Halvøsen Ridge [MAFIA WIN]

[NateTheLesser]

nate is hot (physically)

😳

that’s not how i expected you to respond

How did you expect me to respond?

Do you have thoughts on the vote stuff? Nobody's really said much.

[Boquise]

My POE is still Boq/finger/Nate and my mislynch will mean we'll have to find the town among them.

i am trying to be professional here and not vote you because of your refusal to engage with me.

[fingersplints]

I’ve had such a horrible night. My kid has screamed for the past 4 hours. I don’t have much brain capacity for mafia right now, but I’ll try to stay up. It’s unlikely though

[NateTheLesser]

From here on out I'll be spotty and on mobile, so good luck town if I end up going over, hopefully I've left some things to pick over.

[Boquise]

So if I just remove Alison and Lucy from the equation.

I dont think it makes much sense of Nate to try to clear both me and Lucy as scum because that makes the game state much more difficult for him.

The fact that you're not just burying me makes me think I'm right about you.

What do you think of the Lucy post I quoted?

Tho what would the game plan be? Burying seems sorta short-sighted?

Which Lucy post?

Oh you're here! Well, leaving me alive after shielding Jay, and killing Marmot who was heavily sussing me certainly makes it seem like I'm the desired mischop for today. I tend to endgame a lot, so I've developed a keen sense for when I'm the sacrificial lamb.

The post in this quote is the one I'm talking about. Pointing sus directly at Jay very early in Day 3 (before he'd picked up any votes):

Boq and Lucy are just town.

Anyway, this kill indicates at least 1 scum inside Me/JJJ/Alison.

Alison wouldnt really be the kill if town though since she got sussed yesterday.

Why does the kill indicate that

I thought the kill directly points to you, by keeping you and Alison alive it makes it confirmed one is mafia or you'd be killed off more expeditiously before a solve can happen

Boq's "wolf in me/JJJ/Alison" NK idea was one of the first things he said D3, before any votes were on the board. Jay's reaction is to question it. Lucy wasn't asked anything but jumps in to point suspicion directly at Jay.

yeah i agree with you that that makes lucy very much likely to be town tbh

[fingersplints]

[VOTE: Nate] aubergine

[Creature]

I still wanted Alison to show up

[Boquise]

it is noted that Creature is ignoring me and is also not voting to save himself.

[robyn]

nate is hot (physically)

that’s not how i expected you to respond

How did you expect me to respond?

Do you have thoughts on the vote stuff? Nobody's really said much.

trying to read you atm, how confident are you that creature is a wolf?

[Boquise]

Not sure if I am being snowed by Nate or if I am actually reading correctly smh

[Creature]

Damn I really wanted Alison's vote of confidence on this

I'm leaning towards the wolfteam being Boq + Nate and I feel more confident on Boq being wolf because that's where Dyslexicon was leaning into when they died and also because I feel like Boquise hasn't been playing to solve, but rather to follow an agenda

I'm less sure on Nate, but I still remember him pushing a list entirely composed of town yesterday and I feel like wolves' play here is to keep hammering these town names until town budges on them and they get a mislynch. I feel like if wolves decided to bus they could easily fall prey to the POE

[Boquise]

Damn I really wanted Alison's vote of confidence on this

I'm leaning towards the wolfteam being Boq + Nate and I feel more confident on Boq being wolf because that's where Dyslexicon was leaning into when they died and also because I feel like Boquise hasn't been playing to solve, but rather to follow an agenda

I'm less sure on Nate, but I still remember him pushing a list entirely composed of town yesterday and I feel like wolves' play here is to keep hammering these town names until town budges on them and they get a mislynch. I feel like if wolves decided to bus they could easily fall prey to the POE

If you are town, the biggest detrimental is that you have completely refused to engage with me, ignored my posts completely and just kept repeating this line. I have not solved a lot, but I have tried to solve.

[robyn]

Damn I really wanted Alison's vote of confidence on this

I'm leaning towards the wolfteam being Boq + Nate and I feel more confident on Boq being wolf because that's where Dyslexicon was leaning into when they died and also because I feel like Boquise hasn't been playing to solve, but rather to follow an agenda

I'm less sure on Nate, but I still remember him pushing a list entirely composed of town yesterday and I feel like wolves' play here is to keep hammering these town names until town budges on them and they get a mislynch. I feel like if wolves decided to bus they could easily fall prey to the POE

agree 100%

[Boquise]

Actually Creature, convince me to vote Nate over you. You have 20 minutes.

[robyn]

my last 35m in this game, im 100% dead tonight

[Boquise]

And whats my agenda?

[robyn]

Alison, rondo, creature town. lycnh outside of this fr

[robyn]

And whats my agenda?

jihad against non students

[Creature]

And whats my agenda?

I feel like you seem to already know where to go each day instead of the usual mess town are.

[Creature]

I will prob end up going where Alison is going maybe.

[Boquise]

If Nate is scum, he is scum with either Creature or Fingers. Scum is forced to distance. That is like the largest elimination I can do in teams, considering Creature could be wolf with Rondo and Fingers too, and Fingers with Rondo as well.

I am aware that I might be ultra pocketed by Rondo but I want to hold that line for a bit longer. Rondo is not scum with Nate at the very least, so if Nate flips scum I would clear Rondo completely.

[robyn]

nate is hot (physically)

that’s not how i expected you to respond

How did you expect me to respond?

Do you have thoughts on the vote stuff? Nobody's really said much.

usually when a 18yo says that to a 40yo you go against it hard, like seriously shut it down. one emoji is 100% due to not playing by your own emotions, since I'm town mafia would go around and placate me, maybe get me to Lynch creature lmao

[Creature]

ftr Mac died calling me town, Seanzie died calling me town and Marmot died calling me town

Even if you go fuck all and believe I would kill the players townreading me, I'd point that they're all players who have seen me town and seen me wolf so their read on me should be more trustworthy. Even Alison was townreading me (at least last I saw)

[Boquise]

And whats my agenda?

I feel like you seem to already know where to go each day instead of the usual mess town are.

This is ftr the first time you respond to one of my posts for days.

Where I am going right now Creature? Do I start the day with all town reads and push absolutely no one for a whole day, is that my agenda? Push no one?

[Boquise]

ftr Mac died calling me town, Seanzie died calling me town and Marmot died calling me town

Even if you go fuck all and believe I would kill the players townreading me, I'd point that they're all players who have seen me town and seen me wolf so their read on me should be more trustworthy. Even Alison was townreading me (at least last I saw)

pretty sure all those three players called me town too yet here you are, death tunnelling me in the most lazy manner possible.
Had I been misyeeted yesterday, you would have a townie with the legacy "Creature wolf"

[Boquise]

nate is hot (physically)

that’s not how i expected you to respond

How did you expect me to respond?

Do you have thoughts on the vote stuff? Nobody's really said much.

usually when a 18yo says that to a 40yo you go against it hard, like seriously shut it down. one emoji is 100% due to not playing by your own emotions, since I'm town mafia would go around and placate me, maybe get me to Lynch creature lmao

wtf

[robyn]

If Nate is scum, he is scum with either Creature or Fingers. Scum is forced to distance. That is like the largest elimination I can do in teams, considering Creature could be wolf with Rondo and Fingers too, and Fingers with Rondo as well.

I am aware that I might be ultra pocketed by Rondo but I want to hold that line for a bit longer. Rondo is not scum with Nate at the very least, so if Nate flips scum I would clear Rondo completely.

I don't think he's skilled enough to play this game as scum, seems too sporadic and random for any underlying plan, 100% town imo

[Creature]

And whats my agenda?

I feel like you seem to already know where to go each day instead of the usual mess town are.

This is ftr the first time you respond to one of my posts for days.

Where I am going right now Creature? Do I start the day with all town reads and push absolutely no one for a whole day, is that my agenda? Push no one?

Meh fair
This is already pointing at semantics because I am not sure if scum read Alison and I think I have done some decent analysis there

It feels like a low hanging fruit to go at considering all the other context I have provided

Also Nate is town

JJJ seems to emotionally want me to be a wolf and I read that as a townie mindset

I like that post from Marmot that we are talking past each other

Rondo is pure town and him trying to still figure me out on this is more town points

Left with Creature/Alison/Fingers

This is one of the sequence of posts that bother me. It feels like you've pushed yourself into townreading JJJ (and possibly Nate if he's wolf too) and got a POE that could very easily be all town. I feel like wolf's play D4 was to strongarm another mislynch and so on, because bussing at that point wasn't really needed as town was quickly losing numbers and all over the place.

[Boquise]

tho idr but did Fingers and Rondo have an argument? Because I thiiiink I could clear them as a team then too.

[robyn]

nate is hot (physically)

that’s not how i expected you to respond

How did you expect me to respond?

Do you have thoughts on the vote stuff? Nobody's really said much.

usually when a 18yo says that to a 40yo you go against it hard, like seriously shut it down. one emoji is 100% due to not playing by your own emotions, since I'm town mafia would go around and placate me, maybe get me to Lynch creature lmao

wtf

exactly lmao

[robyn]

I'm fairly certain Alison is town

[robyn]

boq is right, if nate is w then Alison town 100%

[Boquise]

And whats my agenda?

I feel like you seem to already know where to go each day instead of the usual mess town are.

This is ftr the first time you respond to one of my posts for days.

Where I am going right now Creature? Do I start the day with all town reads and push absolutely no one for a whole day, is that my agenda? Push no one?

Meh fair
This is already pointing at semantics because I am not sure if scum read Alison and I think I have done some decent analysis there

It feels like a low hanging fruit to go at considering all the other context I have provided

Also Nate is town

JJJ seems to emotionally want me to be a wolf and I read that as a townie mindset

I like that post from Marmot that we are talking past each other

Rondo is pure town and him trying to still figure me out on this is more town points

Left with Creature/Alison/Fingers

This is one of the sequence of posts that bother me. It feels like you've pushed yourself into townreading JJJ (and possibly Nate if he's wolf too) and got a POE that could very easily be all town. I feel like wolf's play D4 was to strongarm another mislynch and so on, because bussing at that point wasn't really needed as town was quickly losing numbers and all over the place.

I did not push myself to town read JJJ. My progression for my read on him was organic and can be followed.
You on the other hand came to a sudden conclusion, without zero explanation, that I must be a wolf if Ender is town at PRE FLIP ENDER. That is playing for an agenda.

[Creature]

GTH who is the exact mafia team?

Everyone pls answer

If I had to pick an exact team right now I'd say Marmot/Alison/Creature.

What's your answer?

I also suspected Nate for having a probably all town wolf picks

[robyn]

creature is similarly not a good enough player to play this far outside of his scum range this game, he'd have messed up

[Boquise]

also fingers just jumping in to place a vote on Nate is kinda lmao.

[robyn]

also fingers just jumping in to place a vote on Nate is kinda lmao.

agreed, idk how to feel about it

[NateTheLesser]

nate is hot (physically)

😳

that’s not how i expected you to respond

How did you expect me to respond?

Do you have thoughts on the vote stuff? Nobody's really said much.

trying to read you atm, how confident are you that creature is a wolf?

I've made it clear that I think there's a wolf in creature or Allison bc at least one teammate would want to be on his wagon at eod.

[Boquise]

creature is similarly not a good enough player to play this far outside of his scum range this game, he'd have messed up

Have you played with Creature before?
You should not underestimate Creature's scum game, nor do I think that he'd have "messed up" by now, considering he has just reposted the same message for like 3 game days.

[Boquise]

GTH who is the exact mafia team?

Everyone pls answer

If I had to pick an exact team right now I'd say Marmot/Alison/Creature.

What's your answer?

I also suspected Nate for having a probably all town wolf picks

town doesnt have tmi and can therefore have a completely wrong poe

[NateTheLesser]

nate is hot (physically)

😳

that’s not how i expected you to respond

How did you expect me to respond?

Do you have thoughts on the vote stuff? Nobody's really said much.

usually when a 18yo says that to a 40yo you go against it hard, like seriously shut it down. one emoji is 100% due to not playing by your own emotions, since I'm town mafia would go around and placate me, maybe get me to Lynch creature lmao

I truly don't know what to do with your age reads.

[robyn]

creature is similarly not a good enough player to play this far outside of his scum range this game, he'd have messed up

Have you played with Creature before?
You should not underestimate Creature's scum game, nor do I think that he'd have "messed up" by now, considering he has just reposted the same message for like 3 game days.

never, and that he has, but in my experience if you play like that you're either auto read by your friends/people you've played with before, or you can't be read and people won't try

[Creature]

nate is hot (physically)

that’s not how i expected you to respond

How did you expect me to respond?

Do you have thoughts on the vote stuff? Nobody's really said much.

trying to read you atm, how confident are you that creature is a wolf?

I've made it clear that I think there's a wolf in creature or Allison bc at least one teammate would want to be on his wagon at eod.

Not necessarily. JJJ at least initially seemed focused on pushing mislynches so it feels like wolves were aiming to get another mislynch. I remember there being like three or more alternate wagons (Alison, Boquise, dunno who else) before I moved to JJJ so it was definitely possible.

[Boquise]

creature is similarly not a good enough player to play this far outside of his scum range this game, he'd have messed up

Have you played with Creature before?
You should not underestimate Creature's scum game, nor do I think that he'd have "messed up" by now, considering he has just reposted the same message for like 3 game days.

never, and that he has, but in my experience if you play like that you're either auto read by your friends/people you've played with before, or you can't be read and people won't try

i dont see how that disqualifies him as scum tbh
Creature has been miscleared before tbh

[robyn]

nate is hot (physically)

that’s not how i expected you to respond

How did you expect me to respond?

Do you have thoughts on the vote stuff? Nobody's really said much.

trying to read you atm, how confident are you that creature is a wolf?

I've made it clear that I think there's a wolf in creature or Allison bc at least one teammate would want to be on his wagon at eod.

and if that eod wagon is clean? a point Alison brought up was that creature came out of nowhere and voted jjj when he didn't have to, hmmmm which could be bussing but that would be too obvious and disadvantageous for the game state, jjj wouldn't allow such a play

[Boquise]

nate is hot (physically)

that’s not how i expected you to respond

How did you expect me to respond?

Do you have thoughts on the vote stuff? Nobody's really said much.

trying to read you atm, how confident are you that creature is a wolf?

I've made it clear that I think there's a wolf in creature or Allison bc at least one teammate would want to be on his wagon at eod.

Not necessarily. JJJ at least initially seemed focused on pushing mislynches so it feels like wolves were aiming to get another mislynch. I remember there being like three or more alternate wagons (Alison, Boquise, dunno who else) before I moved to JJJ so it was definitely possible.

so JJJ focused on pushing misyeets, so it feels like wolves were aiming to get another misyeet
and your wagon examples for that theory is me and Alison.

I thought you scum read me?

[NateTheLesser]

nate is hot (physically)

😳

that’s not how i expected you to respond

How did you expect me to respond?

Do you have thoughts on the vote stuff? Nobody's really said much.

trying to read you atm, how confident are you that creature is a wolf?

I've made it clear that I think there's a wolf in creature or Allison bc at least one teammate would want to be on his wagon at eod.

Not necessarily. JJJ at least initially seemed focused on pushing mislynches so it feels like wolves were aiming to get another mislynch. I remember there being like three or more alternate wagons (Alison, Boquise, dunno who else) before I moved to JJJ so it was definitely possible.

Jay didn't even vote

[robyn]

nate is hot (physically)

that’s not how i expected you to respond

How did you expect me to respond?

Do you have thoughts on the vote stuff? Nobody's really said much.

usually when a 18yo says that to a 40yo you go against it hard, like seriously shut it down. one emoji is 100% due to not playing by your own emotions, since I'm town mafia would go around and placate me, maybe get me to Lynch creature lmao

I truly don't know what to do with your age reads.

do you agree with the first sentence?

[Boquise]

the biggest point in Creature's favour is that I dont think he'd place that vote as scum. My picture of wolf!Creature is that he doesn't do what's on paper suboptimal wolf play.

[robyn]

if nate is wolf that clears Alison and boq 100%, boq is 100% town if nate scum