Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D4

[robyn]

Also, seeing their explanation of mech things I missed, gives me pause. I don't quite understand why it doesn't give anyone else pause.

because it is within dizzy's range as scum to do x that is pro town

[Ricochet]

Good morning.

@lucy @Violet @Ricochet

Please vote.

Was out of business yesterday.

I'll make my reads and vote today.

[Spacedaisy]

But I feel like in the last two games I played, I based how I read someone upon not seeing a good reason for a wolf to do what they did, as in I saw no benefit for them and only risk to do what they did if they were wolf. Both of those times I was fooled. it's why I am struggling with this right now.

[robyn]

I get that.

Have you read Dizzy's case for them being "mech cleared"? I don't think they are actually mech cleared, because as Epi pointed out, it requires believing they did what they say, however, I can't see a mafia reason to have passed on the role the Ruri flipped.

I haven't actually read the case for being mech conf and admittedly I'd trust it if it came from anyone besides dizzy

[Spacedaisy]

Also, seeing their explanation of mech things I missed, gives me pause. I don't quite understand why it doesn't give anyone else pause.

because it is within dizzy's range as scum to do x that is pro town

Passing up a role that is a guaranteed extra kill for the wolves though? That isn't just to look good, that is passing up a tool that you could quietly take, with no one the wiser and continue to kill people off with and get closer to your goal. Do you see what I mean?

Maybe I don't understand the role Ruri flipped. Let me double check that.

[robyn]

But I feel like in the last two games I played, I based how I read someone upon not seeing a good reason for a wolf to do what they did, as in I saw no benefit for them and only risk to do what they did if they were wolf. Both of those times I was fooled. it's why I am struggling with this right now.

this is because wolves always play mechanically sub-optimally, and say "why would wolves do x, it doesn't make sense"

[robyn]

[Spacedaisy]

Ruri's role:
Spankvig lol

You’re both a slank and a spam vig. If someone posts fewer than five times in the previous day, you can shoot them. If someone posts more than 150 times in the previous day, you can shoot them. You can target up to three people per night.

If you target one person: they will die (assuming no other actions, ie roleblock, protection, etc)
If you target two people: your first listed target will die. Your second listed target has a 50% chance of dying.
If you target three people: your first listed target will die. Your second and third listed targets each have a 1 / 3 chance of dying.

And it specified that Ruri's original role was inherited and this was the discarded role. I suppose the only reason I could see a mafia throwing that away would be if they did not foresee town players making more than 150 or less than 5 posts in a day. And I suppose it could make them look suspect for not killing violet.

If Dizzy is bad, then Violet has to be their partner. It all comes down to did Dizzy actually make this kill, and would they discard this role if they are mafia?

Also, lucy, what do you make of Dizzy's behavior before the TSP flip? They were playing like an outed wolf and I was super confused that I had missed something. Thoughts?

[robyn]

@Spacedaisy iso my last page or two, I pointed directly at dizzy then she won, I won't say that what dizzy saying isn't reasonable (it probably is) i am saying this is dizzy and I'm not trusting her confirming herself and I'm especially not liking her SRing me in lylo and positioning nobody to vote violet or rico at last second

[robyn]

@Spacedaisy I think team is dizzy/violet or dizzy rico, either way dizzy clearing rico suddenly is disgusting, she was almost certainly setting up to push me instead of violet and pocketing rico in the process if he's town. and implicitly avoiding any votes on violet because they're lovers and dizzy or violet would die. hard to judge because it's lylo

@Spacedaisy I sent this message lol

[Spacedaisy]

But I feel like in the last two games I played, I based how I read someone upon not seeing a good reason for a wolf to do what they did, as in I saw no benefit for them and only risk to do what they did if they were wolf. Both of those times I was fooled. it's why I am struggling with this right now.

this is because wolves always play mechanically sub-optimally, and say "why would wolves do x, it doesn't make sense"

It's one thing to play sub-optimally with something people will see. But it is another to literally throw away a huge advantage that no one would have to know you had to begin with. They could win the game quicker by keeping a killing role.

[robyn]

Also, lucy, what do you make of Dizzy's behavior before the TSP flip? They were playing like an outed wolf and I was super confused that I had missed something. Thoughts?

will read back

[Spacedaisy]

@Spacedaisy iso my last page or two, I pointed directly at dizzy then she won, I won't say that what dizzy saying isn't reasonable (it probably is) i am saying this is dizzy and I'm not trusting her confirming herself and I'm especially not liking her SRing me in lylo and positioning nobody to vote violet or rico at last second

what is SRing?

[robyn]

I got unexpected trouble on weekend, but now I am fully able to play. I will analyze every post, every player and every vote that has been cast. You can expect results later today

1) I assume this was before ruri's role flipped
2) I assume role flipping late is so that people can inherit or not inherit roles after they kill someone
3) Violet is only other low poster (nobody was breaking 150) and he said he'd be more active

wouldn't u drop the role to look towny, daisy?

[robyn]

@Spacedaisy iso my last page or two, I pointed directly at dizzy then she won, I won't say that what dizzy saying isn't reasonable (it probably is) i am saying this is dizzy and I'm not trusting her confirming herself and I'm especially not liking her SRing me in lylo and positioning nobody to vote violet or rico at last second

what is SRing?

scum reading

[Spacedaisy]

I got unexpected trouble on weekend, but now I am fully able to play. I will analyze every post, every player and every vote that has been cast. You can expect results later today

1) I assume this was before ruri's role flipped
2) I assume role flipping late is so that people can inherit or not inherit roles after they kill someone
3) Violet is only other low poster (nobody was breaking 150) and he said he'd be more active

wouldn't u drop the role to look towny, daisy?

This is why I'm saying if Dizzy is bad, Violet must be their partner.

[Spacedaisy]

@Spacedaisy iso my last page or two, I pointed directly at dizzy then she won, I won't say that what dizzy saying isn't reasonable (it probably is) i am saying this is dizzy and I'm not trusting her confirming herself and I'm especially not liking her SRing me in lylo and positioning nobody to vote violet or rico at last second

what is SRing?

scum reading

Thanks, I'm pretty sure I knew this at one point or another but I could not remember and it was bugging me

[robyn]

I got unexpected trouble on weekend, but now I am fully able to play. I will analyze every post, every player and every vote that has been cast. You can expect results later today

1) I assume this was before ruri's role flipped
2) I assume role flipping late is so that people can inherit or not inherit roles after they kill someone
3) Violet is only other low poster (nobody was breaking 150) and he said he'd be more active

wouldn't u drop the role to look towny, daisy?

This is why I'm saying if Dizzy is bad, Violet must be their partner.

no but I'm saying my logical deduction means even if dizzy was scum violet isn't necessarily the partner due to violet posting more than 5x a day starting d2

[robyn]

I'm gonna sleep

[Spacedaisy]

I'm going to work, I'll be back tomorrow to figure out what I'm going to do

[robyn]

Lucy
daisy
epi

rico
dizzy
violet

@Spacedaisy do u disagree with this readslist

[Spacedaisy]

Daisy
Epi

lucy

violet
Dizzy
Rico

I haven't decided what I feel about you yet.

[robyn]

Daisy
Epi

lucy

violet
Dizzy
Rico

I haven't decided what I feel about you yet.

do you believe I've been towny?

[Spacedaisy]

I don't know, that's my point. Originally it looked like you were trying to keep Epi as a viable suspect and that looked like someone who is scared of PoE to me. I have at times felt you were towny and at times felt you weren't. I can't get a bead on you.

[robyn]

I don't know, that's my point. Originally it looked like you were trying to keep Epi as a viable suspect and that looked like someone who is scared of PoE to me. I have at times felt you were towny and at times felt you weren't. I can't get a bead on you.

question: would I have ever convinced enough people to get an epi Lynch? (both town and scum motivations in my position is to Lynch someone successfully, as town I Lynch who I believe to be scum, as mafia I go for a (some would say easy mislynch but I believe that's not true much of the time) mislynch

my question to u is does it serve either?

[robyn]

I don't know, that's my point. Originally it looked like you were trying to keep Epi as a viable suspect and that looked like someone who is scared of PoE to me. I have at times felt you were towny and at times felt you weren't. I can't get a bead on you.

Hans Niemann has all the anal beads

[robyn]

okay I actually sleep

[Spacedaisy]

I don't know, that's my point. Originally it looked like you were trying to keep Epi as a viable suspect and that looked like someone who is scared of PoE to me. I have at times felt you were towny and at times felt you weren't. I can't get a bead on you.

Hans Niemann has all the anal beads

[Dyslexicon]

Lol

[Dyslexicon]

Can’t be around before tonight.

Hello, specchat! Are you seeing this shit? =p

[Ricochet]

Case file Epignosis

I don’t think there needs to be one.

Is it outside the range of possibility that his role might be non-town? No.
Is it outside the range of possibility that he might lay low, attract little buzz, enjoy the townreads received in general (at times for less than informed / substantiated playing, no less) or for his vig action? No.
Would he place outside POE for his gameplay alone, as opposed to the role factor? Probably not for me.

Still, to project him as a mafioso policy killer seems even more extreme and twisted than yesterday’s take on TSP having constantly tried to drown a teammate.

He was quick to fire with his policy kill, plus revealed the action in real time and reacted to the miss in quick fashion. It was all over in half an hour. That’s a very small window for any backstage strategizing.

Plus, his role would have allowed him to choose a victim from several candidates, had he drawn more votes. If wolf, he could have waited / baited / tested the kill on several players, as a method to clear town danger.

Any case on Epig being wolf would need a Change my mind_meme.jpg. I’m not seeing it.

Read: Town

[Ricochet]

Case file Violet

Role claim musings

1. As stated before yesterday, I see no downside to the role apart from dying (being killed). Jack had that as well, but also with an actual gamble on catching mafia. This role instead reads straightforward mafia booby trap. Every vig role thus far has shown serious downsides or limitations. What makes this role believable, in context of this game’s apparent design?
2. Does the role require to lock on to a wolf in order for the booby trap to work at a later stage?
3. It seems to me Violet never confirmed if the “hostage-taking” meant BTSC.

This role seems to me anti-mafia by design. Personal gameplay dictates how you achieve success with it – Violet chose low-posting, so the hopes with this role were perhaps not to get heat and POE’d mislynched during the Day (so far, so good), but also to attract the night kill (did not pan out).

Furthermore, non-mason BTSC sounds unlikely by default to take place between wolves (or, rather, a mafioso with this role to be allowed to target himself and another teammate in building the BTSC channel).

Hypothesis A

a) This role’s vig shot mechanic is fake, but BTSC occured for real. Violet is mafia. Dizzy is not.
b) This role is entirely fake (the BTSC). Violet is mafia. Dizzy and Violet could have crafted this narrative as mafia.

Hypothesis B

This role is genuine. Violet is town. Dizzy could be either.

Enough wall posting, Rico, where does that leave us?

WIFOMland, that’s where.

If Violet town

- Would expect wolves to push for her mislynch.
- If wolf is lynched today, nightkill proof, assured seat at 3-way LYLO

If Violet wolf, one of the two variables of Hypothesis A is legit.

Read: ???

[Ricochet]

(of course this is taking long as hell)

Case file Dizzy

Previous role stuff

- Claims Ruri nightkill was theirs (#880)
- Inherited Ruri’s role and discarded spankviglol

Spankvig target and kill checks out, as Ruri had only three posts D1.

Further musing: still no clarity offered (even though I asked – #897) on why they chose Ruri over Violet. Both were compatible for the spankkill on D1, so at most Dizzy could have even gambled with a 50% chance kill on either. Bit concerning that answer was only some meta nostalgia for playing with Violet (and shade thrown back at me re: the Rico/Violet pairing).

The spankviglol vig role is probably the least alignment-solvable of those to evaluate. Both town or mafia could have this type of (very) conditional extra shot / game removal.

Current role alluding

As for the inherited role that Dizzy is alluding to, I didn’t pick up the hints, would require more clarity.

Lovertime with Violet

See Violet case.

Wolf/wolf with role claim genuine breaks all logic.
Wolf/wolf with role claim fake is a possibility.
Town Violet / wolf Dizzy is a possibility.
Wolf Violet / town Dizzy is a possibility (less so if vig claim legit).

If wolf/wolf, there has been distancing aplenty. In this scenario, Violet has had lukewarm sus on Dizzy (#708) and has now shifted even more towards red on them (#977). Meanwhile, Dizzy acted hound on Violet without restraint.

If Violet town and Dizzy wolf, Violet has locked on to wolf in her chat so mafia cannot afford to nightkill her, therefore their only hope would be for Violet to be mislynched.

Eliminate all role conjectures, vote pattern

D1
- #34 Moonwink [townflip] – blank
- #102 Ricochet – shallow
- #176 Lucy – “for outed mafia” (?)
- #278 Triple [townflip] – for early and loose reads
- #316 TSP [townflip] – temp vote, blank
- #341 Ricochet – back on, probably after Boq’s player salad assessment
- #342 Triple [townflip] – immediately back
- #446 Dolby [wolfflip] – with Uma dance twerk
- #449 Triple [townflip] – a more solid vibe on phoniness
- #472 Ruri [townflip] – embark on a wagon to lynch inactive, admits it is “CRINGE”
- #488 Triple final [townflip] – tho “prob[ably] town” and “sorry, TH” (#505)

D2
- #645 Ricochet – Dolby angle and overall gut feeling
- #885 Lucy – given D1 votecount
- #946 TSP [townflip] – willing to bus just to get a flip out of the affair and focus on mafia after
- #947 Ricochet – psyche
- #953 Violet – wants her chopped
- #962 TSP [townflip] – meaningless bus vote, with further comment of reading TSP town

You're tearing us apart, Rico, read it already

Dizzying amount [pun intended] of back-and-forths or switcheroos, no close on stronger reads/vibes, any wagon pushed for was for low-tier clean-ups etc. BESIDE, call me judgey, but repeated pattern of bussing the main wagon whilst acknowledging no confidence in a wolf result is either frustrating town behaviour or anxiety-inducing wolf work-around.

I still hold hope that all this from Dizzy is town sprawl, but there’s also nothing I take Dizzy off POE for and it is not the unlikeliest read that it could all be a nervous act, whilst cleaning town all up, including via lynches.

Read: Eternal POE, could vote

[Dyslexicon]

@lucy There are two things that apparently hasn't dawned on you, which I think should've if you were town.

1. I'm mech cleared by being a slank vig who killed Ruri. Because a) If I was mafia, I would never kill Ruri before I killed Violet. I have experience with Ruri, and she has always been a low poster who is mischop bait. She was also up for a chop on D1 this game. Violet, however, is a player I played in champs with and who is normally very active. If both are town, I would choose Violet every time. b) I would have no incentive to claim that I killed Ruri as mafia. I would just kill her and not say anything. c) I would not forfeit the role of a vig if I was mafia. The reason I did it was precisely because I did not want mafia to inherit it if they killed me.

2. Literally the only person I could be teamed with would be Daisy from ypov. All others are non-options. I'm not going to explain why unless you want me to.

Guess I have to do a meaningless buss vote then.

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Spoiler: show

As in town on town

6-2 at best and you want to lynch town. Unbelievable.

@lucy Is this a town post?

what was rico's previous read on tsp, that might've been a slip but I'm not convinced

This is off. You literally had a big discussion with Rico about his TSP town read and him thinking TSP was definitely town from TSP saying to shoot Dolby. That was like Rico's main thing on D2. You said you reread.

However, what you do remember, is that Boq town read both you and Rico, and that is in the forefront of your mind. (Never mind that Boq actually town read everyone except TSP and Violet. So by your own logic... everyone but Violet should be more town from Boq dying.)

This is lopsided. You are picking and choosing information to fit a narrative instead of weighing the information to come to the right conclusion.

What I don't understand here is this:

1. Why does lucy need to be a civilian to understand what you are describing? Why is that something only civilians can "get?"

2. How does your kill of Ruri mechanically clear you? You say "mech," but then follow it up with stuff you would do if this or that. That isn't mechanics. That's you asking us to believe something about you.

1. The point is, town would get it and benefit from it. And mafia would benefit from not getting it and arguing against it. It being the mechanics of my role.

2. It's related to mechanics then. It's still the same as I have said. And you can definitely say it is believing something about me. That is exactly the point. If you believe that I as mafia use my role in this way, then you can vote me and stand behind that. Then I don't know why I'm wasting my time.

[Dyslexicon]

2. Literally the only person I could be teamed with would be Daisy from ypov. All others are non-options. I'm not going to explain why unless you want me to.

You reek of Golden from Game 1.

That's funny, cause I said Golden was like me when I'm mafia in game 1 =p

[Dyslexicon]

The dual "I'm interacting with Dolby and lucy" thing here without interacting with them is fun.

Immediately after, TripleHaven and Moonwink have "fluffy pink auras." That's the extent of my reaction from Dys. Sounds like Dys knows these two are not mafia but likewise knows that one or two of the previously mentioned are.

By the aura, I meant that their personalities lent to being silly, so I didn't have the issue with them that you seemed to have.

[Dyslexicon]

People I'm probably not gonna look at the rest of today because I (genuinely) think they could be town: Lucy, Boquise.

I have Moonwink's role. So I won't vote Lucy.

Can you expand on this?

I have some amount of info too, but not much.

[Dyslexicon]

The mafia is Dyslexicon and Spacedaisy.

We are both town. ^^

[Dyslexicon]

. I don't know what the deal is with lucy's vote.

was just testing something, dizzy should've followed me, since she didn't it's very suspicious

Why? I don't really think it's Epig tbh. He is definitely hard mafia siding, but that happens. Maybe it is him, but I don't really feel like it is.

[Dyslexicon]

dizzy teasing a n1 nk (ergo proclaiming themselves the best player in the game (which is true imo))
since she's still alive without a single successful Lynch I am very inclined to policy her

This is gross.

Everyone who is town has failed to kill town except Jack.

[Dyslexicon]

If the spread stays this way, I will definitely move though, because a tie is not an option here. I would move to either Dizzy or Lucy at this point. A vote on you is just completely baffling to me. I don't know what the deal is with lucy's vote.

it's ridiculous right?
last time I had a 100% confidence read I was right on dizzy and she won a game as mafia
I expected her to follow me because of this fact
because she didn't my conclusion is that she's too agenda'ed to actually bend to my will, ergo mafia

No. I don't trust you. So I'm not following you. In the scenario you talked about I both saw what you meant AND I think it's something I could've done as town as well. So no, I don't care about your so called 100 % confident read when I both don't understand where it comes from and I don't trust you anyway. If we mischop, the game is probably over so

[Ricochet]

Case file lucy

Role stuff

N/A or no clue.

Vote pattern
(might have missed some, lucy doesn’t use the vote button all the time)

D1
- #265 Triple [townflip] – ping vote
- #415 Ruri [townflip] – jump on wagon, clarifies later (#419) intent to clear low-poster
- #502 Triple [townflip] - votes to self-pres

D2
- #760 Ricochet – no reasoning, though impartial (#762)
- #768 Moonwink [townflip] – shortly moves, presumably at Moonwink’s taunt
- #849 TSP [townflip] – down with it
- #850 Ricochet – down with it too
- #851 TSP [townflip] final

Play pattern

D1
- Meta asks much of the field (Moon, Dolby, Daisy, Epignosis, TSP, Rico, Martin, Jack)
- #207 clarifies (to Daisy) that interpretation of meta answers is not her D1 MO, gives a pass to evasive answers
- Next stretch, focuses on interaction with some and others’ pings on her
- #264 promises readslists, even though not her MO this early
- Next stretch, pokes a few (Dizzy, Jack) on their pings and others (Boq, Rico) on reading her
- #410 adds one more ping on Triple, though #412 still leans town, #416 admits it was half-assed ping
- #420 TR Triple for “actual solving”, though on the “fast and loose side”, which mirrors a bit Dizzy’s #278 similar assessment
- #424 would still push Ruri elimination, since not confident in Moon or Triple lynch

D2
- Interprets night kill
- Invites players (Boq) for realtime
- #542 started looking at a Dolby read, then nothing
- #553 states again meta of warming up reads starting D2, with help of realtime
- #557 more on own post-reading skills
- #590 more on own read accuracy, albeit poor in wording
- TRs on Jack, then Epig, then Boq
- Develops twinkies gimmick as an ask across the board
- #606 asks me on reads (on her, dizzy, boq)
- #671 “could tell [of possible mafia] in Dizzy and/or Rico” but put it aside not to get wrong and then less influence, would follow Dizzy
- Inquires Dizzy, Boq, Violet, TSP
- #684 starts an “I know what you’re doing” exchange with Dizzy re their “tactics”
- #728 ping on TSP for “doing nothing”
- #769 “will make a readlist”
- Mad at Epi for his shot
- Exchange with me on TSP angle

I read Lucy’s D1 in quite a bad light, more than anything with natural bias against players with the mindset to do less, solve less or delay such matter. However, I’ve re-read that she wasn’t committed to lynch wagons she didn’t see reasonable (Triple, Moon). Was committed to clearing a low-poster, until self-pres intervened.

More active D2 with several pursuits, but not that sure this time how to sum it up. Ping on twice now having said readlists will happen, yet sticking to none. Townread a fair amount of players, but openly founds reasons to not clear and pursue the TSP lynch.

I’ll push it further in her case that so far during D3 I find her thought process even more confounding. “Certainty” in Epig being bad, meta profiling of wolf Dizzy. Why pursue this? Where does this lead? Where is lucy’s head at? Why is it hard to answer this on MYLO, what does she achieve in playing it so?

If wolf/if town scenarios don’t reveal too much nuance, I think. If town, this is overall a weird play, with less-than-promised aspects of case-making, and I concede that I will have more to learn and reflect on this gameplay of hers post-game. If wolf, it would be a sort of float around play, lynches would align in same way Dizzy’s would i.e. cleaning town.

Read: Nothing to take off POE, could vote

[Dyslexicon]

@Spacedaisy I think team is dizzy/violet or dizzy rico, either way dizzy clearing rico suddenly is disgusting, she was almost certainly setting up to push me instead of violet and pocketing rico in the process if he's town. and implicitly avoiding any votes on violet because they're lovers and dizzy or violet would die. hard to judge because it's lylo

Can you instead of saying it is disgusting comment on the actual argument for why I "cleared" him? He appeared to not know that roles are inheritable. I thought mafia would probably know?

I'm not avoiding any votes on Violet. I'm ok chopping Violet tbh. If they just didn't play and we lose, and they also targeted me with their action, then that's it. Town just lost by bad chops and bad targets.

[Dyslexicon]

I have a hard time reconciling Dizzy's behavior with wolf, especially yesterday unless they are protecting someone. Also, seeing their explanation of mech things I missed, gives me pause. I don't quite understand why it doesn't give anyone else pause.

I would rather see us voting Rico today, frankly. I'll move if I have to though.

Because they can just "believe" something else. Then that sorts it all out.

[Dyslexicon]

Also, seeing their explanation of mech things I missed, gives me pause. I don't quite understand why it doesn't give anyone else pause.

because it is within dizzy's range as scum to do x that is pro town

Yes, some things, but not that. There is no reason to do it, because it wouldn't reflect badly on me to just be a vig and not say anything as mafia. In the game I just hosted there was a role on the mafia team who could give gifts that were useful 1-shots to whoever they chose. They gave it to all town players. I said in spec that I didn't understand that and if it was me, I would just give all the 1-shots to my teammates and not claim my role. You can "believe" this or not, but I think it's pretty evident myself.

[Dyslexicon]

I get that.

Have you read Dizzy's case for them being "mech cleared"? I don't think they are actually mech cleared, because as Epi pointed out, it requires believing they did what they say, however, I can't see a mafia reason to have passed on the role the Ruri flipped.

I haven't actually read the case for being mech conf and admittedly I'd trust it if it came from anyone besides dizzy

I am really not very special.

If you thought I was so good at mafia, you should have voted Rico on D2.

[Dyslexicon]

But I feel like in the last two games I played, I based how I read someone upon not seeing a good reason for a wolf to do what they did, as in I saw no benefit for them and only risk to do what they did if they were wolf. Both of those times I was fooled. it's why I am struggling with this right now.

this is because wolves always play mechanically sub-optimally, and say "why would wolves do x, it doesn't make sense"

No.

Also this completely sidesteps another point. Do you think that mafia would have that role from the beginning at all? So basically an extra kill all game depending on activity.

This is exactly why I suspect you. You're choosing to believe and argue for things I don't think you should as town.

[Dyslexicon]

Seriously

Lol

[Dyslexicon]

@Spacedaisy iso my last page or two, I pointed directly at dizzy then she won, I won't say that what dizzy saying isn't reasonable (it probably is) i am saying this is dizzy and I'm not trusting her confirming herself and I'm especially not liking her SRing me in lylo and positioning nobody to vote violet or rico at last second

People vote whoever the fuck they want. I clearly don't decide that. I don't give a shit if you find that voting Violet is the best.

I might be wrong on Rico. I would love input on literally anything I've been interested it, but I'm not getting a lot. What do YOU think of Rico then.

[Dyslexicon]

I got unexpected trouble on weekend, but now I am fully able to play. I will analyze every post, every player and every vote that has been cast. You can expect results later today

1) I assume this was before ruri's role flipped
2) I assume role flipping late is so that people can inherit or not inherit roles after they kill someone
3) Violet is only other low poster (nobody was breaking 150) and he said he'd be more active

wouldn't u drop the role to look towny, daisy?

That is fair actually.

But it still wouldn't be a mafia role to begin with. So