ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:08 am
I’m 3p, I’m hks partner. We have two wincons. First wincon is kill two wolves. If we kill two wolves, we achieve our wincon, get removed from the game and game continues as it normally would. Second wincon: we survive all the way to the end (just one of us is fine) and we win with whoever is alive. So yeah, we can win by winning with town and eliminating all the wolves. So there’s heavy incentive for us to townside which is why we have. I used hks day vig on dizzy so we already got 1 of our kills. If Alexa is mafia then I get my second and I leave the game if she flips mafia.
As for my abilities, everything lp outed today is….correct. So correct that I wonder if it’s coming from tmi. They perfectly guessed my characters name and some of their abilities. Which are: twice a game I can make myself untargetable to any night actions. I think the night alexa claimed her vest to be popped was the night wolves tried to kill me. That day before eod, I made a post saying tsp was probably a wolf and mac even noticed it and commented on it. I killed dizzy that day. I was pushing mac. And fossed alexa. I’ve been n1d 3 of my last games in a row (excluding didney world). Im a hot commodity for wolves to nk, so yes I do strongly believe wolves had a lot of reason to want me dead.
Start of today Alexa has a sudden epiphany that 3p isn’t eliminated. My guess is she didn’t discuss this in the chat with belzy and pao? Wanna know why? Probably because she didn’t know until sod because she used her rc on me. Why would town alexa rc me if she’s convinced I’m town? Or belzy on d2? It’s because she’s wolf and is trying to rc people mafia can’t push to get misyeeted.
And yeah I know what y’all are gonna say 3p is bad and shouldn’t be trusted, but if I was an evil aligned 3p I have no reason to play this way. I wasn’t being sussed by anyone, I can just keep living off the towncred from dizzy and achieve my wincon if it was an evil one. I wouldn’t invest this much into solving when I’m already in a good spot. So why would I as 3p care so much about townsiding? Because I’m a petty ass bitch and I think wolves chose players so I wanna bury the entire team for not choosing me lol, that’s pmuch it.
Alexa wanted to vig shot Mac just as much as me. So why should a mafiaAlexa do that?
Who's idea was it first?
Also, w/ P&G getting a lot of sus already, it wouldn't be the worst way to gain town cred
It was Alexa's idea first. She said his name before anyone else came with a name.
This whole Alaxa is mafia theory is based on thin air, and a typical way to lose as town.
Alexa should be seen as towncore, let alone make her a chop candicate with 3 mafia left alive.
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:08 am
I’m 3p, I’m hks partner. We have two wincons. First wincon is kill two wolves. If we kill two wolves, we achieve our wincon, get removed from the game and game continues as it normally would. Second wincon: we survive all the way to the end (just one of us is fine) and we win with whoever is alive. So yeah, we can win by winning with town and eliminating all the wolves. So there’s heavy incentive for us to townside which is why we have. I used hks day vig on dizzy so we already got 1 of our kills. If Alexa is mafia then I get my second and I leave the game if she flips mafia.
As for my abilities, everything lp outed today is….correct. So correct that I wonder if it’s coming from tmi. They perfectly guessed my characters name and some of their abilities. Which are: twice a game I can make myself untargetable to any night actions. I think the night alexa claimed her vest to be popped was the night wolves tried to kill me. That day before eod, I made a post saying tsp was probably a wolf and mac even noticed it and commented on it. I killed dizzy that day. I was pushing mac. And fossed alexa. I’ve been n1d 3 of my last games in a row (excluding didney world). Im a hot commodity for wolves to nk, so yes I do strongly believe wolves had a lot of reason to want me dead.
Start of today Alexa has a sudden epiphany that 3p isn’t eliminated. My guess is she didn’t discuss this in the chat with belzy and pao? Wanna know why? Probably because she didn’t know until sod because she used her rc on me. Why would town alexa rc me if she’s convinced I’m town? Or belzy on d2? It’s because she’s wolf and is trying to rc people mafia can’t push to get misyeeted.
And yeah I know what y’all are gonna say 3p is bad and shouldn’t be trusted, but if I was an evil aligned 3p I have no reason to play this way. I wasn’t being sussed by anyone, I can just keep living off the towncred from dizzy and achieve my wincon if it was an evil one. I wouldn’t invest this much into solving when I’m already in a good spot. So why would I as 3p care so much about townsiding? Because I’m a petty ass bitch and I think wolves chose players so I wanna bury the entire team for not choosing me lol, that’s pmuch it.
Alexa wanted to vig shot Mac just as much as me. So why should a mafiaAlexa do that?
Who's idea was it first?
Also, w/ P&G getting a lot of sus already, it wouldn't be the worst way to gain town cred
It was Alexa's idea first. She said his name before anyone else came with a name.
This whole Alaxa is mafia theory is based on thin air, and a typical way to lose as town.
Alexa should be seen as towncore, let alone make her a chop candicate with 3 mafia left alive.
Not to mention it means placing trust in a 3p which... lol
Alexa is not a chop candidate though. She is poisoned and will die regardless at the end of the day. She has indicated as much herself, and ilario claimed credit for the poisoning after alexa had announced it.
This is why I am not leaping to chop ilario this instant. His claim did not alter the game state. He is not asking is to put faith in him. He merely told us what his role is because it provides evidence in support of events that have already happened and actions which have already taken place. We are not being asked to “trust a 3p.”
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:52 pm
Alexa is not a chop candidate though. She is poisoned and will die regardless at the end of the day. She has indicated as much herself, and ilario claimed credit for the poisoning after alexa had announced it.
This is why I am not leaping to chop ilario this instant. His claim did not alter the game state. He is not asking is to put faith in him. He merely told us what his role is because it provides evidence in support of events that have already happened and actions which have already taken place. We are not being asked to “trust a 3p.”
I am referring to this part specifically
"Yup just double checked, game ends when mafia dies"
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:52 pm
Alexa is not a chop candidate though. She is poisoned and will die regardless at the end of the day. She has indicated as much herself, and ilario claimed credit for the poisoning after alexa had announced it.
This is why I am not leaping to chop ilario this instant. His claim did not alter the game state. He is not asking is to put faith in him. He merely told us what his role is because it provides evidence in support of events that have already happened and actions which have already taken place. We are not being asked to “trust a 3p.”
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 5:08 am
I’m 3p, I’m hks partner. We have two wincons. First wincon is kill two wolves. If we kill two wolves, we achieve our wincon, get removed from the game and game continues as it normally would. Second wincon: we survive all the way to the end (just one of us is fine) and we win with whoever is alive. So yeah, we can win by winning with town and eliminating all the wolves. So there’s heavy incentive for us to townside which is why we have. I used hks day vig on dizzy so we already got 1 of our kills. If Alexa is mafia then I get my second and I leave the game if she flips mafia.
As for my abilities, everything lp outed today is….correct. So correct that I wonder if it’s coming from tmi. They perfectly guessed my characters name and some of their abilities. Which are: twice a game I can make myself untargetable to any night actions. I think the night alexa claimed her vest to be popped was the night wolves tried to kill me. That day before eod, I made a post saying tsp was probably a wolf and mac even noticed it and commented on it. I killed dizzy that day. I was pushing mac. And fossed alexa. I’ve been n1d 3 of my last games in a row (excluding didney world). Im a hot commodity for wolves to nk, so yes I do strongly believe wolves had a lot of reason to want me dead.
Start of today Alexa has a sudden epiphany that 3p isn’t eliminated. My guess is she didn’t discuss this in the chat with belzy and pao? Wanna know why? Probably because she didn’t know until sod because she used her rc on me. Why would town alexa rc me if she’s convinced I’m town? Or belzy on d2? It’s because she’s wolf and is trying to rc people mafia can’t push to get misyeeted.
And yeah I know what y’all are gonna say 3p is bad and shouldn’t be trusted, but if I was an evil aligned 3p I have no reason to play this way. I wasn’t being sussed by anyone, I can just keep living off the towncred from dizzy and achieve my wincon if it was an evil one. I wouldn’t invest this much into solving when I’m already in a good spot. So why would I as 3p care so much about townsiding? Because I’m a petty ass bitch and I think wolves chose players so I wanna bury the entire team for not choosing me lol, that’s pmuch it.
Alexa wanted to vig shot Mac just as much as me. So why should a mafiaAlexa do that?
Who's idea was it first?
Also, w/ P&G getting a lot of sus already, it wouldn't be the worst way to gain town cred
It was Alexa's idea first. She said his name before anyone else came with a name.
This whole Alaxa is mafia theory is based on thin air, and a typical way to lose as town.
Alexa should be seen as towncore, let alone make her a chop candicate with 3 mafia left alive.
Not to mention it means placing trust in a 3p which... lol
And if we lynch a townie. Ilario still got three chances to kill a 2nd mafia member himself, which is his wincon.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:52 pm
Alexa is not a chop candidate though. She is poisoned and will die regardless at the end of the day. She has indicated as much herself, and ilario claimed credit for the poisoning after alexa had announced it.
This is why I am not leaping to chop ilario this instant. His claim did not alter the game state. He is not asking is to put faith in him. He merely told us what his role is because it provides evidence in support of events that have already happened and actions which have already taken place. We are not being asked to “trust a 3p.”
What do we do with ilario if alexa flips town?
Eliminate him if it’s safe. Sabie has a vig shot, for instance. I just think the distrust and backlash against ilario here is overblown. I am inclined to say that I believe his claim entitely and hope that he is right.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:52 pm
Alexa is not a chop candidate though. She is poisoned and will die regardless at the end of the day. She has indicated as much herself, and ilario claimed credit for the poisoning after alexa had announced it.
This is why I am not leaping to chop ilario this instant. His claim did not alter the game state. He is not asking is to put faith in him. He merely told us what his role is because it provides evidence in support of events that have already happened and actions which have already taken place. We are not being asked to “trust a 3p.”
What do we do with ilario if alexa flips town?
Eliminate him if it’s safe. Sabie has a vig shot, for instance. I just think the distrust and backlash against ilario here is overblown. I am inclined to say that I believe his claim entitely and hope that he is right.
c'mon man, a 3p literally won GoC last year.
ilario could well be telling the truth but i'd be a fool to believe it.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:52 pm
Alexa is not a chop candidate though. She is poisoned and will die regardless at the end of the day. She has indicated as much herself, and ilario claimed credit for the poisoning after alexa had announced it.
This is why I am not leaping to chop ilario this instant. His claim did not alter the game state. He is not asking is to put faith in him. He merely told us what his role is because it provides evidence in support of events that have already happened and actions which have already taken place. We are not being asked to “trust a 3p.”
What do we do with ilario if alexa flips town?
Eliminate him if it’s safe. Sabie has a vig shot, for instance. I just think the distrust and backlash against ilario here is overblown. I am inclined to say that I believe his claim entitely and hope that he is right.
ftr ilario is probably vested so vigging here would be a waste
I'd allow ilario to live today incase alexa flips wolf and he leaves the game victorious. If he is alive tomorrow and we're not that desperate, we can lynch him. He is probably vested so don't waste vig shots here.
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:55 pm
I confess the world in which alexa is wolf makes things significantly simpler this game.
Maybe too simple, as in too good to be true?
Why not just lynch Paopan
Why is paopan mafia?
He keeps calling the most obvious townies mafia all game long, without taking any progress into account. What about his play is town worthy?
I fear that behavior may just be indicative of paopan.
Every time you post, i scumread you. You are just mafia with Paopon. It has to be. Alexa is town, period. You and Paopon voting for Creature, no, just no.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:52 pm
Alexa is not a chop candidate though. She is poisoned and will die regardless at the end of the day. She has indicated as much herself, and ilario claimed credit for the poisoning after alexa had announced it.
This is why I am not leaping to chop ilario this instant. His claim did not alter the game state. He is not asking is to put faith in him. He merely told us what his role is because it provides evidence in support of events that have already happened and actions which have already taken place. We are not being asked to “trust a 3p.”
What do we do with ilario if alexa flips town?
Eliminate him if it’s safe. Sabie has a vig shot, for instance. I just think the distrust and backlash against ilario here is overblown. I am inclined to say that I believe his claim entitely and hope that he is right.
c'mon man, a 3p literally won GoC last year.
ilario could well be telling the truth but i'd be a fool to believe it.
Context is important. The timing and nature of ilario’s claim influences my response to it, believe it or not.
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 12:55 pm
I confess the world in which alexa is wolf makes things significantly simpler this game.
Maybe too simple, as in too good to be true?
Why not just lynch Paopan
Why is paopan mafia?
He keeps calling the most obvious townies mafia all game long, without taking any progress into account. What about his play is town worthy?
I fear that behavior may just be indicative of paopan.
Every time you post, i scumread you. You are just mafia with Paopon. It has to be. Alexa is town, period. You and Paopon voting for Creature, no, just no.
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:00 pm
also please explain the wilgy and jpic reads sloonei, I want to hear them
It has to do with interactions with flipped wolves. I do not think either of you looked like partners. I can explain in more detail later.
Now ask yourself why wolf sloonei is out here reducing the POE at this stage.
A pocket attempt to lead me into voting creature or some other miselim, while alexa then dies to poison and probably flips town. another town dies during the night. We then focus our efforts on ilario because he is still around and a fallback yeet, and then we all die to soup
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:00 pm
also please explain the wilgy and jpic reads sloonei, I want to hear them
It has to do with interactions with flipped wolves. I do not think either of you looked like partners. I can explain in more detail later.
Now ask yourself why wolf sloonei is out here reducing the POE at this stage.
A pocket attempt to lead me into voting creature or some other miselim, while alexa then dies to poison and probably flips town. another town dies during the night. We then focus our efforts on ilario because he is still around and a fallback yeet, and then we all die to soup
This is too silly for me. I’m out. I’m contemplating claiming right now because the silliness is too strong.
I’ll come back later. Please at least try to entertain a world where alexa is mafia. She is flipping today regardless. And I think that Creeature makes a lot of sense as a teammate of Mac/Tsp anyway. So please look into him as well.
I mean for fuck’s sake. If I’m mafia I need every single person in the POE that I can get. I’m not clearing two of them right away to start the phase whole pushing the most secured player on the list.
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:00 pm
also please explain the wilgy and jpic reads sloonei, I want to hear them
It has to do with interactions with flipped wolves. I do not think either of you looked like partners. I can explain in more detail later.
Now ask yourself why wolf sloonei is out here reducing the POE at this stage.
A pocket attempt to lead me into voting creature or some other miselim, while alexa then dies to poison and probably flips town. another town dies during the night. We then focus our efforts on ilario because he is still around and a fallback yeet, and then we all die to soup
I was banking on ilario claiming 3p?
ok admittedly that part falls apart as I realised you made your reads before the claim which was pretty unexpected.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:10 pm
This is too silly for me. I’m out. I’m contemplating claiming right now because the silliness is too strong.
I’ll come back later. Please at least try to entertain a world where alexa is mafia. She is flipping today regardless. And I think that Creeature makes a lot of sense as a teammate of Mac/Tsp anyway. So please look into him as well.
have you dropped your sabie read or is that still around? No need to claim
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:12 pm
I mean for fuck’s sake. If I’m mafia I need every single person in the POE that I can get. I’m not clearing two of them right away to start the phase whole pushing the most secured player on the list.
You are pushing my townread and leans, and defending my scumreads. The reasons why are everything but convincing me either.
