Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]

[Cape90]

Mafia a lot of the time like to play nice or get defensive and this is what makes an awkward mafia start to the game, not being weird in general

[Chelsea]

Quas isn't paying attention to me so he's prob a wolf tbhhhh

[LordQuas]

Testing, testing is this thing on?

@Chelsea yoooooooo waddup

[LordQuas]

Quas isn't paying attention to me so he's prob a wolf tbhhhh

lmao

[Chelsea]

TOO LATE FKER (I can say that right? Don't ban me pls it's banter)

[Cape90]

in Schiavetto's case regarding the mash, since I am looking at that. They felt... more snappy and irritable

[hollowkatt]

I keep seeing people mentioning Quas in some way and I keep not reading a single Quas post. hmm

prolly hard to get a read on me if you aren't reading my posts

the fact that you have 35 posts in topic and this is the first I've recognized and read says something about one of us

[Valentine]

I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly

[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine

For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.

this post feels weird in retrospect

like i know the lordquas reasoning precedes this post but it feels like. weirdly shoehorned in between two reads that are like there to placate people yk. "yeah i like you two" and then boop sly vote. like the... presentation of it feels a little ?

and i think i'm offput because the general vibe i get from cape90 while skimming is that cape is erring towards townreading people or at the very least unwilling to really push down further than "could be town, could be mafia" anywhere. he feels very... gentle with his approach i guess.

[LordQuas]

falcon sass might be towny. Wouldn't take a read to the bank on him yet but certainly townier than iawy

hollow is skeeving me out

his guillo read is worth sheeping though

[LordQuas]

I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly

[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine

For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.

why did you end up voting me in this post?

[Valentine]

i guess it's like probably never lordquas/cape if only because i don't think when you vote a partner you do it without the reasoning like, explicitly attached because you wanna farm maximum credit

[Valentine]

I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly

[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine

For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.

why did you end up voting me in this post?

omg towny mindmeld!!?!?!?

[DaughterOfOmega]

NGL, I wasn’t ready to take this game seriously so quickly

[LordQuas]

Schiavetto town for blatant inconsistency.

She made playlists for everyone in champs semis

She was a wolf.

That is not my point. (spamming non game related posts is kinda wolfy yeah, but doing it just after accusing someone of it is erraticaly townie... or just a joke. Let me time to get used to their posting style )

This post sucks.

of all the ppl chillin with their entrances schia felt the most awkward

Hey handsome <3

of all the ppl chillin with their entrances schia felt the most awkward

I'm not an awkward wolf, I'm cool & chic & villagery

Awk post.

i agree with all three of these things

[Strawhenge]

good post, one question. What happened to #3? @Strawhenge

I think I had a question about somebody, but kept reading through the catch-up, and it was answered. I can't remember what it was, though.

[LordQuas]

of all the ppl chillin with their entrances schia felt the most awkward

I don't see it, I think Schiavetto entered fine

the self vote felt like trying too hard to me

trying too hard to what? it's early game

Quas not liking things for being awkward and hedgy seems so level 0 in general

Schiavetto town for blatant inconsistency.

She made playlists for everyone in champs semis

She was a wolf.

That is not my point. (spamming non game related posts is kinda wolfy yeah, but doing it just after accusing someone of it is erraticaly townie... or just a joke. Let me time to get used to their posting style )

idk what youre saying here tho this is hedgy beyond belief

I don't like the call out for this post being hedgy

Before you ask and not read my posts, there you go, the reason behind my vote

too late i already asked but this reasoning sucks anyways. Wolves post hedgy stuff, why you so horny to defend wolfy folks?

[DaughterOfOmega]

Just chilling watching Dota ti

[Chelsea]

Take this game seriously or else I expect nothing less but 100%

[LordQuas]

I think Schiavetto is being townier then they were in the mash they were just a part of FWIW

Mashes aren't normals meta sucks. Although I don't think Scia has been wolfy just weird (there's a big dif and if you don't get it well...)

Yes I acknowledge this though in the mash it did feel like schiavetto was playing a normal game anyways (hardly talked about too much of anyone) (didn't have a lot of posts) (went after someone). And I think this game to me felt better, and I am quite literally not the only one who has felt that way coming off the mash when Schia hardly played like he was in one.

Ok yeah I think Schiavetto looks better in here than the mash.

I acknowledge it isn't a perfect meta read or anything but for someone who felt fine and still feels fine

schia has ticked two of these boxes. She hasn't really been interacting with people, doesn't have a lot of posts. Hasn't gone after anyone too hard yet as far as I'm aware but I'm not sure why this is your defense

[DaughterOfOmega]

What a fucking fight between Aster and Liquid

[Strawhenge]

This is Strawhenge to @LordQuas: Is it just Schia's self-vote that's getting you? Is there anything else about them that's awkward?

[Chelsea]

It highkey feels like Scia is getting TMI villa'd tbhhhhh

[Strawhenge]

Nvm, you answered the question while I was typing.

[Chelsea]

Excuse me, where's my praise and townreads? I've made 20 posts and I expect people to be villa lock townreading me by now.

[LordQuas]

Quas not liking things for being awkward and hedgy seems so level 0 in general

seems to work though. you disagree that wolves struggle to post as naturally as town?

I think it's dependent on the person, I think in my scum game I won on this website I had a very awkward opener that townies acknowledged and brushed off.

It feels like too much stock is always put in those reads and it is really easy for mafia to take advantage of something that seems obvious like "player x's posts are awkward" it's why I am not vibing with nutella actually either

was your counter to "wolves have awkward openers >rand" really just "i had an awkward opener when i was a wolf so wolves don't have awkward openers"

[LordQuas]

you signed up for a mafia game expecting fun? wtf is wrong with you.

this is why chelsea is probably the best player in the game

[LordQuas]

TOO LATE FKER (I can say that right? Don't ban me pls it's banter)

i'll just call you the best player in the game if you want to be and pocket you is fine

[LordQuas]

I keep seeing people mentioning Quas in some way and I keep not reading a single Quas post. hmm

prolly hard to get a read on me if you aren't reading my posts

the fact that you have 35 posts in topic and this is the first I've recognized and read says something about one of us

yeah that you haven't been backreading

[Cape90]

I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly

[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine

For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.

this post feels weird in retrospect

like i know the lordquas reasoning precedes this post but it feels like. weirdly shoehorned in between two reads that are like there to placate people yk. "yeah i like you two" and then boop sly vote. like the... presentation of it feels a little ?

and i think i'm offput because the general vibe i get from cape90 while skimming is that cape is erring towards townreading people or at the very least unwilling to really push down further than "could be town, could be mafia" anywhere. he feels very... gentle with his approach i guess.

So because you cannot simply unvote I do not think, I wanted to get off Guillotina for now, so I did and voted Quas, and in the post I explain why I unvoted Guillotina.

You could call the approach I took, specifically with Guillotina careful. But tbh, it is one of the better approaches to take with them

[LordQuas]

NGL, I wasn’t ready to take this game seriously so quickly

i posted in signup i wasn't having fun this game and meant it. mashes are for shitposts, small games are for serious business quas

[hollowkatt]

I keep seeing people mentioning Quas in some way and I keep not reading a single Quas post. hmm

prolly hard to get a read on me if you aren't reading my posts

the fact that you have 35 posts in topic and this is the first I've recognized and read says something about one of us

yeah that you haven't been backreading

this is true

[LordQuas]

Just chilling watching Dota ti

this game is crazy. that rosh fight aaaah so close

[Chelsea]

you signed up for a mafia game expecting fun? wtf is wrong with you.

this is why chelsea is probably the best player in the game

TOO LATE FKER (I can say that right? Don't ban me pls it's banter)

i'll just call you the best player in the game if you want to be and pocket you is fine

I'm pocketed

This is Strawhenge to @LordQuas: Is it just Schia's self-vote that's getting you? Is there anything else about them that's awkward?

Okay, I'ma say something that's gonna blow everyone's mind: Being awk doesn't=wolfy

[Cape90]

Quas not liking things for being awkward and hedgy seems so level 0 in general

seems to work though. you disagree that wolves struggle to post as naturally as town?

I think it's dependent on the person, I think in my scum game I won on this website I had a very awkward opener that townies acknowledged and brushed off.

It feels like too much stock is always put in those reads and it is really easy for mafia to take advantage of something that seems obvious like "player x's posts are awkward" it's why I am not vibing with nutella actually either

was your counter to "wolves have awkward openers >rand" really just "i had an awkward opener when i was a wolf so wolves don't have awkward openers"

I was trying to get at the fact that I wolves and town can be awkward in the beginning of their game so pushing on it seems easy and trivial and opportunistic. This is coming from a player who has less experience then a lot of forum mafia players

[LordQuas]

This is Strawhenge to @LordQuas: Is it just Schia's self-vote that's getting you? Is there anything else about them that's awkward?

i just haven't felt like their jokes have been natural at all and reminded me of a wolf trying to imitate a towny having fun rather than a towny actually having fun. I also didn't particularly like that schia post about mine about the rabbit person with the french name (thats a sentence) but I did like schia's response to me

its an early read that i'm not married to but it was what stuck out to me the most from that rvs phase

also rachel holy shit that ending

[Chelsea]

If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.

The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill

[Cape90]

of all the ppl chillin with their entrances schia felt the most awkward

I don't see it, I think Schiavetto entered fine

the self vote felt like trying too hard to me

trying too hard to what? it's early game

Quas not liking things for being awkward and hedgy seems so level 0 in general

Schiavetto town for blatant inconsistency.

She made playlists for everyone in champs semis

She was a wolf.

That is not my point. (spamming non game related posts is kinda wolfy yeah, but doing it just after accusing someone of it is erraticaly townie... or just a joke. Let me time to get used to their posting style )

idk what youre saying here tho this is hedgy beyond belief

I don't like the call out for this post being hedgy

Before you ask and not read my posts, there you go, the reason behind my vote

too late i already asked but this reasoning sucks anyways. Wolves post hedgy stuff, why you so horny to defend wolfy folks?

Because this is a way I haven't seen you play

[LordQuas]

I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly

[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine

For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.

this post feels weird in retrospect

like i know the lordquas reasoning precedes this post but it feels like. weirdly shoehorned in between two reads that are like there to placate people yk. "yeah i like you two" and then boop sly vote. like the... presentation of it feels a little ?

and i think i'm offput because the general vibe i get from cape90 while skimming is that cape is erring towards townreading people or at the very least unwilling to really push down further than "could be town, could be mafia" anywhere. he feels very... gentle with his approach i guess.

So because you cannot simply unvote I do not think, I wanted to get off Guillotina for now, so I did and voted Quas, and in the post I explain why I unvoted Guillotina.

You could call the approach I took, specifically with Guillotina careful. But tbh, it is one of the better approaches to take with them

oh i didn't know you can't unvote, that actually makes this make way more sense

[LordQuas]

If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.

The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill

boo entrances can be great indicators

[Cape90]

you can vote unvote I guess but that hardly makes sense

[Valentine]

I like Strawhedge's #464 post, even if I think the reasonings behind like their Valentine suspicion and IAWY suspicion are pretty funny reasons for scumreading someone. No idea if it's normal for them but I know it's normal for some people. But the post does show a level of thinking independantly

[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine

For now, I just liked Guillo's response to me in #461, it is like Okay now I believe that Guillo believes what they are saying. The lack of further shade from Guillo, or the lack of Guillo shading me for it and instead explaining his POV to me is something that does ping me as a little un-Guillotina like, like I expected a loud OMGUS but whatever.

this post feels weird in retrospect

like i know the lordquas reasoning precedes this post but it feels like. weirdly shoehorned in between two reads that are like there to placate people yk. "yeah i like you two" and then boop sly vote. like the... presentation of it feels a little ?

and i think i'm offput because the general vibe i get from cape90 while skimming is that cape is erring towards townreading people or at the very least unwilling to really push down further than "could be town, could be mafia" anywhere. he feels very... gentle with his approach i guess.

So because you cannot simply unvote I do not think, I wanted to get off Guillotina for now, so I did and voted Quas, and in the post I explain why I unvoted Guillotina.

You could call the approach I took, specifically with Guillotina careful. But tbh, it is one of the better approaches to take with them

wobbles in the way an alien would trying to understand knowledge

Okay. For Now...

[Chelsea]

If I see someone trying to push someone based on how awk they are I'm shutting that down because that's such a weak excuse and screams pushing LHF for no reason cause you can't think of a good excuse.

The only time someone can be pushed for being awk and its wolfy is if their meta is so polarizing that you can figure out if they're town or wolf based off like 10 posts and I doubt anyone fits that bill

boo entrances can be great indicators

ur mom

[LordQuas]

of all the ppl chillin with their entrances schia felt the most awkward

I don't see it, I think Schiavetto entered fine

the self vote felt like trying too hard to me

trying too hard to what? it's early game

Quas not liking things for being awkward and hedgy seems so level 0 in general

She made playlists for everyone in champs semis

She was a wolf.

That is not my point. (spamming non game related posts is kinda wolfy yeah, but doing it just after accusing someone of it is erraticaly townie... or just a joke. Let me time to get used to their posting style )

idk what youre saying here tho this is hedgy beyond belief

I don't like the call out for this post being hedgy

Before you ask and not read my posts, there you go, the reason behind my vote

too late i already asked but this reasoning sucks anyways. Wolves post hedgy stuff, why you so horny to defend wolfy folks?

Because this is a way I haven't seen you play

you've only see me play mashes but I think this is not what makes my mash play different from my small game play

in fact i depend a lot more on snap reads in mashes

[Chelsea]

(Yes entrances can be good indicators but I don't want to carry on this conversation topic because I'll get in how to wolves push certain things and I['d rather just watch like a hawk and use my pro scumhunting skills that no one will listen to kek)

[LordQuas]

(Yes entrances can be good indicators but I don't want to carry on this conversation topic because I'll get in how to wolves push certain things and I['d rather just watch like a hawk and use my pro scumhunting skills that no one will listen to kek)

ok lol

[LordQuas]

i'm actually still struggling to understand cape's logic behind "wolves don't have awkward openings reliably, for example when i was a wolf i had a wolfy opening and nobody called me out for it so i won"

[Valentine]

is this the off topic option

overwatch 2 is a bad game. if i get a push map one more time i am going to lose my mind.

[DaughterOfOmega]

is this the off topic option

overwatch 2 is a bad game. if i get a push map one more time i am going to lose my mind.

I wrote a dissertation on how Blizzard has ruined every positive aspect of OW1 without fixing the massive flaws.

[Chelsea]

i'm actually still struggling to understand cape's logic behind "wolves don't have awkward openings reliably, for example when i was a wolf i had a wolfy opening and nobody called me out for it so i won"

I'm debating if Cape TMI'd Scia or not. Right now I lean: Other people will check in and tell me so not my problem. I still think Sabi and nutella are wolfier

[LordQuas]

is this the off topic option

overwatch 2 is a bad game. if i get a push map one more time i am going to lose my mind.

go waste 3,000 hours in dota

or don't, your call