This is mostly gut reading off first day interactions.

If I were a betting man, I'd say that your null reads contain all of the mafia:

TonyStarkPrime

Dyson sphere
Master Radishes
motel room
Mizery
MacDougall


lost monkey
Lime Coke / JJJ - mostly from LC

[dunya]

Dyson chop is acceptable, JJJ chop is not.

what happened to the scotty suspicion? where'd it go? did you read his reaction to me today?

do you think nook is town?

[RondoDimBuckle]

dunya -tinfoil
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME -tinfoil
NotAnAxehole

TonyStarkPrime

Dyson sphere
Master Radishes
motel room
Mizery
MacDougall


lost monkey
Lime Coke / JJJ - mostly from LC

Scotty
falcon45ca
tutuu


This is mostly gut reading off first day interactions.

If I were a betting man, I'd say that your null reads contain all of the mafia:

TonyStarkPrime

Dyson sphere
Master Radishes
motel room
Mizery
MacDougall


lost monkey
Lime Coke / JJJ - mostly from LC

You know, I would crack up if that turned out to be the results

[NotAnAxehole]

Dyson chop is acceptable, JJJ chop is not.

what happened to the scotty suspicion? where'd it go? did you read his reaction to me today?

do you think nook is town?

It's not gone

No

No

[Dyson sphere]

So the town read on rondo would be for his apparent lack of care of how he is percieved it seems

that is my current stance yes

I think there's room for Rondo to want to look like he doesn't care how he is perceived, if you knawmsaying.

This is where I thought, yeah, I don't care either, so now I'm gonna pick you Jay, because apparently, I've gotta pick somebody.

So do you think I am town since you think he is mafia for thinking I am? Or am I reading more into this than is there?

I was putting myself in the shoes of that person that JJJ is talking about and I was thinking, all I know is that I'm town and who is that person to say I'm not town? Like, what gives him the right?
And later I totally forgot who that post was referring to, but now that you ask me, I think since Mizery said that, I suppose they're town and I don't know about your alignment. I like mizery's profile pic, so I think they're town.

[falcon45ca]

I am suspicious of anyone who has hit max posts by EOD personally its not like postcap was a secret

So you're sus of tuttu, myself, Mac, Scotty, JJJ, and dunya? We all have 86+ posts now, all likely to hit 100 before EOD.


And that's just based off your post cap sus, what are your other reads? Do you have anyone outside of the 6 of us in your sus pool? Who and why?

86+ isnt post cap, 99 is post cap and I dont know why you put JJJ in when I specifically said his post cap is excused? Its like you are wilfully misinterpreting me

Funny you say I'm misinterpreting you when I clearly said "likely to hit 100 by EOD"

Your reasoning for letting JJJ be exempt from your sus of post caps is silly, and I refute it on its merits, as LC was not a runaway wagon chop. He wasn't in anymore danger than several other players who have votes on them.

That whole strategy of scum hunting is lazy as well, as it picks out players who aren't as able to defend themselves due to the cap limit.

You didn't even answer my question of whonyout other scum reads are and why except to say "gut read interactions", which is also lazy scum hunting.

So both of your stated cases for susing players are lazy, which means I'm fine with Rondo, Dyson, Motel, Mac for my POE right now

[NotAnAxehole]

[VOTE: Dyson] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am suspicious of anyone who has hit max posts by EOD personally its not like postcap was a secret

So you're sus of tuttu, myself, Mac, Scotty, JJJ, and dunya? We all have 86+ posts now, all likely to hit 100 before EOD.


And that's just based off your post cap sus, what are your other reads? Do you have anyone outside of the 6 of us in your sus pool? Who and why?

86+ isnt post cap, 99 is post cap and I dont know why you put JJJ in when I specifically said his post cap is excused? Its like you are wilfully misinterpreting me

Funny you say I'm misinterpreting you when I clearly said "likely to hit 100 by EOD"

Your reasoning for letting JJJ be exempt from your sus of post caps is silly, and I refute it on its merits, as LC was not a runaway wagon chop. He wasn't in anymore danger than several other players who have votes on them.

That whole strategy of scum hunting is lazy as well, as it picks out players who aren't as able to defend themselves due to the cap limit.

You didn't even answer my question of whonyout other scum reads are and why except to say "gut read interactions", which is also lazy scum hunting.

So both of your stated cases for susing players are lazy, which means I'm fine with Rondo, Dyson, Motel, Mac for my POE right now

You wasted your last post on this and didnt change your vote which means you want to vote dyson so this just feels performative

[Mizery]

Is there any reason why TSP is town because his ISO is meh to me

[Mizery]

falcon/rondo w/w?

or you know, mac or motel, but I'm scumreading rando rn so-

[RondoDimBuckle]

Is there any reason why TSP is town because his ISO is meh to me

Im not calling him town, he's just leaning away from NAI, I have had interactions with you that make me go hmmm and not with TSP

[Mizery]

Is there any reason why TSP is town because his ISO is meh to me

Im not calling him town, he's just leaning away from NAI, I have had interactions with you that make me go hmmm and not with TSP

what

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I kind of don't think falcon can make 90 posts in ~36 hours of d1 as mafia tbh

I do not have the research to back that up but uh...I don't care im making the read anyways

motel room zips up his pants and takes a drag of his cigarette. Yeah? Im running out of people then, day 1 is a crapshoot.

Nanook leaves his pants unzipped. If you got it, flaunt it, and what I got is a bunch of good reads.

[NotAnAxehole]

I think all of the mafia are within (this is not a POE):

Dyson
Lomo
Mizery
Nanook
MacDougall

[Mizery]

I think all of the mafia are within (this is not a POE):

Dyson
Lomo
Mizery
Nanook
MacDougall

isn't this

by definition

a POE

[RondoDimBuckle]

Process of Elimination that list could be literally made up off the top of his head