GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[EnderWiggin]

so fun thing I just thought of, if the mafia captain picked likely they did not pick "traditional mafia powerhouses" because that would be obvs as fuck as soon as one flipped.

lol this is a mafia captain game and they didn't pick me?

that narrows the pool quite dramatically lol.

Look, I just didn't realise it was you. Can you ever forgive me?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I mean I think probably nutella is not town and is trying to get creature chopped and therefore we can’t trust what nutella says (?)

[Guillotine]

OK, so Neeko's current theory.
Neeko's role makes her agree with Nutella roles and alignments might not be tied down.
If Mafia chose roles why not take N0 rolecop? So Mafia either chose players and forwent N0 rolecop meaning Alexa and Nutella are both Town.
OR
Mafia chose roles and took N0 rolecop using it to find roles quicker. Mafia probably wouldn't say they have a N0 rolecop on who they actually checked meaning Nutella and Alexa are probably both Mafia pretending with a gambit.
Nutella suggesting roles are not tied to alignment to Neeko makes it more likely option B was what happened and Nutella knew roles were not randomly assigned alignments.

Don't think Nanook would offer N0 rolecop to mafia with a soupkill. Can't think of a more unfun way to get eliminated.

Why not. It is common for mafia to have a role cop in set ups with a soup kill.

[TonyStarkPrime]

That’s where I’m at tell me if it’s right in post

[Phil and Gloria]

@alexa is there any chance nutella is the captain?

[EnderWiggin]

Debating to myself if it’s worth tunneling this game or if it’s better to not get invested so it stings less when I’m probably right

Sting like a butterfly, float like a bee.

[Alison]

Mac's entrance is unimpressive. He remains firmly in my suspect pool.

@LinearPoint What is your opinion on my Creature case? You've been very absorbed with the alexa/nutella stuff. I'd like your view on other parts of the game.

[Phil and Gloria]

so fun thing I just thought of, if the mafia captain picked likely they did not pick "traditional mafia powerhouses" because that would be obvs as fuck as soon as one flipped.

lol this is a mafia captain game and they didn't pick me?

that narrows the pool quite dramatically lol.

Look, I just didn't realise it was you. Can you ever forgive me?

I'm grateful actually

[Creature]

I mean I think probably nutella is not town and is trying to get creature chopped and therefore we can’t trust what nutella says (?)

So nutella overreacted at alexa possibly catching her from a night action? Though, alexa later said her action makes nutella seem town

[Alison]

I mean I think probably nutella is not town and is trying to get creature chopped and therefore we can’t trust what nutella says (?)

I think the way she went after Creature is exactly the way she goes after people as town.

What makes you suspect her?

[Phil and Gloria]

Mac's entrance is unimpressive. He remains firmly in my suspect pool.

@LinearPoint What is your opinion on my Creature case? You've been very absorbed with the alexa/nutella stuff. I'd like your view on other parts of the game.

you remain firmly inside my butthole

[alexa]

@alexa is there any chance nutella is the captain?

i would have no idea if that was the case and no way to know

[alexa]

I mean I think probably nutella is not town and is trying to get creature chopped and therefore we can’t trust what nutella says (?)

So nutella overreacted at alexa possibly catching her from a night action? Though, alexa later said her action makes nutella seem town

no my night action doesn't make nutella seem town. her role is scummy. but her reaction to it seemed potentially town.

[Phil and Gloria]

@alexa is there any chance nutella is the captain?

i would have no idea if that was the case and no way to know

don't you know what their role is?

whatever nvm.

[Seanzie]

My towncore is Hollowkatt and EnderWiggin.

I bestow upon thee the duty of finding me 3 more town. They have to be mad kents tho.

What do you think of LP and Guillo?

[Creature]

Mac's entrance is unimpressive. He remains firmly in my suspect pool.

@LinearPoint What is your opinion on my Creature case? You've been very absorbed with the alexa/nutella stuff. I'd like your view on other parts of the game.

you remain firmly inside my butthole

[LinearPoint]

Mac's entrance is unimpressive. He remains firmly in my suspect pool.

@LinearPoint What is your opinion on my Creature case? You've been very absorbed with the alexa/nutella stuff. I'd like your view on other parts of the game.

Creature is being accused of the same thing Neeko is so Neeko is pretty much writing off the case entirely since Neeko knows it is NAI.
Creature's accusations also seem largely based on meta which Neeko is not familiar with.
That being said Neeko is lukewarm to the idea of Creature being Town. Not locktown, but nothing overly sus has been observed.

[Alison]

OK, so Neeko's current theory.
Neeko's role makes her agree with Nutella roles and alignments might not be tied down.
If Mafia chose roles why not take N0 rolecop? So Mafia either chose players and forwent N0 rolecop meaning Alexa and Nutella are both Town.
OR
Mafia chose roles and took N0 rolecop using it to find roles quicker. Mafia probably wouldn't say they have a N0 rolecop on who they actually checked meaning Nutella and Alexa are probably both Mafia pretending with a gambit.
Nutella suggesting roles are not tied to alignment to Neeko makes it more likely option B was what happened and Nutella knew roles were not randomly assigned alignments.

Don't think Nanook would offer N0 rolecop to mafia with a soupkill. Can't think of a more unfun way to get eliminated.

Why not. It is common for mafia to have a role cop in set ups with a soup kill.

I can believe a mafia rolecop. N0 seems sketchy. The point of a bastard role madness game is to see the roles collide wildly. An N0 rolecop in a game with a soupkill is an uninteractive check followed by an uninteractive kill that takes a potentially fun role out of the game completely. It is an unsatisfying way to die and I don't think Nanook would add a role like that into the game.

Maybe I am wrong. I was wrong the last time I tried to host read Nanook. But I do think that N0 checks like that don't really make mafia games more fun, and I think he is a host that cares very much about fun and making sure everyone has a good time.

[c4e5g3d5]

Mac is spewed clear by the sheer number of people who don't realize he's even in this game

40% serious take

[Scotty]

So many things are confusing me

[VOTE: Tony] aubergine

I blame commercialism

[falcon45ca]

Alison is prolly scum

[Alison]

Mac's entrance is unimpressive. He remains firmly in my suspect pool.

@LinearPoint What is your opinion on my Creature case? You've been very absorbed with the alexa/nutella stuff. I'd like your view on other parts of the game.

Creature is being accused of the same thing Neeko is so Neeko is pretty much writing off the case entirely since Neeko knows it is NAI.
Creature's accusations also seem largely based on meta which Neeko is not familiar with.
That being said Neeko is lukewarm to the idea of Creature being Town. Not locktown, but nothing overly sus has been observed.

The first thing that sprang to mind when I read your post is this: "you are completely full of it".

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

[Guillotine]

I have a bad feeling the mafia captain just picked the boring role selection though.

Why? I would pick players and the best players there are. Players ein games not roles.

[Creature]

Mac is spewed clear by the sheer number of people who don't realize he's even in this game

40% serious take

I think two players are more likely to be forcibly paired into one town slot than into one wolf slot so yeah

[Phil and Gloria]

guys why is Mac not in this game? crazy times tbh

[Creature]

Mac is spewed clear by the sheer number of people who don't realize he's even in this game

40% serious take

I think two players are more likely to be forcibly paired into one town slot than into one wolf slot so yeah

Or like mafia captain never picks that role

[Phil and Gloria]

Alison is prolly scum

Ur probably right

[Phil and Gloria]

@hollowkatt @EnderWiggin Falcon is now in the towncore

[Scotty]

I mean I think probably nutella is not town and is trying to get creature chopped and therefore we can’t trust what nutella says (?)

Exactly my thoughts

Actually

Wait I just voted you.

Wait

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Nutella isn’t someone we chop on D1, tho, right? Feel like she’s a definite cheat code if she’s town. Or a festering boil if she’s not. But we can live with a boil right?

[ilario]

At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

Are the other parts of my case NAI for him, too?

I think it's way too early to write such a monster of a post--if you have so much to write against him/his slot right now, it's probably coming from a place of wolfy over-eagerness to project town or otherwise control the game.

Lock 112 as town all the way until lylo

112 c4 creature

These are almost never wolves

Alexa

Would be very surprised if she’s a wolf but most likely is town like 90+ % of the time here. This approach she’s taking would only be tailored to fool me if she’s mafia but idt she would do that in a lobby this big

I didn't know you were a bluekang alt

hold up lemme bring out the font 7

[Phil and Gloria]

Mac is spewed clear by the sheer number of people who don't realize he's even in this game

40% serious take

mac? who is mac? my name is guy incognito

[Creature]

I have a bad feeling the mafia captain just picked the boring role selection though.

Why? I would pick players and the best players there are. Players ein games not roles.

but mafia get to pick stronger roles if they choose to pick roles over players

[Phil and Gloria]

At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

Are the other parts of my case NAI for him, too?

I think it's way too early to write such a monster of a post--if you have so much to write against him/his slot right now, it's probably coming from a place of wolfy over-eagerness to project town or otherwise control the game.

Lock 112 as town all the way until lylo

112 c4 creature

These are almost never wolves

Alexa

Would be very surprised if she’s a wolf but most likely is town like 90+ % of the time here. This approach she’s taking would only be tailored to fool me if she’s mafia but idt she would do that in a lobby this big

I didn't know you were a bluekang alt

hold up lemme bring out the font 7

maybe it's the road beers talking but I wanna towncore you for this

[Marmot]

TBH has Creature played like more than three games with Alison

I think I played plenty. It's just that anyone who plays with me tend to wolfread me at first until they don't.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

[LinearPoint]

Mac's entrance is unimpressive. He remains firmly in my suspect pool.

@LinearPoint What is your opinion on my Creature case? You've been very absorbed with the alexa/nutella stuff. I'd like your view on other parts of the game.

Creature is being accused of the same thing Neeko is so Neeko is pretty much writing off the case entirely since Neeko knows it is NAI.
Creature's accusations also seem largely based on meta which Neeko is not familiar with.
That being said Neeko is lukewarm to the idea of Creature being Town. Not locktown, but nothing overly sus has been observed.

The first thing that sprang to mind when I read your post is this: "you are completely full of it".

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

Nah, Neeko speaks from the heart. The whole "fanning the flames" argument is just BS.

[Marmot]

What have I missed?

I was hoping you could tell me

I don't have a clue and I'm not reading all of them at this point.

[ilario]

Damn, alison reallt is ticking all the checkboxes of how I would be playing as scum.

If you’re actually town here I think ur likely wrong on creature, dude is as easy af read and him being fluffy or whatever is not AI, in fact he’s more likely to awkwardly try and look like he’s contributing as a wolf ime

Fortunately I am not you.

I in fact think he is awkwardly trying to look like he's contributing. This is why he is asking shallow questions that lead nowhere and why is making posts that look like "pushes" but serve no purpose except to provoke townies, and when he is asked to account for what he has learned from their reactions he can produce nothing.

I didn’t really get the impression he was trying to provoke anyone? Alota people made posts similar to his about the Alexa v nutella thing

[Phil and Gloria]

I kinda wanna kill this Neeko person

[Alison]

LP and Creature are both great votes today.

[Scotty]

Creature seems too easy. Too obvious. Occam’s razor and all that

[Marmot]

LP and Creature are both great votes today.

Why are they great votes?

[Phil and Gloria]

I appreciate you Alison

[Alison]

Mac's entrance is unimpressive. He remains firmly in my suspect pool.

@LinearPoint What is your opinion on my Creature case? You've been very absorbed with the alexa/nutella stuff. I'd like your view on other parts of the game.

Creature is being accused of the same thing Neeko is so Neeko is pretty much writing off the case entirely since Neeko knows it is NAI.
Creature's accusations also seem largely based on meta which Neeko is not familiar with.
That being said Neeko is lukewarm to the idea of Creature being Town. Not locktown, but nothing overly sus has been observed.

The first thing that sprang to mind when I read your post is this: "you are completely full of it".

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

Nah, Neeko speaks from the heart. The whole "fanning the flames" argument is just BS.

1) I brought up three points against Creature, but you're dismissing the entire case against him because of one point you disagree with.
2) It is obviously true that intentionally fanning the flames is a scummy move. Even if you think you personally haven't fanned any flames, it's disingenuous to extend that logic to protect Creature, without examining the specifics of why he's been accused of fanning flames.
3) None of the accusations I extended towards Creature were based on meta, except for the point about his low energy.

There is no logic in your post. There was no logic in your theory that alexa/nutella were partners, and that was why I dropped my townread on you. Now I have a full blown scumread on you.

[Phil and Gloria]

Creature seems too easy. Too obvious. Occam’s razor and all that

I am 99% sure you are mafia

[Alison]

LP and Creature are both great votes today.

Why are they great votes?

Refer to the post immediately before this for why LP is a good vote.

Refer to my massive post about Creature for why he is a good vote.

[Phil and Gloria]

I either wanna kill Scotty or ignore my instincts entirely and towncore him... fellow towncore what do?

[Scotty]

I mean I think probably nutella is not town and is trying to get creature chopped and therefore we can’t trust what nutella says (?)

I think the way she went after Creature is exactly the way she goes after people as town.

What makes you suspect her?

I don’t believe someone as experienced as Nutella wouldn’t know her tells as town and wouldnt capitalize on other people’s meta of it.

Which reminds me: @nutella have you had your coffee yet?

[Alison]

I appreciate you Alison

I have not vibed with you at all this game. Why?

[Creature]

except for the point about his low energy.

Do I look low energy now?

[Phil and Gloria]

btw I've been sprityo the whole time