Fortune of Lies [Gameover Mafia Win)

[NotAnAxehole]

Apparently, you need to get permission to bus people on MU

Who was in your team?

I don't know, I didn't really pay attention to anyone other than myself.

I see, good to know

I sometimes forget that my humor is completely lost on people who aren't familiar me at all.

[MacDougall]

Mac, I've missed playing video mafia with you... I revived DM for a day and the games produced were the worst I've potentially ever seen, it was hilarious.

I played a few times recently and regretted it every time. Toxic as shit. I also just can't be fucked when I rad mafia anymore and just bus my teammates.

DM is just a very interesting case study for me, where everyone believes that you can only play mafia one way and they get angry at anything fun or funny that occurs during play.

yeah I get rissoled a lot for thinking outside the box and my reads are usually very good but they don't comply with their mech expectations

[MacDougall]

ok assume I'm town for a second and tell me who the mafia are LC and Axe

[NotAnAxehole]

Mac, I've missed playing video mafia with you... I revived DM for a day and the games produced were the worst I've potentially ever seen, it was hilarious.

I played a few times recently and regretted it every time. Toxic as shit. I also just can't be fucked when I rad mafia anymore and just bus my teammates.

DM is just a very interesting case study for me, where everyone believes that you can only play mafia one way and they get angry at anything fun or funny that occurs during play.

yeah I get rissoled a lot for thinking outside the box and my reads are usually very good but they don't comply with their mech expectations

Oh, in my recent games, Erkoys rolled mafia twice, so both games ended with a mafia forfeit (and 1 mafia modkill). Because being serious about not talking in 10 seconds is important when you haven't seen a game in a month

[NotAnAxehole]

ok assume I'm town for a second and tell me who the mafia are LC and Axe

I do assume that you're town...

[MacDougall]

thing about dm is they are bad at reading people for the most part unless they are just potatoes

the more assertive players can just talk over people and railroad games as mafia and rarely ever lose because of it

[MacDougall]

Mac, I've missed playing video mafia with you... I revived DM for a day and the games produced were the worst I've potentially ever seen, it was hilarious.

I played a few times recently and regretted it every time. Toxic as shit. I also just can't be fucked when I rad mafia anymore and just bus my teammates.

DM is just a very interesting case study for me, where everyone believes that you can only play mafia one way and they get angry at anything fun or funny that occurs during play.

yeah I get rissoled a lot for thinking outside the box and my reads are usually very good but they don't comply with their mech expectations

Oh, in my recent games, Erkoys rolled mafia twice, so both games ended with a mafia forfeit (and 1 mafia modkill). Because being serious about not talking in 10 seconds is important when you haven't seen a game in a month

lol

[NotAnAxehole]

Look, if I had to shoot one person, it would be SoA. That's all I'm giving ya for now.

[NotAnAxehole]

Alright, well I'm done server maintenance, time for bed ._. See yall in 3 hours.

[Lime Coke]

Gotta love it when you're waiting for the notification of a new post, and it doesn't pop up because everything's on a new page.

[Lime Coke]

ok assume I'm town for a second and tell me who the mafia are LC and Axe

If you're town my hypothetical team would be-

DrWilgy, one of the 0 posters, MightyQ.

[Lime Coke]

ok assume I'm town for a second and tell me who the mafia are LC and Axe

If you're town my hypothetical team would be-

DrWilgy, one of the 0 posters, MightyQ.

Actually, you know what?

Replace MightyQ with JackofHearts.

If there's 4, then both can be on the team.

[Ruri]

Another 5 pages. Good grief.

[Lime Coke]

Another 5 pages. Good grief.

Have you actually been backreading?

[MacDougall]

Another 5 pages. Good grief.

Got any reads?

[MafiaMenace]

i have come to the conclusion that i am doing no catchup until we are on 10 players if i even live that long

[Lime Coke]

i have come to the conclusion that i am doing no catchup until we are on 10 players if i even live that long

That's at least fair enough™ your catch up post was pretty good, at least your reasonings for your reads I could resonate with. Townleaning you currently.

[MafiaMenace]

By the way, MafiaMenace has been lock town for a while now, if anyone hasn't seen it yet, don't ask me to point it out, because I won't. There are actually 2 things to observe.

what if i asked you to

[MafiaMenace]

because none of my posts should have that strong of an indicator of my alignment behind them

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Lime Coke nya] aubergine

[Lime Coke]

[VOTE: Lime Coke nya] aubergine

Fair enough™.

[Lime Coke]

Although you're supposed to townread that.

[MacDougall]

I don't townread anything. That's my secret talent. If you scumread everyone you're always correct.

[falcon45ca]

I am town!



Late to the party I see

[MightyQ]

VC

Spoiler: show

Who’s the one you fear the most?
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


NotAnAxehole
1
9%
Voters: MacDougall
DrWigly
5
45%
Voters: NotAnAxehole, Lime Coke, Scotty, Ruri, alexa
Ruri
0
No votes
Voters: None
MafiaMan
0
No votes
Voters: None
Captain Falcon
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts
0
No votes
Voters: None
LinearPoint
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
LimeCoke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Marmot
0
No votes
Voters: None
Paopan
0
No votes
Voters: None
MightyQ
2
18%
Voters: MafiaMenace, MightyQ
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDongull
1
9%
Voters: Marmot
alexa
1
9%
Voters: Michelle
Son of Anarchy
1
9%
Voters: dunya
Total votes: 11

Mighty is self voting? Why?

There's no "unvote" option.

I might be inexperienced, but I see no reason to vote day 1. No good evidence to conclude any of the scum, so I just memed

[NotAnAxehole]

VC

Spoiler: show

Who’s the one you fear the most?
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


NotAnAxehole
1
9%
Voters: MacDougall
DrWigly
5
45%
Voters: NotAnAxehole, Lime Coke, Scotty, Ruri, alexa
Ruri
0
No votes
Voters: None
MafiaMan
0
No votes
Voters: None
Captain Falcon
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts
0
No votes
Voters: None
LinearPoint
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
LimeCoke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Marmot
0
No votes
Voters: None
Paopan
0
No votes
Voters: None
MightyQ
2
18%
Voters: MafiaMenace, MightyQ
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDongull
1
9%
Voters: Marmot
alexa
1
9%
Voters: Michelle
Son of Anarchy
1
9%
Voters: dunya
Total votes: 11

Mighty is self voting? Why?

There's no "unvote" option.

I might be inexperienced, but I see no reason to vote day 1. No good evidence to conclude any of the scum, so I just memed

Lel

[Marmot]

I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS A LIGHTER

So did I tbh, thanks for clearing that up.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: DrWigly] aubergine

I would like to apply to this club.

[Marmot]

Actually

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

That puts us 2 away from maj, so I'll hold off.

[Marmot]

rather than going page by page im doing player by player
at the very least i can give you this
()
(paopan, marmot, soa)
(mac, linearpoint, ruri, falcon, sig)
(mighty, wilgy)
()

unsorted:
(michelle, lime, naa, alexa, scotty, jack)

Cool
Why is Paopan so high?

Probably the legalization of Marijuana tbh.

lmao

[Marmot]

i feel like rather than wolfreading axe im just gonna call him a jester and move on tbh
the consistent fluff despite being second highest poster is telling lolol

My limited experience with him suggests that he likes to pocket when he's a wolf (this happened in backwards mafia).

Then again, he's kinda pocketed me as town too (I think that was Fleabag Mafia)


I'm not sure if I can catch him without a red peek. Except in this game, a red peek is probably a lie...

[Marmot]

i have no motivation to play this game so im just gonna cut my catchup short and just post it half complete
Catch-up:
otherwise knows as: (please end my suffering)

Spoiler: show

Ruri:
Nothing AI.

Paopan:

Paopan might die Day/Night 1.

I'm going to bang my head if that happens

this is townie coming off of their entrance

Someone told me you're heaps good at mafia so I expect you to single handedly find a mafia d1 or I am going to kill you d2.

Bububu-but I'm new

But okay, I'll accept. I'll find a single Mafia in day 1 and call them out.

If I turned out to be right. You okay with becoming my slave vote on the entirety of this game? okay?

I'm expecting good things coming on my way.

townie tone
confidence seems very real and not at all forced

I started playing around May, this year. Have played 4 games (1T, 3S) in total.

unlucky LOL

Captain Falcon:
Nothing AI.

Dr. Wilgy

alexa is volume-cleared for Day 1.

I will continue to post random thoughtless reads so as to escape the depths of the non-posting scummy people.

Marmot is also volume cleared.

initially had the same thought as Lime Coke on SOA (them asking about Mac when Mac had 2 votes in RVS and hadn't posted) being wolfy, but i think from what i saw of the fleabag game, they're a good enough wolf to know to avoid those "classic wolf tells" and the way he began trying to sort through the game after seemed decent - i had one "performative" ping on an aggressive comment they made about the Mac comment not being wolfy, but besides that i would lean on him being a villager with the caveat that they have a strong wolf game (at least i think this from how much i knew ilario townread them in fleabag) so should be consistently evaluated.

There is a single period in this post and I can only make it through about 1/3 before losing track of the hell is going on.

Alexa is wolf.

these posts feel icky
can definitely see this being wilgy doing the tried and true method of being charismatic as wolf, thus making it unlikely for people to be inclined to vote you

Macdongle:

I pity the mafia here

is it strange to gleam a guttown read off of the tone here?

Hello everyone.

I'm Paopan, and this is my first time playing in this site.

Would be sad if I were going to die day/night 1 hi hi hi.

Someone told me you're heaps good at mafia so I expect you to single handedly find a mafia d1 or I am going to kill you d2.

dont they only have 4 games, one of which being town

Son of Anarchy:

I’m gonna call Michelle town, alright? I’m likin’ the energy here

Michelle
Lime Coke
NAA

Alexa
MafiaMenace
Scotty

We’re here right now

I think imma go through this game makin' mostly soul reads. Is that cool?

while this annoys the ever loving shit out of me i think this reads mostly town
its very rare that mafia just shoots out unexplained reads so its more likely that this is town than wolf

@Lime Coke no chance. I only asked 'cause there was two votes on Dong and I thought there might be a reason people were suspectin' him for not postin'. I thoroughly reject your reasons for sayin' I could be mafia.

caution seems genuine

MightyQ:

I solemnly swear I'm up to only good

Sure I buy it. What sort of good?

The greater good

little bit of an awkward entrance but i can also see town!mighty that is new to this site being awkward i guess
still feels weird

I an generally curious how people are reading others, I would appreciate advice on tips for when I ki- help others in game

meh
alot more of this conversational nonsense in his iso sort of like hes refraining from making a read
he just feels all around awkward, i might even be willing to stake a bet on this being wolf

Marmot

I have no thoughts on Dong, except it would be amusing to off him Day 1.

townie tone

initially had the same thought as Lime Coke on SOA (them asking about Mac when Mac had 2 votes in RVS and hadn't posted) being wolfy, but i think from what i saw of the fleabag game, they're a good enough wolf to know to avoid those "classic wolf tells" and the way he began trying to sort through the game after seemed decent - i had one "performative" ping on an aggressive comment they made about the Mac comment not being wolfy, but besides that i would lean on him being a villager with the caveat that they have a strong wolf game (at least i think this from how much i knew ilario townread them in fleabag) so should be consistently evaluated.

There is a single period in this post and I can only make it through about 1/3 before losing track of the hell is going on.

Alexa is wolf.

Usually when I can't make it through long posts, I just skip em instead of stating random scumreads on em.

yup, when i play games with super analyzing players that make massive walls i just dont read them and act like i do /shrug
probably something AI in them but i couldnt care less lol

Why are you defending Wilgy, Michelle? I don't think Wilgy's done enough to warrant any defense.

this post shows genuine solving intent, i think this reads town

LinearPoint:

Here I thought I'd come in and be late to the party since I had lots of running around to do, but guess not many have gotten on yet.

Any thoughts on those that have posted?

Also hi, nice to meet you. Take a lollipop and pass it down

I'm mostly looking at how people post currently to get a feel of their playstyle/personality. At this point the only thing so far that has stood out was MM's last post switching their opinion on notanaxehole's post.
I presume it to be a meme post since I find the idea that susing someone for making a comment about the moderator to be couldn't possibly be a real read, but it feels forced to me and I can't tell right now if they are actually just memeing or feeling pressured to make a contribution of some sort.

i am dead serious

Honestly the post isn't out of line with the rest of their posts so it is nothing I consider noteworthy.

all of their posts seem a little fake and forced really so im not surprised

So far I just have 3 people I'm leaning on scum right now.
That being MM slightly because their vote on NAA just felt forced.
NAA because I went over their posts and I don't like that of their 26 posts, currently the 3rd highest post count, there isn't a single post actually pertaining to the game.
Last is SoA for the same reasons as NAA though to a much lesser extent. I just don't like their approach to gut reading people without ever explaining the reads given. The main reason I say to a lesser extent is because they have fewer posts and have actually given some degree of an opinion though I hope they eventually elaborate a bit.

Most other players I'm currently neutral to town leaning on. I was a tad worried of Scotty at first because it seemed to me at first they were giving off a bit of a suckup kind of vibe to get on my good side early, but their last few posts disproved that notion and I find them to be among the stronger of the townleans I currently have. I also like what I am seeing from LC, Michelle, and Alexa to the point I'm probably not going to vote them today.
Like I said, most others haven't done enough contribution either way to influence me.

Currently thinking between NAA and MM. A bit more towards MM since if they are Mafia I would put more stock into the possibility of their odd interaction with NAA as a busing attempt after they realized that saying they are town for pretty shaky reasons was sus where I find the other way around of NAA flipping Mafia being less telling of MM's role.

i guess i understand people seeing my vote as forced, ive learned im really shit at expressing my reads without somehow coming across as disingenuous but where did you get w/w?
busing naa for what?

Honestly there has not been too many players who have come in very active off the bat.
The fact that michelle, Alexa, and LC are all active and contributing is enough for me to at least put them as not a priority lynch.
I prefer checking active players over passive players as investigative roles so a Mafia hiding among them is not something I am too concerned with at the moment.

As for the suckup thing it was mostly from the fact that you without hesitation imediatly jumped on my early assessment of MM's vote being forced saying you agreed with it.
Things like that tend to put me on watch for someone especially since I'm new to this site so I was keeping the possibility of you trying to win over a newbie in the back of my mind.

when a game has like 17 players but only 5 of them are consistently posting its generally safe to assume wolves are in the inactives

Michelle:

Note for everyone who wants to help me, please copy paste the VC in a spoiler to have it from time to time

aight you town.

I don’t recall…have we played a game where you were scum? For some reason I keep thinking Deck mafia you were scum when you kept posting these helpful VC time stamps

I don't remember, but I know i posted VCs as scum, so this is NAI

a personal tell of mine is that i generally like those who disagree with a townread on them by calling the post in question nai
i think those that are most critical of themselves would be a townie

Scotty what's your opinion about the way Alexa TR you?

I pity the mafia here

Hi Mac, wassup?

i sort of like the way michelle tries to hear from everyone, i feel like that portrays a pretty villagery mindset

i want to say michelle is just sort of townie for the amount of effort theyve pumped in, and i will, and i am

@Michelle
Also why would it matter if Alexa's voting a low poster? You're supposed to vote wolfy people...Wilgy is pretty wolfy.

I don't see Wilgy wolfier than Mighty Q for eg
4 posts are not good enough to make a guess

I mean I've caught wolves in 2 posts before.

I thought i caught wolf Wilgy few games and he kept flipping green. Including the game where he posted what's in my sig

I will reread his Iso and come back to you

ive never really been a fan of paranoia defenses as they leave a bad taste in my mouth when i see them
"hey no guys dont vote this player, my scumreads on them have been wrong on them have been wrong alot in the past so they arent nescessarily scum guys!" like wat

sig:
Nothing AI, or at all for that matter.

NotAnAxeHole:
i outright refuse to iso them as nothing in it can be seen as content
they have 52 posts and all of it is fluff which as i said previously makes me want to believe theyre some sort of jester player with how much theyre clogging the game

()
(paopan, marmot, soa, michelle)
(naa, mac, linearpoint, ruri, falcon, sig)
(mighty, wilgy)
()

Wilgy is a very charismatic player in general, but he doesn't usually freeze like this.

[Marmot]

FYI I am 2 wins from equaling Epi for all time Syndicate wins so town better try hard in this game or imma poop on the floor.

Dunno how you snuck past me in overall Wins and post count you scoundrel.

[Marmot]

Lime Coke your job is to try really hard not to cost town the game with your simping.

This smells like a townread.

[Marmot]

@MafiaMenace are you MU player?

About my defence on Wilgy it's meta related and also by a logic who tells me that this wagon in concerning

DrWigly. 5. Voters: NotAnAxehole, Lime Coke, Scotty, Ruri, alexa

A wolf wouldn't have the biggest wagon while the thread is so calm. Game state looks like wolves are calm and I don't think all wolves are in the low posters either

Eh, sometimes wolves have terrible entrances and get caught. It happens all the time.


I think your point is valid, but I also lowkey think you have specific motivation to deflect the attention off of Wilgy.

[Marmot]

I need to find some town here. Dunya not tunneling me so she's out. Maybe Marmot voting me is townie cuz hes a scared little biatch. @Scotty you town of what mate?

You've earned a townread, but not because of this post.

[Marmot]

@Mac's Mom is town

I've gotta run to work, will be back later.

[Scotty]

Why are you defending Wilgy, Michelle? I don't think Wilgy's done enough to warrant any defense.

Exactly because of that. And because he is the most mischopped player at Syndicate.
Why would a player like Alexa vote so lazy a low poster?

Mac did NOTHING, so he can die imo
I am calling his vote on Alexa distancing because he didn't vote in the poll. Also her vote for Mac wasn't good and their interaction is wolfy.

Eh...he only has like 4 posts and they're not good at all? Like I'm agreeing with the vote, obviously since I'm voting there as well.

I wouldn't mind a Mac vote out.

Wilgy is not such a bad wolf to make 4 bad posts and deep from what I know.

Would he be more likely to make 4 good posts and dip?

I mean, people gotta do real life. His approach to the game is just incredibly lazy both ways to Sunday

Lazy is the correct term. Being lazy doesn't deserve the chop just because of it

Why are you defending Wilgy, Michelle? I don't think Wilgy's done enough to warrant any defense.

Exactly because of that. And because he is the most mischopped player at Syndicate.
Why would a player like Alexa vote so lazy a low poster?

Mac did NOTHING, so he can die imo
I am calling his vote on Alexa distancing because he didn't vote in the poll. Also her vote for Mac wasn't good and their interaction is wolfy.

Wilgy can probably compete with Scotty, or myself, or sig for that title.

But Wilgy hasn't really done anything either. Is it AI? You might be right about that, but I don't think there's anything wrong with going after his entrace, which I would agree is lackluster.

What do you make of Wilgy's entrance?

I make nothing, I wait for more posts

In my book, it certainly doesn’t mean lazy does not deserve the chop. Mafia can be lazy sometimes.

Wilgy still has time to get involved and I’m not deadset in leaving my vote here

[Scotty]

I don't see Wilgy wolfier than Mighty Q for eg
4 posts are not good enough to make a guess

I mean I've caught wolves in 2 posts before.

I thought i caught wolf Wilgy few games and he kept flipping green. Including the game where he posted what's in my sig

I will reread his Iso and come back to you

What would your other options be then? I'm townreading Alexa so I'm not going there.

Good Call

I make those every now and then.

Roll a die 6 times, you're likely to roll a 6.

That’s…that’s not how probability works

[Scotty]

i feel like rather than wolfreading axe im just gonna call him a jester and move on tbh
the consistent fluff despite being second highest poster is telling lolol

Wait there could be jesters? I’ve never played with jesters

I see this line of thought and big if true

[Scotty]

@Michelle
Also why would it matter if Alexa's voting a low poster? You're supposed to vote wolfy people...Wilgy is pretty wolfy.

I don't see Wilgy wolfier than Mighty Q for eg
4 posts are not good enough to make a guess

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Taking the inverse approach as the majority, I like it

You know, as a kid, I used to like to enter sedentary rooms at friend’s houses (think traditional dining rooms only used for fancy occasions) and walk to the spotless corners just so that corner could be used more often than they were. God I was so cool.

[Scotty]

there are 2 to 3 mafia between axe, LC, Alexa and Michelle. The trick is to figure out who the noob/s is/are.

Michelle/Axe probs not a team and LC/Alexa probs not.

It's probably Alexa/Axe. Mostly because you can't spell Alexa without Axe.

Maybe Michelle and Alexa but I feel like Axe is obvious mafia for his dealing with LC who he spewed town here.

So I guess Michelle is maybe town. But man what a bad read. Sometimes they can be right too I suppose.

That said nya!

[VOTE: Notanaxehole] aubergine

I’m not so convinced we have so many aggro wolves stinking up the thread on D1. I think the majority is still in the lower posters. Maybe 1 of those 4 is bad IMO.

And if not, I’ll wear a sock on my left fist to work. His name will be Rocko.

Also I’m really coming into the idea that NAA may be a heater like MM suggests. Whether or not MM himself is a wolf, I don’t think they’re w/w

[Scotty]

there are 2 to 3 mafia between axe, LC, Alexa and Michelle. The trick is to figure out who the noob/s is/are.

Michelle/Axe probs not a team and LC/Alexa probs not.

It's probably Alexa/Axe. Mostly because you can't spell Alexa without Axe.

Maybe Michelle and Alexa but I feel like Axe is obvious mafia for his dealing with LC who he spewed town here.

So I guess Michelle is maybe town. But man what a bad read. Sometimes they can be right too I suppose.

That said nya!

[VOTE: Notanaxehole] aubergine

I’m not so convinced we have so many aggro wolves stinking up the thread on D1. I think the majority is still in the lower posters. Maybe 1 of those 4 is bad IMO.

And if not, I’ll wear a sock on my left fist to work. His name will be Rocko.

Also I’m really coming into the idea that NAA may be a heater like MM suggests. Whether or not MM himself is a wolf, I don’t think they’re w/w

*jester

[NotAnAxehole]

I mean I've caught wolves in 2 posts before.

I thought i caught wolf Wilgy few games and he kept flipping green. Including the game where he posted what's in my sig

I will reread his Iso and come back to you

What would your other options be then? I'm townreading Alexa so I'm not going there.

Good Call

I make those every now and then.

Roll a die 6 times, you're likely to roll a 6.

That’s…that’s not how probability works

By my calculation it's about 66%, I don't know where you went to school, do they tell you that rolling a die multiple times in no way increases your probability of obtaining a specific result at least once?

[Scotty]

I need to find some town here. Dunya not tunneling me so she's out. Maybe Marmot voting me is townie cuz hes a scared little biatch. @Scotty you town of what mate?

You are a pumpkin

[Scotty]

LC is doing that thing where you say something that's untrue and then when you get called on it you gesture emptily in an attempt to double down instead of just correcting yourself which is almost always a wolf.

You’re doing that thing where you say a bunch of thoughts that contradict each other without a clear through line over the course of a few hours.

Just waiting on the CFD you start 4 minutes before EOD

[Scotty]

so Axe and LC have both chosen the old insult Mac's skill route... pretty common thing mafia do

Michelle has chosen the old omgus without consideration play. Kinda wolfy too.

Just kill em all.

And you've chosen the "OMGUS everyone" route, something you've told me that you would do as a wolf every now and then post Venom n Guns.

Who did I omgus?

Are you not reading your own posts or are you just typing stuff out and sending it?

whomst did I omgus? fmpov I have omgussed zero people. Were Alexa, Michelle, Axe and you scumreading me prior to me scumreading you? Cuz if so I missed that.

Yes. All four of us have either voted you or outed a scumread on you in some form or another.

Ain't seen it. Only seen Marmot voting me.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

oops

[Scotty]

In fairness, I was trying to die LOL

[NotAnAxehole]

In fairness, I was trying to die LOL

This is the optimal way to not die as either alignment, pretend that everything scummy you did was intentional, also I wouldn't be telling you this if I were mafia, so yeah, get fucked.

[Scotty]

HARD CLAIM COP

lol k
You sane or insane?