The Syndicate

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:54 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:50 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:43 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:43 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:54 pm Reads are for nerds.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:57 pm Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

Nice

what do you think of that

Sloonei is starting to ping me as scum

For the thing you just quoted, along with the setup speculation?

@tutuu you never responded when I first addressed you over this.

How is the above over elaborating? I'm pretty obviously just asking Falcon for clarification on his Sloonei read

You run in to thread yelling about how excited you are to be playing Mafia but this is your top scum read and basis for it? Really? I don't believe you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?

Why do you think?

you want to test her accuracy? That's the only goal of the chop? Meh

No. I want the best deepwolf candidate in the POE resolved first before they get a foothold in the thread and start mowing down their adversaries and building the gamestate to favour themselves.

eh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:23 am Wolf: Mac is town
Mac: Thank you wolf, who do you think is mafia?
Wolf: Tutuu is mafia
Mac: Thank you for clearing Tutuu for me, who is mafia now?
Wolf: Ted is mafia
Mac: Thank you for spewing Ted your teammate

Advanced Mafia Fundamentals.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 am The frustrating thing about getting better at Mafia in a competitive environment is that everyone else is also getting better at the same time. It's like level scaling in a bad video game.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:37 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:34 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:33 am Yeah I mean I thought you were Ted so it's me who's having a stroke not you.

are you alright fella

actually no I have had the most stressful day and here I am now playing mafia at the end of it which is one of my primary vices and a strong precursor to heavy drinking

awhhhh huggie huggie huggie it's okay

Drinking sucks anyway it makes you feel like shit!!!! play stardew valley it's calming and listen to folk music I can send you some

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:39 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 am The frustrating thing about getting better at Mafia in a competitive environment is that everyone else is also getting better at the same time. It's like level scaling in a bad video game.

Rofl

Oblivion

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:25 pm - Fingersplints is doing all the townie stuff that she usually does in other games, but she isn't as obvious town to me as she has been in both other games I've seen her town. I would like to understand why. This is the primary reason for reading her only lightly town and why I have her as a slot to look into.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:18 am [VOTE: Oddmerta ] aubergine

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:28 am I’m beginning to realise I’m going to have a hard time keeping up with this game with this kind of posting. I missed some day 0 pages that I planned on going back to today but I’m going to try these ones first as I’m guessing they will be more important

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:44 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:28 am I’m beginning to realise I’m going to have a hard time keeping up with this game with this kind of posting. I missed some day 0 pages that I planned on going back to today but I’m going to try these ones first as I’m guessing they will be more important

Why do you think that?

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:15 am Up to page 24 now, I don’t agree with the suspicion of Jay (from TonyStarkPrime) and Alison (from staypositivefriend).
Both seem pretty townie to me right now.
TonyStarkPrime’s seems more flimsy out of the two, but I still have more to go. We’ll see

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:45 am An expanded Oddmerta read from @Alison would be neat here.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:50 am The thing about Sloonei is not a single post he has made yet do I have to squint too hard to attribute to him in his scum meta.

Everyone clear out, Mac is farting.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:57 am after thinking about it more, i actually feel that alison's approach to reading my slot may be town indicative for her. i would need to re-read her to know for sure, but she could just be town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:05 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:46 pm Town: JJJ, MacDougall, Nanook, Oddmerta, Sloonei, Strawhenge, falcon45ca

Light town: Esooa, fingersplints, BoKnows

Null: Dom, Michelle, Long Con, Marmot

Mixed: tutuu, staypositivefriedn

POE: AL_sama, JPIC, KZA, TonyStarkPrime, tedxtr

Here's where I'm at.

@JaggedJimmyJay @Sloonei @tutuu @Esooa @Michelle

You guys are on Alison duty. Here's the rules.

Alison's current readslist is >rand accurate regardless of alignment. Her reads must remain good and she must remain day in and day out responsible for the pelting of wolves to remain above the line.

The idea is that we force her into the light, or force her to kill her teammates.

If at any stage of the game after I am dead there are more than two consecutive town mislynches and if Alison is still alive, instantly kill her.

As it stands I believe she is town and expect she will self resolve early, but these are the runes. Use them wisely.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am I think we go for the big game today. If Alison is town and her readslist is as accurate as I feel that it is we should flip TSP straight away.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:21 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:15 am Up to page 24 now, I don’t agree with the suspicion of Jay (from TonyStarkPrime) and Alison (from staypositivefriend).
Both seem pretty townie to me right now.
TonyStarkPrime’s seems more flimsy out of the two, but I still have more to go. We’ll see

What was flimsy about it?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:56 pm A few things have thrown me off from the beginning but his current vote for Marmot is something that inclines me to think that way as well. I also just don't think his iso is carrying the proper tone and I'm wondering if his read on sloonei was developed improperly. He also also seems hesistant to say things that I wouldn't usually think he'd be hesitant to say. I did like the post he made where he talked about sloonei/jay mutual TRs and how seriously they're taken or something though idk

this is probably just the usual day 1 jay tinfoil but that's where I'm at

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:08 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 am why big game over other people though?

Why do you think?

you want to test her accuracy? That's the only goal of the chop? Meh

No. I want the best deepwolf candidate in the POE resolved first before they get a foothold in the thread and start mowing down their adversaries and building the gamestate to favour themselves.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:21 am I don't expect you to. I just wish that you would hurry up and get to the point where you realise that being town is easier when you just find other town and work with them instead of questioning your townreads reasons for townreading you for no apparent reason lol.

Getting townread is great for you as either alignment. Catching a wolf for townreading you is fun but it's also not something you should slap a wolf for. The more you force a wolf to be correct the harder it is for them to find a winning miselim. Got someone like SPF who appears to be mafia townreading you? Don't ask them why, just let them and then nope them when they push onto your godreads lol.

That's how we do it in the old folks home anyway.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:21 am I don't expect you to. I just wish that you would hurry up and get to the point where you realise that being town is easier when you just find other town and work with them instead of questioning your townreads reasons for townreading you for no apparent reason lol.

Getting townread is great for you as either alignment. Catching a wolf for townreading you is fun but it's also not something you should slap a wolf for. The more you force a wolf to be correct the harder it is for them to find a winning miselim. Got someone like SPF who appears to be mafia townreading you? Don't ask them why, just let them and then nope them when they push onto your godreads lol.

That's how we do it in the old folks home anyway.

That's my philosophy as well. I'll still call it out if someone makes a read on me that's really questionable but as far as I'm concerned hard sheeping me is rarely going to be a winning strategy for wolves so I'm usually fine just ignoring sheepers and let them self resolve.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:43 am I have caught up.

Esooa and Mac are both obvious town. I would sheep Mac, but Mac wants to sheep me. We have the same reads anyway so it probably doesn't matter.

Oddmerta is town. Do not vote him. Trust me on this.

SPF has been pretty townie since my last criticism of her.

Al_Sama dropping off the face of the earth is very concerning and him and KZA might have the highest % of flipping scum right now.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:47 am Because you've spent more time arguing fruitlessly about mafia theory than trying to put your hand in to influence the game.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:47 am Because you've spent more time arguing fruitlessly about mafia theory than trying to put your hand in to influence the game.

do nothing = obvious town

easy game

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:51 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:48 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:47 am Because you've spent more time arguing fruitlessly about mafia theory than trying to put your hand in to influence the game.

do nothing = obvious town

easy game

Not quite.

You're reasonably present in the thread, and actively engaging in the game. You aren't hiding from the rest of the game and trying to slip under the radar. At the same time you aren't trying to hard push miselims or pocket/buddy up with anyone. I can't think of any slot which would make sense as a pocket victim for you. I think in this player list especially you would be eager to influence the game strongly and try to tilt things in a favorable direction if you were mafia. As it is you are concerned with making sure your voice is heard but you aren't overtly trying to steer the game. That's pretty townie.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 am Esooa's insistence of questioning her townclears is entering twilight zone territory tho. So if you're trying to give yourself NK cover by getting suspected or something keep going.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:54 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 am Esooa's insistence of questioning her townclears is entering twilight zone territory tho. So if you're trying to give yourself NK cover by getting suspected or something keep going.

I dab on you dab dab dab dab

it's simply the easiest point of discussion for me with other players

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:56 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:54 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 am Esooa's insistence of questioning her townclears is entering twilight zone territory tho. So if you're trying to give yourself NK cover by getting suspected or something keep going.

I dab on you dab dab dab dab

it's simply the easiest point of discussion for me with other players

Try doing something mildly scummy and then omgussing anyone who goes after you for it. Much more fun imo.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:31 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:21 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:15 am Up to page 24 now, I don’t agree with the suspicion of Jay (from TonyStarkPrime) and Alison (from staypositivefriend).
Both seem pretty townie to me right now.
TonyStarkPrime’s seems more flimsy out of the two, but I still have more to go. We’ll see

What was flimsy about it?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:56 pm A few things have thrown me off from the beginning but his current vote for Marmot is something that inclines me to think that way as well. I also just don't think his iso is carrying the proper tone and I'm wondering if his read on sloonei was developed improperly. He also also seems hesistant to say things that I wouldn't usually think he'd be hesitant to say. I did like the post he made where he talked about sloonei/jay mutual TRs and how seriously they're taken or something though idk

this is probably just the usual day 1 jay tinfoil but that's where I'm at

The talk of jay’s tone and being hesitant both of which I’m not really seeing. Not really sure I understand the Sloonei comparison as a negative. They’ve always played kind of similar to me so it’s not really something I find suspicious.
I’m also not really sure I understand the Marmot vote comment. It reads to me that it’s making him also suspect marmot while simultaneously suspecting jay.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:58 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:56 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:54 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 am Esooa's insistence of questioning her townclears is entering twilight zone territory tho. So if you're trying to give yourself NK cover by getting suspected or something keep going.

I dab on you dab dab dab dab

it's simply the easiest point of discussion for me with other players

Try doing something mildly scummy and then omgussing anyone who goes after you for it. Much more fun imo.

I can't even think of anything scummy to do

I'm just a beacon of townyness

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 am Esooa's insistence of questioning her townclears is entering twilight zone territory tho. So if you're trying to give yourself NK cover by getting suspected or something keep going.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 am Esooa's insistence of questioning her townclears is entering twilight zone territory tho. So if you're trying to give yourself NK cover by getting suspected or something keep going.

I don't think that theory makes sense, if Esooa is mafia here she has lots of nightkills she could make that wouldn't raise an eyebrow (Sloonei, you, Jay, me, etc.) which would provide more than enough explanation why she's still alive.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:08 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:00 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 am Esooa's insistence of questioning her townclears is entering twilight zone territory tho. So if you're trying to give yourself NK cover by getting suspected or something keep going.

I don't think that theory makes sense, if Esooa is mafia here she has lots of nightkills she could make that wouldn't raise an eyebrow (Sloonei, you, Jay, me, etc.) which would provide more than enough explanation why she's still alive.

Sorry I didn't mean that. I meant town Esooa trying to look scummy and attract sus by tilting those townreading her. It was a joke tho.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:12 am I don't usually laugh at your posts but when I do I choke on my spit and die.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:01 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:08 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:48 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:47 pm I am interested in investigating the following people more:
- Marmot
- SPF
- Dom
- Long Con
- Fingersplints

what about @Michelle

I usually don't have a huge amount of trouble reading Michelle, and she's the type whose alignment becomes more and more clear over the course of the game. So I don't see a huge need to investigate her right now.

Strangely enough, this post gives me the closest thing to a town read on Alison that I've had all game.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:27 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:05 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:59 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:57 pm actual read: some of your posts this game have given me the impression that you're doing a sloonei impersonation

Stuff like this is what concerns me. I don't have to do a Sloonei "impression". There's a reason he and I are memed together so often. It's been this way as long as you've been here.

you are not the same person

You're right that I am not Jay, but he and I still share enough similarities that players routinely confuse me for being him.

Er, I meant to say you're right that I am not Sloonei. Sorry, typo.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:04 am Michelle is town tho.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:58 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:31 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:21 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:15 am Up to page 24 now, I don’t agree with the suspicion of Jay (from TonyStarkPrime) and Alison (from staypositivefriend).
Both seem pretty townie to me right now.
TonyStarkPrime’s seems more flimsy out of the two, but I still have more to go. We’ll see

What was flimsy about it?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:56 pm A few things have thrown me off from the beginning but his current vote for Marmot is something that inclines me to think that way as well. I also just don't think his iso is carrying the proper tone and I'm wondering if his read on sloonei was developed improperly. He also also seems hesistant to say things that I wouldn't usually think he'd be hesitant to say. I did like the post he made where he talked about sloonei/jay mutual TRs and how seriously they're taken or something though idk

this is probably just the usual day 1 jay tinfoil but that's where I'm at

The talk of jay’s tone and being hesitant both of which I’m not really seeing. Not really sure I understand the Sloonei comparison as a negative. They’ve always played kind of similar to me so it’s not really something I find suspicious.
I’m also not really sure I understand the Marmot vote comment. It reads to me that it’s making him also suspect marmot while simultaneously suspecting jay.

I didn't really get that from TSP's post in regards to sussing marmot from the voting comment with marmot/JJJ, it read like he suspects JJJ for voting Marmot. It's worth noting though that TSP elaborated later that he didn't have a read on Marmot.