Dr. Who Mafia - Night 12

Chris · #6901

Thanks SVS.

*starts to build a list of people who wouldn't replace out of an awesome role no matter what*

- keys
- me

Um... who else?

#6902

Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:Okay, I voted for Snow Dog. It looks like Dom is going to be lynched anyway, but anything could happen. I just don't feel comfortable following Epig's claims about Dom without any substantiation, and although I feel Zeek's passion for this idea, I don't think that amount of evidence for his case amounts to more than what I saw in Snow Dog's posts that some, including I, deemed "Bass supportive".

Dom is one of my number one candidates to be The Master, but it's just based on the way he seems like an enigma... his play, and the relative lack of suspicion he has received until recently, seems like The Master! Pure gut, and I'm hesitant to follow pure gut (unlike keys?). To be honest, I also feel like Strax would be smart to play the same way. But hell, what role wouldn't benefit from a game of little suspicion and relative spotlight-free play?
If you want games with substantiation, try "Battleship."

This is Mafia.
Well... most, if not all players attempt to substantiate their claims in this game, why won't you? It's pushing me away from voting Dom because it makes you seem bad. Like, you don't have a real reason to say these things, but instead are being manipulative like an evil dude. You could be The Master. The Master isn't a rolechecker or on a team with a rolechecker, that was your original lie detector statement, right?
I have no problem with seeming bad. I always seem bad. I could make a career out of it.

How do you substantiate your claims against LMS?

I'm just goin by a spreadsheet, Chief.

Well, your spreadsheet is wrong.

Chris wrote:Dom, I was saying that you've been saying that.

AKA, I've been defending the shit outta you for the last 2 or 3 hours...

I hope I don't get burned for this...

I know and I appreciate it.

#6903

I never get replaced.

#6904

Thank you, keys.

#6905

MP, LC, your help would be greatly appreciated!

#6906

We truly are fucked then, aren't we?

#6907

Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:Okay, I voted for Snow Dog. It looks like Dom is going to be lynched anyway, but anything could happen. I just don't feel comfortable following Epig's claims about Dom without any substantiation, and although I feel Zeek's passion for this idea, I don't think that amount of evidence for his case amounts to more than what I saw in Snow Dog's posts that some, including I, deemed "Bass supportive".

Dom is one of my number one candidates to be The Master, but it's just based on the way he seems like an enigma... his play, and the relative lack of suspicion he has received until recently, seems like The Master! Pure gut, and I'm hesitant to follow pure gut (unlike keys?). To be honest, I also feel like Strax would be smart to play the same way. But hell, what role wouldn't benefit from a game of little suspicion and relative spotlight-free play?
If you want games with substantiation, try "Battleship."

This is Mafia.
Well... most, if not all players attempt to substantiate their claims in this game, why won't you? It's pushing me away from voting Dom because it makes you seem bad. Like, you don't have a real reason to say these things, but instead are being manipulative like an evil dude. You could be The Master. The Master isn't a rolechecker or on a team with a rolechecker, that was your original lie detector statement, right?
I have no problem with seeming bad. I always seem bad. I could make a career out of it.

How do you substantiate your claims against LMS?

I'm just goin by a spreadsheet, Chief.

Well, I don't have a spreadsheet, Pal.

How about sharing? Didn't yo momma teach you to share? Your spreadsheet has the ability to translate back into the game-based events that led to its current state, right? So, what events led you to cross off keys, Hedgeowl, everyone else except Dom and Nijuu, from being The Master? I don't understand your refusal to explain your logic, it makes no sense to me. Are you claiming that your refusal to share the logic is a ploy to make you seem more baddie?

#6908

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:Okay, I voted for Snow Dog. It looks like Dom is going to be lynched anyway, but anything could happen. I just don't feel comfortable following Epig's claims about Dom without any substantiation, and although I feel Zeek's passion for this idea, I don't think that amount of evidence for his case amounts to more than what I saw in Snow Dog's posts that some, including I, deemed "Bass supportive".

Dom is one of my number one candidates to be The Master, but it's just based on the way he seems like an enigma... his play, and the relative lack of suspicion he has received until recently, seems like The Master! Pure gut, and I'm hesitant to follow pure gut (unlike keys?). To be honest, I also feel like Strax would be smart to play the same way. But hell, what role wouldn't benefit from a game of little suspicion and relative spotlight-free play?
If you want games with substantiation, try "Battleship."

This is Mafia.
Well... most, if not all players attempt to substantiate their claims in this game, why won't you? It's pushing me away from voting Dom because it makes you seem bad. Like, you don't have a real reason to say these things, but instead are being manipulative like an evil dude. You could be The Master. The Master isn't a rolechecker or on a team with a rolechecker, that was your original lie detector statement, right?
I have no problem with seeming bad. I always seem bad. I could make a career out of it.

How do you substantiate your claims against LMS?

I'm just goin by a spreadsheet, Chief.
Well, I don't have a spreadsheet, Pal. How about sharing? Didn't yo momma teach you to share? Your spreadsheet has the ability to translate back into the game-based events that led to its current state, right? So, what events led you to cross off keys, Hedgeowl, everyone else except Dom and Nijuu, from being The Master? I don't understand your refusal to explain your logic, it makes no sense to me. Are you claiming that your refusal to share the logic is a ploy to make you seem more baddie?

I cannot share that info without outing myself. Sorry. I don't do that. Even if it is allowed here.

#6909

zeek wrote:We truly are fucked then, aren't we?

DFaraday, Hedgeowl, S~V~S, and Gotrees still haven't voted.

Also, a tied vote could reveal the Cyber Head, which would be cool.

As long as Amy Pond stays out of it.

Chris · #6910

Long Con wrote:
zeek wrote:We truly are fucked then, aren't we?
DFaraday, Hedgeowl, S~V~S, and Gotrees still haven't voted.

Also, a tied vote could reveal the Cyber Head, which would be cool. As long as Amy Pond stays out of it.

Right now, Dom is going to be lynched by 1 vote.

#6911

Epignosis wrote:I cannot share that info without outing myself. Sorry. I don't do that. Even if it is allowed here.

And if Dom turns up Civvie, you'll be committed to Nijuu being the Master?

#6912

Dom, I have no idea what I'm doing, haha. At this stage I'm not even sure about Chris and Snow Dog anymore.

#6913

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I cannot share that info without outing myself. Sorry. I don't do that. Even if it is allowed here.
And if Dom turns up Civvie, you'll be committed to Nijuu being the Master?

Yes.

Chris · #6914

keys56000000000 wrote:Dom, I have no idea what I'm doing, haha. At this stage I'm not even sure about Chris and Snow Dog anymore.

I can tell you that you're batting .500

Great in baseball, only ok in mafia.

#6915

Voting Faraday, the case was good before the hint, and I am not sure I believe it.

#6916

keys56000000000 wrote:I've got nothing on Hedgeowl. She appears to be a great civvie, completely clean. Looking for a case against her in her posts is like looking up at a smooth glass building and wondering how to climb it barehanded. If you're bad, Hedgeowl, bravo! You are an adversary of refreshingly high calibre.

I'm going to change my vote, but to whom?

Well, glad to have your questions answered.

#6917

Okay, one last time.

I KNOW Dom is bad.

Chris · #6918

Gotrees, you plan on voting? I see you there lurking...

#6919

Okay, I'm a bit late to the party (sorry), but it looks like it's between Dom and DF right now. I don't want to waste my vote again, so I'm gonna vote Dom tonight.

Between the two, I just don't understand how it could be DF. As a quieter player, I sympathize with him, and he comes across as genuine to me. At the very beginning of the game, Dom was overly-anxious to vote for Made, and I think he got some slack for that because most people ended up agreeing with him, but lately he seems to be a lot less anxious to accuse people like that. Might it be because he has fewer lives left to lose?

With everyone else's theories thrown in as well, the arrows point more to Dom tonight, it seems to me.

#6920

Chris wrote:Gotrees, you plan on voting? I see you there lurking...

Yes.

#6921

Chris wrote:
Long Con wrote:
zeek wrote:We truly are fucked then, aren't we?
DFaraday, Hedgeowl, S~V~S, and Gotrees still haven't voted.

Also, a tied vote could reveal the Cyber Head, which would be cool. As long as Amy Pond stays out of it.

Right now, Dom is going to be lynched by 1 vote.

Interesting. And if DFaraday is lynched over Dom in a tie, then you would consider Snow Dog to be the Cyber Role Blocker?

#6922

Alright, I feel fairly sure that DF is not the master, so I will vote Dom seeing as he is still a question.

Votes Dom

Linki

#6923

Dom won't be lynched. Ten bucks.

#6924

zeek wrote:Okay, one last time.

I KNOW Dom is bad.

Do you, though? Do you know?

Chris · #6925

So to be clear Gotrees, you're voting Dom based on your gut that he's bad?

And fewer lives left to be lost? He never survived an NK...

I don't understand your vote to be honest...

LINKI @ LC: No, Snow Dog is The Cyber Head.

#6926

I leave for work and the vote is split between like 5 people. I have to work late and come home to find all those other suspects gone and me in the lead again?

Gotrees wrote:Okay, I'm a bit late to the party (sorry), but it looks like it's between Dom and DF right now. I don't want to waste my vote again, so I'm gonna vote Dom tonight.

Between the two, I just don't understand how it could be DF. As a quieter player, I sympathize with him, and he comes across as genuine to me. At the very beginning of the game, Dom was overly-anxious to vote for Made, and I think he got some slack for that because most people ended up agreeing with him, but lately he seems to be a lot less anxious to accuse people like that. Might it be because he has fewer lives left to lose?

With everyone else's theories thrown in as well, the arrows point more to Dom tonight, it seems to me.

Gotrees, you're my new favorite person.

Obviously *Votes Dom*

#6927

keys56000000000 wrote:
zeek wrote:Okay, one last time.

I KNOW Dom is bad.
Do you, though? Do you know?

Yes.

#6928

Epignosis wrote:Dom won't be lynched. Ten bucks.

If Dom is Strax, will you vote for yourself next lynch?

#6929

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Dom won't be lynched. Ten bucks.
If Dom is Strax, will you vote for yourself next lynch?

If Dom ain't, will you vote for yourself?

#6930

Chris wrote:So to be clear Gotrees, you're voting Dom based on your gut that he's bad?

And fewer lives left to be lost? He never survived an NK...

I don't understand your vote to be honest...

LINKI @ LC: No, Snow Dog is The Cyber Head.

I voted Dom because he seems more bad than DF.

Chris · #6931

We need MP's vote to make it a real tie. (And a behind the scenes tie too!)

#6932

I voted DF to make it 7-6 with Dom going down. If Snow Dog is The Head then it's 8-6 Dom. If DF goes down, then we'll need to re-evaluate who Snow Dog is supposed to be, right?

Chris · #6933

zeek, I hope you're right.

#6934

Chris wrote:zeek, I hope you're right.

I am, listen to me next time.

Chris · #6935

LC, if the head is on DF's votes, it's only worth 2, so it'll be a tie.

#6936

Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Dom won't be lynched. Ten bucks.
If Dom is Strax, will you vote for yourself next lynch?
If Dom ain't, will you vote for yourself?

No, that makes no sense. I'm not making the case he's Strax or not Strax, it's not my name on the line here.

#6937

zeek wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:
zeek wrote:Okay, one last time.

I KNOW Dom is bad.
Do you, though? Do you know?
Yes.

And you know what the word "know" means, right? You know what it is to know? I.e. you literally had confirmation that Dom is bad? Because I don't believe that's what you mean to tell us. You merely [ithink[/i] Dom's The Master, based on your observations, correct?

#6938

Chris wrote:LC, if the head is on DF's votes, it's only worth 2, so it'll be a tie.

Perfect. Well, 50% chance of perfect? I dunno, who knows what would happen in a real tie? Possible great information!

I think Dom will be the lynched though, we'll see if it pleases us.

#6939

keys56000000000 wrote:
zeek wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:
zeek wrote:Okay, one last time.

I KNOW Dom is bad.
Do you, though? Do you know?
Yes.
And you know what the word "know" means, right? You know what it is to know? I.e. you literally had confirmation that Dom is bad? Because I don't believe that's what you mean to tell us. You merely [ithink[/i] Dom's The Master, based on your observations, correct?

Zeek the Lie Detector?

#6940

And now we have to endure Dom lying about ways he isn't the Master until he's lost is other protections.

linki - I know, keys. I know it.
linki 2 - no.

#6941

Welp, I'm gonna be honest with you all-- it's gonna look a lot like me being the Master-- and this is why I didn't want to be lynched.

But, alas, I am not.

#6942

Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Dom won't be lynched. Ten bucks.
If Dom is Strax, will you vote for yourself next lynch?
If Dom ain't, will you vote for yourself?
No, that makes no sense. I'm not making the case he's Strax or not Strax, it's not my name on the line here.

If I'm right, will you vote how I want you to vote from here on out?

Of course not. So why ask what you asked?

#6943

Dom wrote:Welp, I'm gonna be honest with you all-- it's gonna look a lot like me being the Master-- and this is why I didn't want to be lynched.

But, alas, I am not.

Thanks for the warning, feb.

#6944

Dom wrote:Welp, I'm gonna be honest with you all-- it's gonna look a lot like me being the Master-- and this is why I didn't want to be lynched.

But, alas, I am not.

Nice. Good start. Be quiet though

#6945

Orly Dom?

Chris · #6946

Dom wrote:Welp, I'm gonna be honest with you all-- it's gonna look a lot like me being the Master-- and this is why I didn't want to be lynched.

But, alas, I am not.

There's nothing to suggest any civ can survive a lynch.

How are you going to explain surviving?

#6947

Battle of the Jacks is coming, Chris.

#6948

Chris wrote:
Dom wrote:Welp, I'm gonna be honest with you all-- it's gonna look a lot like me being the Master-- and this is why I didn't want to be lynched.

But, alas, I am not.
There's nothing to suggest any civ can survive a lynch.

How are you going to explain surviving?

^whs.

Did you get a prize?

Chris · #6949

zeek wrote:Battle of the Jacks is coming, Chris.

No, it's not.

#6950

Chris wrote:
Dom wrote:Welp, I'm gonna be honest with you all-- it's gonna look a lot like me being the Master-- and this is why I didn't want to be lynched.

But, alas, I am not.
There's nothing to suggest any civ can survive a lynch.

How are you going to explain surviving?

There are absolutely ways civs can survive a lynch.

But I'm not allowed to talk about why I will survive this lynch. There is more to this game than meets the eye.

24 Hour Days?