Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]

[Sabiplz]

@Cape90 you played gym class mafia on here with Falcon. You both were mafia.

Thoughts

[Sabiplz]

Anyway I'll prob spend this night reading books I bought yesterday

Do you have no thoughts or comments to make

[hollowkatt]

guillo, rask, iawy, sabi, among others are giving me good vibes at the moment

[Creature]

You all got no thoughts on players who have been actually posting?

[Creature]

Anyway I'll prob spend this night reading books I bought yesterday

Do you have no thoughts or comments to make

Yes, I do. Pushing falcon and me for dipping off is a pretty lazy thing to do and strikes as wolf scared to make enemies active in-thread.

[Creature]

Falcon entrance is exactly nai for him p sure

Creature on the other hand

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

This is someone who comes into mind

[Cape90]

Cape, can you teply to Iawy pls?

If i didnt i wouldnt post it.

I don't think DrZeus is drunk fwiw. it is getting interesting lol.

This is TMI, maybe. DrZeus/Petit might be w/w

[VOTE: Guillotina] aubergine

No chance you believe this read

My reply was to this post

there always seems to be a drive behind things you say Guillotina but the reasons you called DZ/Petit are convoluted

Like are you implying that Petit just knows that DZ isn't drunk because they talked in wolf chat and DZ was totally sober and Petit just HAD to say something about it in the thread or something?

Even if what you say is true, I still don't think you thought out the post

[Inawordyes]

I kind of think IAWY is town just for his push on falcon off of DZ

Yh falcon wolfy

- pop in
- joke vote
- turns joke vote real
- ghosts

Vibes of forced solving and fear of rvs

My two reads:
Nut v

Falcon w

You know what, I looked at his ISO and I agree

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

What about it is townie? I gave no thoughts of my own, nor have I followed up on the topic since

I didn't explain just because IDK how to fully explain it but I will try

To me this sort of sheeping someone else early is town indicative moreso then not. It isn't something that is overexplained, but there is a slight reason there besides a naked vote.
I like to call reads like this a pattern read since it is more a pattern I notice via town versus mafia
I know you have your whole vibe read thing too, so I have that familiarity with you and you can partially also call it a vibe
In fact I find your method of scumreading falcon probs townier then DZ just on principle of I think just DZ saying that and making you yourself check falcon. Well, he didn't make you, you went out of your way to check falcon's ISO off this post to see if DZ's claim had viability.
no thoughts of my own is technically correct, but all falcon really did was pop in and then just vote Sabi for rickroll then dipped basically.

How would you follow up on the topic if between this time and the time you posted this falcon has said nothing? I would be more concerned about this if it was EOD, you had a static vote on falcon and you haven't addressed he hasn't done anything since you voted falcon originally

That makes sense, and I appreciate you mentioning the bolded just because that was my exact thought process when I saw Zeus' post

I define "follow up" in this instance as explaining why I agree and my own reasons for thinking Falcon was wolfy based on his ISO. I completely understand the point you're making, I just mentally approached it from a different perspective

[Inawordyes]

guillo, rask, iawy, sabi, among others are giving me good vibes at the moment

my apologies

[Sabiplz]

Anyway I'll prob spend this night reading books I bought yesterday

Do you have no thoughts or comments to make

Yes, I do. Pushing falcon and me for dipping off is a pretty lazy thing to do and strikes as wolf scared to make enemies active in-thread.

I do think dz has been wolfy.

Iawy feels awkward and flaily.

Not going to try to read Nutella till d2

Quas has been solvey but idk if it's fake able or not.

Schiav seems comfortable and not stiff,getting towny pings.

[Cape90]

@Cape90 you played gym class mafia on here with Falcon. You both were mafia.

Thoughts

could be mafia, could be town

Literally do not know yet, he never strikes me as the type of player who is immediately noticeable as town when he is town

[Creature]

Ok yeah I think Schiavetto looks better in here than the mash.

[Guillotine]

Cape, can you teply to Iawy pls?

If i didnt i wouldnt post it.

I don't think DrZeus is drunk fwiw. it is getting interesting lol.

This is TMI, maybe. DrZeus/Petit might be w/w

[VOTE: Guillotina] aubergine

No chance you believe this read

My reply was to this post

there always seems to be a drive behind things you say Guillotina but the reasons you called DZ/Petit are convoluted

Like are you implying that Petit just knows that DZ isn't drunk because they talked in wolf chat and DZ was totally sober and Petit just HAD to say something about it in the thread or something?

Even if what you say is true, I still don't think you thought out the post

Yes! It looked like Petit knew DZ was faking being drunk. Otherwise, how do you explain why he thought thhat eh?

[risiinq-]

I count quas as trying this game

Im used to him on mu not trying cuz its mashes (other than that one time he wolfed and went on a victory lap) but have seen him on 2+2 trying

Sonot sure i hVe hVe relevant meta but do know hes considsddd amongst elite







This has such little game relevanxe

so i previously had no thoughts on dz and only saw him have many votes and be wolfread a lot

and i even kinda started to confbias thinking he might be wolf or smth

but this post seems really towny

so yea. dz might be town

[Creature]

I dislike that pyxxy disappeared and is no longer reading the thread after I remark how pyxxy is reading the thread and not posting

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

This feels like a lead worth pursuing

Looking at it now this push feels awkward and uncharacteristic for IAWY. The last sentence looks forced.

[Sabiplz]

OK maybe creature isn't wolfu

[risiinq-]

Petit's gross for the hasty vill read off of zero knowledge about me or the horse I came in on + weirdly self-aware followup



but.

But!!!!


If I am wrong and petit is town thatn quas is maybe wolfy for sliding in on that

or i'm wrong in both worlds but that would be p embarrassing, we won't talk abt that possibility

these two schia posts were very wolfy, but apparently they have a wolfgame in a mash so im not gonna make any evaluations yet - as the rest of their posts are ok.

[Valentine]

yeah this is going to be a valentine needs her hand held game isnt it

Whom should i give an opinion on @ anyone

[risiinq-]

i really want to townread sabi again :/

[Cape90]

@Cape90 you played gym class mafia on here with Falcon. You both were mafia.

Thoughts

if you think I am joking about falcon wolf

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2393

this is the wolf game

it has 3 posts and none of which are related to the game in any sort of way. Keep an eye there and falcon probably becomes an easy read

take this for comparison

https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2427

which is falcon as town

[Schiavetto]

Petit's gross for the hasty vill read off of zero knowledge about me or the horse I came in on + weirdly self-aware followup



but.

But!!!!


If I am wrong and petit is town thatn quas is maybe wolfy for sliding in on that

or i'm wrong in both worlds but that would be p embarrassing, we won't talk abt that possibility

these two schia posts were very wolfy, but apparently they have a wolfgame in a mash so im not gonna make any evaluations yet - as the rest of their posts are ok.

What's Wolfy About Them

[Creature]

Hi pyxxy

Got something?

[nutella]

Quas has been solvey

citation?

[Sabiplz]

i really want to townread sabi again :/

Kill me before limlo.

[Creature]

Am I seriously gonna miss reading GoT for the first time tonight?

[falcon45ca]

Yh falcon wolfy

- pop in
- joke vote
- turns joke vote real
- ghosts

Vibes of forced solving and fear of rvs

My two reads:
Nut v

Falcon w

You know what, I looked at his ISO and I agree

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

You agree, eh?


Talk to me about ghosting...how do you define it?

[Sabiplz]

Quas has been solvey

citation?

Miswrote quas, cape has been solvey.

[Inawordyes]

I kind of think IAWY is town just for his push on falcon off of DZ

Yh falcon wolfy

- pop in
- joke vote
- turns joke vote real
- ghosts

Vibes of forced solving and fear of rvs

My two reads:
Nut v

Falcon w

You know what, I looked at his ISO and I agree

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

What about it is townie? I gave no thoughts of my own, nor have I followed up on the topic since

I didn't explain just because IDK how to fully explain it but I will try

To me this sort of sheeping someone else early is town indicative moreso then not. It isn't something that is overexplained, but there is a slight reason there besides a naked vote.
I like to call reads like this a pattern read since it is more a pattern I notice via town versus mafia
I know you have your whole vibe read thing too, so I have that familiarity with you and you can partially also call it a vibe
In fact I find your method of scumreading falcon probs townier then DZ just on principle of I think just DZ saying that and making you yourself check falcon. Well, he didn't make you, you went out of your way to check falcon's ISO off this post to see if DZ's claim had viability.
no thoughts of my own is technically correct, but all falcon really did was pop in and then just vote Sabi for rickroll then dipped basically.

How would you follow up on the topic if between this time and the time you posted this falcon has said nothing? I would be more concerned about this if it was EOD, you had a static vote on falcon and you haven't addressed he hasn't done anything since you voted falcon originally

That makes sense, and I appreciate you mentioning the bolded just because that was my exact thought process when I saw Zeus' post

I define "follow up" in this instance as explaining why I agree and my own reasons for thinking Falcon was wolfy based on his ISO. I completely understand the point you're making, I just mentally approached it from a different perspective

to that end specifically, being that I brought it up,

Falcon's OP feels very forced and reads tonally awkward. I am aware it makes me a bit of a hypocrite saying that considering that I already get on people for scumreading my OPs, but unless it's a direct quote from somewhere (in which case, it is manufactured, just as a copypasta), it feels like trying too hard to have an interesting OP rather than being a natural flow. That puts Falcon in a rough spot for me, because from the getgo the vibe he gives off is very stilted, and that makes me look at his posts after with a critical eye

Reading it through, and putting my thoughts onto paper, I think I jumped the gun a bit on the agreement and was moreso just wanting to agree with Sabi because I took the time to look at Falcon's ISO, rather than giving Falcon's ISO actual, methodical consideration. It doesn't read as bad now on a second run-through. HOWEVER, I do not like his 6th post (which has been posted since my post so there is new content to consider RE: your commentary Cape). Falcon's gone for almost an hour and a half, makes a comment on Zeus that isn't too far post-wise from the last post he quoted-commented on, and then vanishes again. Let alone the fact that he still seems to be in RVS mode an hour later while most have switched to finding game stuff, commenting specifically on a Zeus post to be another peddler of the "Zeus is sober" conspiracy (which is great btw, I want to hear more about that genuinely) when Zeus is the one who's saying that Falcon is mafia, reads in-context to be a very subtle dig at Zeus' credibility to paint him untrustworthy. What might you need to trust Zeus on? A w!Falcon read, for example

So I don't like that, at all, and of all players to comment on before disappearing again, and of all things to say about said player, it's the one player who's scumreading him, combined with a comment that throws more fuel into the fire of a thought that convenient paints said player in a shady manner, which benefits Falcon if it makes even one person put less stock into Zeus' thoughts about Falcon being mafia. If that makes any sense, I know where I'm going with the thought but I don't know if I'm explaining it properly

Regardless, back to here I go! [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[Sabiplz]

@nutella any response to creature shade on you?

[Inawordyes]

Anyway I'll prob spend this night reading books I bought yesterday

Do you have no thoughts or comments to make

Yes, I do. Pushing falcon and me for dipping off is a pretty lazy thing to do and strikes as wolf scared to make enemies active in-thread.

I do think dz has been wolfy.

Iawy feels awkward and flaily.

Not going to try to read Nutella till d2

Quas has been solvey but idk if it's fake able or not.

Schiav seems comfortable and not stiff,getting towny pings.

I've commented on that several times today already and make no secret of it, btw

[Schiavetto]

taking a moment to say it's really funny how much mafia just


makes you talk funny

[Creature]

I'm still frustrated from last mash

I'll prob ignore townreads from dead town players if I don't feel the same

[nutella]

Quas has been solvey

citation?

Miswrote quas, cape has been solvey.

thats funny bc after posting that i looked at quas's iso and decided it was fine actually

[Schiavetto]

I kind of think IAWY is town just for his push on falcon off of DZ

Yh falcon wolfy

- pop in
- joke vote
- turns joke vote real
- ghosts

Vibes of forced solving and fear of rvs

My two reads:
Nut v

Falcon w

You know what, I looked at his ISO and I agree

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

What about it is townie? I gave no thoughts of my own, nor have I followed up on the topic since

I didn't explain just because IDK how to fully explain it but I will try

To me this sort of sheeping someone else early is town indicative moreso then not. It isn't something that is overexplained, but there is a slight reason there besides a naked vote.
I like to call reads like this a pattern read since it is more a pattern I notice via town versus mafia
I know you have your whole vibe read thing too, so I have that familiarity with you and you can partially also call it a vibe
In fact I find your method of scumreading falcon probs townier then DZ just on principle of I think just DZ saying that and making you yourself check falcon. Well, he didn't make you, you went out of your way to check falcon's ISO off this post to see if DZ's claim had viability.
no thoughts of my own is technically correct, but all falcon really did was pop in and then just vote Sabi for rickroll then dipped basically.

How would you follow up on the topic if between this time and the time you posted this falcon has said nothing? I would be more concerned about this if it was EOD, you had a static vote on falcon and you haven't addressed he hasn't done anything since you voted falcon originally

That makes sense, and I appreciate you mentioning the bolded just because that was my exact thought process when I saw Zeus' post

I define "follow up" in this instance as explaining why I agree and my own reasons for thinking Falcon was wolfy based on his ISO. I completely understand the point you're making, I just mentally approached it from a different perspective

to that end specifically, being that I brought it up,

Falcon's OP feels very forced and reads tonally awkward. I am aware it makes me a bit of a hypocrite saying that considering that I already get on people for scumreading my OPs, but unless it's a direct quote from somewhere (in which case, it is manufactured, just as a copypasta), it feels like trying too hard to have an interesting OP rather than being a natural flow. That puts Falcon in a rough spot for me, because from the getgo the vibe he gives off is very stilted, and that makes me look at his posts after with a critical eye

Reading it through, and putting my thoughts onto paper, I think I jumped the gun a bit on the agreement and was moreso just wanting to agree with Sabi because I took the time to look at Falcon's ISO, rather than giving Falcon's ISO actual, methodical consideration. It doesn't read as bad now on a second run-through. HOWEVER, I do not like his 6th post (which has been posted since my post so there is new content to consider RE: your commentary Cape). Falcon's gone for almost an hour and a half, makes a comment on Zeus that isn't too far post-wise from the last post he quoted-commented on, and then vanishes again. Let alone the fact that he still seems to be in RVS mode an hour later while most have switched to finding game stuff, commenting specifically on a Zeus post to be another peddler of the "Zeus is sober" conspiracy (which is great btw, I want to hear more about that genuinely) when Zeus is the one who's saying that Falcon is mafia, reads in-context to be a very subtle dig at Zeus' credibility to paint him untrustworthy. What might you need to trust Zeus on? A w!Falcon read, for example

So I don't like that, at all, and of all players to comment on before disappearing again, and of all things to say about said player, it's the one player who's scumreading him, combined with a comment that throws more fuel into the fire of a thought that convenient paints said player in a shady manner, which benefits Falcon if it makes even one person put less stock into Zeus' thoughts about Falcon being mafia. If that makes any sense, I know where I'm going with the thought but I don't know if I'm explaining it properly

Regardless, back to here I go! [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

this is so many words............................

[Inawordyes]

yeah this is going to be a valentine needs her hand held game isnt it

Whom should i give an opinion on @ anyone

I would genuinely like you to give a substantiated opinion on me. Your comment RE:me is just reacting to me uwuspeaking back to your uwuspeak entrance and then pushing back on Nutella's vote on me in an RVS-related way. What do you actually think about me though outside of RVS, though?

[Sabiplz]

Quas has been solvey

citation?

Miswrote quas, cape has been solvey.

thats funny bc after posting that i looked at quas's iso and decided it was fine actually

Citation?

[Inawordyes]

I kind of think IAWY is town just for his push on falcon off of DZ

You know what, I looked at his ISO and I agree

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

What about it is townie? I gave no thoughts of my own, nor have I followed up on the topic since

I didn't explain just because IDK how to fully explain it but I will try

To me this sort of sheeping someone else early is town indicative moreso then not. It isn't something that is overexplained, but there is a slight reason there besides a naked vote.
I like to call reads like this a pattern read since it is more a pattern I notice via town versus mafia
I know you have your whole vibe read thing too, so I have that familiarity with you and you can partially also call it a vibe
In fact I find your method of scumreading falcon probs townier then DZ just on principle of I think just DZ saying that and making you yourself check falcon. Well, he didn't make you, you went out of your way to check falcon's ISO off this post to see if DZ's claim had viability.
no thoughts of my own is technically correct, but all falcon really did was pop in and then just vote Sabi for rickroll then dipped basically.

How would you follow up on the topic if between this time and the time you posted this falcon has said nothing? I would be more concerned about this if it was EOD, you had a static vote on falcon and you haven't addressed he hasn't done anything since you voted falcon originally

That makes sense, and I appreciate you mentioning the bolded just because that was my exact thought process when I saw Zeus' post

I define "follow up" in this instance as explaining why I agree and my own reasons for thinking Falcon was wolfy based on his ISO. I completely understand the point you're making, I just mentally approached it from a different perspective

to that end specifically, being that I brought it up,

Falcon's OP feels very forced and reads tonally awkward. I am aware it makes me a bit of a hypocrite saying that considering that I already get on people for scumreading my OPs, but unless it's a direct quote from somewhere (in which case, it is manufactured, just as a copypasta), it feels like trying too hard to have an interesting OP rather than being a natural flow. That puts Falcon in a rough spot for me, because from the getgo the vibe he gives off is very stilted, and that makes me look at his posts after with a critical eye

Reading it through, and putting my thoughts onto paper, I think I jumped the gun a bit on the agreement and was moreso just wanting to agree with Sabi because I took the time to look at Falcon's ISO, rather than giving Falcon's ISO actual, methodical consideration. It doesn't read as bad now on a second run-through. HOWEVER, I do not like his 6th post (which has been posted since my post so there is new content to consider RE: your commentary Cape). Falcon's gone for almost an hour and a half, makes a comment on Zeus that isn't too far post-wise from the last post he quoted-commented on, and then vanishes again. Let alone the fact that he still seems to be in RVS mode an hour later while most have switched to finding game stuff, commenting specifically on a Zeus post to be another peddler of the "Zeus is sober" conspiracy (which is great btw, I want to hear more about that genuinely) when Zeus is the one who's saying that Falcon is mafia, reads in-context to be a very subtle dig at Zeus' credibility to paint him untrustworthy. What might you need to trust Zeus on? A w!Falcon read, for example

So I don't like that, at all, and of all players to comment on before disappearing again, and of all things to say about said player, it's the one player who's scumreading him, combined with a comment that throws more fuel into the fire of a thought that convenient paints said player in a shady manner, which benefits Falcon if it makes even one person put less stock into Zeus' thoughts about Falcon being mafia. If that makes any sense, I know where I'm going with the thought but I don't know if I'm explaining it properly

Regardless, back to here I go! [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

this is so many words............................

Welcome to the Iawy experience, IYKYK

[Schiavetto]

I'm still frustrated from last mash

I'll prob ignore townreads from dead town players if I don't feel the same

i like, mildly can understand why people would want you out but i also think it's like


an obnoxiously low entrypoint for D1 solving/gametalk/whateveryouwantotcallit

[nutella]

Petit's gross for the hasty vill read off of zero knowledge about me or the horse I came in on + weirdly self-aware followup



but.

But!!!!


If I am wrong and petit is town thatn quas is maybe wolfy for sliding in on that

or i'm wrong in both worlds but that would be p embarrassing, we won't talk abt that possibility

these two schia posts were very wolfy, but apparently they have a wolfgame in a mash so im not gonna make any evaluations yet - as the rest of their posts are ok.

I agree that was super wolfy, reminded me a lot of agendaed "if not x then y" associations I tried to paint when wolfing in the mash that just ended, but I do also sometimes just naturally make those reads as town so idk

[Inawordyes]

Yh falcon wolfy

- pop in
- joke vote
- turns joke vote real
- ghosts

Vibes of forced solving and fear of rvs

My two reads:
Nut v

Falcon w

You know what, I looked at his ISO and I agree

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

You agree, eh?


Talk to me about ghosting...how do you define it?

oh hello mark

[Creature]

Le petit's posts felt the most awkward for me.

IAWY pushing two LHFs here feel so weird for then.

I dunno what to make out of nutella rn.

[nutella]

@nutella any response to creature shade on you?

it was nothing

[Schiavetto]

which is to say ig i kind of don't really care what people think abt creature now, compared to like, in the backhalf of the phase

[Inawordyes]

Even more interesting because Falcon RVS's and vanishes, and his only two posts since are both aimed at the two players who claimed sus on him, and both posts throw shade and untrustworthy-painting at those two

curiouser and curiouser

[nutella]

iawy already walling -.-

[Inawordyes]

iawy already walling -.-

Read my walls tyvm, I don't write my thoughts just to have them ignored because people will reading 1000 3-30 word posts but refuse to read 1000 words in 1 post

[Cape90]

Cape, can you teply to Iawy pls?

If i didnt i wouldnt post it.

I don't think DrZeus is drunk fwiw. it is getting interesting lol.

This is TMI, maybe. DrZeus/Petit might be w/w

[VOTE: Guillotina] aubergine

No chance you believe this read

My reply was to this post

there always seems to be a drive behind things you say Guillotina but the reasons you called DZ/Petit are convoluted

Like are you implying that Petit just knows that DZ isn't drunk because they talked in wolf chat and DZ was totally sober and Petit just HAD to say something about it in the thread or something?

Even if what you say is true, I still don't think you thought out the post

Yes! It looked like Petit knew DZ was faking being drunk. Otherwise, how do you explain why he thought thhat eh?

Maybe it has to do with in Petit's mind like, them posting while drunk DZ would be less coherent and therefore DZ is lying and wolf in their mind

I have no real idea

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... -a-upick-2 - town DZ

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... m-joat10er - mafia DZ (page 2 of iso)

In both of these games and more I just picked 2, he mentions being drunk in some capacity, it really means nothing

I just do not know why Guillo thinks that if this is the case, the wolf that is wolf with DZ just happens to openly mention they don't believe DZ is drunk because what that does is incriminate themselves, and wolves usually think before they post a lot of the time

[Schiavetto]

Petit's gross for the hasty vill read off of zero knowledge about me or the horse I came in on + weirdly self-aware followup



but.

But!!!!


If I am wrong and petit is town thatn quas is maybe wolfy for sliding in on that

or i'm wrong in both worlds but that would be p embarrassing, we won't talk abt that possibility

these two schia posts were very wolfy, but apparently they have a wolfgame in a mash so im not gonna make any evaluations yet - as the rest of their posts are ok.

I agree that was super wolfy, reminded me a lot of agendaed "if not x then y" associations I tried to paint when wolfing in the mash that just ended, but I do also sometimes just naturally make those reads as town so idk

hot take, villagers should be allowed to be wolfy as long as they can also make themselves towny & i think there's a lot of Probably Helpful Thoughts that get thunk that might also be accurately called """wolfy"""

[Creature]

Le petit's posts felt the most awkward for me.

IAWY pushing two LHFs here feel so weird for then.

I dunno what to make out of nutella rn.

Meh maybe IAWY being blatant about it may be town indicative.

[Schiavetto]

am i agenda'd, or just saying the thing that i thought??????? who's to say.......................