Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:16 pm
Yeah, I thought Kate would be the target last night. Felt it in my bones.
You are making me do paranoid with all these things you somehow know that the roles don’t account for.
You understand gut play. I’m not sure why everyone keeps looking in the roles… everything is my read of the dynamics of the thread. I wouldn’t be this open about it if there was some secret role-based thing for you to find.
How could you possibly know Vivax was the vanilla baddie? I’ve trusted you most of the game, and want to.
Who do you think would want to kill Kate?
I didn’t know. But the elim felt easy… like the wolves themselves were happy with the target.
I wanted to switch it back to Falcon for this reason, but it wasn’t worth rocking the boat particularly because it was just a gut read.
Question for you… if I’m wolf why do I say it? What if I spook everyone off my vanilla teammate and onto a power role instead?
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:16 pm
Yeah, I thought Kate would be the target last night. Felt it in my bones.
You are making me do paranoid with all these things you somehow know that the roles don’t account for.
You understand gut play. I’m not sure why everyone keeps looking in the roles… everything is my read of the dynamics of the thread. I wouldn’t be this open about it if there was some secret role-based thing for you to find.
How could you possibly know Vivax was the vanilla baddie? I’ve trusted you most of the game, and want to.
Who do you think would want to kill Kate?
I think Kate had a lot of thread clout and was heavily townread so I think she was a good target to avoid being able to pinpoint specific people.
But the fact I think it’s a ‘good kill’ is helpful in itself, in that it means the wolves are still analysing threadstate I think.
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:16 pm
Yeah, I thought Kate would be the target last night. Felt it in my bones.
You are making me do paranoid with all these things you somehow know that the roles don’t account for.
You understand gut play. I’m not sure why everyone keeps looking in the roles… everything is my read of the dynamics of the thread. I wouldn’t be this open about it if there was some secret role-based thing for you to find.
How could you possibly know Vivax was the vanilla baddie? I’ve trusted you most of the game, and want to.
Who do you think would want to kill Kate?
I didn’t know. But the elim felt easy… like the wolves themselves were happy with the target.
I wanted to switch it back to Falcon for this reason, but it wasn’t worth rocking the boat particularly because it was just a gut read.
Question for you… if I’m wolf why do I say it? What if I spook everyone off my vanilla teammate and onto a power role instead?
You wouldn’t. I thought it was maybe a slip you tried to smooth over, but you wouldn’t do that either. I guess it’s that some of your game is confusing me the whole game long, you seem too complacent for where we’re at, I guess.
I feel like we’re floundering around and not getting anywhere. I’ve got friends so imma walk away for a bit.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:16 pm
Yeah, I thought Kate would be the target last night. Felt it in my bones.
You are making me do paranoid with all these things you somehow know that the roles don’t account for.
You understand gut play. I’m not sure why everyone keeps looking in the roles… everything is my read of the dynamics of the thread. I wouldn’t be this open about it if there was some secret role-based thing for you to find.
How could you possibly know Vivax was the vanilla baddie? I’ve trusted you most of the game, and want to.
Who do you think would want to kill Kate?
I didn’t know. But the elim felt easy… like the wolves themselves were happy with the target.
I wanted to switch it back to Falcon for this reason, but it wasn’t worth rocking the boat particularly because it was just a gut read.
Question for you… if I’m wolf why do I say it? What if I spook everyone off my vanilla teammate and onto a power role instead?
You wouldn’t. I thought it was maybe a slip you tried to smooth over, but you wouldn’t do that either. I guess it’s that some of your game is confusing me the whole game long, you seem too complacent for where we’re at, I guess.
I feel like we’re floundering around and not getting anywhere. I’ve got friends so imma walk away for a bit.
I truly believe we have a large town core and very few people who could possibly we wolves. I can understand why that reads as complacency.
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 pm
I spent the night looking into fingersplints in particular, because Roxy has been quite insistent she can read her friend and was begging me to be willing to listen to other voices.
In the moment, I thought maybe vivax was trying to deepwolf fingersplints. In hindsight, I don’t think so… I think vivax was trying to take fingersplints down behind him, and I’m glad Roxy was insistent on making me take another look.
Posting on phone but I’ll probably back this up with some of the things I saw when I isoed when i can get on my pc. But the gut feeling I got reading through is that I wouldn’t be interested in elimming fingersplints.
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:52 pm
I did also think the target could be me again just so people could get some relief from all my tapping.
Would your read of the game change if you knew you were never targeted for a kill?
Not substantially, but my read of Seanzie might because if he didn’t doc save me his posting that day about sheeping me is mighty suspicious.
I mean I think his posting has been mighty suspect all game. It’s been a point of contention, but I can’t pull the trigger on thinking he is scum for it
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:52 pm
I did also think the target could be me again just so people could get some relief from all my tapping.
Would your read of the game change if you knew you were never targeted for a kill?
Not substantially, but my read of Seanzie might because if he didn’t doc save me his posting that day about sheeping me is mighty suspicious.
I mean I think his posting has been mighty suspect all game. It’s been a point of contention, but I can’t pull the trigger on thinking he is scum for it
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 pm
I spent the night looking into fingersplints in particular, because Roxy has been quite insistent she can read her friend and was begging me to be willing to listen to other voices.
In the moment, I thought maybe vivax was trying to deepwolf fingersplints. In hindsight, I don’t think so… I think vivax was trying to take fingersplints down behind him, and I’m glad Roxy was insistent on making me take another look.
Posting on phone but I’ll probably back this up with some of the things I saw when I isoed when i can get on my pc. But the gut feeling I got reading through is that I wouldn’t be interested in elimming fingersplints.
Fingers is def POE yo
Am I not allowed to take splints out of my wolfreads and townlean her? Why not?
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:52 pm
I did also think the target could be me again just so people could get some relief from all my tapping.
Would your read of the game change if you knew you were never targeted for a kill?
Not substantially, but my read of Seanzie might because if he didn’t doc save me his posting that day about sheeping me is mighty suspicious.
I mean I think his posting has been mighty suspect all game. It’s been a point of contention, but I can’t pull the trigger on thinking he is scum for it
Honestly I’m 99% that hes doc that didn’t like that I outed him and tinfoiled that I was wolf and we skipped kill to ID doc
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 pm
I spent the night looking into fingersplints in particular, because Roxy has been quite insistent she can read her friend and was begging me to be willing to listen to other voices.
In the moment, I thought maybe vivax was trying to deepwolf fingersplints. In hindsight, I don’t think so… I think vivax was trying to take fingersplints down behind him, and I’m glad Roxy was insistent on making me take another look.
Posting on phone but I’ll probably back this up with some of the things I saw when I isoed when i can get on my pc. But the gut feeling I got reading through is that I wouldn’t be interested in elimming fingersplints.
Fingers is def POE yo
Am I not allowed to take splints out of my wolfreads and townlean her? Why not?
I mean, like you won't get modkilled or anything for it, so go nutty
But they are well within their wolf range, for sure.
Are you townreading them moreso based off how the vivax things you mentioned, or is it based off what fingers has done herself?
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 pm
I spent the night looking into fingersplints in particular, because Roxy has been quite insistent she can read her friend and was begging me to be willing to listen to other voices.
In the moment, I thought maybe vivax was trying to deepwolf fingersplints. In hindsight, I don’t think so… I think vivax was trying to take fingersplints down behind him, and I’m glad Roxy was insistent on making me take another look.
Posting on phone but I’ll probably back this up with some of the things I saw when I isoed when i can get on my pc. But the gut feeling I got reading through is that I wouldn’t be interested in elimming fingersplints.
Fingers is def POE yo
Am I not allowed to take splints out of my wolfreads and townlean her? Why not?
I mean, like you won't get modkilled or anything for it, so go nutty
But they are well within their wolf range, for sure.
Are you townreading them moreso based off how the vivax things you mentioned, or is it based off what fingers has done herself?
I isoed mata, you, vivax and splints herself. And I did it because Roxy really did make a point of asking me not to be so determined and to listen to other voices and she is quite adamant splints is town.
Takeaway was I don’t think she’s wolf compatible with a vivax/Falcon team. I don’t think it’s that she is out of wolfrange, I think it’s that, on reflection, the wolfteam was trying to get her miselimmed behind them… a tactic I often have used myself as wolf and on reflection that’s what my gut says I’m seeing (and this is true based on mata/vivax even if I’m wrong about you).
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 pm
I spent the night looking into fingersplints in particular, because Roxy has been quite insistent she can read her friend and was begging me to be willing to listen to other voices.
In the moment, I thought maybe vivax was trying to deepwolf fingersplints. In hindsight, I don’t think so… I think vivax was trying to take fingersplints down behind him, and I’m glad Roxy was insistent on making me take another look.
Posting on phone but I’ll probably back this up with some of the things I saw when I isoed when i can get on my pc. But the gut feeling I got reading through is that I wouldn’t be interested in elimming fingersplints.
Fingers is def POE yo
Am I not allowed to take splints out of my wolfreads and townlean her? Why not?
I mean, like you won't get modkilled or anything for it, so go nutty
But they are well within their wolf range, for sure.
Are you townreading them moreso based off how the vivax things you mentioned, or is it based off what fingers has done herself?
I isoed mata, you, vivax and splints herself. And I did it because Roxy really did make a point of asking me not to be so determined and to listen to other voices and she is quite adamant splints is town.
Takeaway was I don’t think she’s wolf compatible with a vivax/Falcon team. I don’t think it’s that she is out of wolfrange, I think it’s that, on reflection, the wolfteam was trying to get her miselimmed behind them… a tactic I often have used myself as wolf and on reflection that’s what my gut says I’m seeing (and this is true based on mata/vivax even if I’m wrong about you).
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 pm
I spent the night looking into fingersplints in particular, because Roxy has been quite insistent she can read her friend and was begging me to be willing to listen to other voices.
In the moment, I thought maybe vivax was trying to deepwolf fingersplints. In hindsight, I don’t think so… I think vivax was trying to take fingersplints down behind him, and I’m glad Roxy was insistent on making me take another look.
Posting on phone but I’ll probably back this up with some of the things I saw when I isoed when i can get on my pc. But the gut feeling I got reading through is that I wouldn’t be interested in elimming fingersplints.
Fingers is def POE yo
Am I not allowed to take splints out of my wolfreads and townlean her? Why not?
I mean, like you won't get modkilled or anything for it, so go nutty
But they are well within their wolf range, for sure.
Are you townreading them moreso based off how the vivax things you mentioned, or is it based off what fingers has done herself?
I isoed mata, you, vivax and splints herself. And I did it because Roxy really did make a point of asking me not to be so determined and to listen to other voices and she is quite adamant splints is town.
Takeaway was I don’t think she’s wolf compatible with a vivax/Falcon team. I don’t think it’s that she is out of wolfrange, I think it’s that, on reflection, the wolfteam was trying to get her miselimmed behind them… a tactic I often have used myself as wolf and on reflection that’s what my gut says I’m seeing (and this is true based on mata/vivax even if I’m wrong about you).
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:04 pm
Nooo Kate I’m sorry to see you go
Yeah, but are you?
Would Maf Scotty be so bold as to kill someone given heat to his slot?
Hmmmm...maybe
Is this the position you’re choosing to take coming into today?
So you only switched to Vivax yesterday when he had no chance to come back. I don’t even remember who you suspected for the day yesterday
Who is your top scum read, falcon?
Oh pish posh, you know I'm not the type to come in with a "position"...I poke and prod til something comes loose.
I wasn't around much last RD, I was pukey pukerson. I did give my take in vivax/mata, tho I noticed that Golden preshaded me right near EOD
I'm not sold on the whole Golden/Sean stuff to be real, but I'll set that aside for this RD.
Dennis, lucy, and fingers are a good POE for me, but there's a few pies I wanna dig into this RD
Preshaded you right before EoD?
Falcon, my vote was on you for most of the phase and the wash on on vivax was predicated on me making the case that you two are wolfmates.
Yeah, that's fair. Preshade is the wrong choice of words, you sussed my slot the whole RD.
I spose I more mean the timing of one of your posts before EOD SRing me based off their flip, as in preshade...like, am I still scum if vivax flipped villager?
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 pm
I spent the night looking into fingersplints in particular, because Roxy has been quite insistent she can read her friend and was begging me to be willing to listen to other voices.
In the moment, I thought maybe vivax was trying to deepwolf fingersplints. In hindsight, I don’t think so… I think vivax was trying to take fingersplints down behind him, and I’m glad Roxy was insistent on making me take another look.
Posting on phone but I’ll probably back this up with some of the things I saw when I isoed when i can get on my pc. But the gut feeling I got reading through is that I wouldn’t be interested in elimming fingersplints.
Fingers is def POE yo
Am I not allowed to take splints out of my wolfreads and townlean her? Why not?
I mean, like you won't get modkilled or anything for it, so go nutty
But they are well within their wolf range, for sure.
Are you townreading them moreso based off how the vivax things you mentioned, or is it based off what fingers has done herself?
I isoed mata, you, vivax and splints herself. And I did it because Roxy really did make a point of asking me not to be so determined and to listen to other voices and she is quite adamant splints is town.
Takeaway was I don’t think she’s wolf compatible with a vivax/Falcon team. I don’t think it’s that she is out of wolfrange, I think it’s that, on reflection, the wolfteam was trying to get her miselimmed behind them… a tactic I often have used myself as wolf and on reflection that’s what my gut says I’m seeing (and this is true based on mata/vivax even if I’m wrong about you).
So now how does this world look if I'm green?
Cuz I am, just like the Jelly
Then there’s a deepwolf to find.
Well, now why is that the case?
Fingers could be wolf, and I'd hesitate to say their deepwolf. Ditto lucy
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 pm
I spent the night looking into fingersplints in particular, because Roxy has been quite insistent she can read her friend and was begging me to be willing to listen to other voices.
In the moment, I thought maybe vivax was trying to deepwolf fingersplints. In hindsight, I don’t think so… I think vivax was trying to take fingersplints down behind him, and I’m glad Roxy was insistent on making me take another look.
Posting on phone but I’ll probably back this up with some of the things I saw when I isoed when i can get on my pc. But the gut feeling I got reading through is that I wouldn’t be interested in elimming fingersplints.
Fingers is def POE yo
Am I not allowed to take splints out of my wolfreads and townlean her? Why not?
I mean, like you won't get modkilled or anything for it, so go nutty
But they are well within their wolf range, for sure.
Are you townreading them moreso based off how the vivax things you mentioned, or is it based off what fingers has done herself?
I isoed mata, you, vivax and splints herself. And I did it because Roxy really did make a point of asking me not to be so determined and to listen to other voices and she is quite adamant splints is town.
Takeaway was I don’t think she’s wolf compatible with a vivax/Falcon team. I don’t think it’s that she is out of wolfrange, I think it’s that, on reflection, the wolfteam was trying to get her miselimmed behind them… a tactic I often have used myself as wolf and on reflection that’s what my gut says I’m seeing (and this is true based on mata/vivax even if I’m wrong about you).
This game keeps sucking me in.
Too much knowing going on in this game for me.
I’ll do your Rainbow in the AM, and I want to do some GTH readings at some point. I find they help.
Skip softly, my moonbeams, for I have heard tell
That the stairs up to heaven lead straight down to hell
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:04 pm
Nooo Kate I’m sorry to see you go
Yeah, but are you?
Would Maf Scotty be so bold as to kill someone given heat to his slot?
Hmmmm...maybe
Is this the position you’re choosing to take coming into today?
So you only switched to Vivax yesterday when he had no chance to come back. I don’t even remember who you suspected for the day yesterday
Who is your top scum read, falcon?
Oh pish posh, you know I'm not the type to come in with a "position"...I poke and prod til something comes loose.
I wasn't around much last RD, I was pukey pukerson. I did give my take in vivax/mata, tho I noticed that Golden preshaded me right near EOD
I'm not sold on the whole Golden/Sean stuff to be real, but I'll set that aside for this RD.
Dennis, lucy, and fingers are a good POE for me, but there's a few pies I wanna dig into this RD
Preshaded you right before EoD?
Falcon, my vote was on you for most of the phase and the wash on on vivax was predicated on me making the case that you two are wolfmates.
Yeah, that's fair. Preshade is the wrong choice of words, you sussed my slot the whole RD.
I spose I more mean the timing of one of your posts before EOD SRing me based off their flip, as in preshade...like, am I still scum if vivax flipped villager?
Not necessarily actually. I had you wolfpaired and the read was definitely collective, I think me doing a 180 on you today was quite possible if vivax flipped town. And I probably woulda spent my night reading up on you instead of splints.
Am I not allowed to take splints out of my wolfreads and townlean her? Why not?
I mean, like you won't get modkilled or anything for it, so go nutty
But they are well within their wolf range, for sure.
Are you townreading them moreso based off how the vivax things you mentioned, or is it based off what fingers has done herself?
I isoed mata, you, vivax and splints herself. And I did it because Roxy really did make a point of asking me not to be so determined and to listen to other voices and she is quite adamant splints is town.
Takeaway was I don’t think she’s wolf compatible with a vivax/Falcon team. I don’t think it’s that she is out of wolfrange, I think it’s that, on reflection, the wolfteam was trying to get her miselimmed behind them… a tactic I often have used myself as wolf and on reflection that’s what my gut says I’m seeing (and this is true based on mata/vivax even if I’m wrong about you).
So now how does this world look if I'm green?
Cuz I am, just like the Jelly
Then there’s a deepwolf to find.
Well, now why is that the case?
Fingers could be wolf, and I'd hesitate to say their deepwolf. Ditto lucy
Dennis I'd consider deep
I don’t think splints/Lucy are w/w based on day 2. And I wouldn’t call scotty deepwolf but I think most would. Anyone else is deepwolf to me.
Am I not allowed to take splints out of my wolfreads and townlean her? Why not?
I mean, like you won't get modkilled or anything for it, so go nutty
But they are well within their wolf range, for sure.
Are you townreading them moreso based off how the vivax things you mentioned, or is it based off what fingers has done herself?
I isoed mata, you, vivax and splints herself. And I did it because Roxy really did make a point of asking me not to be so determined and to listen to other voices and she is quite adamant splints is town.
Takeaway was I don’t think she’s wolf compatible with a vivax/Falcon team. I don’t think it’s that she is out of wolfrange, I think it’s that, on reflection, the wolfteam was trying to get her miselimmed behind them… a tactic I often have used myself as wolf and on reflection that’s what my gut says I’m seeing (and this is true based on mata/vivax even if I’m wrong about you).
So now how does this world look if I'm green?
Cuz I am, just like the Jelly
Then there’s a deepwolf to find.
Well, now why is that the case?
Fingers could be wolf, and I'd hesitate to say their deepwolf. Ditto lucy
Dennis I'd consider deep
I don’t think splints/Lucy are w/w based on day 2. And I wouldn’t call scotty deepwolf but I think most would. Anyone else is deepwolf to me.
I mean, like you won't get modkilled or anything for it, so go nutty
But they are well within their wolf range, for sure.
Are you townreading them moreso based off how the vivax things you mentioned, or is it based off what fingers has done herself?
I isoed mata, you, vivax and splints herself. And I did it because Roxy really did make a point of asking me not to be so determined and to listen to other voices and she is quite adamant splints is town.
Takeaway was I don’t think she’s wolf compatible with a vivax/Falcon team. I don’t think it’s that she is out of wolfrange, I think it’s that, on reflection, the wolfteam was trying to get her miselimmed behind them… a tactic I often have used myself as wolf and on reflection that’s what my gut says I’m seeing (and this is true based on mata/vivax even if I’m wrong about you).
So now how does this world look if I'm green?
Cuz I am, just like the Jelly
Then there’s a deepwolf to find.
Well, now why is that the case?
Fingers could be wolf, and I'd hesitate to say their deepwolf. Ditto lucy
Dennis I'd consider deep
I don’t think splints/Lucy are w/w based on day 2. And I wouldn’t call scotty deepwolf but I think most would. Anyone else is deepwolf to me.
Roxy?
I feel like I keep forgetting about them
A lot of people I trust are/were townreading Roxy, so if Roxy is bad, yeah it's deepwolfing.
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:21 pm
I spent the night looking into fingersplints in particular, because Roxy has been quite insistent she can read her friend and was begging me to be willing to listen to other voices.
In the moment, I thought maybe vivax was trying to deepwolf fingersplints. In hindsight, I don’t think so… I think vivax was trying to take fingersplints down behind him, and I’m glad Roxy was insistent on making me take another look.
Posting on phone but I’ll probably back this up with some of the things I saw when I isoed when i can get on my pc. But the gut feeling I got reading through is that I wouldn’t be interested in elimming fingersplints.
Fingers is def POE yo
Am I not allowed to take splints out of my wolfreads and townlean her? Why not?
I mean, like you won't get modkilled or anything for it, so go nutty
But they are well within their wolf range, for sure.
Are you townreading them moreso based off how the vivax things you mentioned, or is it based off what fingers has done herself?
I isoed mata, you, vivax and splints herself. And I did it because Roxy really did make a point of asking me not to be so determined and to listen to other voices and she is quite adamant splints is town.
Takeaway was I don’t think she’s wolf compatible with a vivax/Falcon team. I don’t think it’s that she is out of wolfrange, I think it’s that, on reflection, the wolfteam was trying to get her miselimmed behind them… a tactic I often have used myself as wolf and on reflection that’s what my gut says I’m seeing (and this is true based on mata/vivax even if I’m wrong about you).
Hmm maybe
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
The more I think about it- i don’t ever see a world with splints/Roxy w/w.
I currently read Roxy as Townlean but that could fluctuate. I’ve liked the output she’s put out.
The possibility of her being wolf makes sense if you believe her firm townread of splints is TMI. I don’t currently think that
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather;
not screaming like the people in his car
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:03 am
The more I think about it- i don’t ever see a world with splints/Roxy w/w.
I currently read Roxy as Townlean but that could fluctuate. I’ve liked the output she’s put out.
The possibility of her being wolf makes sense if you believe her firm townread of splints is TMI. I don’t currently think that
Yeah, I went through all the iterations of this. W/W really does seem unlikely, but given how firm Roxy is I’m also starting to feel like T/W is also unlikely… part of how I’ve come around to ‘eh, I think it’s time to look in other places’.
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:06 am
If falcon is bad, he’s laying some grade-A distancing on splints today.
If falcon is good, I still don’t think splints is bad in this situation. The more I think about it. I don’t know who splints would be partnered with.
Vivax also laid down grade-A distancing yesterday. And then when I mentioned I thought they might be trying to deepwolf fingersplints, he laid down some more. That was probably the start of the siren going off for me.
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 12:06 am
If falcon is good, I still don’t think splints is bad in this situation. The more I think about it. I don’t know who splints would be partnered with.
Lol it’s funny watching you go through the exact same thought process I went through during the night.
