Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]

[IBA]

oh right ty

[IBA]

Okay so everyone has claimed the following, correct me if I'm wrong here:

IBA: Hammerer Enabler, delayed passive roleblock
Val: Day Vote Canceler, sends role to same (alignment x2)
Chelsea: BPV
Colin: Neighborizer 3p
Doom: 2 shot lowpost vig
Risinq: 1 shot vig
Petit: Steals dead people night abilities
Quas: Motivator
Iawy: Odd night tracker
Schia: Odd night traffic analyst

[IBA]

Okay so everyone has claimed the following, correct me if I'm wrong here:

IBA: Hammerer Enabler, delayed passive roleblock
Val: Day Vote Canceler, sends role to same (alignment x2)
Chelsea: BPV
Colin: Neighborizer 3p
Doom: 2 shot lowpost vig
Risinq: 1 shot vig
Petit: Steals dead people night abilities
Quas: Motivator
Iawy: Odd night tracker
Schia: Odd night traffic analyst

And we know this contains 2 wolves and almost certainly an SK

[IBA]

Based on the wording of Guillo and Mung's roles, I would assume the extra kill power scum used n1 was just disconnected from a second role, so no one is cleared by demonstrating another role.

Once per game during the night you may target the player who has posted the most in the thread during that day and kill them. If you are targeted by an investigative it will return the same result as if you were town. Once per game if you carry the factional mafia kill the role will not flip. You can use the spam vig on the same night as carrying the factional.

Choose betwee the following actions each night - You may target a player. Their vote will not count the following day (unknown to anyone), or, you may also target someone and stop them from using their ability. Lastly, once per game, if you carry the factional mafia kill it will be undetectable.

[Inawordyes]

Okay so everyone has claimed the following, correct me if I'm wrong here:

IBA: Hammerer Enabler, delayed passive roleblock
Val: Day Vote Canceler, sends role to same (alignment x2)
Chelsea: BPV
Colin: Neighborizer 3p
Doom: 2 shot lowpost vig
Risinq: 1 shot vig
Petit: Steals dead people night abilities
Quas: Motivator
Iawy: Odd night tracker
Schia: Odd night traffic analyst

And we know this contains 2 wolves and almost certainly an SK

Chelsea's BPV was 1x, otherwise shjould be correct

Of those, Val is conftown through her alignment being revealed to Colin (unless the scumteam is exactly Val/Colin, which necessitates 2 3Ps out there hiding)
Petit should be pretty much conftown through only using dead townie actions
Quas is confirmed not-mafia if you believe Schia's claim and/or is confirmed to have not carried KP on N1 if you believe mine

[IBA]

Okay so everyone has claimed the following, correct me if I'm wrong here:

IBA: Hammerer Enabler, delayed passive roleblock
Val: Day Vote Canceler, sends role to same (alignment x2)
Chelsea: BPV
Colin: Neighborizer 3p
Doom: 2 shot lowpost vig
Risinq: 1 shot vig
Petit: Steals dead people night abilities
Quas: Motivator
Iawy: Odd night tracker
Schia: Odd night traffic analyst

And we know this contains 2 wolves and almost certainly an SK

Chelsea's BPV was 1x, otherwise shjould be correct

Of those, Val is conftown through her alignment being revealed to Colin (unless the scumteam is exactly Val/Colin, which necessitates 2 3Ps out there hiding)
Petit should be pretty much conftown through only using dead townie actions
Quas is confirmed not-mafia if you believe Schia's claim and/or is confirmed to have not carried KP on N1 if you believe mine

Didn't really think it was a good idea to emphasize that Chelsea's BPV is expended.

I don't get why petit's ability couldn't be scum.

I also straight up do not believe schia's claim for obvious reasons.

[Le petit poussin]

Okay so everyone has claimed the following, correct me if I'm wrong here:

IBA: Hammerer Enabler, delayed passive roleblock
Val: Day Vote Canceler, sends role to same (alignment x2)
Chelsea: BPV
Colin: Neighborizer 3p
Doom: 2 shot lowpost vig
Risinq: 1 shot vig
Petit: Steals dead people night abilities
Quas: Motivator
Iawy: Odd night tracker
Schia: Odd night traffic analyst

And we know this contains 2 wolves and almost certainly an SK

Chelsea's BPV was 1x, otherwise shjould be correct

Of those, Val is conftown through her alignment being revealed to Colin (unless the scumteam is exactly Val/Colin, which necessitates 2 3Ps out there hiding)
Petit should be pretty much conftown through only using dead townie actions
Quas is confirmed not-mafia if you believe Schia's claim and/or is confirmed to have not carried KP on N1 if you believe mine

Didn't really think it was a good idea to emphasize that Chelsea's BPV is expended.

I don't get why petit's ability couldn't be scum.

I also straight up do not believe schia's claim for obvious reasons.

^technically my ability could be scum IBA. Not what I made out of it (like I guess scums would have used the spamvig ability or just send whoever alignment to their teamate...)

tbh I don't believe Schia's nor riisinq's claims. Think Riisinq just claimed the only death which couldn't be from the SK so they have something to claim. Schia's outright lying lol

[Le petit poussin]

which makes me think riisinq is the SK (considering the amount of thoughts that was needed to just clear up the SK situation and the # of kills) and Schi scum. Remaining prolly Colin or ... you I guess?

[IBA]

which makes me think riisinq is the SK (considering the amount of thoughts that was needed to just clear up the SK situation and the # of kills) and Schi scum. Remaining prolly Colin or ... you I guess?

Or you lol. But yeah, kill rising and schia first

[Inawordyes]

We are currently at +1, so do we want to end the day now or keep discussing?

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine in the meantime

[LordQuas]

@LordQuas can you elaborate on both of your "too clueless to be mafia reads"

mafia generally informed

[LordQuas]

i had forgotten risiinq claimed the kill because that is basically outing yes as everyone has discussed

[LordQuas]

Oh if rask can take dead roles they can coinflip the dead doctor role on me/Valetine.

Wait I'm clear with Valentine.

EWWWWWWW LET ME OUT

@Chelsea not saying val isn't clear but remind me why she is again

[IBA]

@Le petit poussin can you remind me what your claimed night actions have been again

[LordQuas]

Topic redirection:

Snow claimed to have a 1x vig shot that they used N2 on Cape. Aside from the fact that this is an extremely dubious and convenient claim, we have mechanically-confirmed 4 KP on N1, three flips + a BP-protected failed shot on Chelsea as seen by Wind

Which means we have the mafia NK, a probable 3P SK, DoOm’s claimed slank vig, and ???

Where I does the fourth kill come from?

maybe this has been answered already but isn't the 4th the dead town vig

[LordQuas]

also correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't le poutit being silenced from sabis trap mean they're no longer lock clear

[LordQuas]

i think it might be a good idea to run through a list of exactly why everyone is clear / not clear so we don't miss anything

[IBA]

Topic redirection:

Snow claimed to have a 1x vig shot that they used N2 on Cape. Aside from the fact that this is an extremely dubious and convenient claim, we have mechanically-confirmed 4 KP on N1, three flips + a BP-protected failed shot on Chelsea as seen by Wind

Which means we have the mafia NK, a probable 3P SK, DoOm’s claimed slank vig, and ???

Where I does the fourth kill come from?

maybe this has been answered already but isn't the 4th the dead town vig

What dead town vig?

[LordQuas]

Topic redirection:

Snow claimed to have a 1x vig shot that they used N2 on Cape. Aside from the fact that this is an extremely dubious and convenient claim, we have mechanically-confirmed 4 KP on N1, three flips + a BP-protected failed shot on Chelsea as seen by Wind

Which means we have the mafia NK, a probable 3P SK, DoOm’s claimed slank vig, and ???

Where I does the fourth kill come from?

maybe this has been answered already but isn't the 4th the dead town vig

What dead town vig?

for some reason i thought there was a flipped 1-shot town vig this whole time

but there is not

[Schiavetto]

also correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't le poutit being silenced from sabis trap mean they're no longer lock clear

my current hesitation w/rt petit atp is that petit/deez v/v makes Guill's weird associative on them like
really jenky play as maf

cui bono, etc. etc.


but even there, snow 's play here reminds me a lot of how she played CvD - amble about & then livepost the heat away - and known mech around her slot doesn't check out, which taken alongside the vig claim just feels like a better hit - as opposed to iawy, who like... like i said, hasn't done anything Inawolfyes couldn't do, but doesn't really have much reason to do those things as wolf, and everything i've heard rolewise feels Consistent with known mech + my own mechanical experience of this game

And When Snow Flips Red We Can Chop Claimed Scum Colin

[LordQuas]

also correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't le poutit being silenced from sabis trap mean they're no longer lock clear

my current hesitation w/rt petit atp is that petit/deez v/v makes Guill's weird associative on them like
really jenky play as maf

cui bono, etc. etc.


but even there, snow 's play here reminds me a lot of how she played CvD - amble about & then livepost the heat away - and known mech around her slot doesn't check out, which taken alongside the vig claim just feels like a better hit - as opposed to iawy, who like... like i said, hasn't done anything Inawolfyes couldn't do, but doesn't really have much reason to do those things as wolf, and everything i've heard rolewise feels Consistent with known mech + my own mechanical experience of this game

And When Snow Flips Red We Can Chop Claimed Scum Colin

i mean yes the only thing preventing me from voting snow is i dont want to hammer

i'm talking about for future

[Schiavetto]

second part was me thinking aloud, i agree w/ time taken to run through Who Is Actually Clear & By What Metrics

[DaughterOfOmega]

Based on the wording of Guillo and Mung's roles, I would assume the extra kill power scum used n1 was just disconnected from a second role, so no one is cleared by demonstrating another role.

Once per game during the night you may target the player who has posted the most in the thread during that day and kill them. If you are targeted by an investigative it will return the same result as if you were town. Once per game if you carry the factional mafia kill the role will not flip. You can use the spam vig on the same night as carrying the factional.

Choose betwee the following actions each night - You may target a player. Their vote will not count the following day (unknown to anyone), or, you may also target someone and stop them from using their ability. Lastly, once per game, if you carry the factional mafia kill it will be undetectable.

Are you TMIing that mafia had 2 kp n1??? Lmao

Actually outing info

[IBA]

Based on the wording of Guillo and Mung's roles, I would assume the extra kill power scum used n1 was just disconnected from a second role, so no one is cleared by demonstrating another role.

Once per game during the night you may target the player who has posted the most in the thread during that day and kill them. If you are targeted by an investigative it will return the same result as if you were town. Once per game if you carry the factional mafia kill the role will not flip. You can use the spam vig on the same night as carrying the factional.

Choose betwee the following actions each night - You may target a player. Their vote will not count the following day (unknown to anyone), or, you may also target someone and stop them from using their ability. Lastly, once per game, if you carry the factional mafia kill it will be undetectable.

Are you TMIing that mafia had 2 kp n1??? Lmao

Actually outing info

Literally everyone has claimed and scum having 2 kills on n1 is the only explanation that makes sense. Unless you assume the SK did which is six of one, half a dozen of the other.

[DaughterOfOmega]

Lmao no.

There was a town vig alive, and me. Which counts for 4 kp.

The only way someone should ever assume mafia has an additional kp is if you’re outing into the town vig didn’t shoot. Which only mafia can know lol

[IBA]

Lmao no.

There was a town vig alive, and me. Which counts for 4 kp.

The only way someone should ever assume mafia has an additional kp is if you’re outing into the town vig didn’t shoot. Which only mafia can know lol

i am town and will claim the kill on cape cuz altho its really no info theres no point in withholding it

i have not killed anyone else

[IBA]

Cape was killed N2

There are no more town vigs unless they're alive and still lying about it for some reason, welcome to the thread

[DaughterOfOmega]

Lmao no.

There was a town vig alive, and me. Which counts for 4 kp.

The only way someone should ever assume mafia has an additional kp is if you’re outing into the town vig didn’t shoot. Which only mafia can know lol

i am town and will claim the kill on cape cuz altho its really no info theres no point in withholding it

i have not killed anyone else

How does this prove anything that mafia have 2 kp? Still waiting on how you’d know that info

[IBA]

Lmao no.

There was a town vig alive, and me. Which counts for 4 kp.

The only way someone should ever assume mafia has an additional kp is if you’re outing into the town vig didn’t shoot. Which only mafia can know lol

i am town and will claim the kill on cape cuz altho its really no info theres no point in withholding it

i have not killed anyone else

How does this prove anything that mafia have 2 kp? Still waiting on how you’d know that info

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[DaughterOfOmega]

Cape was killed N2

There are no more town vigs unless they're alive and still lying about it for some reason, welcome to the thread

Cape was one of three kills n2.

Me, SK, mafia factional.

So rising is either admitting to being SK or carrying mafia factional, or they are lying

[DaughterOfOmega]

I’m asking where does this prove mafia has 2 kp on n1

Curious

[IBA]

Cape was killed N2

There are no more town vigs unless they're alive and still lying about it for some reason, welcome to the thread

Cape was one of three kills n2.

Me, SK, mafia factional.

So rising is either admitting to being SK or carrying mafia factional, or they are lying

I mean I'm quite sure they're lying but multiple kills can hit the same target, in fairness.

[DaughterOfOmega]

Cape was killed N2

There are no more town vigs unless they're alive and still lying about it for some reason, welcome to the thread

Cape was one of three kills n2.

Me, SK, mafia factional.

So rising is either admitting to being SK or carrying mafia factional, or they are lying

I mean I'm quite sure they're lying but multiple kills can hit the same target, in fairness.

“I’m quite sure they are lying”

“Mafia had 2 kills n1”

Huh

[IBA]

I’m asking where does this prove mafia has 2 kp on n1

Curious

Because everyone has claimed and you're the only person claiming to have killed N1. If we assume you're town, that leaves 3 kills unaccounted for. Town should not still be lying/hiding this info so it has to be either scum or, far less likely, the SK has an extra kill.

[IBA]

Cape was killed N2

There are no more town vigs unless they're alive and still lying about it for some reason, welcome to the thread

Cape was one of three kills n2.

Me, SK, mafia factional.

So rising is either admitting to being SK or carrying mafia factional, or they are lying

I mean I'm quite sure they're lying but multiple kills can hit the same target, in fairness.

“I’m quite sure they are lying”

“Mafia had 2 kills n1”

Huh

Someone explain how fucking math works to this person for me

[IBA]

Like okay let's try this:

@DaughterOfOmega, where do you think the 4th KP came from N1? What explanation makes sense to you?

[DaughterOfOmega]

Like okay let's try this:

@DaughterOfOmega, where do you think the 4th KP came from N1? What explanation makes sense to you?

I literally just said that town had a vig

[LordQuas]

Like okay let's try this:

@DaughterOfOmega, where do you think the 4th KP came from N1? What explanation makes sense to you?

I literally just said that town had a vig

everyone in the game has claimed

who is the vig

[IBA]

Like okay let's try this:

@DaughterOfOmega, where do you think the 4th KP came from N1? What explanation makes sense to you?

I literally just said that town had a vig

Then where the fuck is this vig? Because the only other claimed vig is saying they didn't fire N1.

[DaughterOfOmega]

Town vig died before n1 never mind

Rising is prob just mafia vig then

[DaughterOfOmega]

Also I’m busy on more important things, can’t solve this game gl

[Inawordyes]

Town vig died before n1 never mind

Rising is prob just mafia vig then

If Risii is mafia vig, then where is the SK?

Is Risii is SK, then where is the mafia vig?

Evidently both exist, which means one is unaccounted for. But Risii claimed to kill, so is 100% one or the other and always dies

[IBA]

I don't think I'm likely to die tonight but if I do kill Colin.

[DaughterOfOmega]

Lol. There’s scum in here talking about rising is always scum

[Inawordyes]

Lol. There’s scum in here talking about rising is always scum

Use your words please

[IBA]

Mostly just want to hear from @Chelsea and @Valentine at this point

[Le petit poussin]

DO people read my posts? I do think Riisinq being the SK and Cape getting bombed by his own reads explain the whole thing lol. No need to speculate on additional town or mafia vig.

[ColinIsCool]

So should I vote for riisinq or what

[Le petit poussin]

@Le petit poussin can you remind me what your claimed night actions have been again

N1: holstered (I could have vigged Sabi, was the only NA available to me)
N2: sent Chelsea Sabi's alignment
N3: nexus on Sabi

[Inawordyes]

Could you only target Sabi, or did you just decide to act on Sabi every night? :laugh: