GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[NotAnAxehole]

Also, for everyone who missed it the first 4-5 times. I MADE A MISTAKE TARGETING ALISON, I ASSUMED NO ONE WOULD SHOOT HER OVER THE CLAIM AND I WAS WRONG.

[alexa]

here's what happened, for anyone catching up. NAA claimed a red check. i asked him if it was serious multiple times, as did other people. he said "hard claim, will literally never rescind." i continued to prod him about it, he said don't shoot her though, so i moved on

then he @'d me AGAIN and said i could shoot her i guess, but don't blame me if there's a negative consequence: essentially implying that she is confirmed red but shooting her may lead to a negative consequence.

i said "NAA, if you don't rescind the red by 2:55, i'm shooting alison."

he did not rescind the red check. thus, i shot her.

you know you can just say you made a mistake lol

I obviously did but that's not my fault.

[LinearPoint]

You always policy the person who killed their top town read over the person who actively tried to save their fake red

No, that's fucking ridiculous. It doesn't matter if she was my "top townread," reads can be wrong when i thought there was LITERAL MECH confirming her.

All game NAA has been setting up that he was going to fake a red at some set time, did you see any of those posts?

If you knew that NAA was setting up a fake red check long ago why not point it out?

[Paopan]

Alexa is scum.

NAA gave her an opportunity to kill Alison.

She took it. We got em

[TonyStarkPrime]

Hmm, I will say. Guillo is right, Wolf Alexa is a coward

[Dyslexicon]

I'm sorry for your ability to read emotion from posts.

I hope the grave for it is comfortable.

What are your better choices, on instinct or reason or whatever? And don't say me.

[EnderWiggin]

If I get voted out after being one of only 4 people trying to push flipped mafia then w/e.

Also just because I memed doesn't excuse people for ignoring my reads and calling me troll.

You think Marmot voters are all clear? I think voting Marmot who was already under suspicion is pretty easy.

That's not why I'm voting you though. Reading your iso you felt straight up nervous especially the first half.

Who even were the Marmot voters?

Bo (Flipped town)
Me
Nutella (Probably town)
Mac (Also probably town)

ALSO 4 votes is not a "Wolves hopped on".

The fact that it was so hard to get Marmot to 4 fucking votes was telling.

[Justplayingitcool]

are we really rehashing this again

[NotAnAxehole]

here's what happened, for anyone catching up. NAA claimed a red check. i asked him if it was serious multiple times, as did other people. he said "hard claim, will literally never rescind." i continued to prod him about it, he said don't shoot her though, so i moved on

then he @'d me AGAIN and said i could shoot her i guess, but don't blame me if there's a negative consequence: essentially implying that she is confirmed red but shooting her may lead to a negative consequence.

i said "NAA, if you don't rescind the red by 2:55, i'm shooting alison."

he did not rescind the red check. thus, i shot her.

you know you can just say you made a mistake lol

I obviously did but that's not my fault.

Not taking ownership of your mistakes is counterproductive.

[TonyStarkPrime]

You always policy the person who killed their top town read over the person who actively tried to save their fake red

No, that's fucking ridiculous. It doesn't matter if she was my "top townread," reads can be wrong when i thought there was LITERAL MECH confirming her.

All game NAA has been setting up that he was going to fake a red at some set time, did you see any of those posts?

If you knew that NAA was setting up a fake red check long ago why not point it out?

I did like fifty times

[Urist]

here's what happened, for anyone catching up. NAA claimed a red check. i asked him if it was serious multiple times, as did other people. he said "hard claim, will literally never rescind." i continued to prod him about it, he said don't shoot her though, so i moved on

then he @'d me AGAIN and said i could shoot her i guess, but don't blame me if there's a negative consequence: essentially implying that she is confirmed red but shooting her may lead to a negative consequence.

i said "NAA, if you don't rescind the red by 2:55, i'm shooting alison."

he did not rescind the red check. thus, i shot her.

you know you can just say you made a mistake lol

I obviously did but that's not my fault.

[alexa]

You always policy the person who killed their top town read over the person who actively tried to save their fake red

No, that's fucking ridiculous. It doesn't matter if she was my "top townread," reads can be wrong when i thought there was LITERAL MECH confirming her.

All game NAA has been setting up that he was going to fake a red at some set time, did you see any of those posts?

no.

[c4e5g3d5]

In an increasingly nervous voice, hey guys, what about a Porscha wagon?

[NotAnAxehole]

are we really rehashing this again

I'm a lead wagon. People need to understand that I'm town AND I'M USING MY ROLE AS BEST I CAN. I FUCKED UP

[Justplayingitcool]

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

flash wagon time

[112]

i'm thinking Axe is some kind of 3p

You don't think I'm mafia... You acknowledge that I made every effort to make it clear the red check is fake... AND you're voting me.

i never acknowledged this

making every effort would be fully recanting the claim

OK, so what are your thoughts on the posts I made before Alexa shot? Creature quoted for ease of reading, I re-quoted last page... Go, tell me how that's ever a real check, and tell me how I ever make that play as mafia?

You hard claimed a red check; this is how it's a real check.

You had every opportunity to make a black-and-white statement stating that your red check was a ruse or otherwise fabricated, and you refused.

You are talking to me like your side of the story is not difficult to understand, but it is. It makes literally no sense.

For the record, I have a red check against Falcon, hard claiming, never rescinding.

aight, i believe you.

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

for the record, never planned on holding my vote to you, just wanted to interrogate

this is the way

[Urist]

ohh now i understand why alexa brought up the possibility of linearpoint simply being illiterate

[EnderWiggin]

Alexa honestly probably mafia because I feel like shooting a red check on D1 on the person clearest from Mamrot spew is mildly outside her townrange.

But at the same time I feel like wolf!Alexa would be more circumspect.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

shooting a red check is outside of my townrange? like, i gave him MULTIPLE FUCKING OPPORTUNITIES TO RESCIND what are you talking about?

Red check on D1 is kinda not a thing that happens on Syndicate afaik and this game has roles that has to come from games from the previous year. (That being said I didn't play in half the games last year so maybe I'm just shooting shit rn.)

Like D2 I could see this but anyway.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

[alexa]

You always policy the person who killed their top town read over the person who actively tried to save their fake red

No, that's fucking ridiculous. It doesn't matter if she was my "top townread," reads can be wrong when i thought there was LITERAL MECH confirming her.

All game NAA has been setting up that he was going to fake a red at some set time, did you see any of those posts?

If you knew that NAA was setting up a fake red check long ago why not point it out?

I did like fifty times

when i said i was going to shoot alison at 2:55 you said nothing

[Justplayingitcool]

In an increasingly nervous voice, hey guys, what about a Porscha wagon?

mindmeld lol

[NotAnAxehole]

Alexa is town, she just won't own her shot.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

flash wagon time

Towny minmeld

[EnderWiggin]

You always policy the person who killed their top town read over the person who actively tried to save their fake red

No, that's fucking ridiculous. It doesn't matter if she was my "top townread," reads can be wrong when i thought there was LITERAL MECH confirming her.

All game NAA has been setting up that he was going to fake a red at some set time, did you see any of those posts?

If you knew that NAA was setting up a fake red check long ago why not point it out?

I did point it out. I even explicitly said "I don't believe your red check" when he hadn't made it.

But of course all my posts are trolling amirite?

[alexa]

Alexa honestly probably mafia because I feel like shooting a red check on D1 on the person clearest from Mamrot spew is mildly outside her townrange.

But at the same time I feel like wolf!Alexa would be more circumspect.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

shooting a red check is outside of my townrange? like, i gave him MULTIPLE FUCKING OPPORTUNITIES TO RESCIND what are you talking about?

Red check on D1 is kinda not a thing that happens on Syndicate afaik and this game has roles that has to come from games from the previous year. (That being said I didn't play in half the games last year so maybe I'm just shooting shit rn.)

Like D2 I could see this but anyway.

well neither nutella or alison said anything about it. alison herself said shooting her was correct

[TonyStarkPrime]

ohh now i understand why alexa brought up the possibility of linearpoint simply being illiterate

I think it’s a weirdly strong possibility that I don’t get

[TonyStarkPrime]

You always policy the person who killed their top town read over the person who actively tried to save their fake red

No, that's fucking ridiculous. It doesn't matter if she was my "top townread," reads can be wrong when i thought there was LITERAL MECH confirming her.

All game NAA has been setting up that he was going to fake a red at some set time, did you see any of those posts?

If you knew that NAA was setting up a fake red check long ago why not point it out?

I did like fifty times

when i said i was going to shoot alison at 2:55 you said nothing

I was not there

[112]

chop falcon

[Dyslexicon]

Can we discuss something else than the Alison shot

Please

Thank you

[sabie12]

Ugh I was in a DnD game and everything went crazy while i was gone.

[LinearPoint]

Neeko's already said Porchsa is likely Mafia, but this CFD will fail and NAA will be lynched because of it.
That being said, Neeko will still try since Porscha is scummier as a whole.

[c4e5g3d5]

I find v!alexa making that shot completely believable and barring people strongly thinking otherwise I think continuing to talk about it is a terrible idea.

[EnderWiggin]

I'm sorry for your ability to read emotion from posts.

I hope the grave for it is comfortable.

What are your better choices, on instinct or reason or whatever? And don't say me.

Well, now I have to say "You".

TSP/MR/Who were my other scum reads when I gave the thread a once over last night?

Fuck it.

ISO me.

I have my reads in there and I literally just woke up to this madness.

Alexa actually might just be town because why expose yourself like that when you could just let someone else do it or something.

IDK.

I'm not thinking about this anymore.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I told you the check was fake, you said OK, I’m going to shoot Alison, I got back and said no don’t”, Alison showed up in thread and got like two posts out before you shot her

[dyachei]

whats the case on porscha?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I find v!alexa making that shot completely believable and barring people strongly thinking otherwise I think continuing to talk about it is a terrible idea.

Yeah ok I’ll accept this but also c’mon

[Master Radishes]

I'm 10+ pages behind. Someone tell me things.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Whatever we’ll talk about it later

[Dyslexicon]

whats the case on porscha?

c4 had stuff in his iso hold on

[EnderWiggin]

Alexa honestly probably mafia because I feel like shooting a red check on D1 on the person clearest from Mamrot spew is mildly outside her townrange.

But at the same time I feel like wolf!Alexa would be more circumspect.

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

shooting a red check is outside of my townrange? like, i gave him MULTIPLE FUCKING OPPORTUNITIES TO RESCIND what are you talking about?

Red check on D1 is kinda not a thing that happens on Syndicate afaik and this game has roles that has to come from games from the previous year. (That being said I didn't play in half the games last year so maybe I'm just shooting shit rn.)

Like D2 I could see this but anyway.

well neither nutella or alison said anything about it. alison herself said shooting her was correct

Alison is married to mechanically correct play without thinking about gambits.

It's both a perk and a flaw of her play.

Nutella?

I might have to reread that.

[LinearPoint]

whats the case on porscha?

Neeko decided to poke through Porscha's posts an dis unsure how to feel about them.
Pretty much just shit posts until c4 said they might dayvig Porscha. Porscha's responce was they wanted to claim first and that's all.
They then tried spekulating that 112 shot KZA, which might be scum rolefishing.
However, what hands Neeko up is their response to the Marmot kill. Which was just asking if c4 shot Marmot and not commenting on Marmot's flip other than saying NAA wanting Marmot shot is dumb?
Porscha's likely Mafia who is trying to lay low and try to accumulate soup targets, but the postmortum defense of Marmot isn't something Neeko thinks Mafia does ever.

[c4e5g3d5]

whats the case on porscha?

Imma grab it from my ISO brb

Also LP said some stuff about her

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm 10+ pages behind. Someone tell me things.

Alexa shot Alison

[TonyStarkPrime]

We’re not talking about it anymore

[NotAnAxehole]

I don't think Alexa makes that shot as Mafia, but I do think she's ok making that shot as town and blaming someone else. People tend to want to find a fall man more frequently as town than mafia, it's past the point of "finding the next kill" it's "who can I blame for the loss".

[alexa]

I told you the check was fake, you said OK, I’m going to shoot Alison, I got back and said no don’t”, Alison showed up in thread and got like two posts out before you shot her

In response to you saying that, NAA doubled down on it with hardclaim, never rescind. I didn't believe it was fake and I think that a villager would not "never rescind" a red check when he knew I had a gun, so I really believed it. idk if you have TMI or WTF because i have no idea why i should've been expected to figure out that it was fake?

[Paopan]

We doing a CFD that would flip town?

[Creature]

zzzz

Maybe not Ender

[c4e5g3d5]

In only 10 posts, Porscha has

hi guys. glad to see this is like 30-something pages in already lol...

I only read on radish there to clarify

How much of the thread have you read?

about a quarter of it

Might not get to all of the day 1 posts. Amazing amount of posts already tbh, more than I expected even with all these people lol. Sorry if I dont quite catch all of them, but I'll do my best to read as much as I can. And a lot of my reads early on are pretty superficial since there is so much going on, I won't be hard reading this early. Not trying to go too crazy day 1 hehe.

An unnatural number of posts about how they're behind
(Middle one was prompted tho so less bad)

I have a red on radishes kill him

I cc

I town read this

yeah that's actual comedy. I don't see a reason to not town read radish atm

I only read on radish there to clarify

A TMIey Radish read

Particularly the wording of "I don't see a reason not to townread _______"
That's literally not how townreads work and it especially makes no sense when your reason is "this post is funny" and even more so when you obviously haven't read the rest of his posts

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

Sup

hey gamer what's poppin

You feel wolfy from a glance

Are you a wolf?

laugh and a half, and whether I was or wasn't I'd be saying no either way. seems like a silly question

This overly self-aware response, but could be explained by an MS mentality or something similar

Just all seems pretty wolfy

@dyachei

[Creature]

Oh shit just lost the energy to play