Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:50 am
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Why rabbit and not lapluie? She's even more suss than someone who's not been online at all. She was posting in numerous other threads yesterday and not here (by yesterday, I mean day before yesterday...this day has lasted forever thanks to the draft).TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:30 amThis is accurate. Discussion today has been halted by Epi going after Dunya and JJJ. There isn't much room of discussion outside of that unless someone wants to try to convince Epi that he's wrong.Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:13 amI also don't really think this thing where you take control of the entire lynch is a good idea. Regardless of whether you have good ideas about who should be lynched, and regardless of whether you're even telling the truth about having a lynch switch at all, claiming that you do risks stifles discussion. If people believe their votes don't matter then they'll spend less time talking about who they're going to vote for and who they suspect. I don't see what the positive is supposed to be.
But Epi could be making all of this up.
If everything Epi has said is a lie, then as it stands Nutella would get lynched. I don't like that outcome but I don't have a better one. I'll make the inevitable late day 1 argument: anyone wanna lynch rabbit? Seems pretty quiet.
Do you think he's wrong?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑There isn't much room of discussion outside of that unless someone wants to try to convince Epi that he's wrong.
For someone who put Epi/Colin in the civ/civ pile, Colin sure is thrown down under Epi for strategic reasons, isn't he? Easier to lynch for you?
Do you mean you can't wait to be promoted? I don't think you're getting a secret role if you didn't get one with your backstory already.
This. My vocabulary doesn't get that far, or at least I think stuck means somerhing else.colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:13 pmI think he misunderstood "getting stuck in"Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:46 pmWhen I think about early content the first "real" contributors I recall are you and rdw. I don't know where the latter is now, but you stand out as wanting to get things done.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:00 amSorry, what are you talking about? You mean when I took a while to give someone a role because I hadnt read the rules?
I also don't understand the expression of "getting stuck in" to mean something good. Does he mean getting sucked in?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:07 amThis. My vocabulary doesn't get that far, or at least I think stuck means somerhing else.colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:13 pmI think he misunderstood "getting stuck in"Quin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:46 pmWhen I think about early content the first "real" contributors I recall are you and rdw. I don't know where the latter is now, but you stand out as wanting to get things done.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:00 amSorry, what are you talking about? You mean when I took a while to give someone a role because I hadnt read the rules?
I'd also like to learn why sprityo is so high up your list. Your only mention of him was in a side passing civ cred for something Dr. White suspected sprityo off and you awarded him town points for it. Is that the extent of it? Your 5th most trusted townie because of that?
I didn't notice you were asking for others tbh.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:14 pmyeah, I asked for wyvern or pegasus for mostly flavory reasons, though like it would have been cool to get the vig but I totally don't blame DDL for giving me the weaker of the ones I asked for, as I probably would have done for Wilgy had Tony not come along with a more straightforward requestKylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:10 pmdidn't you also ask for the wyvern though?
I started a post about Epi/nutella being w/w and how his blatant refusal at discussing her was a grand case of WIFOM but I decided because Epi is so unhelpful and arrogant, I am instead going to ignore him completely this rest of the day phase until he stops acting like a chicken shit and does shit. Because discrediting him is his greatest torture.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:05 am Why the fuck is Epi getting away with refusing to analyse nutella in any way?
Me no likey.
Asking for Wyvern does not make someone immediately scum, and I wouldn't use that particular case to call nutella scum, or even enhance my case against her (even though she is scum). I asked for it too at one point, because I realized how strong it is and I would rather know it was with me and town than whoever else I didn't know. But I know my abilities, a more laid back scumhunting role would be better applied by me, whereas vigging people would be someone else's #ballstothewall ability. I wouldn't have been upset if I had gotten the role, because at least I would be certain the scum team don't have a 75% chance of an extra kill every day.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:08 amI didn't notice you were asking for others tbh.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:14 pmyeah, I asked for wyvern or pegasus for mostly flavory reasons, though like it would have been cool to get the vig but I totally don't blame DDL for giving me the weaker of the ones I asked for, as I probably would have done for Wilgy had Tony not come along with a more straightforward requestKylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:10 pmdidn't you also ask for the wyvern though?
#motive for the never ending Day 1 exercise.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:18 am For the record, I think Colin is a civ, and I have Epi as a neutral read. But I want Epi alive for as long as his exercise thing is going.
Yeah this is the most likely which makes me hate this argument more.
I mean we can lynch him if we get to say, Day 4 and the thing is not over but I think baddie Epi is smart enough not to attempt stalling like this.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:20 am#motive for the never ending Day 1 exercise.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:18 am For the record, I think Colin is a civ, and I have Epi as a neutral read. But I want Epi alive for as long as his exercise thing is going.
what do you mean made you? Did his role stipulate that he could force you to change your votes to random? Was he civ? Was it another "exercise" of his? so many questions, such curiosity.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:23 am Where were you guys when Epi made us all change our votes to randoms including himself all for nothing? Good time.
so just to be clear, you don't civ read Epi, but you want us to keep him alive till Day 4 anyway for the intent of completing his exercise which you don't know anything about. Correct? I mean, I understand what you're saying, but at the same time, it scares me.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:24 amI mean we can lynch him if we get to say, Day 4 and the thing is not over but I think baddie Epi is smart enough not to attempt stalling like this.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:20 am#motive for the never ending Day 1 exercise.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:18 am For the record, I think Colin is a civ, and I have Epi as a neutral read. But I want Epi alive for as long as his exercise thing is going.
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I want to keep him alive until day 2 because I think this thing is short and rushing to lynch him now is stupid.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:27 amso just to be clear, you don't civ read Epi, but you want us to keep him alive till Day 4 anyway for the intent of completing his exercise which you don't know anything about. Correct? I mean, I understand what you're saying, but at the same time, it scares me.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:24 amI mean we can lynch him if we get to say, Day 4 and the thing is not over but I think baddie Epi is smart enough not to attempt stalling like this.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:20 am#motive for the never ending Day 1 exercise.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:18 am For the record, I think Colin is a civ, and I have Epi as a neutral read. But I want Epi alive for as long as his exercise thing is going.
No he just had lots of town cred and told us that it was important. Everyone just went along with it. Was a great laff.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:25 amwhat do you mean made you? Did his role stipulate that he could force you to change your votes to random? Was he civ? Was it another "exercise" of his? so many questions, such curiosity.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:23 am Where were you guys when Epi made us all change our votes to randoms including himself all for nothing? Good time.
My dad.
From the start it seems you were mainly fishing for others to step up and talk. This makes you harder to read.
He's not getting lynched today so rest easy.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:28 amI want to keep him alive until day 2 because I think this thing is short and rushing to lynch him now is stupid.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:27 amso just to be clear, you don't civ read Epi, but you want us to keep him alive till Day 4 anyway for the intent of completing his exercise which you don't know anything about. Correct? I mean, I understand what you're saying, but at the same time, it scares me.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:24 amI mean we can lynch him if we get to say, Day 4 and the thing is not over but I think baddie Epi is smart enough not to attempt stalling like this.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:20 am#motive for the never ending Day 1 exercise.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:18 am For the record, I think Colin is a civ, and I have Epi as a neutral read. But I want Epi alive for as long as his exercise thing is going.
The "day 4" thing was just an example.
Epi's gambit just feels like unnecessary risk to me. Why are you so adamant on continuing with it? Just because you are curious?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:17 am I'm on Page 34 and I hate the discussion about Epi's exercise. Hate it hate it hate it.
Can you guys be just a little patient and let him finish it so we can judge whether the results are good or not? If they are not you can vote for him all you want. But voting him now because you can't see the usefulness of something that has been advertized as having a hidden goal is moronic. Voting for him because he is risking being night killed is triple moronic. For all I know this exercise could end in day 1, when every active player answers it. Or he could be night killed, but then that means he was... a civ?
You don't lynch someone to prevent mafia from killing them, that's almost as bad as the idea that a civ has to resign themselves to get lynched.
If Epi is a wagon I will make whatever vote is necessary to prevent him from being lynched. Because right now my curiosity wants me to know how this exercise ends.
Welcome to Epi101.Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 amI don't really know what your end game is with all these actions. Feels like sowing fear, uncertainty and doubt.
Risk?Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:32 amEpi's gambit just feels like unnecessary risk to me. Why are you so adamant on continuing with it? Just because you are curious?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:17 am I'm on Page 34 and I hate the discussion about Epi's exercise. Hate it hate it hate it.
Can you guys be just a little patient and let him finish it so we can judge whether the results are good or not? If they are not you can vote for him all you want. But voting him now because you can't see the usefulness of something that has been advertized as having a hidden goal is moronic. Voting for him because he is risking being night killed is triple moronic. For all I know this exercise could end in day 1, when every active player answers it. Or he could be night killed, but then that means he was... a civ?
You don't lynch someone to prevent mafia from killing them, that's almost as bad as the idea that a civ has to resign themselves to get lynched.
If Epi is a wagon I will make whatever vote is necessary to prevent him from being lynched. Because right now my curiosity wants me to know how this exercise ends.
That may be, but the point still stands.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:33 amWelcome to Epi101.Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 amI don't really know what your end game is with all these actions. Feels like sowing fear, uncertainty and doubt.
Throwing away a really powerful ability on day 1 when we do not have any conclusive reads.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:35 amRisk?Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:32 amEpi's gambit just feels like unnecessary risk to me. Why are you so adamant on continuing with it? Just because you are curious?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:17 am I'm on Page 34 and I hate the discussion about Epi's exercise. Hate it hate it hate it.
Can you guys be just a little patient and let him finish it so we can judge whether the results are good or not? If they are not you can vote for him all you want. But voting him now because you can't see the usefulness of something that has been advertized as having a hidden goal is moronic. Voting for him because he is risking being night killed is triple moronic. For all I know this exercise could end in day 1, when every active player answers it. Or he could be night killed, but then that means he was... a civ?
You don't lynch someone to prevent mafia from killing them, that's almost as bad as the idea that a civ has to resign themselves to get lynched.
If Epi is a wagon I will make whatever vote is necessary to prevent him from being lynched. Because right now my curiosity wants me to know how this exercise ends.
What does it risk?
I like this a lot. Iron_Dwarf came in with basic scum reads which don't look much on first glance:Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 amFrom the start it seems you were mainly fishing for others to step up and talk. This makes you harder to read.
Then you went after Colin, but my read on him is that he's town. And now you've changed gear.
You also are doing this gambit with your misdirect power. If you indeed have it, why use it on day 1 when cases generally speaking are based on less solid foundations than later in the game? It feels like a waste.
You are also quite silent about nutella, who at the moment is the one most likely to be lynched.
I don't really know what your end game is with all these actions. Feels like sowing fear, uncertainty and doubt.
6 calls for shadiness. Not 1 civ cred. Not 5 scum names. 6. That is relevant to me.Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pm Random tidbits about people. If people want me to elaborate on some, please say so.
MacDougall - Feels shady, but he had the problem of being away on vacation so may not have the time to properly explain himself
Dragon D Luffy - Feels shady, like throwing bits around and see what sticks
rabbit 8 - He is quiet and didn't have a valid excuse to be so
epignosis - His behavior feels a bit off
Long Con - Feels like he's flipflopping a bit on his reads
rundontwalk - #ballstothewall
As much as day 1 is the traditional crapshoot, I will go with voting Dragon D Luffy for now.
VOTE DRAGON D LUFFY
contender for best quote 2018.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:33 amWelcome to Epi101.Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:30 amI don't really know what your end game is with all these actions. Feels like sowing fear, uncertainty and doubt.
I remember my first game in the Syndicate, back in early 2015, where one of my first posts was explaining how my MO was throwing bits around and seeing what sticks.Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pm Dragon D Luffy - Feels shady, like throwing bits around and see what sticks
Lunch? It's not 7am yet!gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:40 am Did Epi say he was going to reveal the purpose of his exercise before the lunch or did I imagine that.
Sorry to disappoint you and maybe I had to be clearer, but the rdw read was meant as a joke as he's the one who's using that hashtag all the time.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:37 am6 calls for shadiness. Not 1 civ cred. Not 5 scum names. 6. That is relevant to me.Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pm Random tidbits about people. If people want me to elaborate on some, please say so.
MacDougall - Feels shady, but he had the problem of being away on vacation so may not have the time to properly explain himself
Dragon D Luffy - Feels shady, like throwing bits around and see what sticks
rabbit 8 - He is quiet and didn't have a valid excuse to be so
epignosis - His behavior feels a bit off
Long Con - Feels like he's flipflopping a bit on his reads
rundontwalk - #ballstothewall
As much as day 1 is the traditional crapshoot, I will go with voting Dragon D Luffy for now.
VOTE DRAGON D LUFFY
Iron_Dwarf was prodded by Epi, Iron_Dwarf bites back without flinching. Cowards hide, civs don't got nuthin' to hide. I'm curious about your rundontwalk read and what it means and how you're applying #ballstothewall. I'm assuming it's in negative light, if the gist of your list is anything to go by so walk me through it.